JustPearlyThings - August 15, 2023


She Got EDUCATED On This Fallacy


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In this episode we discuss the differences between men and women in society and in society in general. Is there a difference between the two? Are they equal? Is society better or worse than before? What is the best way to run a society?

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00:00:00.000 And I think I honestly think like women have subtle misandry that we just don't see every day. 1.00
00:00:05.140 And, you know, I'm not even going to say I've never said anything like anything like that.
00:00:08.180 You know, like we hear like men are trash. 0.95
00:00:10.060 Men are the problem. 1.00
00:00:10.800 But if a guy goes on social media and says women are whores, they're they're looked down upon. 0.95
00:00:15.440 Even if that's more true when you think about it, because women 100 years ago, only 15 percent admitted to having premarital sex.
00:00:24.140 Yeah. To now where what percent of women are virgins on their wedding night. 1.00
00:00:28.220 So if you look at the difference in women, like women are that's kind of just a fact in general. 0.89
00:00:32.160 Right. But men are shamed for saying that.
00:00:34.980 But women can say men are trash. Men are the problem. Men are this. Men are that. 0.93
00:00:38.880 Yeah. Short end is sick again.
00:00:40.220 When you can't, you can't. It's just society.
00:00:42.500 And then men can't really you're getting bashed left, right and center.
00:00:45.460 Yeah. It's true, though.
00:00:47.980 Women do run a lot of, you know, the society and the set up. 1.00
00:00:52.640 But maybe that is the right thing.
00:00:55.080 Maybe that is the best way. I don't know.
00:00:56.540 We never know, isn't it? Is men meant to have power over women? 0.90
00:00:59.140 I don't think it's the best way. I think men meant to have power over women.
00:01:01.440 I don't think it's the best way. I think men meant to have power over women.
00:01:01.760 Why would you say that?
00:01:02.540 I just feel like, I don't know, like, I think that's in my head, that's how it's been planted.
00:01:07.780 Years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:08.720 Years ago, yeah.
00:01:09.660 You know why? Because it's natural.
00:01:12.200 Again, what's happened from my viewpoint in society, things are veered away from just naturalness.
00:01:19.220 You know what I'm saying? And just in general, people veered away from nature.
00:01:23.200 Nature teaches a lot of people, like, how things are.
00:01:26.360 And just natural. Naturally, men are leaders. Naturally, men are stronger than women. 1.00
00:01:29.660 I think equal, but different.
00:01:32.420 But in life, nothing's equal.
00:01:34.760 I don't think it's going to be equal, though.
00:01:36.060 No one's equal in life.
00:01:37.900 Nothing's actually equal.
00:01:38.960 And again, it's accepting that.
00:01:40.620 You know what I'm saying? It's accepting that.
00:01:41.640 I really disagree. I do think men and women are completely equal.
00:01:45.060 It's just there's different qualities.
00:01:46.840 In what way? How would you say they're equal?
00:01:49.160 Different qualities just...
00:01:50.840 Equal is equal. Equals 50-50. 0.98
00:01:53.040 So how would you say equal?
00:01:54.120 But what do you mean by equal? Equal in what? In running society?
00:01:56.740 Equal just in, like, respect for each other and, like, what we bring, what we all bring to the table.
00:02:03.380 It's just different.
00:02:04.080 So I would disagree when it comes to running society.
00:02:06.520 So in a society, we need men more, like, I'm not talking about, like,
00:02:10.960 women need to raise the family, right? 1.00
00:02:12.800 But you also need men.
00:02:14.080 So we've seen what happens when fathers aren't in the home.
00:02:16.500 So men and women are equally, I think, needed in the family.
00:02:19.800 But when it comes to running a society, most of the jobs that run the infrastructure of society,
00:02:25.120 so, like, the policemen, the power lines, like, all the things,
00:02:29.100 women's jobs could go away tomorrow, society would still run. 1.00
00:02:32.680 Because, you know, what women are construction workers? 1.00
00:02:35.300 If women are in construction, they're, like, in management or some bullshit job that we don't really need. 1.00
00:02:40.280 Let's just be honest.
00:02:41.880 Like, where men are the ones doing the hard, like, the hard jobs, the street sweepers, the sewage,
00:02:47.560 like, all the stuff that, like, if went out tomorrow, society would not run.
00:02:52.920 Yeah.
00:02:53.380 I think about, even in the army, think about when shit is a fan, like,
00:02:56.620 you're not going to send a woman on the front line to go fight for your country. 1.00
00:02:59.360 A man's going to be on the front line fighting, defending for his country.
00:03:02.140 Do you know what I'm saying, dude?
00:03:03.260 So, yeah.
00:03:03.640 That's the thing, like, there's nothing wrong with accepting that men and women are not equal.
00:03:10.240 And that's just it.
00:03:11.560 I would say more not the same, but they're equal.
00:03:14.440 But not the same is the same.
00:03:16.000 It's the same.
00:03:16.520 Equal and not the same.
00:03:17.800 I mean, equal as in, like, they're both, like, equally as worthy and, like, have equally important parts,
00:03:22.200 but they're just different.
00:03:23.640 Well, I mean...
00:03:24.920 See what you're saying.
00:03:25.940 But I guess important in what?
00:03:28.020 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:03:28.700 Because what Perly just said, that example is a good example.
00:03:32.180 Like, if women... 1.00
00:03:33.860 I never thought of that before, but it's a very good example.
00:03:37.120 So, they're not really equal in that respect there.
00:03:40.900 I mean, and I don't know where you could say that they are equal.
00:03:43.720 But it'd be a good question to ask.
00:03:45.720 I would say equal but different.
00:03:47.360 Like, obviously...
00:03:48.260 Difference is different and equal is equal.
00:03:50.100 But I would say definitely equal.
00:03:51.980 I mean, I would...
00:03:52.740 But how?
00:03:53.500 I mean, women bring men in... 1.00
00:03:55.500 Women bring people into the world. 1.00
00:03:57.120 Like, we give birth to people.
00:03:58.080 Men don't do that. 0.99
00:03:58.960 So, they were not equal in that respect.
00:04:00.320 Because men can't... 0.75
00:04:00.940 But when it comes to reproduction...
00:04:02.940 I think we mean the same thing.
00:04:05.040 But we're getting a bit confused.
00:04:06.740 But I think the difference is, like, we're...
00:04:09.060 In running a family...
00:04:10.100 Like, in having a kid, like, women give birth, yes, but men have to impregnate her. 1.00
00:04:13.980 And when you think about it, like, women can only give birth to, like, one kid at a time. 0.97
00:04:18.420 Or men can impregnate, like, multiple women at a time.
00:04:20.740 So, when you think about it, like, in society...
00:04:23.900 No, no, I'm not going to die on that hill.
00:04:25.940 Never mind.
00:04:26.360 But, you see, when it comes to, like, the way society runs, like, women need men more 1.00
00:04:32.480 than men need women. 0.78
00:04:34.460 We need more of you talking.
00:04:36.440 100%.
00:04:36.840 You know, no one's there, but, like, we don't hear that enough.
00:04:39.380 Yeah.
00:04:39.760 Not in the UK.
00:04:40.420 Not in the UK, you get me?
00:04:41.920 No, but the question is why.
00:04:43.500 Like, why don't we hear that enough?
00:04:44.940 And the thing is, like, I genuinely think society's been brainwashed to, like, think that
00:04:49.280 we don't need men.
00:04:50.160 Like, why do we even have IVF?
00:04:51.760 Why is that even an option?
00:04:53.400 Like, why are women going to, like, to volunteer to be a single mother? 1.00
00:04:58.700 Yeah.
00:04:59.040 That's immense.
00:04:59.940 Think about it.
00:05:00.280 They're paying to be a single mother if they don't find a guy in time. 1.00
00:05:03.040 That's true.
00:05:03.460 Yeah.
00:05:03.720 But can't IVF be for medical reasons?
00:05:07.240 Yeah, no, it can.
00:05:08.900 But even...
00:05:09.640 Is that the greatest idea?
00:05:11.360 Exactly.
00:05:11.980 Yeah, probably not.
00:05:12.680 Yeah.
00:05:12.960 And it fails most of the time.
00:05:14.960 That's the other thing is, like, again, we don't really talk about the real numbers when
00:05:18.720 it comes to fertility.
00:05:19.800 Like, 90% of your eggs are gone by 30.
00:05:22.020 So if you don't have a kid by 30, like, you have a leftist than...
00:05:24.260 If you're not in a relationship, you have a less than 50% chance of having a kid.
00:05:27.340 So you're more likely to not have a kid than have one.
00:05:29.540 But we tell women, oh, wait, wait, wait, you're fine. 0.99
00:05:32.440 When it's, like, really, I mean, you're on crunch time.
00:05:35.400 Yeah.
00:05:36.180 And that's right.
00:05:36.960 The IVF and stuff, and it goes back to this thing I was saying, it's not actually natural.
00:05:42.120 Yeah, yeah, it's not.
00:05:42.960 I think, naturally, if, let's just say, a woman couldn't have a child, that's natural. 1.00
00:05:48.400 That's actually how it happened and what it was.
00:05:50.460 That's actually natural, and you just have to live with it.
00:05:53.320 Again, it's not going to be the nicest scenario, but then again, maybe you've got your nephews
00:05:56.440 or your nieces and stuff like that.
00:05:57.860 So you can still be, like they say, it takes a village to grow a child.
00:06:01.660 So you still put your input in, but it just so happens that naturally it wasn't for you.
00:06:09.720 That's serious, though.
00:06:11.000 Very hard.
00:06:11.820 Again, these things seem harsh, but they're not really.
00:06:17.200 Again, when you just look at it, it's natural.
00:06:18.620 It's just life.
00:06:19.200 It's true.
00:06:20.200 It is what it is.
00:06:21.100 But again, when you understand that and accept it, then you-
00:06:24.280 It's just sad, isn't it?
00:06:25.700 That's emotional.
00:06:26.780 No.
00:06:27.040 It's not really even sad.
00:06:28.340 I don't think it's sad.
00:06:29.400 No, it ain't.
00:06:29.980 But you know what?
00:06:31.480 Why is it sad?
00:06:32.400 If anything, we live in a more free society than ever as women.
00:06:37.360 No, I get you, though.
00:06:38.200 Yeah.
00:06:38.640 It is.
00:06:39.160 Let me just save the situation.
00:06:43.960 I get you 100%.
00:06:45.880 That is sad.
00:06:46.420 If you're a woman and you want to have children.
00:06:49.520 But that's what I said, like I said, it's perception.
00:06:52.120 Yeah.
00:06:52.460 It's because you've got your nieces, you've got your nephews.
00:06:55.080 You've still got children.
00:06:56.760 Yeah.
00:06:57.060 I grew up a lot with my aunts, you know what I'm saying?
00:07:00.680 And funnily enough, it's actually weird.
00:07:02.000 I'm not reading for it, but three aunts I've grown up with, they haven't got children.
00:07:07.720 But I'm like their child.
00:07:08.980 It's like I've almost got four moms, you know what I'm saying?
00:07:11.140 Because they are like-
00:07:12.020 Okay.
00:07:12.580 Yeah.
00:07:12.900 But we're going to have an unprecedented amount of men and women that wanted children that 0.99
00:07:20.120 will not have them.
00:07:20.980 They're predicting 50%, like 50% of women that hit 30 are single and childless.
00:07:25.640 So remember, geriatric pregnancy starts at 35.
00:07:27.660 I wonder if adoption will go up.
00:07:29.160 What?
00:07:29.420 Because of that adoption and or like bringing in from other countries as well will go up.
00:07:35.740 Probably, maybe, probably.
00:07:37.720 But again, you know, I've been on both sides of adoption where like my mom gave up a kid
00:07:42.200 for adoption with my dad because my mom and dad got pregnant when my mom was a teenager.
00:07:46.160 She was like young.
00:07:47.080 And so they gave that kid up and then we also adopted three teenagers.
00:07:49.960 Oh, wow.
00:07:50.520 Yeah, yeah.
00:07:50.880 But that's, it's not good for a kid.
00:07:52.660 Like there's a lot of problems that come with it.
00:07:54.600 Like even if you get them young, remember like most kids develop by the age of three.
00:07:59.100 So it's, and, and the thing is if you don't, cause the issue with adoption, it's actually
00:08:04.340 not hard to get a kid adopted.
00:08:05.880 Like they always talk about these kids in the foster care system.
00:08:08.340 The issue is the mother's weight or the mothers are on drugs or something. 1.00
00:08:11.960 So they take the kids away later and the kids are too messed up.
00:08:15.420 So, and like, who wants like a four year old that's been with a crackhead for four years?
00:08:19.200 Yeah, not natural.
00:08:20.400 Yeah.
00:08:20.760 Same kind of thing.
00:08:22.140 Yeah.
00:08:22.680 Same kind of thing.
00:08:23.880 When you chase things back, that's how I always go through life.
00:08:27.660 Just thinking natural.
00:08:28.780 What would be the natural way to go around this?
00:08:30.880 What is the natural?
00:08:31.560 How is this done?
00:08:32.660 And then if you kind of stick to that kind of line, you don't go too far along.
00:08:36.300 But it's interesting.
00:08:37.400 Cause like, again, this unprecedented like level, this unprecedented number of people
00:08:42.320 that want children that will not have them is happening because women are in control of 1.00
00:08:46.500 reproduction.
00:08:47.360 I didn't know about the age, um, like when you're 30, you got eggs.
00:08:52.860 I didn't know that.
00:08:53.440 And I actually wanted to wait until I was 30 to have kids.
00:08:56.840 But now that I know this, like you're saying people can't have kids because they find out
00:09:01.320 too late.
00:09:01.780 I literally wouldn't have known if you didn't tell me.
00:09:03.480 Yeah.
00:09:04.000 And the, and the thing is the, um, the women that do IVF, like it mostly fails. 1.00
00:09:08.940 Yeah.
00:09:09.120 That's the other thing they don't say.
00:09:10.080 The majority of women do it, that do it fail. 1.00
00:09:12.080 Yeah.
00:09:12.180 The chances are really bad.
00:09:13.580 Yeah.
00:09:14.060 The good thing is when now you're thinking about this, you have to tell your partner,
00:09:18.280 you know what I'm saying?
00:09:18.960 Including, cause again, this is where a lot of the, it goes wrong because women are in 1.00
00:09:22.560 control of this.
00:09:23.400 Now you think, oh, well, I want to have a baby.
00:09:25.300 But you know what I'm saying?
00:09:26.100 And this is where a lot of mixups happen in relationships.
00:09:30.000 Now you want to do it earlier.
00:09:31.000 Yeah.
00:09:31.560 Women want to have the kids. 1.00
00:09:32.480 Man doesn't necessarily want to have the kid.
00:09:34.560 They've had sex, you know what I'm saying? 0.98
00:09:36.440 Without a condom or whatever.
00:09:38.160 She's got pregnant. 1.00
00:09:39.320 He's got no choice in saying whether he, even if, again, it goes both ways.
00:09:43.620 Let's just say he didn't want a child.
00:09:45.660 You know what I'm saying?
00:09:45.880 He can't, there's nothing he can do, basically.
00:09:48.320 And let's just say he does want the child and the woman doesn't want the child. 0.97
00:09:50.660 Again, there's nothing he can do.
00:09:51.680 So again, you get the short end of the stick.
00:09:53.680 It's shabby.
00:09:54.660 So this is where communication is going to play a really big part.
00:09:58.920 But like you said, life ain't fair.
00:10:00.080 Yeah, you said it, life ain't fair.
00:10:01.680 I'm going to what you said.
00:10:03.300 No, exactly.
00:10:03.960 Now we'll get into the crux of it.
00:10:06.800 Life isn't fair.
00:10:07.560 So that's why you have to be in control of your emotions.
00:10:09.420 Because if a woman now has a baby and it's life not fair, you said, now what you're going 0.99
00:10:13.960 to do?
00:10:14.140 You're going to jump up a bridge.
00:10:14.960 You're going to start crying.
00:10:15.940 You're going to, what are you going to do?
00:10:17.080 You have to hold it.
00:10:18.140 You understand?
00:10:18.460 And control your emotions and do what the right thing's going to be.
00:10:21.460 He is dead.
00:10:21.920 Thank you.
00:10:22.040 Thank you.