She EXPOSES The Truth Behind Obesity.
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Summary
In this episode, Pam and Pam are joined by their good friend and co-host, MPA, to talk all things body positivity, nutrition, and fat shaming. Pam talks about her journey to losing weight, how she lost weight, and how she managed to get pregnant with her third child.
Transcript
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You know, it's all the fluid fluid. Yeah, you know, it's crazy
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I was dating this beautiful Chinese girl at the time and she took lotion and like rubbed it all over me took care
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Yeah, so yeah, yeah, and she massaged it and she took care of me. I saw a deeper side of female love during that time
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To the girl on the couch there's a difference between LDL cholesterol and HDL LDL builds up when eating processed seeds and
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Hydrogenated oil like canola HDL is good. Also, we do need cholesterol to feed our brains and make sex hormones
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Red meat only I'm correlates negatively when it's a part of London modern diet meat only green veg or a mix of those
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Show lower risks of heart to be heart disease and diabetes
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NSX obese man self-sterilized due to the heat downstairs the twig and berries need room to stay cool for healthy
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My co body positivity, but most overweight people I've known were the meanest people I've known Doug MPA
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Is it socially acceptable for a fat person to make fun of a skinny person if a skinny woman makes fun of a fat woman?
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The savvy ninja are raging on someone who chooses to get like goes up
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Lipo is mini person energy do it. You must you know what must to evoke the change you desire
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NSX don't mistake good manners with body positivity mainstream and health care needs to be honest about health concerns
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One-to-one dynamics with people can still be polite while doing this honestly
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Uh weaponry fitness. I was 50 pounds overweight last year following a traumatic situation aside from that
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My brother's fat shamed me every day and I lost the weight in four months
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Yeah, the average woman with a master's degree has over a hundred and three has a hundred and three thousand dollars in debt
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There are too many economically unattractive women in the u.s. Moral for all all of those juices are full of sugar
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Okay, go ahead. When people juice what do you think they juice? Of course they'll get a fruit and juice it. That's what I meant
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It's literally a fruit. They thought you were talking about the you know the juices that you buy in
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It's so funny right when you buy those fruit juices they're like 70% fruit juice like
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I have a question next question. Do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing for me?
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Do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing for no
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Do you think that fat shaming can be a good thing for me personally?
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It motivated me to lose weight. I think it was a great thing for me, and I'm very thankful for it
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So I can remember some years ago where my mother tapped me on my shoulder
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And and she said Pam you're just a little bit too big
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I felt really sad, but it was truth and I needed to hear that
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Yeah, and it was shortly after I'd had I think my third baby
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And looking back now at the time I was quite offended by that and I was upset
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What are those habits if you don't mind me asking?
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Just the eating of lots of chocolate I had a sweet tooth that was my issue and also it was
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There was chocolates and there was gato cakes and there was I used to have when I was a kid
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I used to have club biscuits underneath my pillow
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Whenever I was in a particular type of mood because it has it's catch 22 because you need the sugar
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Because it's now controlling your mood it's dictating your mood
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And therefore I had there was that we didn't have a variation of foods around food was just like it was like money
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You're just like yeah, I got food whatever it was
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And so for me it was for me to be able to have the sweets
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Whatever it was I was getting a sugar is what I thought I needed so that became a habit
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So when my mom who was the first person to come and say to me
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Pam you're a little bit too big you know because even the father of my children he used to bring me chocolates
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Oh bring bring me the chocolates now eat them and then everybody's happy in the house
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But again that became a habit so even now even though I've had a tummy tuck and I've had lipo
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If I'm feeling a particular way there are times when I will you know wouldn't so much get there for a rocher
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Or you know a dark chocolate perhaps but I need to have that sugar fix
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We can we can we can still have those those types of behaviors that they can still linger about
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Even when you you know you might look good, but again, are you healthy?
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It sure sugar is sugar is way more addicting sugar is more addicting than cocaine
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I know you've never I know you've never done cocaine pearl
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But I've been at Columbia a couple times let me tell you something like it's crazy how addictive sugar is
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And and it's honestly in in the United States sugars in everything it's in you know it's in bread in the States
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It's high fructose syrup is in the bread there's sugar in every single thing in the States and that's the side that that's the main reason why so many people
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Are fat in states because everything has sugar in the salad dressing has sugar in it people like I'm gonna be healthy
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I'm gonna eat a salad and they have fucking salad dressing that has sugar and all these seed oils in it
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So we're living in this like kind of contaminant world
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But there's a lot of people making these breakthroughs and coming through and understanding like the fundamentals of nutritional science
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And putting it into food. Thank God, you know, but like the average person is just so poorly uneducated
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The food pyramid said you needed to eat six to eleven servings of bread or rice a day
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Can you imagine? Eleven cups of rice a day? Eleven cups of rice a day
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But you know what? It's your it's your it's your responsibility to educate yourself on nutrition
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Years ago I did but when I got really fat when I told you and I went vegan
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I started looking at what is in the food and the ingredients
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But now that we have social media, it's become a lot easier
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But if you think about years ago, we didn't have this
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You know now ketchup is considered a fruit in the food pyramid of the United States
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If it was from a sugar cane, if it was from a fruit
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But the habits continued, you know what I mean?
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And I know how to make really good cookies from scratch
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And it's with all natural stuff because you're making it from scratch
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I used to eat like half of the cookie dough when I was a kid
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The American diet, like the mainstream American diet is just so unfortunately unhealthy
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Like you know, do you know which country has the lowest obesity rate in the world?
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Yeah, and if you ever go to Vietnam, if you eat there, it's like
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First of all, if you ever go to Vietnam, it's just like a giant
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You know, Vietnam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world too
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Yeah, so like, you know, the food when you eat there too
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And I've noticed this because, you know, I travel a lot
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But honestly, every time I go back to America and I start eating American food
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Because obviously I've grown up on processed food
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I've grown up with meat, you know, and, you know, fish and all that kind of thing
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So when I go back to eating those kind of foods
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I just went to the United States and every time I go back to America, I just have to eat Chick-fil-A
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I eat like the Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich or I eat the breakfast biscuit or whatever
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And then my stomach, I look like I'm three months pregnant
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If I know I want to eat something, my waist trainer is in my bag
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Let's explore what waist trainers do for people and to people
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Because waist trainers, you know, they used to be used for posture correction
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You have like, you know, post-surgery garments like Farha's
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But if you are just putting on a waist trainer and let's say you're wearing it for extended periods of time
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Because you're super committed to having a snatched waist
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I just can't see waist trainers being as big of a problem as obesity
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No, and I'm saying I think that's why we focus on obesity a lot more
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I'm so tired of the UK clowning on America for being overweight
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Because I looked up the stats and it's not that different
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I think they're in the hillbilly sides of England
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I think it's because everybody's walking all the time here
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And she was really, really, really, really upset that I said this
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Because a fat person would love to get angry if you don't
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Celebrities like Lizzo will lead with their weight
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And then she gets mad when people comment on her weight
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And then they said that she might have not been well
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Lizzo is way more sexualized than you are right now
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Like disproportionately desire a man that is super tall
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That's the same way guys want women with big breasts
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Like because they did a lot of data based upon men's preferences
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And then like the guys who are ordering sex dolls
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The average breast size they wanted was American D cup or larger
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People would call you misogynistic for that preference
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Probably now but not because of the way that I look
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But because I'm very much a healed person of the person I used to be
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So there's two sides to the men who like older women
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Because I personally believe that younger men just look better than the guys my age
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Like that happens a lot older women with younger men
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But it's because men don't have as much leverage on the sexual marketplace
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If you look at dating apps where they have the most options
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Where women have the most options roughly around like 22
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Like men are just being slammed with sexual images nonstop
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And so this has caused male thirst to be at an all time high
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Because that seems to be the new marriage nowadays
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Because that's like what the majority of people do
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Is something that I have been trying to answer the question to
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I can't tell these women where to find good men
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The guys that you ignore are probably gonna be some of the better relationships
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When mainstream media and mainstream culture is just telling girls by default to be sluts
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Is like good women are usually trying so hard to find good men
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And good men are trying so hard to find good women
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And we thought I thought we were on the same page
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And that's where you have to draw every piece of strength
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I mean when it when things kind of sort of came about
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We didn't get to speak about what the problem was
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Oh so he left and then you just never heard from him?
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I actually don't really think men should care about our emotional needs
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I think like you know when you get to a point in a relationship
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Where the both of you are going to have to endure through a
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But like when you have to like endure through hardship
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Because I've been that person who didn't want to give up
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Or you two have to sit down and have a difficult discussion
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I think what she means by emotional labor is like
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There's going to be emotional turmoil and conflict
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Can I have an example just so I could understand better
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And we should just keep on trying to push through
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Keep on trying to communicate and get through it
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That's what a relationship that works looks like
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Have you ever had to make a decision in that relationship
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Either you say that you believe in traditional relationships
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Relationships tend to work better in countries that have more traditional relationships
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Have you ever had a confrontation or a disagreement with your partner
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It was kind of getting to the point where we've been dating a bit
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Because our backgrounds were just a bit too different
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And do you think that sort of unwillingness to compromise
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Would you say that that's a lack of emotional labour
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I think it's just picking what you want to marry
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Do I think there's situations where issues come up
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Which if you don't have trust in a relationship
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Are they still jumping from person to person to person