JustPearlyThings - August 10, 2023


She Would Let Her Child Become TRANS


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7 minutes

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1,908

Sentence count

164

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4

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Toxicity

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In this episode, we discuss the idea of children being able to make up their own minds and whether or not this is a good or bad thing. We also discuss if a 13 year old should be allowed to have their own mind when it comes to sex.

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00:00:00.000 A stranger spends 10 hours a day with your kid
00:00:02.120 or the mother spends 10 hours a day with your kid? 1.00
00:00:04.040 I don't statistically mean like...
00:00:04.760 But you're not just spending 10 hours a day with an adult.
00:00:06.900 You're spending 10 hours a day with people your age,
00:00:09.360 people that you can relate to.
00:00:10.800 I'm just going to repeat the question.
00:00:13.380 Is what is better,
00:00:15.020 a mother spending 10 hours a day with her child
00:00:17.480 or a stranger spending 10 hours a day with the same child?
00:00:20.620 It's not going to be a stranger because you're in school.
00:00:22.480 I think her.
00:00:23.420 It is a stranger.
00:00:24.360 I think school is good.
00:00:28.020 It's not black and white.
00:00:29.220 I don't think school is good at all.
00:00:31.260 I think the system has failed a long time ago.
00:00:33.540 Her whole point is that you're allowing a stranger 1.00
00:00:35.440 to have more influence over your kid than you do.
00:00:37.700 And we see it.
00:00:38.940 You see it constantly where these kids come out
00:00:41.080 super left when they come from conservative homes.
00:00:43.400 It depends on how much input you actually put into your child.
00:00:47.700 But what are you going to get with four hours a day?
00:00:49.720 I think it all comes down to how you raise your children.
00:00:52.580 I really do.
00:00:54.080 And they have their own mind.
00:00:55.900 And they're going to get exposed to the real world eventually.
00:00:58.540 And it is down to them to make their own decision. 0.99
00:01:01.260 You don't want yourself as an ignorant place. 0.98
00:01:02.660 That's how my parents raised me. 0.98
00:01:03.960 And I think I turned out all right.
00:01:05.260 You turned out modern.
00:01:06.720 And if you're happy with that, I respect that.
00:01:08.800 And I think if you want that in your life.
00:01:10.320 What do you mean by modern?
00:01:11.340 You keep saying modern as in like.
00:01:13.140 As Pearl said, you're classed as the modern woman.
00:01:15.540 But I understand you're still saying you've got traditional values and whatnot.
00:01:18.840 But I just, that's why.
00:01:20.260 But I'm happy to be a stay-at-home mum.
00:01:22.960 Like.
00:01:23.520 How can you be a stay-at-home mum if you want a career? 0.83
00:01:25.640 You can't have everything.
00:01:26.760 Like, it don't make no sense.
00:01:28.040 How can you have both?
00:01:28.860 I'm happy to win the lottery.
00:01:30.800 You can't have both?
00:01:32.180 Well, I mean, I.
00:01:33.540 My career is like always going to be there.
00:01:35.880 That's the thing.
00:01:36.580 Even when I'm a mum, I might take a small break off TV and stuff.
00:01:40.720 But I will be back.
00:01:41.720 That's a long career.
00:01:42.980 That's her whole point though.
00:01:44.520 Is that you're a modern woman.
00:01:45.900 It doesn't, but it doesn't mean you're, you're a bad woman.
00:01:48.440 It just means you're a modern.
00:01:49.680 And she doesn't like the modern mindset.
00:01:51.700 Okay.
00:01:52.240 Fair enough.
00:01:53.980 I have a question about what you said about children being able to make up their own minds.
00:02:00.900 I, I kind of disagree with that.
00:02:03.220 And the question that I want to ask is if children can make up their own minds, like Pearl said,
00:02:08.600 there's kids that are coming from conservative families and coming out of schools, leftists.
00:02:12.860 If a kid can have their own mind, what do you think about a 13 year old boy, your son, for
00:02:17.660 example, coming home and saying, mom, I want to be a girl.
00:02:21.200 I'm absolutely fine with it.
00:02:22.720 So you would let your 13 year old son go through a sexual transition because if they have their
00:02:27.360 own minds, they can make their own consent and they don't need yours.
00:02:29.640 If this is how they are feeling, I don't know the, the depths of this, but like if he
00:02:35.180 is feeling like that or she is feeling like that, then it's something that we're obviously
00:02:39.040 going to sit down and talk about and look into.
00:02:40.780 But if they have their own minds, they don't need to sit down and talk about that.
00:02:43.220 Just like a modern woman, could you still, you're abiding by modern principles that are 1.00
00:02:47.240 out today?
00:02:47.960 Well, I am modern then, if that's the case.
00:02:50.000 If my son came home from school one day and said to me, look, mom, I'll be honest with
00:02:53.160 you.
00:02:53.380 I, I think I'm gay.
00:02:55.220 I would take it on and I'd be open. 0.82
00:02:56.860 What if your, what if your, what if your son came home and said, I think I'm black?
00:03:02.900 Well, I mean, obviously I would, I mean, obviously I'd have to sit him down and be like.
00:03:07.620 So you don't think if he thought he was the opposite gender, you might need to sit him 1.00
00:03:11.860 down and tell him that he's, he's not.
00:03:13.560 Well, that's what I said.
00:03:14.080 I mean, I would listen to him, sit him down and have a conversation with him, but this
00:03:17.980 all comes down to the way that you raise your children.
00:03:20.320 But I'm saying, but you, you said they have their own mind.
00:03:22.060 So why doesn't he make up his own decision?
00:03:23.820 Why would you have to sit him down?
00:03:26.240 What do you mean?
00:03:26.880 Sorry.
00:03:27.220 Because you said, you said they have their own mind.
00:03:29.480 Yeah.
00:03:29.700 As in they can, they're making their own decision, but I can still have an input and I can still talk
00:03:34.060 with him about it.
00:03:35.180 So if he wanted to change his gender, you'd let him? 1.00
00:03:38.840 No, of course not.
00:03:40.120 I would have a conversation with him.
00:03:41.740 I would find out like, what is this about?
00:03:43.860 Talk to me.
00:03:44.620 Like, what if, what if the teachers already had 10 conversations with him about this before
00:03:49.380 you?
00:03:50.760 And they're telling him that it's okay.
00:03:52.640 Yeah.
00:03:52.820 How much influence are you really going to have?
00:03:55.160 And I've seen this.
00:03:56.300 I have a younger sister.
00:03:57.900 It depends how young my child is.
00:04:00.360 That's yeah.
00:04:01.740 I mean, they give consent forms for this stuff.
00:04:05.320 Like, if they're going to have lessons about that, they give consent forms.
00:04:07.440 You can actually say you don't want your son in the room.
00:04:09.880 That's just delusional, because if my daughter goes to class and all her friends are doing
00:04:14.420 a certain lesson, when they go in the playground, kids are just innocent.
00:04:17.640 They're going to tell each other.
00:04:18.520 All going to tell each other.
00:04:19.340 But they'll do that regardless of the lesson.
00:04:20.500 No, but like, for example, my parents, you know, they were religious.
00:04:23.280 And I remember when I was younger, they got sent a letter about, oh, can we show kids
00:04:27.300 sex ed videos or whatever.
00:04:28.860 My parents actually said, no, we refuse.
00:04:30.620 There's just no way you're going to avoid it in the school system.
00:04:33.540 It's all about how you how you actually raise your children.
00:04:36.240 And you don't agree with that.
00:04:37.900 But you also don't know what the teacher's intentions are.
00:04:41.760 I mean, I have a friend that was like sexually assaulted by a teacher.
00:04:45.040 And that's the risk you're putting at your kid.
00:04:47.000 I sent my daughter to school and like she did two years and it didn't work.
00:04:51.700 And then when the COVID thing coming, the thing came in and that you couldn't like drop
00:04:57.440 your kid when you drop them at the gate and whatnot.
00:04:59.440 I just wasn't with that.
00:05:00.640 I don't like the idea of somebody being more empowered than me with my child, because that
00:05:04.940 then means they have more power over me and I'm supposed to be the mother.
00:05:08.920 It doesn't make sense.
00:05:10.160 Yeah.
00:05:10.260 But then where where does it sort of stop?
00:05:11.980 Where do you sort of draw the line?
00:05:13.200 Because, I mean, I don't know a pilot's intentions, for example.
00:05:16.540 I don't know his background.
00:05:17.780 He could be a psycho, but I still get on an aeroplane. 0.72
00:05:21.560 Can I ask one question, yeah? 0.94
00:05:24.300 Where a lot of these kids are going to sway, like we leave them to social media.
00:05:29.220 So there's not really one kid that doesn't have a phone, a tablet or whatever.
00:05:33.320 I limit my child to that.
00:05:34.760 You need to protect your children.
00:05:36.320 You should protect your children.
00:05:37.420 You can't just be dropping your children off the classes and people, children get abused
00:05:41.880 and all sorts.
00:05:42.380 You want to protect your child from the school environment?
00:05:44.260 Is that what you're saying?
00:05:44.820 I don't, I'm not with anything that the school system promotes.
00:05:47.600 Oh, I absolutely would.
00:05:49.320 I mean, I.
00:05:51.060 And do we even need the school system in society now?
00:05:53.800 No, we don't.
00:05:54.520 I feel like school teachers are out of date.
00:05:56.280 There was college, like, professors that have openly said things that discriminated against
00:06:00.580 men when I was in college.
00:06:02.480 Openly.
00:06:03.020 And like, there's no pushback.
00:06:04.440 But not everyone has the ability to homeschool their children.
00:06:07.740 I disagree.
00:06:08.240 Because you're saying you're intelligent, you can do that.
00:06:10.380 But not everyone.
00:06:11.280 You don't really need to be that intelligent.
00:06:12.780 And it's like, I could probably educate my daughter to a certain level, but there's
00:06:15.860 so much available to homeschool.
00:06:17.200 Really?
00:06:17.540 My brother's 15 years old.
00:06:18.720 He showed me his, like, GCSE maths test.
00:06:21.480 And I was like, what the hell?
00:06:23.060 And I have a degree.
00:06:24.080 Yeah, there's ways to do it, though.
00:06:25.260 It's hard.
00:06:25.780 You'd have to get a tutor and then come to the house or whatever way.
00:06:28.760 You've got more control and set and input on raising your child.
00:06:31.640 But traditional women would rather work hard at their children than for themselves. 1.00
00:06:36.260 It makes sense.
00:06:36.900 Yeah.
00:06:39.540 So what if your child, like, one day said, oh, I don't want to be homeschooled?
00:06:42.820 Would you, like, take in...
00:06:44.180 I never let my daughter stay out of the house. 1.00
00:06:46.480 I just don't like her staying out.
00:06:47.780 I let her stay at her cousin's because I had a family emergency.
00:06:50.100 She stayed there three days and she wanted to go to school.
00:06:53.200 So this is the effect of other children, I believe.
00:06:55.300 And I said, yeah, OK, you really want to go to school.
00:06:57.800 Within a couple of days, she goes, you know what, I don't want to go to school.
00:07:00.300 She sees school as a prison because it looks like a prison.
00:07:02.740 So that's my daughter's natural instinct of looking out of school.
00:07:06.220 OK, cool.
00:07:07.020 Well, that's interesting.
00:07:08.000 To be honest, most kids don't like school.
00:07:09.940 They don't.
00:07:10.340 My little brother hates school.
00:07:12.020 Because all they're doing is being prepared to go to work for eight hours a day.
00:07:15.280 What you were saying about, like, the amount of energy, obviously, like, a stranger, teacher,
00:07:19.480 whatever we want to call it, is putting into the child.
00:07:21.840 When I was in school, there was always, like, one or two moments, maybe, like, once every academic year.
00:07:27.000 Someone would call the teacher mum.
00:07:28.760 I don't think that's an accident.
00:07:29.800 I think that's just because there's someone in front of them, you know, for however many hours a day.
00:07:36.040 Like, it might be a silly point, but I don't know.
00:07:38.540 You've got a point.
00:07:39.880 I think I've even done that before.
00:07:41.140 I've done that before.
00:07:42.020 Because they're in front of you and they're technically your caregiver.
00:07:44.520 If you have a question, you ask them, you ask them, can I go to the toilet?
00:07:47.180 You talk to them in a way that you would a parent.
00:07:49.300 And then, like, you get these kids, oh, put their hand up mum, and then everyone laughs.
00:07:52.220 But it's like, I don't think that's an accident.
00:07:53.540 I think that's, you know, I feel like the schooling system, I agree, they want you to see these teachers.
00:07:58.480 But then I...