She Got DESTROYED After This CAP
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Summary
In this episode, we have a special guest on the show, Henny. We talk about her past relationship with her ex-boyfriend and how she dealt with the aftermath of their break up. We also discuss if she's a virgin and why people don't believe her.
Transcript
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So when you were 22, you got with him for four years?
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This was the main serious relationship I would consider in my life.
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I'm just going to direct like, okay, how old were you when you met him?
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We had an on and off relationship up until 22, 23, I would say.
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Wait, so 18 to 22, so you dated him for four years?
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So on and off, that means the relationship was shit, but the sex was good?
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Now, to be fair, for me, yeah, I'm just learning it because this is a completely different insight
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because you're coming with a Muslim background, yeah, and you've got these types of insights
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Like, for example, you've been saying, like, you're 26.
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I haven't heard that since I was, like, 15 that someone's, like, a virgin.
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Well, it's, it's, they're surprised because you don't portray yourself like a virgin,
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which is, which is, which is a, which is a great, you know, based on that you're Instagram.
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Are you a born, are you a, I'm not, I'm not saying it's, like, a, well, I don't see.
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They don't, they don't believe you, but I'm saying there's a reason they think you're capping.
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Yeah, there's a reason, there's a reason I think you're capping.
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No, okay, no, you could think I'm capping for my Instagram, but no one has virgin on their
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No, but I'm saying, no, yeah, but usually, like, I've had virgin girls come on the show where nobody
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really, nobody really, like, wait, wait, wait, nobody really, like, pushes back, right?
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But it's not, like, it's just, it's a good thing, right?
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But it's, like, it's, like, unfortunate because I'm, like, no one believes you because of the
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I was, like, so you might, it's, like, it's, like, it loses, like, that's a great thing.
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I should probably archive, I'm going to go home and archive that picture.
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Okay, well, you know what, I have to, I have to, I have to, okay, I'm just going to give
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Do you remember the conversation we had before the cameras were on?
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What do you mean, what conversation did we have?
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No, but do you remember about the situation you told me about that I was giving you advice
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I can't remember exactly, word for word, but what does that have to do with this podcast?
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Because you just told everyone here something that, from that situation.
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Because I wasn't talking about me and myself in that situation.
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I don't want to out you, because I know the camera, maybe you don't want to, you don't
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I don't know what you're talking about, honestly.
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I was talking about a situation with my friend just in general, but I don't know where to,
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Look, don't be rude to me, yeah, because I'm, I'm not trying to be rude, but you're,
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I'm just, you're like trying to say some sort of say that I'm a liar.
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I'm just saying, do you remember the conversation that we had?
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I remember some of the conversations we had, yeah.
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I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
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So, you, you remember all of it then, don't you?
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Okay, you, you know you're saying I remember some of it.
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No, I remember the conversation, but we were talking about a lot of things, yeah.
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Okay, but no, but we specifically were talking about a situation that I was giving you advice
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We were talking about for about 45 minutes, right?
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I don't know why you're getting involved with the name.
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You're literally saying cap this, cap that you don't know me.
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Don't come here with your fake suit and your fake teeth.
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Wait, okay, wait, before, not necessary, but listen.
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Okay, that's fine, but he's saying I'm capping and all this, but he, that's what I'm insulting
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Okay, if you're just going to argue, like, just look.
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I was making a joke about the Fresh and Fit podcast when they pushed the button.
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You know the reason why I thought there could just be a bit of tension right now and a bit of
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disagreement is only because earlier on when you were speaking about the city girl situation
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or the holiday thing that happened, I remember at one point you did also say, oh, and then
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And it's not me saying that you're a liar or anything like that.
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It's just that within this limited time of knowing you here, if someone says a story
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then misses out a story, I can only go off my imagination in it.
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It doesn't necessarily mean that I'm tying you or saying, yo, straight hole, straight
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But you have to remember, all of us, not all of us, but a lot of us are just meeting
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And we're going off of, you see, first impressions are the most important because they're the
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So obviously, in regards to the Instagram, it's not even like I've looked at the Instagram
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It's just that when you say I'm a virgin and then there's quite a few westernized similarities,
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Like, do you see how someone that's a stranger could be like, oh, maybe I don't, I don't
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I apologize for him because I thought he was coming for me and calling me a liar.
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I'm not here to disrespect anyone, but I just felt a bit attacked.
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I know you felt, but it's like you keep having this like visceral react.
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If you want to, you can say, but, but you can't, you can't, you can't insult my guest.
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But you were, you were deflecting as well because it seemed like there was some opposing evidence
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It was just everyone just putting their little two cents in and it wasn't.
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So it was just a bit like, I'm saying what I'm saying.
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You lot should just respect what I'm saying, whether you believe it or not.
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But to some degree though, like, it's, it's like, to some degree, I accept that.
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It's just that to some degree though, it is a, it's a public podcast that we're all just
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Like, it's normal that someone can put an opinion forward, yeah?
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And if I think, yo, boom, I don't really agree with that or I don't, I could be wrong,
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But it's, it's for you to be able to be like, you know what?
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You may not be agreeing with me, but this is a podcast, isn't it?
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But it's like, but people are just going to have something to say against what you've
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I already know that people are going to say this and that about me.
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Don't be doing the back and forth thing with a woman.
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Why is he saying, talking about, I'm going to pass my tall wall today?
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I'm going to, I'm going to ask him questions and I'll ask you questions.
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So, so this conversation, this conversation, so this conversation, you don't have to tell
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me what she said, but it's basically contradicting what she's saying now.
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There are some things that she has said on this podcast, right?
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That does not align with things she, that we discussed, but it's her life.
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I will not disclose anything that she said because we were discussing, I was helping
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through her situation, so I will not disclose anything because if she doesn't want it to
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But that's why I was asking her, do you remember the conversation?
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Because it doesn't, some things are not aligning.
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Because I wasn't even talking about myself in that situation.
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I told you, I told you I'm going to ask you questions in a second.
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I need you, this is, I've warned you, you got to go.
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All right, that's fine, I'll just go because this is just feeling a bit like too much of
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This happens to me all the time where like someone will say something, but I don't want
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But yeah, if you're coming on the podcast, you should know what you're signing up for.
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Look, listen, like everyone's entitled to their privacy, et cetera, but I'm a bit like.
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Like if you've said something that I'm like, I was just, that's what I said.
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Look, I'm just saying, do you remember the conversation we had?
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Well, I mean, it's a little bit disingenuous if you're going to come on to a show and say
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something that's, I mean, that you're directly contradicting something that you've revealed
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Particularly if it's something that you're trying to cast yourself in a good light.
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I don't even understand because I'm like, nobody expected her to be a virgin.
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But you basically did because you said that contradicting.
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That's the most aggressive virgin I've ever met in my life.
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I'm wondering, I didn't say it, but it is what it is.
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Now, once you lay it out, you just accept what comes with it.
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And so I was projecting, and maybe Troy, gentlemen, you guys could agree with me or not.
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I have been in on and off relationships with girls, and the only thing that was keeping
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If it's on and off, it's like you're having sex, but it's not a commitment.
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So then, and I'm open to understanding the truth.
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I just think, I just think sometimes I'm like, oh, my dad, I don't want to see you.
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Um, it was just like, maybe I'd like go through his phone and find something I didn't like.
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You know, I was kind of looking for problems, if I'm being honest.
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And I really would overreact about a lot of stuff.
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What did you find when you went through his phone?
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Um, I don't want to, um, you know, like messages, that sort of thing.
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But I think I kind of overreacted on a lot of them.
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Were you overreacting because you wanted to find a reason to overreact?
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Or was it just because you were triggered emotionally?
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Um, I just think, I just think I must have liked the drama if I kept doing it.
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Because I was thinking, why is it so many girls will go through guys' phones?
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I've had girls, I had a girlfriend, like every single girl that I've ever dated really used
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And there was one girl I was dating and she would like, literally every time she came round,
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she'd go, oh, I've seen something on your phone.
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I was like, I keep like, like, if I, like, I obviously don't care because I keep, we keep
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getting back together and I keep looking for problems.
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Listen, listen, that, I don't think she's a virgin.
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I think she knows people that are going to see her on social media and she's going to
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I, I have never met someone such, with such a visceral reaction.
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you can you can tell I've been the defensive element was too consistent
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for me like I'd see too many times that she say something then someone else is
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like oh I just remember this happened to you crazy but she was like tell me a
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story about like a guy whatever that she had history with and then she was saying
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about how like her sister he then I think she called her off so then he went for her sister
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right and I was like oh wow that's like kind of mad like that's really weird and I was like you
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know I had that happen I was like oh when this happened she was like you know my sister got
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his number I was like wait your sister got his number she was like yeah I was like how did she
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get his number so oh well I gave her gave it to her I was like wait I'm confused so did he go after
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your sister or did your sister go after him because she was like he was like oh well you
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know she was like oh well he said no because her sister said no because you know he had already
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been with her and I was like wait but you gave your sister her number his number right and then
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did she reach out to him she was like okay yeah so she reached out to him yeah I was like okay so
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it wasn't like he you called it off with him then he went after your sister like you ended things
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right she was interested you gave her the number and green lit the situation and then you didn't
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like it after and I was a bit like after asking these questions I was like she painted it kind
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of one way yeah when I actually found out I was like yeah yeah yeah it was completely different
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did you see how I started to sip my tea at one point I just started to I'm just listening you
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know I'm just listening I'm just listening it was more believable if she wasn't like the fact that
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she got so mad because if someone said something about you that's like how did my teeth come to the
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conversation you might find it annoying right so you might be like okay like whatever but if you're
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getting like angry and insulting people I'm just like well yeah but you know from what she described
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earlier I wouldn't be surprised if she said from my childhood of arguing my brothers I'd have to lie
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every now and again from my childhood of arguing above is that after like you know like I like in
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general I think once someone has that defense that's so thick so thick there's nothing you can like you
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can't actually truly trust the story that comes out of their mouth isn't it rude is that it just sort of
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to illustrate what Pearl's been saying though about like not taking that accountability yeah
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yeah yeah yeah you called her out on that too but there's not taking accountability then there's
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lying yeah like there's like in this I'm seeing a mixture of about three toxic things in one no but
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then it's like it was pretty toxic you don't get that you don't get that toxic without getting
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trauma in a relationship too I'm sorry like you cannot it takes two to tangle I won't yeah I will not
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deal with this like narrative that oh it's only him that's toxic you're yeah she just got toxic
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right here well because when you think when you think about it you're supposed to listen to your
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man right so eat like you're supposed like you're not supposed to argue with a pearl can I ask a
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question as well didn't she say that because I don't believe that as well anyone when she was
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speaking about her boyfriend about oh yeah it was three years ago then we find out it's a whole different
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ex now yeah she was like 22 yeah oh 18 I was with him for you I was right it could be it could be a
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thing she was like she could they could have broken up when she was like she said it like in one line
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she didn't mention she didn't say oh that was that X by the way this other X she literally just said oh
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yeah and when I was 23 18 experience what does that mean when women are like miss whatever that
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oh what is that what is that well when they miss their ex no no when they're like the details of the
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timeline they're off like when you're like when you're experienced what does that typically mean
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well but I'm asking like why okay so okay it's very simple okay first okay for here's a couple red
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flags I picked up one number one she's a woman all right based red flag number two that I picked up
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was when I asked her are you a virgin she was like yes it's that face to do what she's looking
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like this and the pause and then number three okay you don't have to sit there and think and remember
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about the truth you know the truth just comes up you know oh yeah it's just that that was that right
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and so when she had to sit back and like remember the truth I was just like oh I don't know and then
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the inconsistencies in the stories and then kit with with the ko punch was like wait a minute
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because what we were talking about after this and she's like fuck you and your actor award
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mother fucker I think what I met her she said my suit was nice on the balcony didn't she like she said
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something she said something about my suit on the balcony she's like yeah the seat was nice and then
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now in your experience like what are they hiding like oh what is the some sort of some sort of
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treachery and deception that she because she women are smart enough to know how they're perceived yeah
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and they're definitely under they're definitely know when the cameras on them or they're being
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interrogated by somebody and they there's an authority over them so she's like oh wait oh I'm
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definitely a virgin yeah and did you notice how as well though she said oh we shouldn't be talking
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about this because I thought you know your second point I thought that the reason she paused was
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because she didn't she felt uncomfortable with revealing like talking about her sexuality like
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that on a public forum but then she then said oh yes I'm a virgin but we should be talking about
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this yeah yeah yeah that's what they'll do they'll bring up a situation and when you ask the
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questions they don't like then they don't want to talk about it but they always bring it up
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they always bring it up first always but then that but then that leads on to like what we're
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talking about with how a lot of men will leave their actions a lot of females will leave their
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emotions I really think that what I saw early on was a gigantic emotional response and a defense
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mechanism along with a lot a lot of emotions mixed in because because I go well and the girl that
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came on that I actually like believe was a virgin you know like she wasn't like how could you just
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because I haven't seen that episode in it so how how was she uh no she was great she was on um
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yeah yeah you believe it right yeah was it the one who wore glasses wore a mask because she didn't
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want to be on show yeah I 100% believe she's a virgin 100% so what was her mannerisms she was just really she was really um I think she was on fresh and fit once too
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who uh yeah she was on fresh and fit once she went super viral on there no she was just a sweetheart
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like she was just so sweet um she wasn't defensive at all and she wouldn't go around like I think she was
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kind of like she didn't even want to say that she was a virgin do you know what I mean like she wasn't
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even trying to put it out there like that and then what like isn't that the ultimate flex so like
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yeah I am a virgin like why would you be hesitant to release that information but I mean all of us
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here we're obviously we're all non-virgins right we're all yeah no I decided you're definitely not
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virgin I decided I'm born again now you're born again she got mad when I said that I was like are
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you a born again virgin she's like don't fucking tell that shit to me yeah I'm a proud born again
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I just bought it off ebay I love the way MLD suit always comes into this though so like
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my suit's coming deep down it's a nice suit I like it it's lauro piano all of my suits are lauro piano
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you know think about it all bro like when a woman's arguing with you they'll try to get you where it
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hurts didn't I say that earlier I said that earlier didn't relate and she's like when you when you're
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logically making the point she's like yeah well that's why you put fake teeth and your suit's sucking
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fucking socks you know oh yeah that's a nice suit he loves it oh I hate your suit now he's got nice teeth
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everybody hate his teeth that like it's just her being not I want to say it's her being a woman it's just her being
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them like I don't want to say feminine boy emotional like liar emotional yeah yeah yeah choose I mean she was
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clearly triggered clearly triggered but and you don't get triggered by you know like lies and she you get triggered by when
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somebody hits the truth if she said that her body count was full I wouldn't care no one else would
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either I think I think I think it's because and I'm not saying this is what she was lying about
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but I think it's because as a Muslim or someone who wants to be perceived as a Muslim and this is a
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public forum right yeah there is a level of appearance and reputation yeah but over a certain age people just
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assume you know what I mean like if you meet a girl that's 25 you're expecting even if she whatever religion
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you're what you're expecting she's a virgin yeah and then another and I wanted to tell her too like for me
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personally like if a girl has snapchat that's a fucking red flag that's just a red flag like what are you
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doing like for me personally like you're just on a platform that deletes all evidence
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like are you kidding me like and then no like come on you're on and then and like you're not even a
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social media is she an influencer she have a big panel she's doing something she did say that she's I'm
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YouTubing and trying to get back into it and like you know she said she said she said she's starting
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up like you know she's got a platform I just I'm to the point I've been doing these shows for so long
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yeah if I tell you something once and you don't listen I'm just I'm not dealing with it
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we got we got five likes left open the chat yeah five likes left open the chat I have super chats
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though I'm trying to pull them up I forgot to pull them up I really want to vote with the chat
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I want chat to ask us and I want to ask chat if they think she's a virgin or not once we open the chat
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I think that whole thing is a contradiction to some degree though like in not even her I'm focused
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on I'm saying being a Muslim okay let's say I'm not saying that she's for fact not a virgin but let's
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say that she's not a virgin and she also has to maintain a certain image to society don't you see
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but don't you see don't you see how that's like isn't that like some type of like is there nothing
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wrong with that like what so I'm in a Muslim society you know and I'm not a virgin I'm I have
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to appear this way but I want to live this way okay should I tell you what it is yeah and then
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yeah yeah you know no no not actually what it what it is I'm saying in regards to that if imagine a
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girl who for example let's say she has a heavily promiscuous past yeah then she meets a guy let's
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say who he doesn't because he doesn't move in the streets like that he's a very good guy let's say
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he's from a Muslim background right he's only ever been with one maybe one or two girls yeah
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right she doesn't have to tell him about her past and if she can avoid him finding out about that
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she's as good as a virgin she's as good as a virgin because he will take her as a wife etc etc
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right and this is something that definitely you know girls have told me of their friends where
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they'd been with over 50 to 100 guys then a guy they met who was a really good guy only been with
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one or two people good guy sound religious background right he he's none the wiser and
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now they're married happily married etc so obviously her disclosing any kind of information
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right to the future man if he stumbled upon this channel he stumbled upon this episode he'd be like
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what the fuck is this yeah no hymen no diamond yeah which is which is which is all fair enough but I
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mean you you've got a sort of thing if you're going on a podcast where you're going to be talking
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about dating and you're you're going to get asked about your one yeah like well I'm putting things
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like like don't say that this is entirely about dating but this is a very common topic on this show
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it's a bit like when straighter right do you know that girl straighter right got thrown off the
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whatever podcast one of destiny's girls uh you know debate girls the one I was on no I think it was a
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different one where she got thrown off because they are asking her if she was a virgin and she
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wouldn't answer the question and then in the end they threw her off the podcast and it's people were
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saying well the thing is like you knew you were coming onto a dating podcast yeah you knew you were probably
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gonna get an all-star yeah it's like it's not asking your body care that's okay virgin or not
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how old was she 26 okay come on 26 I'm 23 yeah no 26 like like the the the whole the I mean all of
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the symptoms she was emitting were not one of a virgin virgin women are like very coy naive like very
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you can sense the purity yeah they're pure they're very they're very nice they haven't been jaded yet
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you know what I mean I was I was sensing the trauma of past relationships yeah watching the express
00:27:48.620
like I I really pay attention to people's body language and so on so forth and within that wasn't
00:27:54.060
just oh how dare you it's wait you're trying to tell everyone that's the energy that I was getting
00:27:59.120
oh wait there yo right now I mean when she was speaking to you that was one but it was more
00:28:03.780
specific with him as well I have this effect on women but it was even it was even when I was like
00:28:08.360
you don't she I was like she's like do you remember our conversation yeah uh parts of it it's like uh it
00:28:13.900
was an hour ago like how did you not why do you remember parts of it but I think this is important
00:28:18.780
for guys to see because it's like like a lot of guys will hear hear this and believe it do you
00:28:24.820
well I'm not talking about I mean I mean like in the church this is where I see it because that's
00:28:34.940
what happens you need to tell me I want to rebrand yeah so they go to the church they rebrand and get
00:28:40.420
them a virgin guy who doesn't know any better yeah that's what I'm saying like not guys with like
00:28:46.260
five minutes of experience can pick this stuff out like guy that dude yeah well listen I I've
00:28:51.160
been with everything as well we've we have all been with a decent amount of women here on this
00:28:55.600
panel and honestly I'm sorry I don't think I don't think that girl's a virgin or she has just been
00:29:01.720
through a shitload of trauma that made her that insufferable no I'm sorry I'm not even gonna go
00:29:06.060
with that second one I don't think she's a virgin like yeah I just don't think she's a virgin
00:29:09.360
Troy if I had to bet no I don't think she is but I'll tell you one thing so what you were saying
00:29:14.980
about like if there's gaps in the story like she had what would that mean yeah my view on that is
00:29:19.560
firstly I don't know for sure what it means but it would be a major major red flag if I was dealing
00:29:24.260
with a woman and she was coming with those inconsistencies of like oh yeah well maybe I was
00:29:28.460
dating him oh no it was when I was 23 you know when I was 18 yeah all of that kind of stuff I think
00:29:32.800
guys will accept more than like the public like I think guys will accept a lot if you're honest
00:29:38.480
yes yes yes beyond like craziness you know like extreme but like guys will accept a lot more than
00:29:46.640
you think you will no listen listen the backbone the backbone of all and and get your dating coach
00:29:52.200
as well for women right the backbone of all relationships romantic friendships business
00:29:58.120
relationships is trust and then the moment you start lying or even if you're dumb and you make a
00:30:06.540
mistake but you start projecting these inconsistencies within your truth that's when you get people
00:30:13.260
start being like wait a minute like what do you mean I think it has a lot to do with your morals as
00:30:19.180
well because you're literally saying oh I'm not going to tell you this part because I think it's bad
00:30:23.720
so if you think it's bad and you think if you tell me this is going to make me be repulsed or make me
00:30:28.880
not want to be with you then you are the embodiment of what I don't want to be exactly yeah but I think
00:30:33.980
I think I think like you said a learning point for guys watching is that if you're dealing with a
00:30:38.240
girl and she's coming in with these like weird inconsistencies or it doesn't quite add up that's
00:30:42.380
definitely yeah yeah yeah yeah and then and then also when the attacks start coming when you start
00:30:49.000
when you start prying for the truth and like well you know what you have your fucking suits fake
00:30:53.240
all you said was stop the cat yeah honestly if she did it in a feminine way we probably would have
00:30:59.660
left her alone if she didn't you know I just really would rather not talk about this like
00:31:03.620
we probably would have just moved on but when you're like da da da da da da da da I'm like get
00:31:07.120
oh I think if Pearl wasn't here she'd say she's being attacked by men yeah like if Pearl wasn't here
00:31:11.800
she'd be like oh I want every man's attacking me right now I'm just like yeah because she mentioned
00:31:15.360
men a few times when she was going back against you guys she goes I'm not gonna be supposed to be like
00:31:18.440
that by a man or did you see when she'd say a few remarks that was to do with oh because you're a
00:31:22.000
man you can't say that listen listen so Pearl we got a thousand likes can we open it open the chat
00:31:26.220
we can't we can I want to ask the chat I want to do the virgin poll to the chat
00:31:31.060
oh no no no okay no no no okay now let's let's let's this forget the virgin poll do you think she was
00:31:37.940
lying or do you think she was telling the truth so if you think she was lying put a one in the chat
00:31:46.520
and you think she was telling the truth put a two in the chat that that's what I wanted I just
00:31:51.660
want to see what the people have to say every other number if you think she was lying
00:31:55.840
I want to see how many other numbers go against one
00:32:05.220
oh no I even say I even say this to like my female clients you know in the sense of like
00:32:16.280
don't you don't lie about your past because if you're with a guy and chances are he's going to be your
00:32:23.640
level of intelligence or higher because most women that's what they like to choose yeah there's going
00:32:28.920
to be a point throughout the relationship right if he's with his wherewithal which he likely is in
00:32:33.340
comparison to you where you're going to say something that's inconsistent to what you've
00:32:37.100
told him previously right and when that happens he's going to remember you've already that plants
00:32:42.920
the seed for distrust because then when he starts inquire he'll be like hold on you've told me two
00:32:47.400
different stories yeah bro you can't you and I you and I are going to be best friends let me tell you
00:32:53.720
why let me tell you what the last girl I dated I dated this girl for two years okay and when I first met
00:33:01.200
her she lied about her past and she lied about her body count she lied about her purity
00:33:08.540
and she tricked me and when I because you know what
00:33:12.480
the only thing that keeps lies going are more lies
00:33:17.440
boom right and eventually the truth came out and the truth came out
00:33:22.340
and bro when I found out the truth I was so disgusted and I wasn't disgusted with the fact that she did what
00:33:29.320
she did in the past but I was so disgusted that she thought I was dumb enough to believe her
00:33:34.700
fucking lies and and and and the insult of my intelligence like how dare you bitch how dare you
00:33:41.600
fucking think I am as dumb as you to think you could just lie you know and trick me and he's right
00:33:47.400
he's a thousand percent right and that goes for men too anybody don't enter a relationship and start
00:33:53.880
lying yeah okay it's weak be a thou if you're a scumbag just own it be scumbag just like all right
00:34:00.620
I'm just you know I'm a scumbag you know but the when you the thing is when you lie and a lot of
00:34:06.320
girls are ashamed of their past and it is what it is but men will respect you a thousand percent
00:34:12.420
times when you're like listen I don't want to talk about it but listen I'm just gonna tell you I have
00:34:16.900
been through some shit it isn't what it is I just want you to love me for me at least from that moment
00:34:22.340
forward I know what I'm dealing with yes and then I know how to move forward appropriately because I
00:34:27.800
started dating or I'm not really dating I'm seeing this other girl she's beautiful right and our first
00:34:33.080
date she was like well you know shit happened and you know I kind of went through a hoe phase I was
00:34:38.680
like okay cool I respect the fact that you're telling me that you went through this hoe phase yeah and
00:34:45.020
now when I deal with her I'm like okay like she may be hoe and she may not be but at least I know
00:34:50.820
moving forward like that x factor of hoe phase is there for me to calculate into the entire
00:34:57.780
situation yeah but what if she would have been like no virgin girl and blah blah blah blah blah and
00:35:03.720
then you march down the path of relations you waste your time and then and then you find out later
00:35:08.100
that oh wait you've lied to me and you actually have like a fucking 50 plus body count you the guy
00:35:15.400
really is disgusted because he's disgusted from the from the fact that you manipulated me you lied
00:35:21.680
to me because I you know just be real you know what I mean I have a question would you have dated
00:35:26.820
her still if if she was honest from the jump if she was honest from the jump um she was she was a
00:35:33.040
great girl in that sense but it was just the the the fact that I found out like a year later right
00:35:39.200
no that's what I'm asking like would she would she have gotten a better outcome if she didn't lie
00:35:43.020
well the thing is this I was in love with a fake person and then when I found out the truth I started
00:35:50.060
to like fall out of love with her because I started seeing the real her and the biggest thing that made
00:35:54.480
me upset was that I just felt so gross that she she lied and she tricked me and I just I feel like I
00:36:03.220
fell in love with a fake person so that built up a lot of resentment you know what I mean what would you say is
00:36:09.100
worse a woman that says her body counts 15 and lies about it or a woman that says her body counts 20
00:36:16.840
and tells you the truth truth every time oh the truth yeah exactly the kid saying truth every time
00:36:20.920
because you know I think you know you know I think it's a factor yeah I think in regards to women
00:36:24.500
and men yeah we can all women can say oh I want a guy that's you know six six figures uh strong
00:36:30.600
masculine da da da da guys can be like I want a woman that's feminine da da da but I do believe that
00:36:34.680
some areas you can increase the percentage enough yeah that some other areas don't
00:36:38.980
become as important well you know let's say but yeah for example yeah I think if a woman's
00:36:43.160
femininity yeah and a woman's honesty and a woman's like roles of how to be a good wife or a good
00:36:48.640
girlfriend or some sort of are just up the charts all the time I really think there's plenty of guys
00:36:53.960
not most but plenty of guys that will be like you know what yeah she is there about how it's that
00:36:59.220
but you know I do love it all like yeah makes me feel like that's like a man I'll add on to that I
00:37:04.280
recently met a girl in Miami when I was on one of these podcasts and we had just gotten into the
00:37:10.340
conversation talking about exes and past because she knows what I do for a living and so we talked
00:37:15.260
about whatever and she was very open with me and like you know it was like some people would consider
00:37:20.560
a high body count but she was also stunningly gorgeous honest with me successful like successful
00:37:28.760
I don't care about a woman's money and shit but the fact that she was successful lets me know that she has a
00:37:32.880
fucking brain yeah and she was physically fit and she was just such I think she's so gorgeous and
00:37:38.320
like a great communicator I was just like damn I like fucking like this girl you know what I mean
00:37:44.200
like you can overlook that's it but the thing is the number one thing guys look for in a relationship
00:37:48.880
I think women look for this too is somebody you can trust yeah somebody you can call if there's
00:37:54.760
trouble out there and then if you if the thing is this because it's not about sex it's not about
00:38:00.160
luck it's not about money it's all that it's about damn like if the shit goes down yeah your woman is
00:38:05.680
number two in your life like you like she like your your business your cause your duties number one
00:38:10.200
and and number two is the woman like can I rely on you can I call you three o'clock in the morning
00:38:15.340
if I've been falsely accused and I need bail money you know what I mean you know what John as well like
00:38:20.380
I think tell me what you think but you know you said about when when the girls lied to you about her
00:38:26.260
sexual past that left that level of disgust right yeah I think a massive part of that is because a
00:38:31.860
man's worst fear of raising kids that aren't his yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah yeah worst fear
00:38:38.120
right raising a child that isn't his so and oh at the time that that would happen is when uh is when
00:38:44.180
a woman lies about her sexual past because she says you're the father and you're actually not the
00:38:48.020
father no that's the that's disgusting that's the psychological underpinning isn't it yeah yeah I think
00:38:52.880
that's one of the elements of it though I think there's there's like there's that as well that yo
00:38:57.060
father but I think there's that there's just that I have the element of wait there so let me get it
00:39:03.300
straight yeah you with your chest were willing to say oh wait there he hasn't clocked on yet
00:39:08.740
yeah so how long can I play this game for because you have to remember that there's a difference between
00:39:14.820
if a woman lies to you for two seconds like let's say what happened there that's okay she lied to us
00:39:18.400
but we're not gonna feel like idiots but then let's say that we go three years it's not just
00:39:22.800
about if she tells you the truth at the end of the fears you have to think what else did she lie
00:39:26.100
about what else is there and then it becomes a game she sustained that character throughout the
00:39:30.180
three years it becomes a thing of like it becomes a thing of like your own imagination is the
00:39:34.720
measurement because at least okay cool let's say you say to someone this girl's got a body count of
00:39:38.660
30 a lot quite a lot of people could be like oh wait there that's too high um others could be like
00:39:42.940
you know what yeah that's fine for me I'm calm with that number yeah but when it's a game of
00:39:45.960
imagination yes when you can't that's now a thing of my number is 70 so I'm thinking it could be 70
00:39:52.300
no and then that's that's what happened to me so then in addition to that after I found out the
00:39:57.620
truth through a number of inconsistencies because I'm fucking smart like I made a multi-million dollar
00:40:04.180
business like I'm not lying from a hoe I could figure that shit out yeah like so you know I
00:40:10.280
how did it take a year of that dude I'm not gonna lie because I was too busy I was just too busy
00:40:16.480
that was the time I was dating three girls and then like you can't even monitor no actually the
00:40:22.080
reality I was dating five but I was only taking three seriously but you know that that that and
00:40:31.000
but no I want to add on to that real quick it's just that when when you spot that one lie
00:40:39.740
then the relationship is tainted because she's like she's like oh you know I gotta work like
00:40:44.000
she's sucking some dick you know even though she does have to work late and it just fucks with your
00:40:48.840
head but on both sides too for the men do men don't mention lie women should lie because it fucks with
00:40:54.240
your head and you're just like you can't even focus on the person in front of you you can't focus on
00:40:58.780
your duty your your business your fitness whatever the case may be you're even in the
00:41:03.000
relationship with her because she's gonna start to say we have to remember that a woman's emotions
00:41:07.360
play vital factors towards the the overall the reality yes overall the relationship so it's like
00:41:13.640
if she's seeing that you're disgusted in her yeah that's gonna play a role yes she's seeing that oh wait
00:41:18.980
you don't want to touch me no more you don't want to hold me you don't want to be intimate with me in
00:41:22.840
any type of way that now is gonna affect what she now does and you see some females yeah out of
00:41:27.520
insecurity could just be like okay I need to feel love right now let me go to my ex yeah then it's
00:41:31.620
like I need to go let me let me do and most women cheat with an axe yeah so that's that's I'd like
00:41:37.760
is there is that is that could I just make one other thing though is there is there the possibility
00:41:42.660
that like it's more about not lying than it is about how much you reveal yes because it's not like
00:41:49.800
we're giving the impression like on the first or second day you're gonna be sitting down going right
00:41:53.080
well my body count is yeah like we I wouldn't expect her and I wouldn't ask exactly yeah yeah
00:41:59.400
I wouldn't even know what is your what is your number what's your body like I wouldn't get into
00:42:03.460
that conversation however what you want to avoid is somebody who's actively lying about it you know
00:42:08.340
if you meet a woman and she's like oh yeah you know because the trust is damaged the trust like
00:42:13.880
the backbone of all relationships friendships business love it is all trust and the number one way to
00:42:21.280
damage trust is with a lie and you know you don't you know when you said revealing yeah
00:42:26.100
like for example I feel like we're all the same where we're on the face first date we'd never say
00:42:30.820
to a woman first thing watch your body count yeah I don't think that's a thing that would all say
00:42:34.120
however in regards to revealing thing we are we're all intelligent males females we're all intelligent
00:42:39.400
creatures I'm gonna be able to see what you're not saying I'm gonna be able to see what you're not
00:42:45.360
putting forward I'm gonna be able to see when you're kind of skipping around we were able to do with
00:42:48.600
her within the space of two minutes yeah so it's like in a relationship over the space of a year
00:42:52.740
I'm gonna like why didn't you tell me that you you did do a gangbang why did you tell me that oh
00:43:01.680
wait you're still friends with your ex and I had to find out because I saw a notification pop on your
00:43:05.460
phone why did like why did you tell me about the Bukki party a woman not saying something is as bad as
00:43:13.260
them saying something if it is a lie I'm trying it's good live by admission isn't it I'm trying
00:43:18.360
to find the stat but it's like I think 50% of men will ask your body count well I just don't think
00:43:26.440
you should ask I personally wouldn't yeah I don't know it's just now I'm saying we all want to know that don't
00:43:31.540
it I don't find the stat no don't get to say do we all want to know we're not all one I would
00:43:38.980
want to ask I don't ask well you know you don't want to say well kid wanted to ask a question to the
00:43:43.460
panel what well it kind of shit is but I wanted to ask what do you think is something men lie about
00:43:48.560
in the beginning what's the equivalent that men would like I'll tell you a story I'll tell you a
00:43:56.180
story of a guy that came on the show you know he was talking about his business right and then he's
00:44:04.160
like saying he makes six figures from it and like grabs like oh cool like I just I'm just like I just
00:44:09.860
believe people but I have a producers that maybe since cat more than more than I do yeah we looked up
00:44:16.280
the business it was dissolved I would say I would say I think the majority guys lot well they I think
00:44:25.760
they insinuate about sexual performance like they don't they're like oh girl I'm gonna fuck the shit
00:44:35.400
out of you I'm not like that but I think they like guess it optimally they guess it about I don't know
00:44:40.160
what because I don't like I'm so successful now like I'm so terrified when I go on these new days
00:44:45.740
yeah I lead with all my shitty points yeah I'm like I have anger problems
00:44:49.500
I should do that I'll be like I'll go through your phone
00:44:55.440
you know I think men lie about like most commonly in society though I think most men lie about their
00:45:04.160
intention because we're talking about first name yeah yeah yeah we're not talking about relationship
00:45:09.220
that's good that's good first intention the reason why is because all of us as men let us be honest
00:45:15.140
anytime you see a female you're attracted to that you would you want you want to have sex with her
00:45:20.920
now don't get twisted you can have you can have sexual restraint or you could be in a relationship
00:45:24.700
where you don't even desire anyone else anymore but I'm talking about you first see the woman that
00:45:28.380
you actually like there's going to be a sexual arousal to some degree like to some degree at least
00:45:33.460
you may also be stimulated by her mental her mentality so and so forth but there's a oh
00:45:37.960
if she said would you like to have sex right now and she's the girl that I like would I say no to
00:45:43.220
that not a lot of men would say no but the thing is that if you go to a first date and a woman says
00:45:48.460
what is your intention with me now you three are dating coaches right you've gone you've been on many
00:45:54.140
many many many many dates are you telling me that every constitution because I need this fifth
00:45:59.680
so you guys you guys have been on many many dates yeah so you're telling me that let's say you've
00:46:06.080
dated 50 between all of you guys you're telling me each time you wanted to know about her mentality
00:46:11.120
you wanted to know about can't be I'll be honest and you guys tell me that straight away I'll be honest
00:46:16.020
with you I used to be if a girl was attractive if she was hot yeah like yeah I would but hold on
00:46:21.440
but I think when you've got when you've had enough experience with women to a certain degree
00:46:27.740
you realize even if it's just a casual thing you are still spending time with them yeah you're still
00:46:32.660
investing time with them yeah so even if I'm even if I was only in a place where I'm looking for
00:46:37.060
something casual it's still important to me to like who she is as a person the point I'm making
00:46:41.960
though is that it's not that I'm coming from a casual perspective I'm coming from a first intrusive
00:46:46.260
thought of when you see them the first thought of because you have to remember yeah from a prime
00:46:50.160
you don't know if you want something serious because you don't know exactly but you're still
00:46:54.480
attracted so because you're still attracted you're going to have the thing that's great that's that's
00:46:59.160
the fuel that's making you gravitate towards what's that what's the question I'm saying yeah that like
00:47:05.040
what's the most common thing that guys will lie about on their first date now the intention could
00:47:09.000
be I think it is intention I think I got a guy saying right she's like oh yeah I'm looking for a
00:47:13.680
relationship okay cool men that go on these these these these pornography sites these these talk to
00:47:22.120
these women so on so forth you really think that they're not going it with that with a sexual not
00:47:26.220
motive but a sexual fueling beforehand before they even get to that scenario can I respond to that I
00:47:31.740
think that I think there's two points here yeah I think one I think you're right I mean I think they
00:47:35.820
do lie or or rather put passed by a mission yeah about intention quite other but but having having
00:47:42.240
said that I I never get into the conversation on the first day and I would advise any yeah I agree as
00:47:47.400
well not to get into the conversation oh so what are your intention yeah it's too transactional it's
00:47:55.320
it's a very normie way of going about yeah I was offered marriage recently on a first date
00:48:01.080
yeah buddy yeah I wouldn't recommend guys do that was he Muslim no no no she's touching the hair you
00:48:13.380
know yeah I just I thought it was gonna be like a normal date and then it was yeah he's he was like
00:48:22.980
ready to get married I was like oh wow he's seen your uh he's seen your uh bread dating skills
00:48:27.300
no you know what's weird um it's like weird going on a date with someone that knows everything about
00:48:35.540
you oh yeah it's not it's not even okay it wouldn't even be bad if it could be equal
00:48:40.920
we use youtube fan no yeah no no because imagine imagine okay if you go on a date with me but I can
00:48:46.780
also look up everything about you online then it's equal yeah it's equal we're on equal playing
00:48:51.920
field but when I'm like telling a story and I'm like oh he's heard this on my podcast
00:48:56.240
what you say intention but okay Troy what do you think yeah no I think he's right I think
00:49:07.480
okay what do you think yeah intention for sure yeah I would say sexual performance slash intention
00:49:12.840
but after you said intention I was like no no no because I've lied about intention plenty of times
00:49:17.020
I think it's I think it's yeah you know you're 100% but it's about how it's conveyed because
00:49:22.060
what I tend to like finesse it a bit on these days so I'm not sitting down on the day and I'm not saying
00:49:26.580
so tell me what are your you know where do you see yourself in five years time and all of that because
00:49:31.540
that is a bit normie it's a little bit it's it's not very sexy you know you want to keep your cards
00:49:36.060
close to your chest you want to hold some things back and stuff however can I say hand on heart that I
00:49:40.800
haven't been into date situations and given the impression that maybe I'm looking for a little bit more
00:49:45.340
than perhaps I am you know I can't I can't say that hand on heart