JustPearlyThings - March 27, 2023


She Kept trying to Deny Her Biology

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legacy
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Hannah Pearl Davis
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Khan
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In this episode, we discuss abortion, birth control, and whether or not it s better than birth control for fertility. We also discuss the fact that women should be responsible for their own kids and how they should feel about it.

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00:00:00.000 Do you think that abortions, like, reduce the chance of you having children in the future?
00:00:04.240 It does, though.
00:00:04.680 Is that a fact?
00:00:05.180 In some cases, it does.
00:00:06.940 Does it depend on the type of abortion or just abortions in general?
00:00:10.180 In general.
00:00:11.240 I don't know that.
00:00:13.100 I'm not going to pretend to be, like, a science, like, super...
00:00:15.800 I'm just curious.
00:00:17.080 Maybe it's a tie for an alpha on you.
00:00:18.540 This is...
00:00:19.000 Okay, okay.
00:00:19.460 When I was a kid, when I was a kid, everyone was getting on birth control, right?
00:00:23.180 And logically, I was thinking, I just feel like if you stop your fertility, that's bad.
00:00:27.800 Same.
00:00:28.240 Like, I was never really, like, I was on it a little bit, but never really.
00:00:34.460 And I remember all my friends were talking to me, like, when I said this to them at, like,
00:00:38.120 16, 17, whatever, they all were looking at me like I was nuts. 0.96
00:00:41.860 And then 10 years later, it fucks with your hormones, it does all this stuff. 0.92
00:00:45.560 So I just think logically, like... 0.94
00:00:47.460 To be honest...
00:00:48.460 I don't know if you're taking something that, like, kills the child that's growing in you.
00:00:53.100 I just can't imagine that's great.
00:00:54.420 I have mixed feelings about that, because there's so many types of contraception in general.
00:00:59.760 And birth control, like, is in the pill every day, is honestly very chaotic in terms of how good it is for you in terms of your fertility in the future.
00:01:08.980 But I feel like it's...
00:01:10.760 There's so many, like, advances in science in general that we don't know how it's going to, like, the repercussions in general or how it's going to affect you.
00:01:16.980 So I feel like it's not quite...
00:01:19.340 It's all an experiment.
00:01:21.080 Do you know what I mean?
00:01:22.080 And if taking birth control is better for you...
00:01:24.940 And do you know what?
00:01:25.720 I'm actually pissed off by the fact that there's so many, like...
00:01:29.220 We could spend so much time and so much energy and so much money on birth control in terms of adjusting men, but we don't. 0.80
00:01:36.020 In terms of what do you mean?
00:01:37.380 Adjusting men.
00:01:38.340 As in them being responsible?
00:01:39.920 No, no, no.
00:01:40.400 I mean, not just condoms.
00:01:41.420 Sorry, no shades.
00:01:42.160 Just...
00:01:42.800 As in, like...
00:01:45.120 Stuff in the egg.
00:01:45.800 We have birth control that stops us from releasing eggs, or we have birth control that pauses the period or whatever, but we don't have birth control that affects...
00:01:54.300 Yeah, but the emphasis is on the women. 1.00
00:01:55.900 Why?
00:01:56.420 Because they're the one that's going to be carrying the child. 1.00
00:01:58.760 So?
00:01:59.580 So that means you...
00:02:00.480 Because if anything, obviously the guy can leave.
00:02:02.940 He can...
00:02:03.320 But might have to pay some money.
00:02:04.300 Well, what's that to do with what I'm saying?
00:02:06.340 Oh, because nine months of pregnancy.
00:02:08.180 Yeah, no, I'm not talking about pregnancy.
00:02:10.220 I'm talking about the, like, conception.
00:02:13.120 Yeah, but you're taking it to start pregnancy?
00:02:14.620 Yeah, but the men can also stop... 0.96
00:02:17.080 Because we don't play those games, that's why.
00:02:19.020 Yeah, but we have all the power.
00:02:21.520 Like, I'm sorry, we have every power when it comes to not having a child.
00:02:25.300 Yeah, that's fair.
00:02:26.120 There's 41 forms of birth control.
00:02:27.960 Yeah, that's true.
00:02:28.700 Plan B.
00:02:29.680 Abortion.
00:02:30.260 That's what I'm saying.
00:02:30.700 It's pretty here.
00:02:31.380 There's so many forms of birth control for the woman, but there's so few for men. 0.99
00:02:36.520 Why?
00:02:37.220 There must be a reason scientifically.
00:02:38.620 I'm sure there is, but I just don't know what it is.
00:02:40.900 I'm just...
00:02:41.420 I think it has to do with that we carry the child.
00:02:45.480 Yeah.
00:02:46.000 Because at the end of the day, he's right.
00:02:48.520 If they leave, I'm stuck with a big belly for nine months, going through every trimester.
00:02:54.900 Like, it's not fair, but life isn't fair.
00:02:56.920 But at the end of the day, like, they're not going to carry the baby in their belly.
00:03:00.040 So I feel like, logically, when they started doing birth control, they were like, okay,
00:03:05.000 who's the first person that is suffering with this?
00:03:08.340 Yeah, but I think she's trying to say...
00:03:09.560 But also, it's not just necessarily, like, people go on it because their periods are so
00:03:14.220 bad that it kind of, like, balances, or they have, like, too much estrogen or something
00:03:20.120 like that.
00:03:20.580 I don't know.
00:03:21.400 I'm not on it for that reason, but...
00:03:22.920 Is there anything that would make you want to have kids?
00:03:26.960 Or would you, like, if you met someone, would you say it with chest and say, I don't want
00:03:31.420 kids?
00:03:31.860 I've said it before.
00:03:33.080 And it's quite funny, actually, because you mentioned that the fact that a lot of women 1.00
00:03:37.440 would, like, end up alone if they told someone that they didn't want children in general.
00:03:43.120 I don't think that's true because I have told people, like, if you ask me, oh, do you really
00:03:46.660 want kids?
00:03:47.040 I'm like, no, not really.
00:03:48.180 Does every man on here want kids?
00:03:50.040 Yeah.
00:03:50.560 Majority.
00:03:51.720 Majority in a very, very small sample size.
00:03:54.200 Like, let's think about...
00:03:55.300 You just said a small sample size because you said a guy.
00:03:56.960 I'm curious.
00:03:57.800 No, no, I'm just talking about that.
00:03:58.780 What's that?
00:03:59.660 Guys, guys, guys.
00:04:00.820 I'm curious.
00:04:01.400 Guys off camera, does anyone not want children from the men?
00:04:04.160 Anyone?
00:04:05.880 Okay.
00:04:07.260 No, no.
00:04:08.300 I'm just curious.
00:04:09.180 Does anyone not, like, doesn't want kids?
00:04:11.480 Is anyone saying yes?
00:04:12.740 Majority.
00:04:13.240 No, I don't think anyone.
00:04:13.840 Maybe I'm in the minority, and that's completely fine.
00:04:15.760 They're probably just trying to sleep with you. 0.82
00:04:17.280 Yeah.
00:04:18.960 It is what it is.
00:04:20.720 That's completely fine.
00:04:22.040 But, like, I just, I don't know.
00:04:24.900 I feel like a lot of people have children because they feel like they're supposed to, rather than because they genuinely want children.
00:04:30.440 How old did you say you are again?
00:04:31.940 I'm 23.
00:04:32.880 I'm 23. 1.00
00:04:33.040 Oh, shit. 1.00
00:04:33.420 One thing you did say is that when you was 19, you was all over having kids. 1.00
00:04:37.600 No, I didn't.
00:04:38.240 That's not what I said.
00:04:39.120 I said I was more likely to be persuaded into having one child.
00:04:43.440 But as I've gotten older, the more I've learned, the less I want children.
00:04:47.180 Okay.
00:04:47.480 A kid's for life, though. 0.57
00:04:48.260 You've got to understand that one.
00:04:49.200 Exactly.
00:04:49.880 Like, even when you're 56-year-old, that is your baby.
00:04:53.120 For life.
00:04:54.020 That's for life.
00:04:54.640 As soon as you have a child, your entire life goes to the child, whether you want it or not. 0.98
00:04:59.140 And the thing is, if I had a child, 100%, I'll be fucking devoted to my baby. 0.95
00:05:04.160 But do I want to be complete?
00:05:06.160 It's just interesting because, like, when people list the reasons that they don't want to have children,
00:05:11.120 you kind of admitted this early on.
00:05:12.380 Like, it's why they say modern women are selfish because everything's about me, me, me. 1.00
00:05:15.960 It's like, I don't want to give up my free time.
00:05:17.900 I don't want to give up my job.
00:05:19.620 I don't want to give up my, my, my, my.
00:05:21.140 Why not, though?
00:05:22.300 But there's a problem being selfish, though.
00:05:24.240 Why not?
00:05:24.460 Because if you're not selfish and you choose to be naive and blindfolded
00:05:28.800 and act like you can do everything and you do a half-hearted job and perhaps being a mother or anything.
00:05:34.500 I agree.
00:05:35.340 Like, I agree with what you were saying about the nannies.
00:05:37.420 Like, I'm not saying every single person should have kids,
00:05:39.580 but usually the people that don't have kids, I would say, are selfish.
00:05:42.260 Nah, you have to be selfish.
00:05:43.680 You have to be selfish.
00:05:44.740 You know what?
00:05:45.120 I genuinely disagree with that.
00:05:46.980 Yeah.
00:05:47.280 I'm sorry.
00:05:47.920 That's really crazy.
00:05:48.760 In my lifestyle, I can have a kid.
00:05:49.500 I'm sorry, but being selfish for a woman has a shelf life, to be honest. 0.88
00:05:52.900 Self-life in what way?
00:05:53.840 In a sense where, like, you can be selfish up to a point,
00:05:57.660 but then you kind of got to make a decision in it, like, for a man's time.
00:06:01.380 Yeah, but it's not fair if I'm a kid.
00:06:02.160 Like, I couldn't have a kid with my life right now.
00:06:04.560 I think...
00:06:05.500 Which is understandable, but that doesn't mean, like,
00:06:08.360 you still don't have a shelf life on being selfish.
00:06:11.120 Yeah.
00:06:11.540 I do.
00:06:11.940 I need you to elaborate on shelf life on being selfish.
00:06:14.380 Okay, as you said earlier, like, obviously, there's a certain time limit on,
00:06:20.280 obviously, when a woman can... 1.00
00:06:20.780 I didn't do that, but yeah, sure.
00:06:22.140 Well, possibly not.
00:06:22.960 Sorry, yourself.
00:06:23.860 There may be a certain time limit on having a child.
00:06:26.780 So, obviously, you can be selfish up to a point,
00:06:28.920 but then sooner or later, you've got to kind of make the decision
00:06:31.380 whether you obviously want a child or you don't.
00:06:33.740 I agree.
00:06:34.520 You know what?
00:06:35.080 Yeah, I completely agree.
00:06:36.060 That's what I'm saying.
00:06:36.620 I think if you've known from young that I genuinely want children, 100%, 1.00
00:06:42.860 if you want children to fucking have your babies, 1.00
00:06:46.160 like, I don't mind that. 1.00
00:06:47.780 Do you know what I mean?
00:06:48.340 Like, if you want your baby...
00:06:49.240 If you want 10 kids, have 10 kids.
00:06:51.360 I don't mind that at all.
00:06:52.640 In fact, I want my friends to have kids so I can be an auntie.
00:06:56.000 Do you know what I mean?
00:06:56.380 Are you scared?
00:06:57.320 I don't want to be pregnant. 1.00
00:06:58.820 That's what I mean.
00:06:59.580 I hear it.
00:07:00.140 Oh, of course I'm scared.
00:07:01.500 So it's because you're scared of the child?
00:07:02.880 No, it's not because I'm scared,
00:07:03.580 but also the responsibility that comes with a child is so much for me.
00:07:08.380 I'm barely functioning as a human being.
00:07:10.200 I do not want to take care of another human being as well.
00:07:12.840 And I'm not saying, like, that's fine.
00:07:14.300 I'm all about people doing what they want to do.
00:07:16.120 I don't even think that every single girl should have a... 1.00
00:07:18.580 There's a lot of people that shouldn't have kids.
00:07:19.900 No, but I think the people that shouldn't have kids 0.65
00:07:21.420 are usually too selfish to have children.
00:07:23.720 You know, it's also a scary thought
00:07:25.860 because you were talking about age earlier, yeah?
00:07:28.940 And you were saying, what if you're 55?
00:07:30.720 And I'm thinking, yeah, I want children,
00:07:32.700 but let's say I wouldn't want children, yeah?
00:07:35.020 And at 55, I'm home with 80 cats because no one...
00:07:38.720 I'm sorry, but it can happen, you know?
00:07:40.340 And then I'm like, hmm,
00:07:41.940 it would have been nice to have someone that...
00:07:44.660 And at 55, you kind of switch to, like, the men's perspective
00:07:48.340 because, you know, they start to treat you like they treat the men
00:07:52.720 because people aren't attracted to you as much anymore.
00:07:54.860 I just want to take it back to this point that you made
00:07:57.840 about if you don't want kids, you're selfish.
00:08:00.380 I actually genuinely disagree with that
00:08:02.840 because, to me, especially the points that you guys have made
00:08:06.760 for wanting kids is, like, I want to carry on my legacy,
00:08:09.760 my legacy.
00:08:10.780 You're talking about yourself.
00:08:12.540 That's inherently selfish.
00:08:13.960 But you're part of that legacy too. 0.99
00:08:15.260 No, no, no, I don't give a fuck about a legacy. 0.98
00:08:18.240 I'm not going to lie. 0.99
00:08:19.200 Why not?
00:08:20.040 Why does it matter?
00:08:21.080 No, women don't care about the legacy. 1.00
00:08:22.420 That's a men thing. 0.79
00:08:23.700 Why not?
00:08:23.920 That's a men thing. 0.79
00:08:24.260 Why not?
00:08:24.880 I'm asking you why.
00:08:25.620 Well, why would it matter what legacy matters to you? 0.66
00:08:28.920 Within a hundred years, my nigga, you're going to be forgotten regardless.
00:08:32.120 Yeah, but that's what my child is for. 0.97
00:08:33.580 Yeah, but two generations down.
00:08:36.440 And they're going to keep having kids too.
00:08:37.560 But they're not going to remember you.
00:08:39.540 So what does legacy mean?
00:08:40.300 They might not remember you personally,
00:08:41.860 but I've heard stories about my great-grandparents who are great.
00:08:44.180 Right.
00:08:44.520 A lot of people know.
00:08:46.240 A lot of people, if they descended from someone that was, like, great,
00:08:49.660 like, people, they always make fun of me in the comments,
00:08:52.040 Gongus Khan.
00:08:55.360 But seriously, like, people know that they descended from him.
00:08:58.660 And he was alive how long ago?
00:09:00.960 That's really cool.
00:09:02.240 Yeah.
00:09:02.680 But, like, you were dead.
00:09:04.180 Do you get that?
00:09:05.120 No, it's hilarious.
00:09:06.020 You don't exist anymore.
00:09:07.580 You're not on this earth.
00:09:08.800 Everyone knows your name and what you did.
00:09:11.040 Okay.
00:09:11.720 They didn't meet you.
00:09:12.860 Or they may have met you.
00:09:13.960 And so what?
00:09:14.640 I mean, I just think the point is that something, like, bigger than yourself.
00:09:17.520 Like, I'm just thinking if I'm 65 and by myself, like, one,
00:09:21.880 who's going to take care of you? 1.00
00:09:23.080 Because someone's got to take care of you in all day.
00:09:24.560 And the second part is, like, you want to die alone?
00:09:30.900 But even by that logic, though, what's the purpose of us doing anything?
00:09:36.740 There would just be no purpose.
00:09:37.860 That's fair.
00:09:38.260 There would just be no purpose.
00:09:39.360 We're just going to die.
00:09:40.180 Cool. 0.99
00:09:40.480 We're going to die.
00:09:41.260 There would just be no purpose for us doing anything.
00:09:42.580 I get what you're saying.
00:09:46.780 But by that logic, there would be no purpose for us to be doing anything.
00:09:51.000 There is no purpose for us to be doing anything.
00:09:52.980 Can I just show up here?
00:09:54.520 All right.
00:09:54.960 Come sit up like this.
00:09:56.160 Guys, guys, what the time?
00:09:57.160 Guys, guys, guys.
00:09:58.700 One more time.
00:09:59.640 Sorry, do you want to settle down?
00:10:01.940 Settle down with a partner?
00:10:03.720 Yeah.
00:10:04.280 Yeah, of course I do.
00:10:05.300 Just be able to, like, that's the thing, no?
00:10:06.760 That's because whoever you settle down with, most likely,
00:10:09.360 they may not, but most likely, they're going to want kids.
00:10:11.860 I'm sorry, are you, is it men?
00:10:13.020 That's what, whatever.
00:10:14.720 Oh, because it makes a difference.
00:10:19.180 If it's not a man, then obviously you might be all right. 0.98
00:10:21.340 I completely don't understand that.
00:10:22.600 That's why I make it a good point to be like,
00:10:24.300 hey, if they bring up anything to do with children
00:10:26.720 or if the conversation comes up, I'm going to be straight up.
00:10:28.860 I'm going to be like, I'm not going to lie.
00:10:29.940 I'm not really interested in that.
00:10:30.560 That's first date talk, though.
00:10:31.280 And if you're trying to, I don't lie, legit.
00:10:33.340 I'm going to get into that.
00:10:34.180 Let's get into it.
00:10:35.100 As soon as the food goes on the table, say it straight away.
00:10:39.380 I find it interesting to hear, like, what people say
00:10:42.360 or why they think the way they think,
00:10:44.000 because I'm like, okay, I might disagree,
00:10:45.860 but, okay, you might have points that I hear.
00:10:48.340 The whole point I was making is that,
00:10:50.360 I mean, I'm sure you as a mother could say,
00:10:52.480 like, you have to put the kid before you.
00:10:54.660 Exactly.
00:10:55.580 In every situation, like, my kid comes first in every situation.
00:10:59.460 I'm not, like I said, I weren't maternal and everything before.
00:11:02.380 No, I shocked.
00:11:03.240 My mum, on my child's birthday, every year goes, well done.
00:11:07.560 Another year.
00:11:08.900 Another year you've done it.
00:11:10.980 All my friends and my family, they never expected it from me,
00:11:14.340 but I am like, self-proclaimed.
00:11:16.840 No, I think I'm a good mum.
00:11:20.000 You definitely are.
00:11:20.480 No one said any different to me.
00:11:22.560 But I just never expected it weren't in the plan,
00:11:26.000 but, like, it is my priority in every situation in my life,
00:11:30.200 and it just changes your life so much.
00:11:31.940 But if you don't want kids, then that's fine.
00:11:34.480 I feel like everyone's got different.
00:11:36.180 It's like saying, what do you want to do for a living?
00:11:38.140 What's your career choice?
00:11:39.160 What's your job?
00:11:39.700 If that's your dream, everyone's just totally different,
00:11:43.620 but girls feel the pressure, 1.00
00:11:45.380 and with the thing where it was, like,
00:11:47.000 something to do with having kids and blah, blah, blah,
00:11:48.780 what I was going to say before is, for men, it is a legacy,
00:11:52.360 because what do you do when you get married?
00:11:54.280 You take the man's name.
00:11:55.640 Then what do you do when you have kids?
00:11:57.080 It takes the man's name.
00:11:58.280 It's carrying on their name,
00:12:00.520 and they're, like, they're honouring their dads
00:12:03.020 and their dads before them,
00:12:04.400 because you all take their name and you pass it down,
00:12:06.740 and that's what it is.
00:12:07.580 Like, we've just been, that's what it is for most people.
00:12:12.040 What if they don't see the dads in that, though?
00:12:13.320 A lot of people, though.
00:12:14.120 I think it's just banned on TikTok,
00:12:17.640 and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.
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