JustPearlyThings - October 11, 2023


She Gets CASTIGATED For Supporting Women's Indecent Dressing


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On this episode of Thick & Thin, we talk about the recent Pizzagate controversy and how to deal with it. We also talk about women in general and how they should be treated in the 21st century.

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00:00:00.000 Like, do you know what I'm saying? Like, they'll add in, they'll they'll keep raising these numbers to qualify them under poverty so they can get more benefits for from whatever agenda they're trying to push or pass a policy that takes away freedom.
00:00:12.640 That's what they do. And you start to see just how manipulative and it's the same thing with like, OK, the women are more likely to kill children. 1.00
00:00:22.200 And then what does she say? Oh, well, it's because they're with them. Like, it's like this nonsense. And so, again, we go back to, you know, personally, I think the best way you can come to conclusions is what we see in reality. 0.66
00:00:35.260 Daniel Okor, I'm happy that Pizza Girl is getting pushback. Carrie, I don't like Pixie, but she's right. Most of Africa and other continents she mentioned mentions do have poverty. 0.51
00:00:46.580 Poverty. Poverty does cause mental illness. Doug MPA, American women have aborted more babies than most African countries. There are two cities in the U.S. that don't have clean water. Jackson, Mississippi and Flint, Michigan. Pixie's a dangerous. She's a demon. 1.00
00:01:03.380 Sigma MP10, as a man, we need to get out of our feelings when we have these conversations. As of 2020, the life expectancy of Nigerians was 52.89 compared to 77 years in the U.S.
00:01:15.600 It's not an insult to say Westerners live longer. Zero fallout. Love how the white liberal women talking for minorities, but Pixie has never been to Colombia. 1.00
00:01:24.580 She is a true acting like a racist. People don't know how to survive. Dragon Stallion. Pixie, do you know anything? The Maasai tribe in Africa is a very happy bunch of hunter and gatherer people.
00:01:37.060 They don't base things on what you think they should live like. Beat in cheeks. If you guys paid for Pixie's plane ticket for this appearance, get your refund back.
00:01:47.140 Colombia is better maintained than her entire brain can master. I go there once a month. They are happy.
00:01:53.580 Just sad. A15. Pixie names to change her name to Cuttery because she is our country. Wow. Guys, you guys are a bit rude.
00:02:03.460 You know, demon, that's a little fun. We don't have to call the women demons. Like, you could just say she has a different point of view. 1.00
00:02:10.400 I'll read it, though. Sorry. Because she's a contrary person on YouTube. Beat in cheeks. 1.00
00:02:16.420 Pixie doesn't know anything, and I lived over South America, Europe, Asia, and she needs to put her ignorance out of the butt. 0.99
00:02:21.860 Thing, Matra. The lady knows nothing. I'm from a third world, and mental health issues and kids are a minute. 1.00
00:02:27.600 ADHD, nada. People can be poor and really happy. Pixie, what does it feel to have the same mentality as Margaret Sanger?
00:02:36.480 Okay, a lot of these were at you, so go ahead if you have any thoughts.
00:02:39.900 I never said the Messiah tribe. I specifically referred to at you.
00:02:43.540 Obviously, every single country has, like, a lot of different people. You're going to have areas that are nicer.
00:02:48.700 You're going to have areas that are poorer. I don't think that should be controversial.
00:02:51.720 I think that's just a fact. Also, I'm not a demon, believe it or not.
00:03:00.740 Can you prove it?
00:03:02.580 And sadly, I can't, you know? Throw some holy water at me or something.
00:03:06.500 You know what they said to me in the chat, telling us how to speak? Now she's getting entitled.
00:03:13.060 I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I'm curious. Why do you think women are oppressed? 1.00
00:03:16.880 I think it depends on, like, what metric. I think, for example, like, women are more likely to face, like, sexual harassment in the workplace. 0.83
00:03:26.540 They're less likely to, like, um...
00:03:28.480 So I have a question. I'm going to... We're going to go to the next one, but just a quick question.
00:03:32.100 Do you think men typically will report sexual harassment?
00:03:36.200 No, but I also think that...
00:03:37.860 So how do you... Like, why do you think that?
00:03:40.300 Um, at least when it comes to, like, surveys that make it more possible to people report truly, like, anonymous surveys,
00:03:46.740 it still comes out that women are... still report higher rates of sexual harassment. 0.98
00:03:50.620 Do you think women are honest about sexual harassment? 1.00
00:03:53.840 We don't... We don't see a Me Too, like, problem?
00:03:58.620 Um, I think most women are accurate or at least honest, especially when it comes to, like, anonymous survey data, 0.99
00:04:04.840 where there's, like, no incentive to really lie.
00:04:06.620 Um, I think, um, a lot of it... What is it?
00:04:11.440 You can make, like, biological arguments for, like, why that's the case.
00:04:14.840 I just... I don't think it's, like, okay.
00:04:16.540 I think getting someone that you dislike in trouble is enough reason to...
00:04:19.940 Is a big reason, yeah.
00:04:21.600 ...to even report it anonymously.
00:04:24.000 No, no. I mean, like, surveys where it's, like, oh, you know, they send it to, like, a thousand random people,
00:04:28.820 and they're, like, have you ever been sexually harassed?
00:04:30.980 What do you define harassment? Blah, blah, blah.
00:04:32.940 And they still answer...
00:04:33.580 So what is sexually harassed?
00:04:35.780 Um, so your boss is making, like, inappropriate comments about how you look,
00:04:40.160 about wanting to do, like, sexual actions with you, touching you inappropriately.
00:04:43.340 Can you define an inappropriate comment? 0.98
00:04:46.080 Um, like, dang, girl, you got a good booty. I want to touch that. 1.00
00:04:51.660 Okay, what if the women are dressing half-naked to work? 1.00
00:04:55.040 Um, I think Jesus said that, like, pluck thy own eyes out or whatever when it comes to wondering.
00:04:59.920 No, but I'm saying, like, do you think there's a problem with women dressing inappropriately to work? 0.99
00:05:05.820 Um, not that I've seen, personally.
00:05:07.620 You've never seen that?
00:05:09.100 Um, I'm sure there's, like, a couple examples of women who don't know how to dress properly, 1.00
00:05:13.780 but I think most of the time, like, they get in trouble for, like, workplace, like, violations, too.
00:05:17.940 Like, that can be considered a form of sexual harassment, you know,
00:05:20.820 if you're, like, showing your dress to, like, a man, just like how if, like, a man was showing...
00:05:24.400 And what happens when they try to enforce dress codes?
00:05:28.380 Do women typically say, oh, that's so reasonable? 1.00
00:05:32.140 Um, I think it depends on the company.
00:05:34.900 I think most of the time, if it goes, like, out of bounds, like, there could be, like, legal issues.
00:05:39.060 No, but I'm just asking in general.
00:05:40.660 Like, like, in general, when we hear dress codes, do women typically comply or complain?
00:05:47.340 Um, I think they...
00:05:49.800 I mean, have you ever heard a story of women whining about the dress codes and calling them sexist? 1.00
00:05:56.360 Yeah, I have.
00:05:57.080 Okay, so why would they have dress codes?
00:05:59.660 Well, I think sometimes, um, sometimes it is sexist, right?
00:06:03.460 Like, the idea that if I show my ankles, I'm somehow, like, trying to seduce a man.
00:06:08.060 Like, that's sexist.
00:06:09.080 Oh, so it's ankles.
00:06:10.660 Not ankles.
00:06:11.580 No, no, but, like, historically, it's, like, an example.
00:06:13.840 But my point is it's very...
00:06:15.180 I'll tell you, it's very confusing to guys.
00:06:17.740 Because what women will do is they'll dress really provocatively. 1.00
00:06:21.480 And then the guys will say something.
00:06:23.620 Because, I mean, by every metric, you're signaling that you want to be approached if you're dressing super provocatively.
00:06:30.600 A lot of times, I would argue women flirt for attention. 0.99
00:06:34.020 And they flirt a lot in the workplace.
00:06:36.220 Men don't mind. 1.00
00:06:36.780 They don't care.
00:06:37.360 But a lot, I think, a lot of times when men respond, then women cry harassment.
00:06:43.400 I actually think that men are discriminated more in the workplace because I think a lot of times if they...
00:06:50.820 They're afraid to look at a woman wrong.
00:06:52.660 They're afraid to say the wrong joke.
00:06:54.240 Because, again, it's a joke that you deem appropriate.
00:06:57.040 And if the wrong joke is said or they say the wrong thing or look at you the wrong way, the women can go to HR or cry harassment. 1.00
00:07:05.260 100% and we see this happening all the time.
00:07:08.300 And we know that HR is for the company and it's for women. 0.71
00:07:11.200 It's not for men. 0.79
00:07:12.360 I know somebody personally who was sexually harassed.
00:07:16.040 A man sexually harassed at work over time constantly.
00:07:19.880 And then the woman had the audacity to then go to HR crying, like Pearl just said, lying about what happened, saying that she was uncomfortable from a comment that he made.
00:07:30.740 And when he made the comment to literally just protect himself and to stop what she was doing to him.
00:07:35.660 And then he lost his job.
00:07:38.120 He lost his job.
00:07:38.940 I know another girl we were speaking with the other day.
00:07:41.920 She said that two people in the workplace had a consensual relationship.
00:07:45.500 The woman wanted more. 1.00
00:07:46.840 The man didn't want anything with her.
00:07:48.880 She then was upset and then got him fired because she said that she was uncomfortable and potentially sexually harassed him. 1.00
00:07:56.280 This man lost his job.
00:07:57.320 So I think, and also there was something I saw that women always have a man in the workplace that they're excited to see.
00:08:03.860 They always have that one man.
00:08:05.500 Work hubby.
00:08:05.960 Work hubby, exactly.
00:08:07.360 Why are women wearing pencil skirts, high heels, showing cleavage, having buttoned down tops, all of these things. 1.00
00:08:13.840 Like even in my workplace, you know, obviously working in a law firm, sometimes it's casual, sometimes it's not.
00:08:18.740 But some of the women, they dress so sexy and it's like, I'm uncomfortable. 1.00
00:08:23.300 I'm like, wow, she looks good.
00:08:25.040 That's a nice shape, whatever.
00:08:26.200 Like, how are men thinking? 0.95
00:08:28.980 I think that women dress provocatively and then they cry when they get the attention that they really want. 1.00
00:08:34.480 Well, I think the common theme here, though, is the believable women thing, isn't it?
00:08:37.920 100% and I think it's completely wrong.
00:08:40.320 My advice to men is, right, because the workplace traditionally, like statistically speaking, that used to be where you would meet your partner, right?
00:08:46.040 It was either like in school or like high school and then or work.
00:08:49.680 A lot of people would, you know, the office work party at Christmas time, you know.
00:08:52.820 Okay, but now it's very dangerous.
00:08:55.780 So I say to men, do not speak to any girls at work. 1.00
00:08:58.340 I don't care.
00:08:58.740 I don't care what industry you're in.
00:09:00.680 Do not, do not, men, do not speak to these girls at work because if she likes you, oh, it's okay.
00:09:07.600 At that moment, it's okay.
00:09:09.000 But if she doesn't like your advances, it's a trip to Karen in HR. 1.00
00:09:12.660 And once again, like, you know, there's always a Karen in HR. 0.97
00:09:18.340 But like, you know, we talk about stats, but I'll give an adult or one of my friends, you know, I'm not going to mention his name.
00:09:24.080 But the reason why is because most men have friends that have been through this or been through something similar.
00:09:28.620 Same thing.
00:09:29.320 He was a girl at work.
00:09:30.680 And these two weren't even, they weren't even sexual.
00:09:33.440 Nothing happens.
00:09:33.980 They're just flirtatious things, you know, a few messages.
00:09:36.000 You know, she'll drop messages on his, on his, on his car, little things like that.
00:09:39.980 Okay.
00:09:40.280 They both went for position.
00:09:42.340 They both went for managerial position.
00:09:44.160 He got the position.
00:09:45.040 She didn't.
00:09:45.720 The moment he got the position, problems start to arise now.
00:09:49.220 And then she started saying to him, basically he had to, he became a manager.
00:09:52.540 So he had to obviously now instruct her and start telling her certain things.
00:09:55.640 So then she started saying, you know, to the other, she doesn't like, she doesn't like working with him.
00:10:00.580 Obviously he doesn't like the way he's become a manager.
00:10:02.480 And they say, what's the problem?
00:10:03.360 What's happened?
00:10:03.660 Well, and then the other thing is like, why, why is he flirting with you?
00:10:07.940 Like, cause like the women will complain about these comments, but it's like, men are pretty timid nowadays.
00:10:13.780 You know, they, they don't typically want to risk.
00:10:15.680 She was leaving messages on his car.
00:10:17.360 I know.
00:10:17.680 That's what I'm saying.
00:10:18.560 Like, typically it's like, were you dressed a certain way?
00:10:22.020 Like, usually there is some signal that women give to men to, when they give you, like, I think they said 90% of the time women make the first move.
00:10:31.300 So, like either, if they include, yeah, if they include like, I can't remember how they counted it, but there was some like pre-signal that women get to get men to approach them. 0.99
00:10:41.820 I mean, usually you guys know, like women will give you a look or like something. 0.79
00:10:44.560 You know me, I don't.
00:10:46.100 Yeah, that's true.
00:10:47.100 Sorry to just add to that, to what you're saying.
00:10:48.480 That's very true because in recent years of dating, I get told, oh yeah, you don't make the first move.
00:10:54.500 But because of the way society is made, I'm like, I'm not going to make a move.
00:10:57.100 So, I feel like you're saying it's okay.
00:10:59.940 You have to almost tell me, like, you know what I'm saying?
00:11:02.420 You have to say to you.
00:11:03.180 And it's like, would you?
00:11:03.780 I said, no, because for men, that's how I protect myself.
00:11:05.980 And so, it's like, if a guy is going to risk his job, like, typically she has done something to signal she likes him.
00:11:12.760 And like, but we just automatically, and you kind of had it too.
00:11:15.200 You said, well, I think most of them are telling the truth.
00:11:17.960 I think they're, I think we should believe that.
00:11:20.660 Let me just tell you what happened with him.
00:11:21.760 So, essentially, so now that's happened now.
00:11:24.200 And she's told him that obviously it's because of, you know, misconduct in the office.
00:11:28.280 So, misconduct at work.
00:11:29.100 So, now he has to go in, has to write a statement, go through all these types of things he has to go through.
00:11:33.680 He has to go on a course of conduct at work.
00:11:38.080 And essentially, she got moved to a different place.
00:11:40.420 He got moved to a different place.
00:11:41.500 Nothing happened.
00:11:41.980 He still kept his job.
00:11:43.240 But what happened was is he didn't go past further than what he was going to go to.
00:11:47.360 That was three years ago.
00:11:48.540 He's still suffering from it now, like PTSD from it. 0.94
00:11:51.920 And he's a black guy. 0.74
00:11:52.840 She was a mixed race girl.
00:11:54.340 And the reason why I say it is because he felt like, why is my sister doing this to me?
00:11:58.180 Like, he was telling, he was literally saying it to me.
00:11:59.780 He's like, bro, I don't understand it.
00:12:01.020 Like, I'm trying to come up and we've come up from nothing.
00:12:03.060 And why is my sister doing this to me? 1.00
00:12:05.220 To the point of where now he hasn't gone any further.
00:12:07.420 He doesn't want to.
00:12:08.460 Because he's like, oh, I've seen what happens when you try to rise up.
00:12:11.080 This is what happens.
00:12:12.180 So, I think we just really need to listen to the stories of men that are out there that are really, that are going for it.
00:12:17.600 And I do not recommend any man should be approaching women. 1.00
00:12:20.200 I believe women, I'm not someone that approaches women. 1.00
00:12:22.260 I've said it before.
00:12:22.880 Women approach me. 1.00
00:12:23.640 I mean, I'm just, what can I say?
00:12:25.040 It's approach me.
00:12:25.740 But no, they do.
00:12:26.600 But no, but a woman can let you know if she wants you to approach. 1.00
00:12:29.440 Women have always traditionally let men know.
00:12:31.140 They can look at you, I mean, handkerchief, like literally they can smile at you.
00:12:35.500 They can do whatever.
00:12:36.660 And then you do the rest.
00:12:38.600 All you have to do.
00:12:39.240 But that one where a girl's walking past you, try to grab her arm and she has not even looked at you.
00:12:43.240 Men's, please stop doing that. 0.99
00:12:44.480 Yeah, don't do, don't even touch no woman until she says I like you. 0.94
00:12:48.300 I want to be touched.
00:12:49.540 Yeah, don't touch no woman. 1.00
00:12:50.360 Don't even bother putting your hand on no woman.
00:12:51.820 So I'm curious, when you hear this stuff, what's your thought?
00:12:56.140 I think that there's two sides to every story.
00:12:59.020 I think it definitely does happen that some women, you know, cry wolf. 1.00
00:13:02.700 I don't want to be like, that never happens.
00:13:04.940 I think the idea of, like, I'm sorry, but I don't think a pencil skirt and button blouse is like sexy for me.
00:13:10.560 Are you serious?
00:13:11.220 Have you seen like the fantasy that men have about like a woman at work?
00:13:15.000 Like, are you serious?
00:13:17.280 That is a pencil skirt that is tight to your figure that shows your curves. 1.00
00:13:21.860 You don't think that's sexy.
00:13:23.060 Yeah, but she's not a man. 1.00
00:13:24.560 So obviously she can't say what she wants to say.
00:13:26.920 No, but also.
00:13:27.740 It doesn't make any sense if we're trying to like shame her for saying she doesn't.
00:13:30.500 Of course she doesn't think it's sexy because she's not a man.
00:13:32.600 No?
00:13:33.060 Yeah.
00:13:33.480 You know, this isn't it.
00:13:34.460 What do you think, guys?
00:13:35.640 I feel like the problem is like, like men can sometimes make almost anything sexual.
00:13:42.600 I think like, again, to me, that's, it's true though. 0.93
00:13:45.800 Look at the people, like, look at historically, right?
00:13:48.000 When it's like, oh, like, no, like they can't show their ankles.
00:13:50.620 Like, that's too sexy.
00:13:51.660 Oh, wearing shorts.
00:13:52.460 Like, that's too sexy.
00:13:53.620 Like, even like in Arabian countries. 0.92
00:13:55.940 I mean, it is sexy.
00:13:57.020 You're showing your whole leg. 0.81
00:13:58.540 You're showing the shape of your bum.
00:13:59.760 You're showing that your hips. 0.99
00:14:00.740 It's sexy.
00:14:01.420 Okay.
00:14:01.720 Showing that you're like a human being with like anatomy.
00:14:04.900 I don't think that's inherently sexy. 0.62
00:14:06.860 Like, I think it's sexy if I start showing my breasts.
00:14:09.760 Sure, if I start like, you know, making it close where you can like see my private areas.
00:14:14.320 Like, yeah, that's sexy.
00:14:15.440 But I don't think it's enough to just say like, oh, yeah, like I have a body.
00:14:19.500 Like, that's, I don't think that's inherently sexy.
00:14:20.580 You don't think there's such thing as provocative clothing?
00:14:22.800 I do.
00:14:23.620 If I had.
00:14:24.320 If you're not showing.
00:14:25.420 So who, wait, I have a question.
00:14:26.780 Who decides what is provocative?
00:14:28.860 Well, that's a million dollar question.
00:14:30.740 I don't think it's fair to say like, oh.
00:14:32.320 I could give you an easy.
00:14:33.560 Yeah.
00:14:34.440 Well, what is it?
00:14:35.440 Then that's the argument that people give.
00:14:37.240 So why all women should wear burglars? 1.00
00:14:38.920 I have a question.
00:14:40.280 Why do you think women dressed so modestly before? 0.98
00:14:44.580 I think that was the societal standard at the time.
00:14:47.360 And yeah, men were like, oh, no, if you show ankles, that's too sexy. 0.95
00:14:50.460 Okay.
00:14:50.800 Okay.
00:14:51.120 So you think it was because the men just couldn't like handle it?
00:14:54.960 I think.
00:14:55.500 What's your thought as to why?
00:14:57.840 What is it?
00:14:58.620 I think that, yeah, they were just like social norms in place that like as we started growing
00:15:03.260 as a society, we were like, wait, men aren't dogs.
00:15:06.380 Like men can look at an angle and not like, you know, salivate.
00:15:08.700 Why did we have those social norms?
00:15:12.680 We had those social norms in place because I do think that they were used as a tool to
00:15:17.760 try to like control women and like repress them. 0.99
00:15:19.980 Okay.
00:15:20.520 Okay.
00:15:21.100 So because people were married and they wanted to protect their wives.
00:15:29.520 People were 85% of people got married.
00:15:33.040 People were married back then.
00:15:34.600 They had a family and women did not want to signal to other men that they were available. 1.00
00:15:40.360 Do you think that dressing is always signaling to other men?
00:15:43.360 Yes.
00:15:44.060 I'll give you an example.
00:15:45.540 Okay.
00:15:46.540 If I dress like a police officer, am I going to be shocked that anyone comes up to me to
00:15:55.940 solve a crime or to arrest a criminal?
00:15:59.140 You send messages like this awesome one right here based on what you wear.
00:16:05.300 You are sending a message to the world about how they should perceive you.
00:16:09.700 Yeah.
00:16:10.000 I think you want to be addressed.
00:16:11.800 It's the same for a reason.
00:16:12.820 I think what is it, I think clothing is a part of identity and I think people express
00:16:17.400 themselves through their clothing.
00:16:19.040 I don't think that automatically means that old clothing is meant for seduction.
00:16:22.800 So how come a man in a skirt can walk into a woman's bathroom then? 1.00
00:16:26.660 What does that have to do?
00:16:28.140 Because you're saying like, okay, like you're acknowledging that clothing is part of an
00:16:33.200 identity, but you're saying that's not the whole thing.
00:16:35.400 Well, if it's not the whole thing, then how come we live in a world where a man can walk
00:16:38.660 into a woman's bathroom just from wearing a skirt because clearly identity is the whole 1.00
00:16:43.220 thing.
00:16:43.740 And if you can acknowledge that, then you can acknowledge that a woman sending certain
00:16:47.560 messages through how she is dressed is going to lead to certain consequences. 0.94
00:16:50.980 No, but Christine, you can't control how, you can't control how people, what people think
00:16:55.460 of you, but you can control the message that you send to people.
00:16:58.300 Yeah.
00:16:58.580 Do you understand?
00:16:58.820 So you can never, we can never, ever control what someone's going to think, but I can control
00:17:02.600 the message that I send that to the world.
00:17:04.500 And this is the thing what people don't like, like there's, you know what I mean?
00:17:07.380 Like you, the choices and trade-offs, you can dress however you want to, but you don't
00:17:11.720 get to dress however you want to and expect no outcomes from it.
00:17:14.680 And expect no consequences.
00:17:15.140 And when we ever speak about it, they're going to start saying, oh, you're victim shaming,
00:17:18.520 you're policing women, you're saying to women how to dress. 0.94
00:17:20.640 But as a man with three sisters, I've always said, I just tell you how my father raised me
00:17:25.320 to look after my sisters and whenever we speak about women, be careful about what they wear 1.00
00:17:29.460 or who they're around, their surroundings, there's always, oh, but it's because modern
00:17:33.380 women want to feel as if they can go out in this world without any consequence, but us 0.96
00:17:37.500 as men, as leaders, we understand, we've built the world.
00:17:39.740 We know it has consequences.
00:17:41.380 The whole reason you can go out in these dresses is because of the patriarchy. 0.63
00:17:44.460 The same patriarchy you keep complaining about is the one that has made it allow for
00:17:48.260 you to be safe.
00:17:49.060 If you now call the police, who's coming?
00:17:50.680 Is it women or is it men?
00:17:52.160 It's going to be men. 0.94
00:17:52.880 And if women, if a group of women come, you're not going to really feel too safe. 1.00
00:17:56.240 So this thing where women don't really understand, men have built and civilized 0.98
00:18:00.260 the world so you can now go out in a short skirt and do whatever you want.
00:18:03.740 So you can literally, you're protected, but you're only protected because men have. 0.99
00:18:07.560 Prior to that, you needed a man by your side.
00:18:10.140 And if you was walking around showing ankles, then you might have found yourself
00:18:14.560 in some trouble.
00:18:15.520 But you see, it goes back to women wanting to do whatever they want without consequence,
00:18:19.260 like you said.
00:18:19.720 So for instance, she's saying all these things about, oh, just because I'm dressed a certain
00:18:23.580 way, blah, blah, blah, which is the normal rhetoric around women. 1.00
00:18:27.100 But the reality of the world is the way the world operates, you are literally addressed
00:18:31.560 how you're dressed.
00:18:32.420 Even in the world of men, if I'm walking down the road wearing a balaclava or wearing a
00:18:39.080 durag, obviously I'm going to be stereotyped.
00:18:41.520 I'm going to be looked at a certain way.
00:18:43.060 If I'm wearing a suit, even the women are going to look at me a certain way. 1.00
00:18:48.340 If I walk up to a woman wearing a suit now and I speak to her, maybe I'm rolling a Ben's 1.00
00:18:53.860 key in my hand, I'm passing a message, she would look at me a certain way. 0.91
00:18:57.640 If I go around the corner and the next five seconds rub mud on my face, wear some tartar
00:19:03.740 clothes and come back to the same woman, she's going to think I'm a completely different
00:19:06.260 person.
00:19:06.740 And we can't ignore these facts either.
00:19:08.180 I was on a talk show recently with a lady who was literally a self-proclaimed bimbo. 1.00
00:19:15.340 And she had, you know, all the facial work, all of that, the fake boobs, and it was all 1.00
00:19:21.360 out. 0.74
00:19:22.200 Like, even I was like, jeez.
00:19:25.060 Anyway, she, yeah, it was all out. 0.94
00:19:27.640 And she was wearing these stilettos and the stilettos literally said sex on it. 1.00
00:19:31.320 I'm not exaggerating. 0.94
00:19:32.960 It literally said sex on it.
00:19:33.540 She sounds like a great gal. 0.81
00:19:34.840 But you shouldn't make any conclusions based on those.
00:19:39.540 She told me a story about how she was walking somewhere and a guy just sort of came out
00:19:45.480 and he was, how do I put this politely, getting himself off to her, like in front of her.
00:19:55.300 And what came to mind for me, and I really regret not saying this at the time, actually,
00:20:00.040 because it only came to mind afterwards, that's never happened to me.
00:20:04.840 And I don't think that that's a coincidence that to someone like her who presents herself
00:20:09.220 in such a way that she has had that kind of experience.
00:20:11.480 Now, I'm not taking away from the fact that that is wrong.
00:20:14.300 That is weird.
00:20:15.060 He shouldn't have done that.
00:20:16.400 However, people like that do exist in this world.
00:20:19.060 And I think it's down to each of us and our own, you know, sovereignty and responsibility
00:20:25.640 over how we present ourselves to take efforts to not put ourselves in dangerous situations.
00:20:30.920 And I think things like provocative clothing, you know, you shouldn't then complain when you're
00:20:36.720 getting those kind of results because you have, in a way, you know, bought it on yourself.
00:20:40.920 And I know that sounds so horrid.
00:20:43.200 It's true, though. 0.82
00:20:43.720 But I can't say stuff like that.
00:20:45.460 It's true.
00:20:46.140 What is it?
00:20:46.500 The other day, just quickly, I was speaking to a woman on the street.
00:20:50.580 We're doing street interviews, me and my husband.
00:20:52.300 And this girl, she said, you know, something terrible happened to me today.
00:20:55.260 I wasn't going to say anything, but, you know, I'll tell you guys.
00:20:57.600 And we're like, what happened?
00:20:58.320 She said, I got catcalled.
00:21:01.440 And I'm not joking.
00:21:02.840 She had a see-through top on.
00:21:04.420 You could see her bra.
00:21:05.340 Her belly was showing.
00:21:06.740 It was very sexy.
00:21:08.560 And I was just like, duh.
00:21:10.940 Yeah, like, I'm so confused.
00:21:12.900 You're shocked.
00:21:14.180 And the thing is, with this catcall thing, like, if the guy's attractive and you like him,
00:21:18.660 you're going to be fine with it.
00:21:19.720 And if you find him ugly and unattractive, you're going to be offended. 0.74
00:21:23.060 And let's be honest.
00:21:24.020 That chick at, like, 55 is going to be whining that nobody's catcalling her. 1.00
00:21:29.560 Exactly.
00:21:30.760 I don't know.
00:21:31.700 I feel like, I think when it comes to most office women, I, like, you can, like, literally 0.98
00:21:36.000 just sit outside a building and see that most are not dressed productively.
00:21:40.200 I think when it comes to, like, anecdotes that you gave, like, I experienced, like,
00:21:44.360 when I was 13, a guy did the same thing to me.
00:21:47.560 And I wasn't, I was dressed in, like, a 13-year-old's clothing.
00:21:50.340 Like, I wasn't dressed, like, sexy.
00:21:51.300 I mean, like I said, that's not to take away from the fact that people shouldn't have to
00:21:53.740 go through that full stop.
00:21:54.800 And it is weird and wrong.
00:21:56.100 Yeah.
00:21:56.240 But I just found it interesting.
00:21:58.320 And it's, like you say, I mean, it's purely anecdotal.
00:22:00.180 I just found it interesting that someone who presented herself such as that did have that kind
00:22:03.540 of story and someone who didn't present that bad.
00:22:07.620 I mean, you know, 100 years goes standards. 0.99
00:22:09.680 I mean, I'm dressed like an absolute whore. 0.98
00:22:11.120 Like, but, you know, there's levels to it. 0.98
00:22:15.960 You know, I'm not wishing these kind of experiences on anyone.
00:22:19.080 But I am saying that we do need to be a bit wiser.
00:22:22.640 We can't just expect to have the benefit of dressing extremely provocatively and then
00:22:28.340 not having any kind of...
00:22:29.540 Can I ask the ladies, like, when you get dressed up to go out or whatever, like, relationships 0.99
00:22:34.740 or whatever you're not, but do you, if no one ever gave you a compliment, if no one
00:22:40.020 ever recognised anything, would that be a problem?
00:22:42.780 Like, if you went out and nobody saw you, like, when I say no one saw you, like, just
00:22:46.700 you were invisible.
00:22:48.180 Yeah.
00:22:48.620 Would that, would you, how would you feel?
00:22:50.740 How would that make you feel?
00:22:52.340 It would make a difference.
00:22:53.500 Yeah.
00:22:53.660 You would, you'd feel kind of, um, you know, I would be like, I would be like, nobody liked
00:23:00.960 my shirt.
00:23:01.520 Yeah.
00:23:02.480 If he was wearing that, that's understandable.
00:23:05.600 But the reason why I ask it is...
00:23:07.500 But there's levels to it because it's like, it all comes down to this, this trend that
00:23:11.420 we keep seeing of like narcissism.
00:23:12.820 Like there's levels to it.
00:23:13.660 There's no one ever having coming up, come up to you ever.
00:23:17.100 But then there's, you know, most women, you know, none of us here are dressed extremely
00:23:21.460 provocatively, most women have had someone say a nice thing to us. 1.00
00:23:25.700 You know, every woman has mostly, not everyone, everyone here. 0.96
00:23:30.920 Girl, even fat chicks get compliments. 1.00
00:23:32.940 Well, there we go then. 0.79
00:23:33.900 Don't.
00:23:34.440 No, that's because they're easy.
00:23:35.880 But then there's the narcissistic level where it's like people get so hooked to wanting that
00:23:40.920 validation through things like compliments that they then go above and beyond to present
00:23:46.640 in such a way that it's happening so much.
00:23:49.000 And then when it happens from the guy they like, it's like, oh, great.
00:23:52.000 Love that for me, blah, blah, blah, one night stand, whatever, you know.
00:23:54.560 But then when it happens from a guy that they're not interested in, who are also going to find
00:23:58.000 them attractive, obviously, right?
00:23:59.100 Because they're presenting in such a way and it's sexual assault.
00:24:02.920 He did this to me and I can't believe this happened to me.
00:24:05.500 But it's like, well, you've you've bought that on yourself in the sense that you're so hooked
00:24:09.340 to this narcissistic, egotistic idea that you want to get complimented all the time that you are
00:24:14.060 then putting yourself in a position where people are going to compliment you all the time.
00:24:17.260 So who do you do makeup for and who do you get dressed up for when you go out there?
00:24:21.260 It's a very difficult question, isn't it?
00:24:23.260 Is it for the majority of men?
00:24:24.260 It's a very difficult question.
00:24:25.260 Because if it's for yourself as women always say, women always have a problem. 1.00
00:24:30.260 Like for me personally, men don't have a problem of saying we do everything for women.
00:24:33.260 Because technically we do everything we do.
00:24:34.260 We go out, we make money for you.
00:24:36.260 I get new outfits for you.
00:24:37.260 I get haircuts for you.
00:24:38.260 Get a new car.
00:24:39.260 The first thing I can think about are the types of girls I'm going to pull up in it. 1.00
00:24:41.260 Not because, but most men, we, it tends to lead to women at the end of it, right?
00:24:46.260 Because the things that we do, it tends to be, you want to secure a woman, you want to have a family, right? 0.98
00:24:49.260 But women seem to have a problem with saying that I do things for men. 0.99
00:24:53.260 I think it is ultimately for men, it's to attract a mate, you know?
00:24:57.260 And it's also, yeah, I can't even really justify it any other way.
00:25:03.260 It's for the attention.
00:25:04.260 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:25:05.260 If you think about it, like when we're at home and we know that nobody's coming over and no one's going to see us,
00:25:08.260 do we have our hair and makeup done?
00:25:10.260 But as soon as you know your partner's coming home, okay, quick, let me just make myself...
00:25:13.260 Exactly, you have a shower, you do your hair, you put your perfume on, all that stuff.
00:25:15.260 And then when you go out in public, you want to make sure you look your best.
00:25:18.260 So if it really was for us only, then we would be like this from the minute we woke up
00:25:22.260 and in the house with no one there.
00:25:24.260 I don't agree.
00:25:25.260 And I think there's a couple of things to break down here.
00:25:27.260 Like China, right? 0.51
00:25:29.260 Yes.
00:25:30.260 You don't have like a shirt that you like for yourself or like it's everything you buy.
00:25:34.260 You think, oh, women are going to like this. 1.00
00:25:35.260 Like you don't have an article of clothing or something that you're like, I like this.
00:25:38.260 And you just got it because of that.
00:25:40.260 Okay, so I don't.
00:25:41.260 Okay, so when I say women... 1.00
00:25:42.260 I mean, when he gets this shirt.
00:25:44.260 No, I can't even see for it.
00:25:46.260 It's like, I like how I look with makeup, right? 1.00
00:25:48.260 You've got pussy on your shirt. 1.00
00:25:49.260 No, it's not a pamper. 1.00
00:25:50.260 Oh, okay.
00:25:51.260 That's it. 1.00
00:25:52.260 No, black pussy. 1.00
00:25:54.260 Oh, that's brilliant. 1.00
00:25:55.260 No, so I'm not saying that I go out because I don't actually go out thinking of women,
00:25:59.260 but I'm saying men, everything that we do at some point, it leads back to women.
00:26:03.260 So I don't do it consciously.
00:26:06.260 But why would I get a haircut?
00:26:08.260 And it's not to try and not acknowledge the fact that like, of course, you know,
00:26:13.260 it's not saying that we do it all for men.
00:26:16.260 Like if it, for example, like I, I much prefer how I look with makeup on, right?
00:26:22.260 But I'm not ignorant to the fact that the reason I feel better with makeup on is because I get a better response from people, men included, with it on.
00:26:31.260 So, you know, no one's sitting here and saying that, you know, that the whole reason is because women, we don't care about ourselves at all. 1.00
00:26:40.260 And it's all about men.
00:26:41.260 Like, no, of course, you do things for a variety of reasons, but you have to be able to acknowledge.
00:26:46.260 Well, why do you like that?
00:26:48.260 And generally that's because we're social creatures and we feed off of positive reinforcement.
00:26:54.260 And, you know, that positive reinforcement might go back to, say, when you were a little girl, you wear your hair a certain type of way and your parents say,
00:27:00.260 I love your hair like that or something like that.
00:27:02.260 But ultimately, human beings, we can all derive generally what's attractive and what's not.
00:27:07.260 And what does that come down to?
00:27:08.260 Well, it's mating selection. 0.99
00:27:09.260 So I think that's the point that everyone's trying to make.
00:27:13.260 Like when we say like women wear makeup for men, it's not this idea that, oh, I really need a man to pick me.
00:27:19.260 And I don't care about myself.
00:27:21.260 And I'm just going to put a load of makeup on so I can get a man. 1.00
00:27:24.260 It's like, no, we're just acknowledging that biologically men and women do things to attract a mate.
00:27:30.260 Yeah, I agree that generally happens.
00:27:33.260 The only place where I would be hesitant is I do think all humans have like an inherent sense of beauty, regardless of mate selection.
00:27:41.260 So, for example, like we can acknowledge like a sunset is beautiful.
00:27:44.260 We can acknowledge like a lot of things are beautiful that don't have to do with mates.
00:27:48.260 And I think that also can come down to appearance.
00:27:50.260 Not saying that never happens with appearance.
00:27:52.260 Like, obviously, sometimes people dress for the opposite mate and stuff.
00:27:55.260 But I'm just hesitant when people are saying like all the time because I'm like, no, I think you can dress for yourself.
00:27:59.260 I think we can look up at general trends.
00:28:02.260 Right. And I had this thought.
00:28:03.260 OK.
00:28:04.260 And I thought, what happens first?
00:28:06.260 Do men ask for sex or do women ask for attention? 1.00
00:28:10.260 What comes first? 0.98
00:28:12.260 And I thought to myself and I was on a trip when I had this thought and I went to Vegas and I saw women without clothes on walking around the street with stickers on their boobs. 0.98
00:28:24.260 And what I see is that when women don't get the attention that they want, we just tend to take off our clothes. 0.99
00:28:31.260 Some women are prettier than others, so they don't have to do it, you know, but I go to workplace. 1.00
00:28:37.260 I see women start to take off their clothes. 1.00
00:28:39.260 You know, you used to have to wear pants.
00:28:41.260 Now they're wearing these mini skirts and they just seem to get more naked and more naked and more naked. 0.81
00:28:47.260 And I don't think it's for women now. 1.00
00:28:49.260 I mean, maybe you could argue that women put on their like fake eyelashes and like the boat and all that. 1.00
00:28:56.260 But it's usually they do it to compete with other women for men. 1.00
00:29:01.260 Because it can't be for men because if they ask men, we'll tell you we don't like that.
00:29:04.260 Take off them eyelashes.
00:29:05.260 Take out the fake hair.
00:29:06.260 Take out the fake nose.
00:29:07.260 Well, not all men.
00:29:09.260 OK, I wasn't.
00:29:11.260 It was for a podcast.
00:29:12.260 Get out.
00:29:13.260 Stop being weird, guys.
00:29:14.260 Now, question.
00:29:16.260 What else do you think we're oppressed because?
00:29:18.260 So, I told you why I disagree on the workplace.
00:29:22.260 I think men are discriminated way more because they can be falsely accused and then have promotions taken away and that sort of thing.
00:29:30.260 What else?
00:29:31.260 Yeah.
00:29:32.260 I mean, again, we disagree on that exactly.
00:29:35.260 I mean, not saying it never happens.
00:29:36.260 Just that, oh, I think more likely than not it happens that women are harassed to a level. 1.00
00:29:41.260 I think another example.
00:29:42.260 What can a woman do if she's harassed? 1.00
00:29:44.260 Is she able to report it?
00:29:47.260 Sometimes.
00:29:48.260 Sometimes they can't.
00:29:49.260 Sometimes they'll get punished if they report it.
00:29:50.260 Why would she not be able to report it?
00:29:52.260 Because sometimes, depending on the company structure, she'll be the one that's punished.
00:29:57.260 Would you say it's more common for her to be able to report it or to not report it?
00:30:02.260 I think not report it historically.
00:30:03.260 Do you think most?
00:30:04.260 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:30:05.260 This is 2020.
00:30:06.260 Even now.
00:30:07.260 No, this is 2020.
00:30:08.260 Do you think most companies have HR departments?
00:30:10.260 Yeah, but I think.
00:30:11.260 OK.
00:30:12.260 Who runs HR departments?
00:30:14.260 I think women and men.
00:30:16.260 It's much more.
00:30:17.260 No, no, no.
00:30:18.260 Yeah.
00:30:19.260 But the idea that like, again, HR, who they benefit most of all is a company.
00:30:23.260 So if they think it's easier to get rid of like a whiny, complainy woman, even if it's 1.00
00:30:28.260 women running it, they'll do it because. 1.00
00:30:30.260 No, they won't.
00:30:31.260 If that was the consensus, they'd get rid of the whole HR department because the HR department
00:30:34.260 doesn't bring anything into the business, doesn't make them money.
00:30:37.260 I know what you're saying.
00:30:38.260 I know what you're saying, Pixie, but the problem with that argument is that they've also
00:30:42.260 got to be seen to be politically correct because otherwise they could lay themselves
00:30:45.260 open to a, you know, to a lawsuit.
00:30:48.260 So so I tell you, I think I take your point on board, but I do think that they've got
00:30:53.260 these other nonprofit based concerns as well.
00:30:56.260 Yeah.
00:30:57.260 I think that's why it's like very like hyper dependent on the company because you definitely
00:31:00.260 have some companies that think like, oh, you know, if we get rid of the woman or whatever,
00:31:05.260 like, you know, she doesn't have the resources to sue. 0.95
00:31:07.260 That's not going to happen.
00:31:08.260 How many?
00:31:09.260 OK, so I have a question.
00:31:10.260 Where have you worked?
00:31:11.260 I've worked for like a nonprofit before.
00:31:15.260 I've worked.
00:31:16.260 OK, what kind of nonprofit was it?
00:31:18.260 It was like, what is it like the medical supply stuff?
00:31:22.260 OK, so you worked for a nonprofit that sold medical supplies?
00:31:26.260 No, that was it was it was like part of like the mission trip and stuff like.
00:31:30.260 OK, and your experience there was that the women had nowhere to complain to. 0.99
00:31:34.260 Well, it was like a very small, small department.
00:31:38.260 There might have been like in the parent company they could have, but not like necessarily in the.
00:31:43.260 OK, I just want to know, like, where because a lot of the stuff you.
00:31:46.260 Basically not an actual real job that most people have.
00:31:50.260 A lot of people work in nonprofits.
00:31:52.260 Compared to people that work in actual jobs.
00:31:55.260 You don't consider a nonprofit an actual job?
00:31:57.260 No, it's not.
00:31:58.260 OK, well, I think we have a fundamental disagreement on what a functional job.
00:32:02.260 Well, my point is, I just don't know, like, where you get this stuff from.
00:32:07.260 Like, like women just I don't see women harassed in the workplace. 1.00
00:32:11.260 Do you make money? 0.99
00:32:12.260 This is could be a really dumb question. 0.98
00:32:14.260 Do you make money? 0.95
00:32:15.260 Did you make money there?
00:32:16.260 Like, do they pay you to work or are you a volunteer?
00:32:19.260 What is it?
00:32:20.260 Well, I was a volunteer.
00:32:21.260 Oh, OK.
00:32:22.260 So I agree with you.
00:32:23.260 I don't think it's a job.
00:32:24.260 Like, you just contradict yourself left, right and center.
00:32:27.260 Because a job is something that someone does because.
00:32:30.260 I've also done media management for other companies.
00:32:32.260 And I've got paid for that.
00:32:34.260 So I just use that one.
00:32:37.260 OK, because I consider.
00:32:38.260 Well, OK.
00:32:39.260 Well, no, because I consider real work or important work, work that helps other people.
00:32:43.260 So that's where my mind went to first.
00:32:45.260 We care about the fact of.
00:32:46.260 OK.
00:32:47.260 OK.
00:32:48.260 The fact is I did labor.
00:32:49.260 OK.
00:32:50.260 So I don't.
00:32:51.260 OK.
00:32:52.260 So and then your other experience was media.
00:32:54.260 Media management.
00:32:55.260 Yeah.
00:32:56.260 OK.
00:32:57.260 OK.
00:32:58.260 It's OK if it isn't or if it is.
00:32:59.260 I'm just asking.
00:33:00.260 Yeah, I know.
00:33:01.260 I worked with another nonprofit and I did get paid for.
00:33:03.260 So I just think I just think in a bit, you know, that's a bit of a bubble, like especially
00:33:08.260 a YouTuber's media personnel like media.
00:33:11.260 I just think this isn't real life.
00:33:13.260 You know, I think that the conversations we have.
00:33:16.260 Sure.
00:33:17.260 But like when it comes to like what most people experience at work, I don't think it's really
00:33:23.260 comparable.
00:33:24.260 OK.
00:33:25.260 I have a friend.
00:33:26.260 So who.
00:33:27.260 What is it?
00:33:28.260 She was she's a civil engineer. 1.00
00:33:29.260 She was like working with her company, her department.
00:33:31.260 Her boss was like harassing her, both like making demeaning comments of her as a woman.
00:33:36.260 OK.
00:33:37.260 Well, what were the demeaning comments?
00:33:38.260 Like, oh, like you wouldn't understand, like literally like straight up, like you wouldn't
00:33:42.260 understand this because you're a woman, even though she got had her degree.
00:33:46.260 I have a question.
00:33:47.260 Are there things that women typically don't understand about men or that don't understand
00:33:52.260 because we're a woman? 0.98
00:33:54.260 Sure.
00:33:55.260 But.
00:33:56.260 So.
00:33:57.260 Is it possible that that was true?
00:33:59.260 Not in the context that was.
00:34:01.260 OK.
00:34:02.260 What was the context?
00:34:03.260 The context was like, oh, like, I don't want you to work on this project or you should
00:34:07.260 go get coffee instead.
00:34:08.260 What was what was the project?
00:34:10.260 Civil engineering related.
00:34:11.260 OK.
00:34:12.260 So she she had a civil engineering job. 0.97
00:34:14.260 Yes.
00:34:15.260 And what was she doing specifically?
00:34:16.260 I can't remember if it was like something with like bridge measurements or like building
00:34:21.260 measurements.
00:34:22.260 OK.
00:34:23.260 Is it possible that he was joking?
00:34:24.260 No.
00:34:25.260 OK.
00:34:26.260 There's no possibility.
00:34:27.260 No.
00:34:28.260 He repeatedly was not trying to give her like, you know, actual work and was trying to like
00:34:32.260 make her get hurt.
00:34:33.260 Does she not get paid either way? 1.00
00:34:34.260 If she goes and gets coffee or if she takes part in the project, does she not get paid
00:34:37.260 either way?
00:34:38.260 It doesn't matter because the whole idea is like how old is she?
00:34:42.260 She's my age.
00:34:43.260 OK.
00:34:44.260 So she's 24.
00:34:45.260 Yeah.
00:34:46.260 So I'll tell you what happens that a lot of these engineering firms.
00:34:48.260 My brothers are all engineers.
00:34:49.260 They do preferential hiring for women.
00:34:52.260 So a lot of times less qualified women get jobs that they don't really deserve. 1.00
00:34:57.260 This is super common.
00:34:58.260 I've talked to headhunters about this.
00:35:00.260 And what I what I would guess probably happened is she was probably in a job she doesn't she 1.00
00:35:04.260 didn't deserve.
00:35:05.260 Now this is just speculating, right?
00:35:08.260 Yeah.
00:35:09.260 Because really, if you're that useful, people use you like people.
00:35:12.260 I've only I've only been in male dominated industries pretty much.
00:35:17.260 I worked in, you know, copier sales.
00:35:19.260 I never had a problem getting getting the men to take me seriously because if you're useful,
00:35:24.260 people use you. 0.98
00:35:25.260 And the thing is, a lot of useless women have jobs they don't deserve and wine. 1.00
00:35:31.260 I think and ultimately it's down to her what she does with that statement. 0.97
00:35:36.260 Like this is this is the problem I have with the whole like harassment and things like that
00:35:40.260 because it's like, all right, so she got told, you know, what was it?
00:35:44.260 You wouldn't understand because you're a woman. 1.00
00:35:45.260 That's what you said.
00:35:46.260 Yeah.
00:35:47.260 I just don't believe it.
00:35:48.260 Even still, right?
00:35:49.260 If a guy said that to me, I'm not going and complaining to HR.
00:35:53.260 Like it is what it is.
00:35:54.260 It's down to you what you deal with that.
00:35:56.260 Whereas something like actual sexual assault, the man literally goes and sexually assaults
00:36:00.260 her in the women's bathroom. 0.99
00:36:02.260 That is a bit different.
00:36:03.260 Like she can't really do anything about that.
00:36:05.260 But what she can do is decide whether she's going to cause a big scene over a comment 0.93
00:36:10.260 or whether she's just going to get great.
00:36:13.260 Let me give you an anecdotal experience.
00:36:14.260 I used to work at Amazon before I got this job.
00:36:17.260 And obviously I'm from Africa and I'm here.
00:36:21.260 And then I got into Amazon and then I started speaking with these white people.
00:36:25.260 I have to say it like that so that you guys get the picture.
00:36:28.260 And the usual comment I always get immediately is, oh wow, your English is so good.
00:36:34.260 And I look at these people and I'm like, I literally have a degree in Actuarial Science
00:36:40.260 and Insurance.
00:36:41.260 I'm more educated than most of you that are here.
00:36:44.260 But then you comment on the fact that my English sounds so good because I'm black.
00:36:48.260 And because I come from Nigeria in quotes.
00:36:51.260 That, if that was said to a woman, HR straight.
00:36:55.260 What is it?
00:36:56.260 There's a couple of things.
00:36:57.260 First of all, my friend is very qualified.
00:36:59.260 She graduated from Columbia.
00:37:01.260 She had like multiple, like already like some years of experience while she was in school.
00:37:06.260 Women always think they're qualified. 1.00
00:37:07.260 I mean, if we were going to talk narcissism, women always think we're more qualified than we are. 1.00
00:37:12.260 Okay.
00:37:13.260 But okay, she had her degree, whatever.
00:37:15.260 She had her degree from like one of the most prestigious universities in America.
00:37:18.260 Plus work experience. 0.98
00:37:19.260 Well, if I haven't met so many dumb people from those universities, I would be convinced. 0.97
00:37:24.260 But I don't think that that really means much. 0.98
00:37:27.260 Okay.
00:37:28.260 And my brothers, my brothers all work in engineering.
00:37:30.260 I have 10 siblings.
00:37:32.260 Half of my family is literally engineers.
00:37:35.260 It doesn't matter.
00:37:36.260 Not much.
00:37:37.260 No, I just think.
00:37:38.260 Okay. 0.92
00:37:39.260 So, so she got a prissy degree. 0.94
00:37:40.260 Who cares? 0.95
00:37:41.260 Okay.
00:37:42.260 Like, oh no, like a lot of women get these positions that they don't deserve. 1.00
00:37:46.260 Blah, blah, blah.
00:37:47.260 It would make more sense to be like, oh, you know, I don't think you have enough experience
00:37:51.260 to do this versus you're a woman.
00:37:53.260 So you can't do it.
00:37:54.260 But see, the men don't really have a say.
00:37:56.260 So the hire, the guy that's hiring, like they have, they have to do it for their diversity
00:38:01.260 hires.
00:38:02.260 Okay.
00:38:03.260 And again, that's you telling men how to talk.
00:38:05.260 And this is my problem. 1.00
00:38:06.260 I say, if you want to be in a man's world, be in it and stop fucking complaining. 0.99
00:38:10.260 I'm so sick of women going into, into men's workplace. 1.00
00:38:14.260 We asked to be in the workforce. 1.00
00:38:16.260 So stop fucking whining when you get into a man's job and they make jokes you don't like, 0.99
00:38:22.260 they start talking to you the way that you don't appreciate, and they don't say it how 0.99
00:38:26.260 you think you should, they should say it.
00:38:28.260 Because all it is is narcissism where you're going around telling everybody how to talk
00:38:33.260 and bitching and whining for women like me and other women that have worked in male 1.00
00:38:37.260 environments and didn't whine and didn't complain and just did the work. 0.99
00:38:41.260 And if my boss asked me to get coffee because I was a woman, I wouldn't give a shit. 1.00
00:38:46.260 I wouldn't complain. 1.00
00:38:47.260 I would just go get it because I don't bitch and moan about fucking nothing. 1.00
00:38:51.260 I think, what is it? 0.99
00:38:53.260 You're essentially saying that, you know, women can never be harassed.
00:38:56.260 That's okay from that.
00:38:57.260 That's not what I said.
00:38:58.260 I said, I said that, I know, I said that a joke is not harassment.
00:39:02.260 Him saying that to me was not be harassment.
00:39:05.260 And I'm tired of women whining. 1.00
00:39:07.260 Him repeatedly not letting you do work, like making you get coffee, like talking down to you.
00:39:13.260 I would say this is amazing.
00:39:14.260 I get to work less.
00:39:16.260 And you know what I would do?
00:39:17.260 You know what I would do if I didn't like it?
00:39:19.260 I'd go get a different job rather than whine.
00:39:21.260 Okay.
00:39:22.260 And that's the thing.
00:39:23.260 A lot of men go through as well.
00:39:24.260 Men get into jobs where other men on top literally make them do things they don't want to do. 0.99
00:39:29.260 Well, yeah.
00:39:30.260 You shouldn't be misleading.
00:39:31.260 They don't go then scream harassment.
00:39:32.260 No, but they have to do it to build up, to get to where they want to be.
00:39:36.260 A lot of times men do things they don't want to do, but they have to do it because that
00:39:40.260 is just.
00:39:41.260 Okay.
00:39:42.260 What else?
00:39:43.260 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:39:44.260 I want to see this.
00:39:45.260 How do you feel if somebody said, oh, you know, I don't think you can do this because 0.98
00:39:48.260 you're black. 0.79
00:39:49.260 But straight away off the bat, your question is, how do you feel?
00:39:53.260 Exactly.
00:39:54.260 I will feel however I feel.
00:39:55.260 It doesn't change anything.
00:39:56.260 Okay.
00:39:57.260 But do you think it's unfair?
00:39:58.260 Well, that's unfair or not.
00:39:59.260 Doesn't matter.
00:40:00.260 Life is unfair.
00:40:01.260 Life is unfair and we should try to make it fair.
00:40:04.260 No, but this is the problem.
00:40:05.260 We should work towards a fair society.
00:40:06.260 But who made you God?
00:40:07.260 What do you mean?
00:40:08.260 I'm not God.
00:40:09.260 I'm saying that we should all work towards a fair society.
00:40:11.260 No, but this is the problem with privileged, often white liberals is they think everything
00:40:16.260 should be fair.
00:40:17.260 And oftentimes they grew up in the most unfair thing because we came from two parent homes
00:40:23.260 and oftentimes well off neighborhoods.
00:40:25.260 And then we're whining about fairness.
00:40:27.260 Yeah.
00:40:28.260 I want everybody to have a good life.
00:40:29.260 We had the ultimate advantage ever.
00:40:31.260 Yeah.
00:40:32.260 And that's why I want everybody to live a good life.
00:40:34.260 No, but then, and so what they do is they go everywhere and whine and bitch and complain 1.00
00:40:38.260 to get on with it. 0.81
00:40:39.260 They go into these male workplace. 1.00
00:40:40.260 As many of you know, I was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis
00:40:47.260 on this platform.
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