She Proved That Women Love Bad Boys
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Summary
Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee have been married for over 20 years and have been on and off again since 1994. They have been together since 1994 and have both been married to other people, but they have been single for the past 5 years. Pamela and Tommy have been in a long term relationship and have had a sex tape that was released during their marriage and he was arrested for abuse, but she still went to jail for it. He went to prison for it and she still got back with him after and then again, after he came out of jail, they got back together but then he was released from prison and she decided to leave him.
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knows who Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee yeah honey yeah you know I don't follow
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social okay you know Pamela Anderson's huge okay so Pamela Anderson is an
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actress Tommy Lee is a rock star for those of you that don't know and they I
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was researching them for this show and they've had just like an on-again off
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again relationship since let me see it says 1994 so they got married after four
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days of knowing each other yeah after they got married in Cancun Mexico and
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literally they were just on again off again they also had a sex tape that was
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released during when they were together they had two sons and he also
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was arrested for abuse and she still actually got he went to jail for it and
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she actually still got back with him after and then again on again off again
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on again off again until now they're not together they've separated and he's
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married to someone else and she's single now the reason that I bring this up is
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because recently she has been doing a documentary and in the documentary she
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said that she texted at 55 she hasn't been with him for five years she texted
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Tommy Lee that he is her one true love while he's married to someone else so my
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question for the panel was have you ever had an ex that was incredibly hard to get
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over and what made him so hard to get over that one for me I would say it was
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really like my first kind of love so I was at a young age I think I was like 18
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at the time when I got with him so I feel like when you're at that age
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especially us women being so emotional I just felt really attached to him and even
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though I'd see him doing a lot I feel like I always want to run back to him
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everything I was doing he just knew the right word to kind of say and I feel
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like I was just I was too good at getting sucked in how long were you on
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again off again with him so from 18 to when from 18 until I was turning 20 so
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like nearly three years no I'm sorry nearly two years okay but that one was
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very serious we kept going back we initially started talking in like 2019 and
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then by the end of 2021 that's when we called it quits but during that stay
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during that um that time period we got together about three times and broke up
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three times so yeah and would you say he was a nice guy or a bad boy
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looking back now definitely a bad guy a bad boy bad guy bad guy yeah what makes you say
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that just like obviously the age I am now and the maturity I have looking back
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there's a lot of things that he used to do that he'll be very good with his words I
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know now when certain guys say stuff they don't mean it but back then it's very
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easy to get sucked in like I said before and he just used to always know the right
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words to say which can be a good trait sometimes but in relationships especially
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as a guy and what made it so hard to leave just because he knew the right
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things to say he was selling you a dream pretty much and you know it's that puppy
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love it was puppy love for me because obviously that was like my first real proper
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like relationship like we moved in together and everything so it was very
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serious and obviously at that age as well I'm thinking like this is some
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fairy tale going on but realizing now and looking back at it now I wouldn't have
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done so many things that I did do and listen to him the way that I did if that
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makes sense okay um you want to go next yeah um I feel like my the love that I had um is
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kind of different to yours in the sense that mine wasn't a bad guy um we both
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really cared about each other and it was was kind of on and off for some time but
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he went jail and for like three years he went to jail yeah but three years but he
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wasn't a bad guy okay okay so the reason why we always want to see the good in the
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I feel like I feel like a lot of times certain situations it's a cop-out answer
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sometimes to say oh you're not situation things like that but genuinely for this
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guy like the way that um he was brought up from very very young was was not good
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and it kind of like that was the path that was predestined for him but then he's
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kind of like got out of it now and I'm like we're good and everything but for
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me it was very difficult to get over him when he came out of jail um we wanted to
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get back together but I was like you know what you have to change yourself
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everything like this fast and he took a year to do it and by that time um I was
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like we're not gonna get back together but I was still very much in love of him
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but I had to just realize that the amount that I loved him and the amount that I
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love myself I'm very solid on what I want and what I do not want from a man
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and um he had a child as well and in that time the year that he took to change I
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realized that I do not want to be with someone who has already has a child
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because I'm selfish I want to be first for a little bit of the relationship at least
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but um did he change in that year yeah he did the total 160 so he was he was a bit
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like more of a bad guy before and then he like changed into more of a nice guy
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he was I mean he was in jail we can't he was I think he was always a nice guy he's
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very good got a beautiful heart but I just feel like he saw that there was
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another way to live life rather than the one that he had been stuck in for that
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time um it just was a thing where I realized that as much as I love him and
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as much as he loves me and all these kind of things like there's a greater kind of
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love like I feel like when you love people and when people love you it's a
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very selfish kind of thing because it's like I love you I want I want you to be
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with me and we're gonna make it work and what I want but I was just like you know
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what for the best for what I want and what you want you can't just keep on going
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down this path what what made him different than other guys that made it
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hard for him for you to get over him everyone says that they want honesty I
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had this all the time we're talking about it earlier but he was genuinely very
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honest if he did something bad he did something good like I had a lot of issues
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of trust and even if he did something bad he was honest and it kind of made me
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accept that you know what even if I might feel like people are down a wrong road and
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I have a stereotype of road men that they're that they're dishonest and that
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they like to use words because men know that women want to hear certain things
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right and I feel like men use that to manipulate women and he showed me that
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you know what someone can go be in that lifestyle want better for themselves and
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not manipulate you was they could just tell you the truth and if you don't
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accept it you don't accept it and then you have to do a sort out what you're
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gonna do from there on so you like that he told you what it was exactly yes okay and
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that's what made him different you feel like other guys told you what you
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wanted to hear where he told you the truth and yes and also another thing
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which I think a lot of men nowadays really struggle with is being assertive
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in a respectful way like he would not allow me like I can be a bit um I think
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everyone can be a bit um push the buttons a bit sometimes you know push the
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boundaries and stuff but he always let me know this is not how it's gonna be do
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not continue this behavior and I respected that because he knew the right way
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to do it and a lot of men do not know how to do that nowadays they get angry or
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they don't know how to express themselves or they um blame you and yeah this is
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just another one okay and what about you right okay so when I um was going out with
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my ex I was very young compared to him so I old were you how old was he okay you're
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going to be underage I just steal it yeah I was 14 and he was 19 sorry shock horror everyone
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yeah but he actually did ask permission from my mom and dad because he was like I really
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like your daughter and he was he wasn't like a creep he wasn't giving creep okay he was giving
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like gentleman actually and he was very kind and sweet but it was also long distance as well
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so he was living in Holland and I was living here but he would get like um I think it was like a 12
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hour coach every two weeks to come and see me and he was working like two jobs as well at like 19 years
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of age um but I think from that because I was so young he was my first everything as well like first
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well you know what I mean like first everything and so I think that's what kept the attachment
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for so long but how long were you with him three years three years yeah but I think because I was so
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young I think I was just so excited that like an older boy had liked me really and when I look
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back on it now at 21 years of age I'm thinking I don't think that's too right if one of my friends
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would come to me and say I like a 15 year old what do you think why did your parents allow that
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because they saw how he was because he was a nice yeah and I was he was a good dude I was literally
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begging them as well like if your daughter's growing like I love him you know what I mean
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what can you do right um but I think the attachment was is because I was so young and I think I was
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with him for that long because I was so young and also didn't really know what I want so you you
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would have said he was a good guy though yeah not a bad boy good boy no he wasn't a bad guy at all
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but I'm in a relationship you know um and what made him different was that you were young it was
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your first like guy that you were with yeah okay yeah literally but um I look on it I look on it now
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as in it was an okay experience but we also broke up in between as well and that's I think
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because I was so young I like missed the the love and like the kind of like he kind of led the way
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through everything so I think that's why I went back but I actually broke up with him because I was
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bored you broke up with him because you were bored I broke up with him like three times just because
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you were bored because I one because I was bored because we what do we have in common really what do
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you have in common with a 14 year old and 19 like we are actually in different paths of life and then
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he was long distance as well and it's just I was growing up and I was starting to like other things
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and I was starting to actually know what my type was maybe you know so yeah that's that's the reason
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why I think I kept on going back because of the age okay yeah what about you yeah I can kind of
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relate to some of what you're saying there because my first relationship I was 16 and he was 20 and
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he was already a father um and again my mum did not want me to date this guy she would literally pin
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me down uh to stop me from going to see him what was wrong with him the fact that he had a child and
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he was 20 right okay yeah yeah so yeah it was like that's not what you want for your 16 year old
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daughter um but yeah I fell head over heels in love with him um I moved out of home when I was 17
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got my own place he moved in with me so we were having a very adult relationship from the age of
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17 um I did end up breaking up with him because actually what was interesting was I ended up taking
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on quite a masculine role in that relationship I started earning very well and he wasn't and I was
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then paying for everything and it was I lost respect for him to be honest um and I kind of made it known
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it kind of came out as quite an outburst one day and I was like you know don't feel embarrassed
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about the fact that every time we go to the movies I'm getting my purse out and every time we get you
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know and all this so he and how old were you did you say um so at that point when I broke up with him
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I was getting on for 19. okay so you're with him for three years yeah yeah um broke up with him um but
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I loved him you know I really loved him he retaliated when I brought that two cents and
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by throwing furniture around so I was like right you're out you know that was that he was a bad boy
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too well he actually wasn't but he was so ashamed that it was like he reacted by just throwing a
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drawers like punching the wall but I'd never seen that side of him before oh okay he was soft as a
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kitten up until that point and then you said I pay I pay for all our dates like you you yelled at him
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and then he started punching the wall yeah but but and three years I'd never seen that side of him
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okay but at that point I was like pack your bags you're gone right you yeah you had to kick him to
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the curb I had to he had to go he had to go right but then when he moved on and got into another
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relationship I then started to feel like actually maybe I still love him and wanted to be with him
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so it was almost like when he when someone else wanted him I wanted him back you know and then it
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actually took a while for me to get over him which was strange um wait so you were you were good you
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were moved on then you found out he was dating someone else and you you wanted him back yeah
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he wanted me back did you did you get him back or no um no so he he actually was trying to get me
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back for a period of time I didn't want to know but then the moment he got with somebody else it was a
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bit of a toxic trait in me you know I then wanted him back um and that that time it was too late because
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he'd then moved on moved him moved him with someone else and it actually did take me a long
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time because I sort of thought oh you know maybe he is my my one true love you know um he made a
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mistake but he's still a good guy and I still love him so it did take me a while to get over that one