00:17:02.000i kind of agree with him like the minimum 50 i'll push it to like i don't know he said 15 15 15 15
00:17:07.440sorry 15. jesus christ oh my goodness the way you just turned red right now
00:17:14.960you just 15 yeah like 15 20. okay pushing up
00:17:20.160i would say between 15 and 20. okay so if you know for a fact that your friend say you guys have
00:17:30.400been going out like out on the town or whatever but you do realize can i just say something there's
00:17:35.760people that pass the point of going out and giving a shit about friends you have to give a
00:17:40.720shit about yourself i'm talking about from my own personal i'm giving you all the benefit of the
00:17:44.160doubt here that you're fairly good people and you would like absolutely i can be i can be a good
00:17:47.600person i don't need validation to have other people around me to give me that validation right
00:17:52.560but if you're surrounded by good people you trust their opinion but when you're good enough you trust
00:17:57.120your own opinion no i completely disagree with that i agree but that's why i'm a bit older than you no
00:18:02.000offense but when you reach a certain level where you actually understand it you have that confidence
00:18:07.040not in an arrogant way no because i'm i'm i'm not saying i've gradually jermaine become no i still
00:18:13.120disagree with you it's fine my point is is that if you are surrounded by good people you're gonna
00:18:18.880trust their opinions so for example before the others so you just brought up age but you just brought up
00:18:24.000your point of age yes okay so if your mother says something to you you're gonna trust your opinion
00:18:30.400before your mother's no i trust my mother's opinion because she's out of age so why would i trust
00:18:34.480the opinion of myself knowing i'm 20 years old and 30 years old there's a big difference right but you
00:18:39.360just said that once you get to a certain age you trust your opinion yeah for anyone else exactly
00:18:45.360but you don't reach that confidence until you are a certain age that you understand that
00:18:49.600i didn't understand that when i was 23 or 25. right but you understand what i'm saying i understand that
00:18:54.320you're saying you didn't understand that 23 and now i'm 30 now i know my own opinion and i trust my opinion
00:18:59.680then i didn't that's the difference so you can never be wrong she said that's my point that's
00:19:04.480my point that you're essentially saying that once you reach a certain point of experience yes that you
00:19:09.520you only trust your own feelings and opinions of the world how are you gonna learn and progress in
00:19:15.920life if you think that when you reach a certain point you know everything as a starter point of
00:19:19.520course you're gonna have friends and family but you're limited right that's my point that's exactly
00:19:23.920what i'm saying you're supposed to be surrounded by people who you can trust that they have your best
00:19:28.320interests at heart when they say something my no only reason my rectum i'm not disagreeing what
00:19:33.280you're saying i'm just saying you're leading on more towards but it's having validation from external
00:19:37.920factors no no no you presumed that and you inferred that onto what i said that's not what i'm saying
00:19:42.000we actually agree validation is different from from trusting other people's opinion yeah validation is
00:19:48.720not seeking advice from people validation is something different this is why i asked for a metric on the
00:19:54.640topic of cause because the question that i'm trying to pose to you guys is are you gonna tell
00:19:59.520your friend if she's being a whore hey i'm not gonna lie i feel like the same thing as i feel like
00:20:05.520the numbers that everyone gave out was a way of separating themselves from whoredom i could be
00:20:12.000potentially wrong i could be potentially wrong but i feel like what everyone presumed on this stage and
00:20:18.880again i'm talking to both men and women on this stage so please don't be upset i think everyone
00:20:25.040gave numbers that made themselves look good i agree because i i personally will have said five even
00:20:32.320though i know i'm way past that number because i'm i'm i don't i don't have this hubris to not be able
00:20:38.480to see where i'm wrong as well just because i say five is the number doesn't mean i can't accept the
00:20:44.880fact that i am well past that number but that's a problem a lot of women have even though once
00:20:49.920they are past something they they they seem to almost think like if they agree to the truth then
00:20:55.920they are almost shooting themselves in the foot so i get what you're saying see that i get what you're
00:21:00.240saying hey it goes it goes back to what i said at the start which is accountability can you ask what
00:21:05.760you just wanted to ask me again would you tell your friend if she's being whore yeah same thing as fat
00:21:10.720because i think obviously the conversation went somewhere else absolutely i think it comes from a
00:21:15.440concerned place but again us being delusional within ourselves we can then be delusional within other
00:21:22.960friends right from from like a female perspective now when do you become true is it more easier for us
00:21:29.600to be truthful towards ourselves or towards others because we can be in denial more towards ourselves than
00:21:34.880actually like son or the friends family whatever whoever's around us yeah both both what do you
00:21:42.000think the would you tell them yeah yeah 100 just has anyone actually been in a situation where they've
00:21:50.000had to tell before you call cap yeah i have actually been in a situation that how did that go how did that
00:21:56.640go like obviously again i wasn't straight out like you're a whore no but i was like look you might be one
00:22:03.360you've been moving you've been moving you've been moving a bit mad lately like how do you even say
00:22:08.400it by the way wait wait wait wait wait wait you're moving mad a bit like this come from a place
00:22:13.600concern i'm not judging you in any sense like this is at the end of the day this is what you want
00:22:16.960to do but i'm just telling you and how did that friend react she was like she took it well like she
00:22:21.200wasn't upset she knew that i was coming from a good place she knew that i wasn't sat there trying like
00:22:24.960trying to you know shame her like did she change her behavior no no so you told her she was spreading
00:22:32.800community cheeks and she just accepted it like that and just kept spreading community cheeks
00:22:36.640if they if they choose to do that that's not her fault that's not my fault i'm not i'm not saying
00:22:40.880it is i just wanted to i just wanted some more clarification you told her she was spreading
00:22:44.240community cheeks and she just did more and she she's still considered what she wanted to that's
00:22:48.560the same telling someone oh you're you're getting weight you're gaining weight and then still
00:22:51.600treating to ek of c and mcdonald's i need some more power to them man hey big up them boy there
00:22:55.600do you get me yeah well what's what's the issue with this thing where people say um i'm not judging you
00:23:00.640oh i don't want them to feel like you are absolutely supposed to judge your friends like
00:23:06.320what's what's this thing that women are so obsessed with oh i don't want to judge her i don't want to
00:23:11.440and it goes back to what i was saying women are not really friends with each other not real because
00:23:15.520the reality is among among my guy friends i i don't have a lot of guy friends but the very few friends
00:23:20.640i have if i'm doing some madness they're absolutely going to call me out on it and judge me for how many
00:23:26.400years have you had them possible way ever how many years you had them for for like for a very long
00:23:31.520time so they're absolutely going to judge me and tell me bro what the hell are you doing get your
00:23:37.680right in fact that there are times where and this is sometimes this among guys if if when when we're
00:23:43.120coming up as kids and want to go out obviously we're going out to go and meet girls i know if you
00:23:47.040dress in some weird way you're not going out with us bro go back home and change bro like go back home
00:23:52.880and change girls will allow their friends to come yeah girls girls won't girls won't tell their
00:23:57.120friends i'm in the mini dress that is not meaning it takes the boys the boys will even take you back
00:24:03.840to your house and wait outside for you make sure you change but that's how listen i think friendship
00:24:09.040has changed completely like it depends on your culture no no i don't think women have the same
00:24:12.800friendships as men well that's why i get along with like personally like i have more guy friends that
00:24:17.520i get along with because it's more simple black and white children women are very over complicated why
00:24:22.560did you not do this why did you not do that that like the most simplest dumbest little things and
00:24:26.960i understand that because we're wired unfortunately like that but even friendships these days regardless
00:24:32.480of men or women what is what makes somebody a friend these days because everybody walks with uh
00:24:39.760intent to gain do you know let me ask you a little question yeah because i can i can almost guarantee if i
00:24:44.560ask every man in this in this room right here they can say at least on one hand they've probably got maybe
00:24:49.200two to three friends that they've known for like the longest if you've had the same friend
00:24:52.720how many 10 years you're not real in my opinion pardon what huh that's what what are you talking about
00:25:01.440more more than like a group a group sorry not just one individual if you've got the same group of
00:25:06.080people let's say five to ten people average you've got the same five to ten people and you're still rolling and doing the same shit you've not grown in my opinion yeah one or two people they've known for over 10 years 15 years maybe but if you've got the same people you've got the same people you've got the same
00:25:17.600but if you've got the same people you've not grown my life it just it just sounds like you lot are bad friends no no no no let her explain why and then i'll let you guys go
00:25:25.840why why why why do you why do you hold that opinion because every single individual is unique every
00:25:30.640single person is going to have different interests so you're going to naturally divert to a different
00:25:35.680grow grow apart in it grow apart but that doesn't mean a bad thing it's not like i'm doing better than you
00:25:41.120but we all go through life lessons at different points in life right you might have more trauma at a
00:25:46.560younger age i might have more trauma at a later age we're all designed differently our paths are going to
00:25:51.040be different if you've got the same motherfuckers around you for and you've got more than five of them
00:25:55.680in your group my love you've not you've not achieved anything in life but what the less people that you
00:26:01.520have no there's less no no i'm sorry but reality reality is those five people are not going to be doing and
00:26:07.600thinking the same way as you there's always going to be one person that's a bit more advanced or
00:26:10.960walking in a different direction in my opinion if you're all sugarcoating crap to be like yeah yeah
00:26:16.240you're good you're good to one another you've you've not evolved in my opinion the reality is you don't
00:26:20.880really like you can't even really have like 10 real friends anyways so that your point is no but when
00:26:27.600you're 15 years old and when you're 30 years old you go through a shift if you've got the same friends at 20
00:26:33.120and the same individuals at 30 you can you can have you can have one or two lifelong friends
00:26:38.320yeah one or two yeah but you've got five she's talking about a group group yeah but no one was
00:26:42.240talking about who has a group of friends for me life anyway i call i call cap i've got the same
00:26:48.400group of friends six people for about from since we was in primary school and we've all grown
00:26:55.360who's jealous of who and who's done more than nobody who's nobody giving of who hold on hold on
00:27:01.040nobody's jealous i'd love to see one of you do you know what get all your friends let's sit down
00:27:07.040do you want do you want to know what i'll tell you uh first of all none of us are jealous of each
00:27:10.320other because we hold each other accountable one minute we all hold each other accountable
00:27:14.480right if one of my bridges are sitting down either overweight broke or your hairline isn't being done by the
00:27:22.800correct bar but i'm going to tell you blood we're brethren we're mandem we're far gone from the
00:27:30.480days where we used to be on the playground and we used to back each other and we used to do this kind
00:27:34.560of stuff we're big men now but why don't you want to be sitting with somebody that's done more and
00:27:38.640bigger than you to get influence instead of sitting down with the same people first of all that's a
00:27:44.240woman's worth this i'm saying first of all what your business first of all what you're talking about
00:27:51.440is what the person can do for me i'm not worrying about what my bridges can do for me exactly my
00:27:55.920bridges are here to be my bridges if i'm doing something that's an absolute madness i expect you
00:28:00.480as one of my bridges to what the whole conversation was about we were talking about if a real friend
00:28:05.360will tell you if you're fat or ugly or whatever the hell it is to say it in your face but then if
00:28:10.880you're not achieving your full is potential isn't that the same thing oh i'm not gonna lie i don't know
00:28:16.240what question you just asked the question that we all we were talking about was would you tell your
00:28:20.800friend if they're fat would you tell i said that i said that from yes long time ago so we can we can
00:28:25.360entire that same thing as somebody knowing your full potential but i might be intimidated but i might
00:28:31.120not tell you what your full potential is to see you grow so that sounds like that person isn't your
00:28:35.040brethren and that's not the people that's not the people that i'm talking about no no no no no what
00:28:40.080you're talking about is you're talking about your friendships from your point of view no no no no
00:28:43.520what time what time one time okay in general you're talking about everybody else's friendships from
00:28:48.000everybody else's point of view that has nothing of people everyone's self-centered
00:28:56.560no one's real with one another this is my point sorry no one's real even friends aren't real with
00:29:00.480one another they're gonna allow me to finish before you cut me off baby no one quiet you off carry on
00:29:04.560talking don't don't you don't play that don't play you cut me off you cut me off like three times
00:29:08.320victim mate you cut me off like three times when i was actually trying to make a point
00:29:11.520well i think she likes you know probably you know it's a bit crazy i'm i'm not single anyway
00:29:16.080anyway what i'm trying to break sounds like a problem sounds like a your problem anyway
00:29:22.720anyway what i'm trying to say is it sounds like you don't have real friends it sounds like you
00:29:26.720don't have real friends because again no matter the situation that i'm in with the mandem and i'm
00:29:30.800pretty sure 10 years old babe but okay we're gonna sit down and we're gonna wait for adults
00:29:38.000to have some decorum because clearly when someone is making a point nobody can just sit back and
00:29:45.520relax i'm looking at everyone i'm looking i'm not just looking over there didn't i look over you over
00:29:51.360here so why are you making things up can you just listen to the point as opposed all right all right
00:29:58.400let me let me let me allow her to finish we can't it's clear her body count is over 15 but that's the
00:30:03.440only reason why she gave the out like what we're doing i'm giving you that doesn't that doesn't
00:30:09.920mean anything to me i'm giving you respect i mean give me the same respect than yours i'm giving you
00:30:14.080respect give me the same respect it's simple guys guys guys i allowed you to finish allow a man to
00:30:19.600finish do you have that lack of the quorum we'll be doing hello can we stop can you let him finish
00:30:24.960thank you i have i didn't know you didn't you cut me off like five times just allow it man
00:30:29.920he's speaking you just have to say something just let him finish we're not against each other we're
00:30:33.200just making points like we don't need to go long story short listen if you've if you've got over a
00:30:39.120certain amount of friends and you can't handle those people it sounds like a you problem i've had the
00:30:43.120same five to six friends for about 20 years we all went to the same primary school nobody in my
00:30:48.320friendship group is fat nobody in my friendship group is broke nobody in my friendship group is a
00:30:53.680deadbeat dad nobody in my friendship group is just a deadbeat in general do you want to know why
00:30:58.720because i don't allow the mandem around me to be degenerate i don't allow the mandem to sit down
00:31:03.920and be dickheads and be doing things that i just genuinely don't accept for myself that's why i'm
00:31:08.400saying our friendships are different you see i'm saying you're turning around to me and tell me oh
00:31:13.120if you have a certain amount of friends over 20 no you're chatting it just has to get a bad friend
00:31:17.440but i've had the same versions from since i came just just after i came to this country and i went to
00:31:22.560school at like nine years old i've had the same regions and we all hold each other accountable
00:31:28.880i think so how the hell are you gonna come come and turn around to me and tell me what are you
00:31:32.320talking about i hear what you're saying i think it's really interesting to to highlight that perhaps
00:31:37.040there is a difference between male friendships and female friendships and this is definitely
00:31:42.320something i've seen i mean we've all established that we can agree that there is a degree of lying that
00:31:46.320goes on in female friendships females like as many of you know i was just banned on tick tock and we
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