She Tried To DEFEND Obese People And This HAPPENED
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In this episode of Thick & Thin, we are joined by our good friend, Pippa, who is a plus size influencer and author. We talk about her journey with fat loss, veganism and body positivity. We also discuss the dangers of corporate beauty ideals and the impact they can have on mental health.
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but taking on someone's opinion and letting that influence your lifestyle and your actions is not
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weak my mother tapped me on my shoulder and um and she said uh pam um a little bit too big
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and i went vegan i started looking at what is in the food and the ingredients it's up to you
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to educate yourself i'm gonna show you that when i went vegetarian for nine months i'd have like
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meat every so often um when i was at my ex-boyfriend's now house but like just cutting out the
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meat for me all that time helped me actually lose that weight but also compared to australia and here
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your food here goes off so much quicker which is a good thing yeah and in australia it can be in my
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fridge for like two months a month and it's still i can still eat it yeah it doesn't last more than
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three days here the best kind of food expires in like five days and after five days you're like
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oh which is good like i live in japan like the the japanese wives they go to the grocery store every
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day yeah because it does go off quick yeah the do you know what the world is going to get fatter and
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fatter shall i tell you why why because you know a lot of these vegan foods these processed sausages
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and all that and they're saying it's vegan you need to see what's actually in them they're they're
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actually they're gonna they they actually they're not a process they're actually marketing thing it's
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another agenda yeah so all this vegan food it's still gonna carry on the obesityness because what
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they're putting in it's it's not great and that's the truth and that's why i say anyone who wants to
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lose weight since this is a plus size topic eat natural foods great your vegetable try and go as
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organic as you can and just think about green what's good what's yeah what can you take from
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the earth that's been provided naturally and that's my advice i would say walk i just wanted to say like
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when like we were going on the um topic of like front of magazines and stuff like that the covers of
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magazines do you not also think that this whole you know 10 perfect image can also have a detrimental
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effect mentally women because we are going to strive to want to be that 10 so that's going to then
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create a whole that was me you gotta you gotta turn yeah i have an answer i have an answer only if you're
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mentally weak i want my self-esteem to be a little bit humbled and lowered when i look on the covers
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i remember the days when i could pull the cover off and put it on my fridge and she was my motivation
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yeah i liked those days that's a good thing you're right but it does create more issues for those
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people who have the trauma well and i also think it's okay to be an average chick like why do we live
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in this world where you need to be top 10 percent but there's a new average if people are growing more
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corpulent and obesity is becoming the norm then the average is actually changing and what i want
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lowered right well you would agree or are you saying being it's being changed i didn't say lowered or
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or elevated because i think that's quite subjective we're talking about beauty we're talking about health
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health i don't think is beauty isn't subjective men find genuine generally the same things attractive
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in what cultures and at what time periods if we read up on it across cultures you could see that in
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history being on the heavier side was actually a sign of being wealthy no that's not true i've done a
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study no i've done a study we've had so many people bring this up on the shows it's not true not across
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the board yeah they what cultures is it not true it goes back to like it goes back to like mesopotamia
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and are we talking about so when i say it was a sign of being wealthy or rich we're talking about people
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not having enough money and therefore starving and being on the gaunter side of the spectrum right
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versus people who are wealthy and obviously when you have money you're you know your discipline decreases
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and so you're spending on food and you grow to be more corpulent and so what i'm trying to say is
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like there there have been multiple time periods multiple cultures where they studied multiple fertility
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gods and goddesses of sex and they all were the same they were big nice round butt small hips
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big breasts yeah flat stomach okay young yes right and that's literally multiple time periods over
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multiple cultures that couldn't even communicate with each other so you're talking about asia
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africa you know the aztecs all of these europe they have all of these things and it's correlating across
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all of these cultures during all these time periods so it's it is an objective marker and then if you look
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at now too like despite this gigantic corporate push towards body positivity dudes still like skinny
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hot girls big boobs okay and those same women who are the personification of beauty for men how do we
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know that they are not equally unhealthy as someone who is perhaps my shape who is a little bit on the
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on the rounder side and people might look at me and have health concerns that's a good yeah like let's talk
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about the difference the disparity between how someone presents and what is going on on the inside
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because this discussion it transcends health and beauty we're talking about i'll give you two things
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one is a lot more common so the obesity is much more common than anorexia only like yeah i don't know
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the exact number but it's less than five percent of women are even underweight so one is much more common
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um and the second thing is um morbidly obese people's life expectancy drops so by by molt i don't
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i don't know the exact number off the top of my head so when you look at the numbers of the people
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that are underweight and the people that are morbidly obese the people that are morbidly obese have a
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lower life expectancy yeah like these these style model these plus size models are starting to drop off
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there was this latina plus size model she was 37 years old she died from heart heart attack and the number
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one reason people die in the world is due to circulatory issues and once you're obese and
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you're consuming too much food your veins and everything they actually get clogged up with excess
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amounts of fat when you're a skinny person that's just i mean biologically it's impossible because you
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don't have an excess amount of fat so when you talk about markers of health that's what i'm trying to
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say is like the larger girls that one marker of health in regards to circulatory health is going to be
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lower compared to somebody who is thinner and we're talking about that one specific marker of health
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well do you know do you know which uh which people live the longest on the planet which
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isn't it isn't it mediterranean no it's japanese women oh no way japan has the third lowest obesity
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rate in the world you know as a direct correlation to that so i tell you why why because they eat their
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own food and they ain't eating no processed foods they stuck to their rice yeah they stuck to their
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steamed fish they stuck to all the natural foods that's why because they kept it not they kept it
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good but with i think with the western food in general a lot of it is processed that that is the
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issue a lot of money when it's quick yeah it's quick and easy like when people sit around they
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people sit around and they eat carbs and they think like i'm just eating carbs like i'm because i feel
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hungry but they keep eating it and then they wonder why they keep feeling hungry it's because they're not
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getting satiated they're not getting the vitamins they need they're not getting the nutrients the
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micronutrients all these things so like i noticed personally that when i switched to just eating two
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grass-fed grass-finished steaks a day like i would be completely satiated but i mean when was last
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time you're eating potato chips you're like yeah i've had enough potato chips let's talk about your
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cholesterol you know just slamming them down yeah let's talk about your cholesterol because aren't
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there some schools of thought that say if you over index on red meat that your cholesterol goes through
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the roof yes and butter no as well potentially i actually had a woman that only eats red meat yeah
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yeah and what were her insights like she looked good she looked great she had really um clear skin
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and all of her annual like um autoimmune issues on a way like she had like a bunch of health problems
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they all went away but eating i don't know it's sold down to the meat industry where does she get her
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meat we don't know she probably gets good meat and if she has a heart attack tomorrow what do we what
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do we say to that then it probably didn't work but but so far she hasn't had a heart attack so far
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so far but then there are loads of uh sort of plus size people myself include i haven't had a heart
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attack yet and i'm i'm like my bmi is terrible i haven't had a heart attack and i can still stand
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for an hour you're only you're only you're only 24 though it's like i've talked to people like your
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size roughly and they'll say like after like 30 that's when they really start to get healthy yes
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girl it really comes in like honestly as soon as you hit 30 i'm telling you i i wish i prepared
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personally so my advice is before you reach 30 just start stretching stretching is one thing i
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wish i did more of and now i'm learning the lesson in the heart rate but now that i've got myself
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into practice it's just so much easier about stretching i just think too as a culture people
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like just eat too much in general people eat when they're i mean did you guys eat when you were
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bored yes yeah i would eat for five all the time i'd be sitting at home and i'd be like oh i'm
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bored or let me just go to the pantry and find something oh there's nothing there oh let me okay
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i looked at the health effects of being obese and then it's at all causes of death so it's like high
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blood pressure high high cholesterol low cholesterol type 2 diabetes coronary heart disease stroke
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strokes gallbladder um osteoarthritis sleep apnea low quality mental illness such as clinical depression
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anxiety and other mental disorders body pain and so it's like i just think it's like we wouldn't put
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someone that like that's a my cousin he was a heroin addict and i we wouldn't put heroin addicts on the
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covers of magazines but more people are kill or die from obesity related yeah do you know how many people
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die from obesity every day 1400 people die every day you know how many people died in september 11th
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how many just 500 no just over 3 000 i don't know i just guess you know so you're having like i was
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on brian carter's show and he was telling me this so he says like every three days you're having a
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september 11th in in modern life so you know it like yeah i think it's just it's on because nobody
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wants to be called fat nobody wants to be told you're ugly nobody wants to be sexually unattractive
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men or a woman we all want to be hot we all want to be sexy you know we want to be good looking it
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doesn't that never leaves you and so when you're confronted with an uncomfortable reality most people
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and it's sad to say but most people can't handle the truth yeah and so they choose a nice little lie
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that makes them feel better and that's why oprah has money that's why the view has money that's why
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dr oz has money that's why dr phil has money sit down down and lie to women come on down you know
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and sometimes it's like i think harsh truths that time can make you make life changes yeah
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like like i i was i was pretty heavy at one point and what made me like 200 club yeah what was your
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weight um what was the highest that you've got like like 210 maybe 215 that would be a dream for me
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is that pounds or what pounds pounds i don't know what that is like 90 92 93 kilos i saw a picture of
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myself no that was personally well i'll tell you natalie that happened to me i'll tell you i'll show you
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the picture i'll tell you i'll tell you i played volleyball my whole life so i was training like five
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hours a day from the time i was like i don't know 10 years old so i was just an athlete and when i stopped
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playing my eating habits were horrible like absolutely horrible so i gained weight like
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really really fast because i just couldn't burn off all the calories i was burning before
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and i was working a sales job and there was a guy i had a crush on at work i had the biggest crush on
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this guy's and i heard i heard him laughing with um the other guys at work saying oh like the the one
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guy was like oh i'm like 190 or something and he's like you can't be that big that's so that's so heavy
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i would never like and then they were talking about girls and they're like i would never date a girl
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over 200 and i was like they didn't think i was that big because i'm tall so i carry it a bit better
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yeah but really but that but that harsh truth like i lost a bunch of weight after that and i and i've
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kept it off ever since yeah so you know sometimes you need that kick don't you just to make you realize
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yeah and like you know it might have been harsh at first but it was true if we're talking about
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self-esteem doesn't you mentioned being weak-minded earlier hearing your crush or people that you might
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fancy and and realizing that your type doesn't like you back does that not make you weak-minded
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then if self-esteem is really in self and you're hearing people you find desirable talk about you
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in an undesirable way and you're saying that made you change even though the change was for the positive
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let's say does that not make you weak of mind because they're strong because i made me do something
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strong i ran a marathon because i was like you know if those are the type of guys i want to date this is
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what they want and the difference is women have never heard what men want but men always change
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to try to get us like they try to make more money they try to get a better shade they take steroids
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they learn how to talk to women and it's like we have never heard what men want like ever because
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the media is constantly telling us what we want to hear so no i i don't think it makes me a weak person
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i think i could have it would have been weak to go and cry but i went and did something about it
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yeah but taking on someone's opinion and letting that influence your lifestyle and your actions is
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not weak i i don't think it's a bad thing to be maybe it's not an opinion i mean i mean it's a fact
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yeah i think i think because then you you kind of fall into the school of thoughts like you know because
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like if you're getting fired from job after job after job you're like well these people have a poor
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opinion of me like but that's what can i just say something that's what's that's what's wrong with
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the world people care too much yeah yeah and and and i think people don't care i think people don't
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care enough has an effect like you said earlier but i think i think we should care about outcomes
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especially as women because it's like yeah if we don't in our 20s and like early 30s get our
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together like we don't get to have children but power and so it's like like one obesity effects effects if
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you get to have kids and two it affects the type of husband you you get because geriatric pregnancy
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starts at 35. don't ever assume big people can't they're honestly big people likely to come as a big
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guy i'm not even gonna i feel ugly most of my life but when i went nights bridge i'm not gonna i learned
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the power of being big all these people from uae they'd be beeping the car so they'd be saying hello
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there's numbers on this at least for women i i don't research it as much for men but like i
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research it more for women like men that don't make as much money tend to date bigger but like
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it's really yeah because they get free food probably and they get hugs and cuddles
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because again like i mean what what guy with money power and status married a big girl someone who has a
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preference yeah somebody likes nobody but i'm saying i'm saying nobody the guys that have all the
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options nobody does it just like a beautiful woman is never going to pick a broke man in the same way
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the top 10 15 no no it's not agree it's like if we look at the men that have everything the most
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desired men in society they don't typically pick big girls the same way the most desired women in society
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don't typically pick broke men yeah just like i've actually got my own pam pam disagrees i want to hear what
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because it's it falls down to to your preference what you actually like when you like so if you
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know yourself and you know what you like whether that person has money or not it wouldn't even matter
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yeah just like it from from women to men or men what are you talking from women's like from my
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from my from women to men to men so if you don't have any money or you need a bit of help but i like
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you anyway i'm gonna like you for who you are yeah first i've got a theory by the way guys can i say my
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theory data it just doesn't like it's really nice when we can say this and maybe that applies to you
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but at large it just doesn't like women when women get a promotion at work they're more likely
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to divorce their husband when i'll earn their man that's really why i think that people are crazy
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i think the world's gone mad my theory is okay people who have come up to me like a lot of people
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have come up to me and i don't know why once i asked one of them how long were you breastfed for
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four and they replied saying oh a bit older and i realized everyone that likes big people yeah
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they've been breastfed for long and or their mom or they are they had a big auntie or a big mom
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so and they're used to like that sort of feeling so as an older adult that's what they seek and
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that's the truth and it's unfortunately it's a cycle i don't know if it's unfortunate but it is a cycle
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only fat fat fat people raise fat children because they pass you you pass your ways on
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you know but sometimes the parents that's why rich people typically their children are also rich because
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they pass on the knowledge of being but sometimes i know families i know families where the parents are
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like twigs and the kids are like monsters i literally and i don't mean that in a bad way
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but compared to the parents this whole physical this is an open invite look at anybody that thinks
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they cannot lose weight for whatever reason it's impossible look at i'll pay for it come come to
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london eat the client come on down yeah you need to be careful what you say because there might be a lot
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of big people that start messaging you let's start messaging okay okay first first two first two
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i just wanted to um touch on the point of food the reality is it doesn't really matter what you
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eat processed foods healthy foods the reality is the science is clear if you eat more calories than
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your body can can convert to energy you're gonna get fat yeah that's irrefutable that's not i don't
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believe in i'll tell you i mean it looks like he doesn't believe in that though it's true i'll
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give you my anecdotal experience okay for the most part of my life i have i have been eating
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unhealthy like i don't eat healthy the only times i really ate healthy was when i was young but for
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most of my adult years i don't have time to cook i don't have time to do all of that but i eat once
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a day and i exercise so it's the science is clear i don't know if anyone here is refuting the science
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does anyone here disagree that the more calories you consume and you don't exercise yeah we all
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agree on that i think sugar pop said he disagreed okay i think it's literally you can't put calories
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on a on a leaf you can't put calories on spinach you can't do that you see you just eat it goes from
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the ground that's when i think with all this calorie counting and stuff like that how do you actually
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calorie count a carrot because each carrot is different or each and when it and also did you
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know calories you can weigh it did you know you weigh the food you know food calories when they say
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on the label like whatever calories it is did you know each person consumed in their body when they
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consume food the calories change and it's different for each person it then boils down to your metabolism
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yeah but you can do a metabolism like my whole point is this is all we can all fit like this is
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something that can be fixed it can be changed and that's the great thing about like women most of the
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things that men want can be fixed like men want fit feminine friendly women those are all things that
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can be fixed we're faithful faithful yeah trust them right but on the other hand it's like men
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they can't make themselves taller no but they don't complain near as much as we do about men's
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preferences because we are we can we are our own worst enemy to be fair yeah um and cancelled
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a woman speaking the truth and then we try to as a woman we try to look for a solution
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and sometimes that solution um i mean my job is i take women for surgery i take them to turkey i
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take them to the dominican republic um they they come to me we sit down we look at the mental health
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issues surrounding that um and then i provide them with their post-operative care so so i see yeah
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genius it's amazing it's amazing i've recently been shut down by instagram myself as well so i know what
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that's like but um but we have a generation now of women today who um they're they're using some of
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them not all are using surgery as a as a as a way as a way to lose weight as a quick fix and they're
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not getting healthy um and you've got clinics now um that are easily accessible the price is now great
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and and they're going for surgery and they're having these surgeries and they're coming home
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and they're coming home with issues yeah so so i've been dedicated and i've and i have a passion
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for making sure that that women are are fully informed um as to what they are doing why they
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are doing that and to understand the processes that happen afterwards yeah but we have a problem
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we have a real real issue especially here in the uk um where women are dying yeah because of it
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yeah kanye west's mother kanye west's mother she went to get plastic surgery died you know but and
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there's you know because um after i got so for men do you know what happens to men after you get
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liposuction no tell me so so your penis swells up wait wait hang on a second that happens to the
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vagina does it happens wow i'm learning something new today guys no no because here's the thing the
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the the the all the fluids and everything gravity dry you know it it drops down there yeah but i
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guarantee your vagina didn't look like a huge purple eggplant my vagina was purple it was huge
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and nobody told me about me neither me neither i had surgery five years ago you could see it in my
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documentary i'll link you i will link you yeah i was i couldn't believe it it was huge no you know
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i don't know who's as big as yours or mine's but believe me when i saw mine i said this this is not
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normal no mine was like my so my testicles and my my balls swole up i'm not even joking to the size
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of like a like an overly like a super gmo grapefruit like this big that sounds painful that sounds
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painful you know it's all the fluids fluids yeah and you know it's crazy i was dating this beautiful chinese
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girl at the time and she took lotion and like rubbed it all over me took care of me i couldn't even
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believe a woman would do this yeah right one yeah so yeah yeah yeah and and she massaged it and she
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took care of me i saw a deeper side of female love during that time well i hope she wasn't small framed in
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i don't think she'll ever forget me though i'm gonna i'm gonna read super chats for a second um
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to the girl on the couch uh there's a difference between ldl cholesterol and hdl ldl builds up when
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eating processed uh seeds and hydrogenated oil like canola hdl is good also we do need cholesterol
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to feed our brains and make sex hormones um nsx red meat only um correlates negatively when it's
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part of blended modern diet meat only green veg are a mix of those show lower risks of heart to be
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heart disease and diabetes um what's removed carbohydrates nsx obese man um self-sterilized
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due to the heat downstairs the twig and berries need room to stay cool for healthy fertility facts
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micro body positivity but most overweight people i've known were the meanest people i've known doug
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mpa is it socially acceptable for a fat person to make fun of a skinny person if a skinny woman makes
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fun of a fat woman then all hell freezes over um all hell breaks loose sorry it's the savvy
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the savvy ninja are raging on someone who chooses to get lycos up lipo is many person energy do what you must
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do what must to evoke the change you desire um some changes take extreme measures nsx don't mistake
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good manners with body positivity mainstream and health care needs to be honest about health concerns
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one-to-one dynamics with people can still be polite while doing this honestly uh weaponry fitness i was
00:25:18.640
50 pounds overweight last year following a traumatic situation aside from that my brother's fat shamed me
00:25:24.640
every day and i lost the weight in four months wmld it's one of my clients mpa oh no way yeah the
00:25:31.760
average woman with a master's degree has over 103 has 103 000 in debt there are too many economically
00:25:39.440
unattractive women in the u.s moral for all all of those juices are full of sugar um i think i read that
00:25:45.120
one earlier let me raw juices hello when people juice wait wait hold on i just want to make sure
00:25:52.320
there's no other ones um okay go ahead when people juice what do you think they juice of course they'll
00:25:59.440
get a fruit and juice it that's what i meant it's literally a fruit they thought you were talking about
00:26:04.000
the you know the juices that you buy in yeah they're like like say you're doing raw juice that is the best
00:26:09.280
way raw juice it's so funny right like when you buy those fruit juices they're like 70 fruit juice like
00:26:14.000
what the fuck's the other 30 this is not what i signed up for i have a question i have a question
00:26:19.360
next question do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing for me yeah no no definitely no
00:26:30.320
do you guys think fat shaming can be a good thing for me no sorry sorry sorry sorry i apologize
00:26:37.120
do you do you think that fat shaming can be a good thing for me personally it motivated me to lose
00:26:44.320
weight i think it was a great thing for me and i'm very thankful for it but other people have different
00:26:49.760
opinions so um i you didn't interrupt me so you get to go first yes go ahead um so i can remember some
00:26:57.520
years ago where um my mother tapped me on my shoulder and um and she said uh pam um you're just
00:27:06.960
a little bit too big and at the time i can remember feeling like oh i felt really sad but it was truth
00:27:16.320
and i needed to hear that yeah um and it was shortly after i'd had i think my third uh baby um but i was
00:27:24.240
i kept with the habits so i had really bad habits and looking back now um at the time i was quite
00:27:31.360
offended by that and i was upset what are those habits if you don't mind me asking um so
00:27:35.280
just the eating of lots of chocolate i had a sweet tooth that was my issue and also there was
00:27:41.680
there was yeah there was chocolates and there was gato cakes and there was i used to have when i was a
00:27:47.120
kid i used to have club biscuits underneath my pillow and whenever i was in a particular type of
00:27:51.760
mood because it has it's it's catch-22 because you need the sugar because it's now controlling your
00:27:56.800
mood it's it's dictating uh uh your your did you grow up poor uh yeah pretty much me too um so therefore
00:28:02.640
i had there was there we didn't have a variation of foods around food was just like it was like
00:28:07.920
money you're just like yeah i got food whatever it was um and so for me it was for me to be able to
00:28:12.720
have the sweets whatever it was i was getting out of sugar is what i thought i needed so that became a
00:28:17.840
habit yeah and i took that habit into adulthood so when my mom who was the first person to come and
00:28:23.600
say to me pam you're a little bit too big you know because even the the the father of my children he
00:28:30.560
used to bring me chocolates that was the way to shut me up bring bring me the chocolates and i'll
00:28:36.080
eat them and then everybody's happy in the house um but again that became a habit so even now even
00:28:41.680
though i've had a tummy tuck and i've had lipo um if i'm feeling a particular way there are times when i
00:28:47.680
will you know i wouldn't so much get there for a roche but i might have a healthier chocolate or you
00:28:52.960
know a dark chocolate perhaps but i need to have that sugar fix um and i think that now we can we
00:29:00.640
can still have those those types of behaviors they can still linger about even when you you know you
00:29:06.400
might look good but again are you healthy sugar is sugar is way more addicting sugar is more addicting
00:29:13.840
than cocaine you know that you know that do you know that i know you've never i know you've never
00:29:20.640
done cocaine pearl but i've been at columbia a couple times let me tell you something like it's crazy
00:29:27.920
how addictive sugar is and and it's honestly in in the united states sugar's in everything it's in you
00:29:36.480
know it's in bread in the states it's high fructose syrup is in the bread there's sugar in every single
00:29:43.040
thing in the states and that's the that's the main reason why so many people are fat in states
00:29:48.480
because everything has sugar in it the salad dressing has sugar in it people like i'm gonna
00:29:52.880
be healthy i'm gonna eat a salad and they have fucking salad dressing that has sugar and all these
00:29:57.280
seed oils in it so we're living in this like kind of contaminant world but there's a lot of people
00:30:02.720
making these breakthroughs and coming through and understanding like the fundamentals of nutritional
00:30:07.040
science and putting it into food thank god you know but like the average person
00:30:12.720
is just so poorly uneducated don't do you remember the food pyramid
00:30:18.480
did you guys have food i did it in school but i don't remember it the food pyramid said you needed
00:30:23.040
to eat six to eleven servings of bread or rice a day can you imagine 11 cups of rice a day 11 cups of
00:30:32.080
rice a day but you know what it's your it's your it's your responsibility to educate yourself on
00:30:43.040
years ago i did but when i got really fat when i told you when i went vegan i started looking at
00:30:48.480
what is in the food and the ingredients it's up to you to educate yourself yes i'm going to show you
00:30:53.200
that unless you educate yourself but now that we have social media it's become a lot easier but if you
00:30:58.000
think about years ago we didn't have this we had to trust the government yeah we process you know
00:31:02.720
you can question everything you know now now ketchup is considered a fruit in the food pyramid of the
00:31:07.360
united states i think i'm joking it's pros the process is the key word here it's processed sugar
00:31:14.320
if it was from a sugar cane if it was from a fruit and and yeah it's not true sugar so it's actually
00:31:19.440
process is the key word not sugar cane but honey is not true honey not too raw honey i don't know i
00:31:25.920
when i was a kid i was i was also a chunky kid i lost the weight when i started sports but the habits
00:31:31.040
continued you know what i mean they persist yeah and and i i know how to make really good um cookies
00:31:37.280
from scratch and it's with all natural stuff because you're making it from scratch and that made me
00:31:42.000
pretty fat so i think it's for sure it's the it's the american i used to eat like half of the cookie
00:31:47.680
dough when i was a kid and like the american diet like the mainstream american diet is just so
00:31:54.400
unfortunately unhealthy like you know do you know which country has the lowest obesity rate in the
00:31:58.720
world japan no no no no i thought it was like mediterranean food iceland no no no it's vietnam yeah and
00:32:11.680
if you ever go to vietnam if you eat there it's like first of all if you go to vietnam it's just
00:32:16.240
like a giant it's like a small city in a jungle and vietnamese people eat so healthy they eat
00:32:23.360
natural foods there's not a lot of gmos nonsense you know you know vietnam has one of the lowest
00:32:28.000
divorce rates in the world too seven percent have you been to vietnam that's the place i want to go
00:32:31.920
to it's really awesome i've been in vietnam vietnamese food that's that's money it's good i used to have
00:32:37.200
a boy called li nam in when i was in primary school as well he was vietnamese yeah so like
00:32:42.320
you know the food when you eat there too and i've noticed this because you know i travel a lot i'm
00:32:46.560
like i'm addicted to traveling but honestly every time i go back to america and i start eating american
00:32:51.680
food i get like a bloated stomach yeah i get digestion issues and and i yeah no dead ass poison
00:32:59.600
i'm vegan yeah if i ever eat because because obviously i've grown up on processed food i've grown up with
00:33:05.440
meat you know and you know fish and all that kind of thing so when i go back to eating those kind
00:33:12.480
of foods yeah it does it affects me yeah that's my body i can yeah i went to i just went to the
00:33:19.440
united states and every time i go back to america i just have to eat chick-fil-a i just have to eat
00:33:25.120
chick-fil-a but i eat it i eat a breakfast i'll eat like the chick-fil-a chicken sandwich or i eat the
00:33:30.000
or the breakfast biscuit or whatever and then my stomach i look like i'm three months pregnant like it
00:33:34.560
just bloats me up and i'm miserable for the rest of the day you're bloated you know what my trick
00:33:39.840
is for me for that if i do eat something and i i know i'm bloated i have a a waist trainer that i wear
00:33:46.080
and i'm not if i if i know i want to eat something my waist trainer is in my bag can we talk about the
00:33:53.920
health of that then we're talking about health let's let's explore what what waist trainers do for
00:34:01.200
people and two people yeah right because waist trainers you know they used to be used for posture
00:34:06.080
correction and you have like uh you know post-surgery garments like farha yes but if you are just putting
00:34:12.240
on a waist trainer and let's say you're wearing it for extended periods of time because you're super
00:34:16.800
committed to having a snatched waist what is that doing to your organs well i've been doing it for five
00:34:21.440
years you know honestly i just i've been wearing it for five years i just can't see waist trainers
00:34:31.920
being as big of a problem as obesity no i'm not saying yes i'm not saying this but no no and i'm
00:34:37.040
saying i think that's why we focus on obesity a lot more is because it's just a way bigger problem
00:34:41.440
um i you guys would always clown i'm so tired of the uk clowning on america for being overweight
00:34:46.800
because i looked up the stats and it's not that different but us is massive us is massive but i
00:34:55.600
will say this it's like it's like okay i think we're like 70 percent overweight and you guys are
00:35:00.480
like 60 and like it's like we've got we've got but i don't i don't i think they're in the hillbilly
00:35:07.040
sides of of england because like in london i don't know i i was expecting to see a bunch of fatties here
00:35:12.400
i see but i see gorgeous good women as well women here i think i think it's because everybody's
00:35:16.800
walking all the time here you know what i mean that's like when i first moved yeah australians
00:35:21.760
are pretty fat like i i was like i drove everywhere in australia yeah i moved here four months 10 kilos
00:35:28.480
gone and i'm walking and i wasn't i didn't change my diet nothing everything was the same 25 percent of
00:35:35.280
adults in england are obese it's like isn't that isn't that terrible that's like that's not bad
00:35:40.960
because like we're american like well that's not bad because we got 40 in the states
00:35:48.160
we are 40 i know the fat stats i know the fat stats i got in trouble so i'll tell you ladies something i
00:35:54.640
recently got in trouble right because i i like i trolled chats once in a while and there was a there was a
00:35:59.520
girl that was on there was a girl that was on a show and no disrespect to her it is what it is but
00:36:05.440
you know she was i mean objectively speaking she was a little bit on the chubbier side and i just wrote
00:36:11.600
who is this chubby woman and then i wrote ha ha ha and then i wrote she's she's about 40 pounds too
00:36:16.800
heavy for me my personal preference right yeah and she it was really really really really upset that i said
00:36:25.360
this and the reality is though like if you look at her like her weight is still what it is yeah but she
00:36:34.480
like vilified me and demonized she could have ran a marathon like i did
00:36:40.720
you know it's like it like so i went to america and basically a uh a girl got angry because
00:36:47.280
i said she was a little heavier than i preferred for my sexual preference
00:36:51.920
i think women were just being offended by that though no but how did you say sure how did you
00:36:58.480
say what was the context i just told you the context i don't think it matters how he says it i think as
00:37:03.200
women were too soft and we need to get thicker skin and especially if he's making fun of something that
00:37:08.640
you can change because we make fun of short men all the time and until we stop doing that yeah yeah until we
00:37:15.680
stop doing that we have no right to tell men what they can and can't prefer but it was like it was
00:37:21.840
it was a peak america experience too because basically i went to america and a fat girl got
00:37:27.200
mad at me because she was fat well that's just like you know because if it was if there was no
00:37:32.960
and there was no truth in that you weren't a bit of angry as she was did you trigger her anyway oh she
00:37:38.000
was super triggered but did you trigger her what did you do we need to at least hear this i wrote
00:37:44.960
those three things in the chat that's all i did sometimes sometimes the truth needs to be told some
00:37:49.280
people need yes and the other thing i don't understand is like celebrities like lizzo will
00:37:56.240
lead with their weight yes and that's what she's leading with because she's in these super scantily like
00:38:02.320
she's wearing basically nothing and that's what she's leading with and then she gets mad when
00:38:06.560
when people comment on her weight adele was overweight nobody commented on it also because
00:38:11.040
she didn't lead with it until she lost it then they commented yeah and then they said that she
00:38:17.440
might have not been well when she lost the weight yeah that's like fat amy as well like she's known
00:38:22.320
as fat amy but like she's lost all that weight and she looks amazing are you talking about perfect
00:38:29.040
that was from walking yeah all she did was walk and even lizzo she wore like a thong to a basketball game
00:38:35.120
with kids but i think that's a separate thing she should have just covered up you look at her
00:38:40.640
instagram she knows kids follow her it looks like soft core porn it literally does and it's like it's
00:38:47.520
like if an instagram model leads with her body and men call her a
00:38:53.600
yeah yeah if you lead with like if an instagram even a thin one it's like an instagram model she's
00:38:59.120
wearing nothing and then people call her a while you're leading with that so let me ask you a
00:39:02.960
question then so i'm sitting here i'm wearing i don't know what this is called but it doesn't have
00:39:07.360
a boob tube there we go i don't know my fashion so if i had a smaller chest
00:39:15.200
people probably wouldn't pick up on the fact that i'm wearing a boob tube right but because i have
00:39:20.480
breasts and they are quite large someone might go oh she's got big boobs and she isn't she dressed a
00:39:25.840
bit funnily like she's putting her weight out there am i putting my weight out there or am i just wearing
00:39:31.520
clothes i mean i would say you're putting your boobs out there like if you have them out yeah are you
00:39:36.080
putting your boobs out there i would say no because i'm not built the same as you okay so it's subjective
00:39:42.080
based on what we can see so if you can't see my boobs and we can see yours am i leading with my
00:39:47.440
weight based on what i've put onto it i wouldn't say you're leading with your weight i'd say that
00:39:51.280
like your boobs are very like they're out yeah they are lizzo is way more sexualized than you are
00:39:56.800
honestly absolutely is yeah we're not saying that we're not saying that but one point is valid though
00:40:01.120
if you see a woman walking down the street in that top with your size breasts compared to someone with
00:40:06.880
a 32 double a you are not going to look at that woman in the same way
00:40:11.680
same way but i think life isn't fair i'm tall i'll tell you a story when i was in high school
00:40:23.200
i got kicked out of homecoming because i had like a day to find my volleyball dress and i couldn't find
00:40:28.240
one that fit me because i just waited too long and so it was way too short and they sent me home
00:40:33.200
and i could have whined and been like oh poor me no like i waited till the last minute and that was the
00:40:38.720
that was the hand down but there's an in there's in regards to like you know like what sophie said
00:40:44.560
you know sophie right yeah yeah so sophie said earlier like she just ignores guys that are like
00:40:49.120
five foot five like i'm the same way when i see a woman's a cup i'm like i don't see anything here like
00:40:53.920
you know and they and they did a they did a they did a study too like the way women like disproportionately
00:41:01.280
desire a man that is super tall because like tall men are really really short a small percentage of the
00:41:07.840
the population that's the same way guys want women with big breasts did you know that i like the
00:41:13.840
big breasts just like because they did a lot of um data based upon men's preferences and then like
00:41:19.440
the guys who are ordering sex dolls and the guys who are ordering sex dolls the average breast size
00:41:25.520
they wanted was american d cup or larger wow you know i'm a boot man myself too i'm old school i don't
00:41:33.120
this whole new ass thing i'm not about it i'm a weird one i'm a weird one put it out there
00:41:40.160
you know but that's but you know what's so interesting people would call you misogynistic
00:41:43.920
for that preference i mean you don't chat gpt has me listed as a misogynist
00:41:52.480
i have a question on on preferences so if i said hey guys men don't like
00:41:58.320
old fat single mothers is that offensive to you
00:42:03.840
no but if they don't they don't there's no old fat single mother's hair that category
00:42:08.880
it might be offensive well i i would want to know why what's what's because men just don't typically
00:42:14.080
pick women that are older their their options go down on dating apps but men don't typically pick
00:42:20.000
women that are fatter their options also go wait wait wait okay men also don't typically pick
00:42:25.360
women with kids other options go down okay so i'm i'm i i have children although they're adults
00:42:40.560
you're sexy though they're different these those are probably you
00:42:44.240
you're clearly an exception to the rule those rare cases
00:42:47.280
so who are we speaking about here non-sexy women i'm just talking about no i'm talking about it
00:42:54.800
we all carry sex appeal sexiness differently it says whether you're not you would you do you think
00:42:59.600
do you think you're equally like do you think if a guy had you at 20 with no kids versus you now with
00:43:05.360
four kids who are they picking four grandkids i think just three kids oh sorry sorry three kids four
00:43:10.720
grandkids right probably now but not because of the way that i look but because i'm very much a healed
00:43:15.920
person of the person i used to be the way you are the way i am now and who i am i i'm telling you
00:43:20.560
most men will just just for sex only for sex only for sex only sex only well then obviously more now
00:43:25.760
there we go i i get that majority because again it's eye candy isn't it we all want a bit of eye candy
00:43:32.240
yeah i you know men think sex first relationship after i got a friend i got a friend i got a friend
00:43:40.320
i'll push back on that so there's two sides to the men who like older women it's a little dark
00:43:48.960
so one side is like they may have been you know touched by the older woman when she was younger
00:43:57.840
or or older women is all he can get so he fetishizes it he's like i like interesting because i know a few
00:44:06.800
people um on social media myself that prefer older women your your male friends prefer older women
00:44:16.800
some of them how old are they are these guys like good-looking chads are they like good-looking
00:44:21.280
chads he's good looking like i would go there with some of them yes is his mother president his life
00:44:27.280
i don't know that much you're my friend older women sometimes want younger men as well
00:44:34.880
for example i'm 43 yeah so you don't look at the guys my age i'm younger necessarily look that great
00:44:43.040
so i would not really pretend like i would not really have a choice my choice would not be older men
00:44:49.360
but if i had the choice i would go for younger because i personally believe that younger men
00:44:55.920
just look better than the guys my age look better or perform better
00:45:04.160
it's actually a normal um like that happens a lot older women with younger men but it's because
00:45:09.840
men don't have as much leverage on the sexual marketplace so men like their their peak if you
00:45:15.200
look at dating apps where they have the most options it's like roughly around like 35 to 37
00:45:20.640
where women have the most options roughly around like 22. yeah yeah imagine i for me i i'm the men
00:45:27.840
that i attract now i mean there's a variation in ages but a majority they're not they're not even as
00:45:34.480
old as my older son younger right they are i know i know right that's the point because they don't have
00:45:41.120
as many options when men are young they can't they can't sleep with as many women they have
00:45:44.960
less options so it's like the older women have less options and the younger men have less options
00:45:49.520
so they tend to go together yeah where it's like the the 35 year olds like typically date the younger
00:45:56.080
the younger women and i'm not saying like how am i like like i think the average age gap is like
00:46:00.960
like each prefer like five to seven years difference but but it starts with looks and men find 22 year
00:46:06.800
olds the most i will say this too at right now because with the way society is structured like men are just
00:46:13.440
being slammed with sexual images non-stop like the moment we wake up like how about some sex you
00:46:19.920
know yeah and so this has caused male thirst to be at an all-time high yeah and so dudes are like a you
00:46:28.160
know when guys get good with game and you know getting with a bunch of women that sex that ejaculation
00:46:34.080
that hunt is all based upon dopamine and so you got these guys are just searching for that next dopamine
00:46:40.880
hit you know what i mean and then also i don't think we've ever had a period in time where older
00:46:46.320
women were doing their best to stay sexy you know what i mean i think like back in the day they'd be
00:46:53.360
like you know yeah you know you have like the j-lo's and you got all these different women i don't keep
00:46:59.200
up celebrities but not j-lo's the only one i know but like you know they're they're older women in their
00:47:03.600
40s and 50s right that are like trying to be super sexy so when you're sexy you know guys are dogs
00:47:11.920
guys are fucking dogs and so they're gonna come after you yeah but i also think it doesn't really
00:47:17.440
count until you're until you're married really or in a long-term relationship with kids because that
00:47:22.560
seems to be the new marriage nowadays because i think a lot of times as women will mistake sexual
00:47:27.200
attention for relationship attention yes and they're not the same that's huge yeah because a lot of
00:47:32.160
women they'll conflate the fact that a million dudes are in their dms right and like hollering at
00:47:37.760
them but i would say 99 of those dudes they're gonna you a couple times and disappear yeah and then
00:47:44.160
you're gonna be like oh i thought you liked me i'm guilty about like people do it majority of girls are
00:47:51.120
for women that want relationships where is where are the best places to look see see you know what
00:47:56.160
here's the thing i know i'm like a red pill guy and i'm supposed to like on women because that's
00:48:00.080
like what the majority of people do but that even for me is something that i have been trying to
00:48:06.080
answer the question to i can't tell these women where to find good men but i can tell them where
00:48:11.920
not to find them where we're not any dating app agree i'm not on any of those at all anymore any dating
00:48:19.680
app bars any if he has any kind of drug addiction no yes right church used to be a stable thing but
00:48:27.200
honestly i would say this the guys that you ignore are probably going to be some of the better
00:48:31.520
relationships yeah the guys that don't even show up on your radar yeah because it's just it is hard
00:48:37.360
because for guys you know when mainstream media and mainstream culture is just telling girls by default
00:48:46.160
to be sluts to be whores to sleep around right it's really hard so that's the conundrum we have right now
00:48:53.360
it's like good women are usually trying so hard to find good men and good men are trying so hard to
00:49:01.360
find good women because for me too after i became successful it's just like how i don't even know
00:49:07.040
like where to like find decent women because like women who like you for your clout or for your money
00:49:12.080
or all those things you know it's just like this is treacherous like she's after me
00:49:17.760
yeah before things that i have not me dating once you have a following is so different oh dude i have
00:49:24.160
trauma i want to go to a monastery like because because it's just it's so for so i'm talking from a
00:49:30.560
guy's perspective it's so hard to one vet a woman and find out the truth of who she is see i like pam she
00:49:41.600
knows and and then on the other side of the coin it's the same thing for ladies because you're
00:49:47.200
blinded by your own attraction like i like this person well they did this like this means they
00:49:52.000
like me but then like you know when you go through a situation where you thought someone loved you you
00:49:56.400
thought they liked you a lot and then you find out that yeah they didn't and then they leave quickly
00:50:01.520
when they don't want to resolve conflict or whatever then you're just sitting there like damn i just
00:50:05.360
really don't know and i went through that i i literally went through that someone who i thought
00:50:10.560
was on my team um who i i you know i gave myself to and we thought i thought we were on the same page
00:50:18.240
and then you later want to find out it was it wasn't that it was not being reciprocated yeah and and that's
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where you have to draw every piece of strength what happened uh without going into too much detail um wrong show
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you gotta go i put a lot of trust into someone whom uh when i just when i began communicating with him
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um of what i had previously been through which allowed me to drop my guard um and i was happy to
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do so because um he made me feel safe okay um and i think for him it may have been what he could get
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uh but i think the worst thing for me was that there was no resolution it was a straight cut
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off i mean when it when things kind of sort of came about and um you know when things really
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mattered and we should have been communicating we should have been speaking about it speaking
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about the very small issue it was a very very small issue um what issue was that it was a very small
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issue um it literally there was no conversation like we did we didn't get to speak about what the
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problem was did you leave or did he leave he did oh so he left and then you just never heard and i
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never heard was he younger no he was older so can i say that emotional labor it does not come with a
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marker i don't think that you can you know be on a dating app or be in church or wherever see someone
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meet them be on a date with them and say yes this person is willing and committed to put in emotional
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labor to make this work you only know that when you come up to those those situations that require
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i actually don't really think men should care about our emotional needs no i don't think she
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means emotional needs i'm thinking like you know when you get to a point in a relationship where there's
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like a a breaking point yeah where the both of you are gonna have to endure through a that wasn't even
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i'm not even trying to be yeah yeah but like when you have to like endure through hardship absolutely you
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know some people they just give up yeah yeah and it's and it's detrimental because i've i've been
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that i've been that person who didn't want to give up i was like you know and i wanted to be committed
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to the situation when your partner gives up and then that's just like and unfortunately like how
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that's just like i just don't understand how that like works because you're not a because you're not a
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dirtbag that's why because when i hear emotional labor like i i always hear that i don't really hear that
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term use then i usually hear it when it's like my partner's not meeting my emotional needs that's
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what i hear when i hear emotional no i think she's talking about because there's no what do you mean
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i would say that the emotional labor is any situation that you come up against as a partnership
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where there requires some either compromise or you two have to sit down and have a difficult
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discussion about you know do the kids go to school here or there or you know you know it's just anything
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i think i think the man should automatically decide do you i do i do i believe in i believe
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in traditional relationships which are a bit different than like 50 50. so which which basically
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like a lot of times women we want the guy to pay for everything we want we want to like a traditional
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outcome where he pays for us he leads he's masculine but what you're supposed to give up with that is
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it depends on what you're supposed to give up when people tell us to sell us
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now say that's going to be able to use other people tell us of course what we want to do
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you know so we don't collect дополн ה and do everything that you don't realize that we'll