JustPearlyThings - May 29, 2023


She Proved That Women Love Bad Boys


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

205.60011

Word Count

2,871

Sentence Count

2

Misogynist Sentences

2


Summary

Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee have been married for over 20 years and have been on and off again since 1994. They have been together since 1994 and have both been married to other people, but they have been single for the past 5 years. Pamela and Tommy have been in a long term relationship and have had a sex tape that was released during their marriage and he was arrested for abuse, but she still went to jail for it. He went to prison for it and she still got back with him after and then again, after he came out of jail, they got back together but then he was released from prison and she decided to leave him.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 knows who Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee yeah honey yeah you know I don't follow
00:00:04.560 social okay you know Pamela Anderson's huge okay so Pamela Anderson is an
00:00:11.100 actress Tommy Lee is a rock star for those of you that don't know and they I
00:00:17.100 was researching them for this show and they've had just like an on-again off
00:00:21.880 again relationship since let me see it says 1994 so they got married after four
00:00:30.640 days of knowing each other yeah after they got married in Cancun Mexico and
00:00:38.880 literally they were just on again off again they also had a sex tape that was
00:00:42.940 released during when they were together they had two sons and he also
00:00:51.700 was arrested for abuse and she still actually got he went to jail for it and
00:00:58.960 she actually still got back with him after and then again on again off again
00:01:03.580 on again off again until now they're not together they've separated and he's
00:01:07.420 married to someone else and she's single now the reason that I bring this up is
00:01:11.620 because recently she has been doing a documentary and in the documentary she
00:01:17.560 said that she texted at 55 she hasn't been with him for five years she texted
00:01:23.920 Tommy Lee that he is her one true love while he's married to someone else so my
00:01:33.560 question for the panel was have you ever had an ex that was incredibly hard to get
00:01:39.520 over and what made him so hard to get over that one for me I would say it was
00:01:51.280 really like my first kind of love so I was at a young age I think I was like 18
00:01:55.420 at the time when I got with him so I feel like when you're at that age
00:01:58.540 especially us women being so emotional I just felt really attached to him and even
00:02:04.600 though I'd see him doing a lot I feel like I always want to run back to him
00:02:07.960 everything I was doing he just knew the right word to kind of say and I feel
00:02:11.240 like I was just I was too good at getting sucked in how long were you on
00:02:14.520 again off again with him so from 18 to when from 18 until I was turning 20 so
00:02:21.460 like nearly three years no I'm sorry nearly two years okay but that one was
00:02:25.240 very serious we kept going back we initially started talking in like 2019 and
00:02:31.340 then by the end of 2021 that's when we called it quits but during that stay
00:02:36.760 during that um that time period we got together about three times and broke up
00:02:41.000 three times so yeah and would you say he was a nice guy or a bad boy
00:02:45.280 looking back now definitely a bad guy a bad boy bad guy bad guy yeah what makes you say
00:02:52.880 that just like obviously the age I am now and the maturity I have looking back
00:02:57.860 there's a lot of things that he used to do that he'll be very good with his words I
00:03:01.740 know now when certain guys say stuff they don't mean it but back then it's very
00:03:06.480 easy to get sucked in like I said before and he just used to always know the right
00:03:10.260 words to say which can be a good trait sometimes but in relationships especially
00:03:13.640 as a guy and what made it so hard to leave just because he knew the right
00:03:19.080 things to say he was selling you a dream pretty much and you know it's that puppy
00:03:23.920 love it was puppy love for me because obviously that was like my first real proper
00:03:27.600 like relationship like we moved in together and everything so it was very
00:03:31.300 serious and obviously at that age as well I'm thinking like this is some
00:03:35.860 fairy tale going on but realizing now and looking back at it now I wouldn't have
00:03:41.080 done so many things that I did do and listen to him the way that I did if that
00:03:45.340 makes sense okay um you want to go next yeah um I feel like my the love that I had um is
00:03:53.180 kind of different to yours in the sense that mine wasn't a bad guy um we both
00:03:58.500 really cared about each other and it was was kind of on and off for some time but
00:04:03.140 he went jail and for like three years he went to jail yeah but three years but he
00:04:10.540 wasn't a bad guy okay okay so the reason why we always want to see the good in the
00:04:15.720 drug
00:04:15.860 I feel like I feel like a lot of times certain situations it's a cop-out answer
00:04:23.820 sometimes to say oh you're not situation things like that but genuinely for this
00:04:27.640 guy like the way that um he was brought up from very very young was was not good
00:04:33.460 and it kind of like that was the path that was predestined for him but then he's
00:04:36.860 kind of like got out of it now and I'm like we're good and everything but for
00:04:41.480 me it was very difficult to get over him when he came out of jail um we wanted to
00:04:47.740 get back together but I was like you know what you have to change yourself
00:04:50.240 everything like this fast and he took a year to do it and by that time um I was
00:04:55.380 like we're not gonna get back together but I was still very much in love of him
00:04:58.380 but I had to just realize that the amount that I loved him and the amount that I
00:05:02.340 love myself I'm very solid on what I want and what I do not want from a man
00:05:06.840 and um he had a child as well and in that time the year that he took to change I
00:05:10.760 realized that I do not want to be with someone who has already has a child
00:05:13.340 because I'm selfish I want to be first for a little bit of the relationship at least
00:05:16.060 but um did he change in that year yeah he did the total 160 so he was he was a bit
00:05:23.120 like more of a bad guy before and then he like changed into more of a nice guy
00:05:27.040 he was I mean he was in jail we can't he was I think he was always a nice guy he's
00:05:31.300 very good got a beautiful heart but I just feel like he saw that there was
00:05:34.940 another way to live life rather than the one that he had been stuck in for that
00:05:38.860 time um it just was a thing where I realized that as much as I love him and
00:05:44.080 as much as he loves me and all these kind of things like there's a greater kind of
00:05:48.120 love like I feel like when you love people and when people love you it's a
00:05:50.820 very selfish kind of thing because it's like I love you I want I want you to be
00:05:54.980 with me and we're gonna make it work and what I want but I was just like you know
00:05:58.720 what for the best for what I want and what you want you can't just keep on going
00:06:02.540 down this path what what made him different than other guys that made it
00:06:06.780 hard for him for you to get over him everyone says that they want honesty I
00:06:11.140 had this all the time we're talking about it earlier but he was genuinely very
00:06:14.080 honest if he did something bad he did something good like I had a lot of issues
00:06:18.920 of trust and even if he did something bad he was honest and it kind of made me
00:06:23.740 accept that you know what even if I might feel like people are down a wrong road and
00:06:29.040 I have a stereotype of road men that they're that they're dishonest and that
00:06:32.500 they like to use words because men know that women want to hear certain things
00:06:36.280 right and I feel like men use that to manipulate women and he showed me that
00:06:40.680 you know what someone can go be in that lifestyle want better for themselves and
00:06:44.760 not manipulate you was they could just tell you the truth and if you don't
00:06:47.860 accept it you don't accept it and then you have to do a sort out what you're
00:06:50.800 gonna do from there on so you like that he told you what it was exactly yes okay and
00:06:54.540 that's what made him different you feel like other guys told you what you
00:06:56.960 wanted to hear where he told you the truth and yes and also another thing
00:07:00.180 which I think a lot of men nowadays really struggle with is being assertive
00:07:03.980 in a respectful way like he would not allow me like I can be a bit um I think
00:07:09.460 everyone can be a bit um push the buttons a bit sometimes you know push the
00:07:12.340 boundaries and stuff but he always let me know this is not how it's gonna be do
00:07:15.780 not continue this behavior and I respected that because he knew the right way
00:07:19.360 to do it and a lot of men do not know how to do that nowadays they get angry or
00:07:23.060 they don't know how to express themselves or they um blame you and yeah this is
00:07:27.420 just another one okay and what about you right okay so when I um was going out with
00:07:35.380 my ex I was very young compared to him so I old were you how old was he okay you're
00:07:43.060 going to be underage I just steal it yeah I was 14 and he was 19 sorry shock horror everyone
00:07:53.100 yeah but he actually did ask permission from my mom and dad because he was like I really
00:07:58.660 like your daughter and he was he wasn't like a creep he wasn't giving creep okay he was giving
00:08:06.500 like gentleman actually and he was very kind and sweet but it was also long distance as well
00:08:15.680 so he was living in Holland and I was living here but he would get like um I think it was like a 12
00:08:23.800 hour coach every two weeks to come and see me and he was working like two jobs as well at like 19 years
00:08:30.760 of age um but I think from that because I was so young he was my first everything as well like first
00:08:38.980 well you know what I mean like first everything and so I think that's what kept the attachment
00:08:44.980 for so long but how long were you with him three years three years yeah but I think because I was so
00:08:54.680 young I think I was just so excited that like an older boy had liked me really and when I look
00:09:03.020 back on it now at 21 years of age I'm thinking I don't think that's too right if one of my friends
00:09:12.140 would come to me and say I like a 15 year old what do you think why did your parents allow that
00:09:18.920 because they saw how he was because he was a nice yeah and I was he was a good dude I was literally
00:09:23.480 begging them as well like if your daughter's growing like I love him you know what I mean
00:09:28.560 what can you do right um but I think the attachment was is because I was so young and I think I was
00:09:37.040 with him for that long because I was so young and also didn't really know what I want so you you
00:09:43.660 would have said he was a good guy though yeah not a bad boy good boy no he wasn't a bad guy at all
00:09:49.060 but I'm in a relationship you know um and what made him different was that you were young it was
00:09:57.020 your first like guy that you were with yeah okay yeah literally but um I look on it I look on it now
00:10:05.000 as in it was an okay experience but we also broke up in between as well and that's I think
00:10:13.580 because I was so young I like missed the the love and like the kind of like he kind of led the way
00:10:22.640 through everything so I think that's why I went back but I actually broke up with him because I was
00:10:26.340 bored you broke up with him because you were bored I broke up with him like three times just because
00:10:31.220 you were bored because I one because I was bored because we what do we have in common really what do
00:10:37.160 you have in common with a 14 year old and 19 like we are actually in different paths of life and then
00:10:43.340 he was long distance as well and it's just I was growing up and I was starting to like other things
00:10:51.880 and I was starting to actually know what my type was maybe you know so yeah that's that's the reason
00:10:59.040 why I think I kept on going back because of the age okay yeah what about you yeah I can kind of
00:11:05.220 relate to some of what you're saying there because my first relationship I was 16 and he was 20 and
00:11:10.720 he was already a father um and again my mum did not want me to date this guy she would literally pin
00:11:17.240 me down uh to stop me from going to see him what was wrong with him the fact that he had a child and
00:11:22.340 he was 20 right okay yeah yeah so yeah it was like that's not what you want for your 16 year old
00:11:26.680 daughter um but yeah I fell head over heels in love with him um I moved out of home when I was 17
00:11:33.400 got my own place he moved in with me so we were having a very adult relationship from the age of
00:11:38.800 17 um I did end up breaking up with him because actually what was interesting was I ended up taking
00:11:46.560 on quite a masculine role in that relationship I started earning very well and he wasn't and I was
00:11:53.140 then paying for everything and it was I lost respect for him to be honest um and I kind of made it known
00:12:00.240 it kind of came out as quite an outburst one day and I was like you know don't feel embarrassed
00:12:04.300 about the fact that every time we go to the movies I'm getting my purse out and every time we get you
00:12:08.500 know and all this so he and how old were you did you say um so at that point when I broke up with him
00:12:13.640 I was getting on for 19. okay so you're with him for three years yeah yeah um broke up with him um but
00:12:19.440 I loved him you know I really loved him he retaliated when I brought that two cents and
00:12:23.980 by throwing furniture around so I was like right you're out you know that was that he was a bad boy
00:12:29.120 too well he actually wasn't but he was so ashamed that it was like he reacted by just throwing a
00:12:35.020 drawers like punching the wall but I'd never seen that side of him before oh okay he was soft as a
00:12:40.560 kitten up until that point and then you said I pay I pay for all our dates like you you yelled at him
00:12:46.320 and then he started punching the wall yeah but but and three years I'd never seen that side of him
00:12:50.980 okay but at that point I was like pack your bags you're gone right you yeah you had to kick him to
00:12:56.220 the curb I had to he had to go he had to go right but then when he moved on and got into another
00:13:02.300 relationship I then started to feel like actually maybe I still love him and wanted to be with him
00:13:07.900 so it was almost like when he when someone else wanted him I wanted him back you know and then it
00:13:13.280 actually took a while for me to get over him which was strange um wait so you were you were good you
00:13:19.280 were moved on then you found out he was dating someone else and you you wanted him back yeah
00:13:23.140 he wanted me back did you did you get him back or no um no so he he actually was trying to get me
00:13:29.620 back for a period of time I didn't want to know but then the moment he got with somebody else it was a
00:13:34.540 bit of a toxic trait in me you know I then wanted him back um and that that time it was too late because
00:13:40.680 he'd then moved on moved him moved him with someone else and it actually did take me a long
00:13:44.500 time because I sort of thought oh you know maybe he is my my one true love you know um he made a
00:13:50.020 mistake but he's still a good guy and I still love him so it did take me a while to get over that one
00:13:54.820 I think because it was that first significant
00:13:56.840 in.