She Gets CASTIGATED For Supporting Women's Indecent Dressing
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On this episode of Thick & Thin, we talk about the recent Pizzagate controversy and how to deal with it. We also talk about women in general and how they should be treated in the 21st century.
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Like, do you know what I'm saying? Like, they'll add in, they'll they'll keep raising these numbers to qualify them under poverty so they can get more benefits for from whatever agenda they're trying to push or pass a policy that takes away freedom.
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That's what they do. And you start to see just how manipulative and it's the same thing with like, OK, the women are more likely to kill children.
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And then what does she say? Oh, well, it's because they're with them. Like, it's like this nonsense. And so, again, we go back to, you know, personally, I think the best way you can come to conclusions is what we see in reality.
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Daniel Okor, I'm happy that Pizza Girl is getting pushback. Carrie, I don't like Pixie, but she's right. Most of Africa and other continents she mentioned mentions do have poverty.
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Poverty. Poverty does cause mental illness. Doug MPA, American women have aborted more babies than most African countries. There are two cities in the U.S. that don't have clean water. Jackson, Mississippi and Flint, Michigan. Pixie's a dangerous. She's a demon.
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Sigma MP10, as a man, we need to get out of our feelings when we have these conversations. As of 2020, the life expectancy of Nigerians was 52.89 compared to 77 years in the U.S.
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It's not an insult to say Westerners live longer. Zero fallout. Love how the white liberal women talking for minorities, but Pixie has never been to Colombia.
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She is a true acting like a racist. People don't know how to survive. Dragon Stallion. Pixie, do you know anything? The Maasai tribe in Africa is a very happy bunch of hunter and gatherer people.
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They don't base things on what you think they should live like. Beat in cheeks. If you guys paid for Pixie's plane ticket for this appearance, get your refund back.
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Colombia is better maintained than her entire brain can master. I go there once a month. They are happy.
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Just sad. A15. Pixie names to change her name to Cuttery because she is our country. Wow. Guys, you guys are a bit rude.
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You know, demon, that's a little fun. We don't have to call the women demons. Like, you could just say she has a different point of view.
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I'll read it, though. Sorry. Because she's a contrary person on YouTube. Beat in cheeks.
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Pixie doesn't know anything, and I lived over South America, Europe, Asia, and she needs to put her ignorance out of the butt.
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Thing, Matra. The lady knows nothing. I'm from a third world, and mental health issues and kids are a minute.
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ADHD, nada. People can be poor and really happy. Pixie, what does it feel to have the same mentality as Margaret Sanger?
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Okay, a lot of these were at you, so go ahead if you have any thoughts.
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I never said the Messiah tribe. I specifically referred to at you.
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Obviously, every single country has, like, a lot of different people. You're going to have areas that are nicer.
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You're going to have areas that are poorer. I don't think that should be controversial.
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I think that's just a fact. Also, I'm not a demon, believe it or not.
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And sadly, I can't, you know? Throw some holy water at me or something.
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You know what they said to me in the chat, telling us how to speak? Now she's getting entitled.
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I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I'm curious. Why do you think women are oppressed?
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I think it depends on, like, what metric. I think, for example, like, women are more likely to face, like, sexual harassment in the workplace.
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So I have a question. I'm going to... We're going to go to the next one, but just a quick question.
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Do you think men typically will report sexual harassment?
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Um, at least when it comes to, like, surveys that make it more possible to people report truly, like, anonymous surveys,
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it still comes out that women are... still report higher rates of sexual harassment.
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Do you think women are honest about sexual harassment?
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We don't... We don't see a Me Too, like, problem?
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Um, I think most women are accurate or at least honest, especially when it comes to, like, anonymous survey data,
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where there's, like, no incentive to really lie.
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You can make, like, biological arguments for, like, why that's the case.
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I think getting someone that you dislike in trouble is enough reason to...
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No, no. I mean, like, surveys where it's, like, oh, you know, they send it to, like, a thousand random people,
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and they're, like, have you ever been sexually harassed?
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What do you define harassment? Blah, blah, blah.
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Um, so your boss is making, like, inappropriate comments about how you look,
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about wanting to do, like, sexual actions with you, touching you inappropriately.
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Um, like, dang, girl, you got a good booty. I want to touch that.
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Okay, what if the women are dressing half-naked to work?
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Um, I think Jesus said that, like, pluck thy own eyes out or whatever when it comes to wondering.
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No, but I'm saying, like, do you think there's a problem with women dressing inappropriately to work?
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Um, I'm sure there's, like, a couple examples of women who don't know how to dress properly,
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but I think most of the time, like, they get in trouble for, like, workplace, like, violations, too.
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Like, that can be considered a form of sexual harassment, you know,
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if you're, like, showing your dress to, like, a man, just like how if, like, a man was showing...
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And what happens when they try to enforce dress codes?
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Do women typically say, oh, that's so reasonable?
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I think most of the time, if it goes, like, out of bounds, like, there could be, like, legal issues.
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Like, like, in general, when we hear dress codes, do women typically comply or complain?
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I mean, have you ever heard a story of women whining about the dress codes and calling them sexist?
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Well, I think sometimes, um, sometimes it is sexist, right?
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Like, the idea that if I show my ankles, I'm somehow, like, trying to seduce a man.
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No, no, but, like, historically, it's, like, an example.
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Because what women will do is they'll dress really provocatively.
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Because, I mean, by every metric, you're signaling that you want to be approached if you're dressing super provocatively.
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A lot of times, I would argue women flirt for attention.
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But a lot, I think, a lot of times when men respond, then women cry harassment.
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I actually think that men are discriminated more in the workplace because I think a lot of times if they...
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Because, again, it's a joke that you deem appropriate.
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And if the wrong joke is said or they say the wrong thing or look at you the wrong way, the women can go to HR or cry harassment.
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And we know that HR is for the company and it's for women.
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I know somebody personally who was sexually harassed.
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A man sexually harassed at work over time constantly.
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And then the woman had the audacity to then go to HR crying, like Pearl just said, lying about what happened, saying that she was uncomfortable from a comment that he made.
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And when he made the comment to literally just protect himself and to stop what she was doing to him.
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I know another girl we were speaking with the other day.
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She said that two people in the workplace had a consensual relationship.
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She then was upset and then got him fired because she said that she was uncomfortable and potentially sexually harassed him.
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So I think, and also there was something I saw that women always have a man in the workplace that they're excited to see.
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Why are women wearing pencil skirts, high heels, showing cleavage, having buttoned down tops, all of these things.
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Like even in my workplace, you know, obviously working in a law firm, sometimes it's casual, sometimes it's not.
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But some of the women, they dress so sexy and it's like, I'm uncomfortable.
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I think that women dress provocatively and then they cry when they get the attention that they really want.
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Well, I think the common theme here, though, is the believable women thing, isn't it?
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My advice to men is, right, because the workplace traditionally, like statistically speaking, that used to be where you would meet your partner, right?
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It was either like in school or like high school and then or work.
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A lot of people would, you know, the office work party at Christmas time, you know.
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So I say to men, do not speak to any girls at work.
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Do not, do not, men, do not speak to these girls at work because if she likes you, oh, it's okay.
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But if she doesn't like your advances, it's a trip to Karen in HR.
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And once again, like, you know, there's always a Karen in HR.
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But like, you know, we talk about stats, but I'll give an adult or one of my friends, you know, I'm not going to mention his name.
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But the reason why is because most men have friends that have been through this or been through something similar.
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And these two weren't even, they weren't even sexual.
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They're just flirtatious things, you know, a few messages.
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You know, she'll drop messages on his, on his, on his car, little things like that.
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The moment he got the position, problems start to arise now.
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And then she started saying to him, basically he had to, he became a manager.
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So he had to obviously now instruct her and start telling her certain things.
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So then she started saying, you know, to the other, she doesn't like, she doesn't like working with him.
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Obviously he doesn't like the way he's become a manager.
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Well, and then the other thing is like, why, why is he flirting with you?
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Like, cause like the women will complain about these comments, but it's like, men are pretty timid nowadays.
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You know, they, they don't typically want to risk.
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Like, typically it's like, were you dressed a certain way?
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Like, usually there is some signal that women give to men to, when they give you, like, I think they said 90% of the time women make the first move.
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So, like either, if they include, yeah, if they include like, I can't remember how they counted it, but there was some like pre-signal that women get to get men to approach them.
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I mean, usually you guys know, like women will give you a look or like something.
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Sorry to just add to that, to what you're saying.
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That's very true because in recent years of dating, I get told, oh yeah, you don't make the first move.
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But because of the way society is made, I'm like, I'm not going to make a move.
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You have to almost tell me, like, you know what I'm saying?
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I said, no, because for men, that's how I protect myself.
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And so, it's like, if a guy is going to risk his job, like, typically she has done something to signal she likes him.
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And like, but we just automatically, and you kind of had it too.
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You said, well, I think most of them are telling the truth.
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I think they're, I think we should believe that.
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And she's told him that obviously it's because of, you know, misconduct in the office.
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So, now he has to go in, has to write a statement, go through all these types of things he has to go through.
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And essentially, she got moved to a different place.
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But what happened was is he didn't go past further than what he was going to go to.
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He's still suffering from it now, like PTSD from it.
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And the reason why I say it is because he felt like, why is my sister doing this to me?
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Like, he was telling, he was literally saying it to me.
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Like, I'm trying to come up and we've come up from nothing.
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To the point of where now he hasn't gone any further.
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Because he's like, oh, I've seen what happens when you try to rise up.
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So, I think we just really need to listen to the stories of men that are out there that are really, that are going for it.
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And I do not recommend any man should be approaching women.
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I believe women, I'm not someone that approaches women.
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But no, but a woman can let you know if she wants you to approach.
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They can look at you, I mean, handkerchief, like literally they can smile at you.
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But that one where a girl's walking past you, try to grab her arm and she has not even looked at you.
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Yeah, don't do, don't even touch no woman until she says I like you.
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Don't even bother putting your hand on no woman.
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So I'm curious, when you hear this stuff, what's your thought?
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I think it definitely does happen that some women, you know, cry wolf.
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I think the idea of, like, I'm sorry, but I don't think a pencil skirt and button blouse is like sexy for me.
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Have you seen like the fantasy that men have about like a woman at work?
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That is a pencil skirt that is tight to your figure that shows your curves.
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So obviously she can't say what she wants to say.
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It doesn't make any sense if we're trying to like shame her for saying she doesn't.
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Of course she doesn't think it's sexy because she's not a man.
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I feel like the problem is like, like men can sometimes make almost anything sexual.
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I think like, again, to me, that's, it's true though.
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Look at the people, like, look at historically, right?
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When it's like, oh, like, no, like they can't show their ankles.
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Showing that you're like a human being with like anatomy.
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Like, I think it's sexy if I start showing my breasts.
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Sure, if I start like, you know, making it close where you can like see my private areas.
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But I don't think it's enough to just say like, oh, yeah, like I have a body.
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Like, that's, I don't think that's inherently sexy.
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You don't think there's such thing as provocative clothing?
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Why do you think women dressed so modestly before?
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I think that was the societal standard at the time.
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And yeah, men were like, oh, no, if you show ankles, that's too sexy.
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So you think it was because the men just couldn't like handle it?
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I think that, yeah, they were just like social norms in place that like as we started growing
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as a society, we were like, wait, men aren't dogs.
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Like men can look at an angle and not like, you know, salivate.
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We had those social norms in place because I do think that they were used as a tool to
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try to like control women and like repress them.
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So because people were married and they wanted to protect their wives.
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They had a family and women did not want to signal to other men that they were available.
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Do you think that dressing is always signaling to other men?
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If I dress like a police officer, am I going to be shocked that anyone comes up to me to
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You send messages like this awesome one right here based on what you wear.
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You are sending a message to the world about how they should perceive you.
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I think what is it, I think clothing is a part of identity and I think people express
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I don't think that automatically means that old clothing is meant for seduction.
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So how come a man in a skirt can walk into a woman's bathroom then?
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Because you're saying like, okay, like you're acknowledging that clothing is part of an
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identity, but you're saying that's not the whole thing.
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Well, if it's not the whole thing, then how come we live in a world where a man can walk
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into a woman's bathroom just from wearing a skirt because clearly identity is the whole
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And if you can acknowledge that, then you can acknowledge that a woman sending certain
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messages through how she is dressed is going to lead to certain consequences.
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No, but Christine, you can't control how, you can't control how people, what people think
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of you, but you can control the message that you send to people.
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So you can never, we can never, ever control what someone's going to think, but I can control
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And this is the thing what people don't like, like there's, you know what I mean?
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Like you, the choices and trade-offs, you can dress however you want to, but you don't
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get to dress however you want to and expect no outcomes from it.
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And when we ever speak about it, they're going to start saying, oh, you're victim shaming,
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you're policing women, you're saying to women how to dress.
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But as a man with three sisters, I've always said, I just tell you how my father raised me
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to look after my sisters and whenever we speak about women, be careful about what they wear
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or who they're around, their surroundings, there's always, oh, but it's because modern
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women want to feel as if they can go out in this world without any consequence, but us
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as men, as leaders, we understand, we've built the world.
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The whole reason you can go out in these dresses is because of the patriarchy.
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The same patriarchy you keep complaining about is the one that has made it allow for
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And if women, if a group of women come, you're not going to really feel too safe.
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So this thing where women don't really understand, men have built and civilized
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the world so you can now go out in a short skirt and do whatever you want.
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So you can literally, you're protected, but you're only protected because men have.
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And if you was walking around showing ankles, then you might have found yourself
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But you see, it goes back to women wanting to do whatever they want without consequence,
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So for instance, she's saying all these things about, oh, just because I'm dressed a certain
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way, blah, blah, blah, which is the normal rhetoric around women.
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But the reality of the world is the way the world operates, you are literally addressed
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Even in the world of men, if I'm walking down the road wearing a balaclava or wearing a
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If I'm wearing a suit, even the women are going to look at me a certain way.
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If I walk up to a woman wearing a suit now and I speak to her, maybe I'm rolling a Ben's
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key in my hand, I'm passing a message, she would look at me a certain way.
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If I go around the corner and the next five seconds rub mud on my face, wear some tartar
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clothes and come back to the same woman, she's going to think I'm a completely different
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I was on a talk show recently with a lady who was literally a self-proclaimed bimbo.
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And she had, you know, all the facial work, all of that, the fake boobs, and it was all
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And she was wearing these stilettos and the stilettos literally said sex on it.
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But you shouldn't make any conclusions based on those.
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She told me a story about how she was walking somewhere and a guy just sort of came out
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and he was, how do I put this politely, getting himself off to her, like in front of her.
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And what came to mind for me, and I really regret not saying this at the time, actually,
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because it only came to mind afterwards, that's never happened to me.
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And I don't think that that's a coincidence that to someone like her who presents herself
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in such a way that she has had that kind of experience.
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Now, I'm not taking away from the fact that that is wrong.
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However, people like that do exist in this world.
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And I think it's down to each of us and our own, you know, sovereignty and responsibility
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over how we present ourselves to take efforts to not put ourselves in dangerous situations.
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And I think things like provocative clothing, you know, you shouldn't then complain when you're
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getting those kind of results because you have, in a way, you know, bought it on yourself.
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The other day, just quickly, I was speaking to a woman on the street.
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We're doing street interviews, me and my husband.
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And this girl, she said, you know, something terrible happened to me today.
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I wasn't going to say anything, but, you know, I'll tell you guys.
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And the thing is, with this catcall thing, like, if the guy's attractive and you like him,
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And if you find him ugly and unattractive, you're going to be offended.
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That chick at, like, 55 is going to be whining that nobody's catcalling her.
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I feel like, I think when it comes to most office women, I, like, you can, like, literally
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just sit outside a building and see that most are not dressed productively.
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I think when it comes to, like, anecdotes that you gave, like, I experienced, like,
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And I wasn't, I was dressed in, like, a 13-year-old's clothing.
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I mean, like I said, that's not to take away from the fact that people shouldn't have to
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And it's, like you say, I mean, it's purely anecdotal.
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I just found it interesting that someone who presented herself such as that did have that kind
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of story and someone who didn't present that bad.
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You know, I'm not wishing these kind of experiences on anyone.
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But I am saying that we do need to be a bit wiser.
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We can't just expect to have the benefit of dressing extremely provocatively and then
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Can I ask the ladies, like, when you get dressed up to go out or whatever, like, relationships
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or whatever you're not, but do you, if no one ever gave you a compliment, if no one
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ever recognised anything, would that be a problem?
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Like, if you went out and nobody saw you, like, when I say no one saw you, like, just
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You would, you'd feel kind of, um, you know, I would be like, I would be like, nobody liked
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But there's levels to it because it's like, it all comes down to this, this trend that
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There's no one ever having coming up, come up to you ever.
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But then there's, you know, most women, you know, none of us here are dressed extremely
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provocatively, most women have had someone say a nice thing to us.
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You know, every woman has mostly, not everyone, everyone here.
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But then there's the narcissistic level where it's like people get so hooked to wanting that
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validation through things like compliments that they then go above and beyond to present
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And then when it happens from the guy they like, it's like, oh, great.
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Love that for me, blah, blah, blah, one night stand, whatever, you know.
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But then when it happens from a guy that they're not interested in, who are also going to find
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Because they're presenting in such a way and it's sexual assault.
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He did this to me and I can't believe this happened to me.
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But it's like, well, you've you've bought that on yourself in the sense that you're so hooked
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to this narcissistic, egotistic idea that you want to get complimented all the time that you are
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then putting yourself in a position where people are going to compliment you all the time.
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So who do you do makeup for and who do you get dressed up for when you go out there?
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Because if it's for yourself as women always say, women always have a problem.
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Like for me personally, men don't have a problem of saying we do everything for women.
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The first thing I can think about are the types of girls I'm going to pull up in it.
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Not because, but most men, we, it tends to lead to women at the end of it, right?
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Because the things that we do, it tends to be, you want to secure a woman, you want to have a family, right?
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But women seem to have a problem with saying that I do things for men.
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I think it is ultimately for men, it's to attract a mate, you know?
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And it's also, yeah, I can't even really justify it any other way.
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If you think about it, like when we're at home and we know that nobody's coming over and no one's going to see us,
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But as soon as you know your partner's coming home, okay, quick, let me just make myself...
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Exactly, you have a shower, you do your hair, you put your perfume on, all that stuff.
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And then when you go out in public, you want to make sure you look your best.
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So if it really was for us only, then we would be like this from the minute we woke up
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And I think there's a couple of things to break down here.
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You don't have like a shirt that you like for yourself or like it's everything you buy.
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Like you don't have an article of clothing or something that you're like, I like this.
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It's like, I like how I look with makeup, right?
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No, so I'm not saying that I go out because I don't actually go out thinking of women,
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but I'm saying men, everything that we do at some point, it leads back to women.
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And it's not to try and not acknowledge the fact that like, of course, you know,
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Like if it, for example, like I, I much prefer how I look with makeup on, right?
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But I'm not ignorant to the fact that the reason I feel better with makeup on is because I get a better response from people, men included, with it on.
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So, you know, no one's sitting here and saying that, you know, that the whole reason is because women, we don't care about ourselves at all.
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Like, no, of course, you do things for a variety of reasons, but you have to be able to acknowledge.
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And generally that's because we're social creatures and we feed off of positive reinforcement.
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And, you know, that positive reinforcement might go back to, say, when you were a little girl, you wear your hair a certain type of way and your parents say,
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I love your hair like that or something like that.
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But ultimately, human beings, we can all derive generally what's attractive and what's not.
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So I think that's the point that everyone's trying to make.
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Like when we say like women wear makeup for men, it's not this idea that, oh, I really need a man to pick me.
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And I'm just going to put a load of makeup on so I can get a man.
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It's like, no, we're just acknowledging that biologically men and women do things to attract a mate.
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The only place where I would be hesitant is I do think all humans have like an inherent sense of beauty, regardless of mate selection.
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So, for example, like we can acknowledge like a sunset is beautiful.
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We can acknowledge like a lot of things are beautiful that don't have to do with mates.
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And I think that also can come down to appearance.
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Like, obviously, sometimes people dress for the opposite mate and stuff.
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But I'm just hesitant when people are saying like all the time because I'm like, no, I think you can dress for yourself.
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Do men ask for sex or do women ask for attention?
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And I thought to myself and I was on a trip when I had this thought and I went to Vegas and I saw women without clothes on walking around the street with stickers on their boobs.
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And what I see is that when women don't get the attention that they want, we just tend to take off our clothes.
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Some women are prettier than others, so they don't have to do it, you know, but I go to workplace.
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Now they're wearing these mini skirts and they just seem to get more naked and more naked and more naked.
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I mean, maybe you could argue that women put on their like fake eyelashes and like the boat and all that.
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But it's usually they do it to compete with other women for men.
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Because it can't be for men because if they ask men, we'll tell you we don't like that.
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What else do you think we're oppressed because?
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So, I told you why I disagree on the workplace.
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I think men are discriminated way more because they can be falsely accused and then have promotions taken away and that sort of thing.
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Just that, oh, I think more likely than not it happens that women are harassed to a level.
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Sometimes they'll get punished if they report it.
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Because sometimes, depending on the company structure, she'll be the one that's punished.
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Would you say it's more common for her to be able to report it or to not report it?
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Do you think most companies have HR departments?
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But the idea that like, again, HR, who they benefit most of all is a company.
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So if they think it's easier to get rid of like a whiny, complainy woman, even if it's
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If that was the consensus, they'd get rid of the whole HR department because the HR department
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doesn't bring anything into the business, doesn't make them money.
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I know what you're saying, Pixie, but the problem with that argument is that they've also
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got to be seen to be politically correct because otherwise they could lay themselves
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So so I tell you, I think I take your point on board, but I do think that they've got
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I think that's why it's like very like hyper dependent on the company because you definitely
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have some companies that think like, oh, you know, if we get rid of the woman or whatever,
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like, you know, she doesn't have the resources to sue.
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It was like, what is it like the medical supply stuff?
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OK, so you worked for a nonprofit that sold medical supplies?
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No, that was it was it was like part of like the mission trip and stuff like.
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OK, and your experience there was that the women had nowhere to complain to.
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Well, it was like a very small, small department.
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There might have been like in the parent company they could have, but not like necessarily in the.
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OK, I just want to know, like, where because a lot of the stuff you.
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Basically not an actual real job that most people have.
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OK, well, I think we have a fundamental disagreement on what a functional job.
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Well, my point is, I just don't know, like, where you get this stuff from.
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Like, like women just I don't see women harassed in the workplace.
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Like, do they pay you to work or are you a volunteer?
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Like, you just contradict yourself left, right and center.
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Because a job is something that someone does because.
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I've also done media management for other companies.
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Well, no, because I consider real work or important work, work that helps other people.
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I worked with another nonprofit and I did get paid for.
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So I just think I just think in a bit, you know, that's a bit of a bubble, like especially
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You know, I think that the conversations we have.
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But like when it comes to like what most people experience at work, I don't think it's really
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She was like working with her company, her department.
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Her boss was like harassing her, both like making demeaning comments of her as a woman.
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Like, oh, like you wouldn't understand, like literally like straight up, like you wouldn't
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understand this because you're a woman, even though she got had her degree.
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Are there things that women typically don't understand about men or that don't understand
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The context was like, oh, like, I don't want you to work on this project or you should
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I can't remember if it was like something with like bridge measurements or like building
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He repeatedly was not trying to give her like, you know, actual work and was trying to like
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If she goes and gets coffee or if she takes part in the project, does she not get paid
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It doesn't matter because the whole idea is like how old is she?
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So I'll tell you what happens that a lot of these engineering firms.
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So a lot of times less qualified women get jobs that they don't really deserve.
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And what I what I would guess probably happened is she was probably in a job she doesn't she
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Because really, if you're that useful, people use you like people.
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I've only I've only been in male dominated industries pretty much.
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I never had a problem getting getting the men to take me seriously because if you're useful,
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And the thing is, a lot of useless women have jobs they don't deserve and wine.
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I think and ultimately it's down to her what she does with that statement.
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Like this is this is the problem I have with the whole like harassment and things like that
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because it's like, all right, so she got told, you know, what was it?
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You wouldn't understand because you're a woman.
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If a guy said that to me, I'm not going and complaining to HR.
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Whereas something like actual sexual assault, the man literally goes and sexually assaults
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But what she can do is decide whether she's going to cause a big scene over a comment
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I used to work at Amazon before I got this job.
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And then I got into Amazon and then I started speaking with these white people.
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I have to say it like that so that you guys get the picture.
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And the usual comment I always get immediately is, oh wow, your English is so good.
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And I look at these people and I'm like, I literally have a degree in Actuarial Science
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I'm more educated than most of you that are here.
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But then you comment on the fact that my English sounds so good because I'm black.
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That, if that was said to a woman, HR straight.
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She had like multiple, like already like some years of experience while she was in school.
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I mean, if we were going to talk narcissism, women always think we're more qualified than we are.
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She had her degree from like one of the most prestigious universities in America.
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Well, if I haven't met so many dumb people from those universities, I would be convinced.
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And my brothers, my brothers all work in engineering.
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Like, oh no, like a lot of women get these positions that they don't deserve.
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It would make more sense to be like, oh, you know, I don't think you have enough experience
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So the hire, the guy that's hiring, like they have, they have to do it for their diversity
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I say, if you want to be in a man's world, be in it and stop fucking complaining.
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I'm so sick of women going into, into men's workplace.
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So stop fucking whining when you get into a man's job and they make jokes you don't like,
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they start talking to you the way that you don't appreciate, and they don't say it how
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Because all it is is narcissism where you're going around telling everybody how to talk
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and bitching and whining for women like me and other women that have worked in male
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environments and didn't whine and didn't complain and just did the work.
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And if my boss asked me to get coffee because I was a woman, I wouldn't give a shit.
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I would just go get it because I don't bitch and moan about fucking nothing.
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You're essentially saying that, you know, women can never be harassed.
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I said, I said that, I know, I said that a joke is not harassment.
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Him repeatedly not letting you do work, like making you get coffee, like talking down to you.
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Men get into jobs where other men on top literally make them do things they don't want to do.
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No, but they have to do it to build up, to get to where they want to be.
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A lot of times men do things they don't want to do, but they have to do it because that
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How do you feel if somebody said, oh, you know, I don't think you can do this because
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But straight away off the bat, your question is, how do you feel?
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Life is unfair and we should try to make it fair.
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I'm saying that we should all work towards a fair society.
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No, but this is the problem with privileged, often white liberals is they think everything
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And oftentimes they grew up in the most unfair thing because we came from two parent homes
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And that's why I want everybody to live a good life.
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No, but then, and so what they do is they go everywhere and whine and bitch and complain
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