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- May 03, 2023
Single Mother GOT DESTROYED for Saying This
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Length
12 minutes
Words per Minute
220.35309
Word Count
2,825
Sentence Count
226
Misogynist Sentences
19
Hate Speech Sentences
10
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Do you think it's fair for women to expect monogamy
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if they have children from a previous guy?
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I mean, I think you should expect monogamy
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if the conversation hasn't been had otherwise.
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You know what I mean?
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Just generally.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It's more likely if you,
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I feel like if you've got children
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from a previous relationship,
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I think it's probably more likely
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that you're going to get cheated on
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because you're going to know that
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that person probably has less option
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to just walk away after that.
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It's more likely that they will try and work out
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if they've already got children from a past relationship.
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They don't necessarily want to lose that person
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that they've been in a relationship with.
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You know what I mean?
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So, yeah, I think that as long as there's honesty,
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then anything's possible.
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But without that, then, you know.
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And don't ever undermine the power and influence
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of a stepfather or a stepmother.
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I came from a single-parent family
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who had shouted at my mum.
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My dad ran away.
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And this man came into my life
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and he's the biggest blessing
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that's ever happened to me.
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So, like, honestly, don't,
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I know this is a random spur, sorry,
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it's just emotion speaking.
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It's the most important thing.
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It's the only thing that could potentially eclipse
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the heartbreak of not knowing your real father
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or your real mum.
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If someone's strong enough,
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manly enough or woolly enough to come in
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and take that role,
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it doesn't fill the void permanently,
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permanently, but it does help.
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It helps heal the heart so much.
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And it puts that male energy as well
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that you probably need to go in.
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Yeah, but the issue is,
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it's just a bad deal for guys, to be honest,
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to date a single mother.
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But you say that, though.
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Yeah, but you're the same fact.
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I could call my step that right now
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and I'll tell you for a fact.
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I know, but I'm not talking about you.
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He hit the jackpot.
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Right, I'm not talking about you.
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I'm talking about in general.
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I'm a hypocrite on that
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because I was raised by a single mother.
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My mother to me is an angel,
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but I wouldn't want to go with a woman
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who already has a child.
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And that's just no disrespect.
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It's just like, for me,
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for me, I just wouldn't want to do that
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because it's a lot to take from
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and there's another man in this situation.
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I don't want to have to deal with that.
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But at the same time, I'm a single mum.
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Yeah, I'm a single mum.
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And at the same time,
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when you want to meet me,
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you already know that I have a child.
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And obviously, she will be my number one priority.
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It doesn't matter, no matter what.
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Even myself, I'm going to put myself last.
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And that's why it's kind of a respect from me
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is because I'm like,
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I can't make a mistake
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with a woman who's got a child.
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There's that fucking Jerry Maguire movie
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where it's like, you don't shop the putty.
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You don't mess around with a woman
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who's got a child already.
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You have to treat her with a lot of respect.
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It's a more dangerous situation
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because people get hurt more.
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Well, and you're supposed to put your...
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I disagree with what you're saying.
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What do you disagree with?
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Yeah, I mean, yeah,
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you have to put respect and all that.
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But because I'm a single mum,
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doesn't mean I'm a very weak person.
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I'm more stronger than ever.
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No, what I mean is
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because there's a child involved,
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I treat it more seriously
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than if it's just me and a girl.
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And if our feelings get hurt,
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that's one thing.
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But when there's a child involved,
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that's a whole bigger situation.
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And that's why I wouldn't...
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I agree, I agree.
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I would be more...
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Oh, is this what I want to do?
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I'd be sick.
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Yeah, but at the same time,
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if you can be straightforward
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and at the point and honest
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and to have an open conversation with me,
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obviously we can agree.
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And if things are not working out,
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that's completely fine.
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I'm not going to get upset.
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I'm not going to be depressed
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because you don't want to be in the lab.
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That's your...
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And look, that's you,
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but I don't know every girl's a strong child.
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Yeah, yeah, of course.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm talking just about myself.
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Well, but there's a couple issues
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because one, if they raise...
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In the UK, if you raise someone else's kid,
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you have no rights to that kid.
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So it's like you could bond with the kid
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for 10 years and you have no rights to it.
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Dude, if you've got your own kid,
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you've got no rights to it if you're a man.
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Yeah.
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So go to look with someone else's kid.
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Right, but at least your genes are passed on.
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But if you think of it from a genetic point of view,
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there's no reason for a guy to date a single mom.
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Yeah, but it's never about the legalities of genetics.
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It's about...
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How you're feeling.
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It's about the impression you leave
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on another fellow human being.
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I've just told you I've spoken about a stepfather
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more fondly than I did about my own father.
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That's worth something, surely.
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And I know we're not making it about me,
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but God, Jesus Christ, man,
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someone out there must understand
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it's a beautiful thing to raise a child that's not yours.
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And I think that sounds nice.
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It sounds really nice,
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but you know if you had a son,
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you wouldn't encourage...
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If he had no kids,
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you're not going to encourage him to date a single mom.
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If I met a woman who was beautiful
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and gave me everything that I wanted,
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but just so happened to have a child,
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you think I'm going to say no
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because a child isn't...
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I think you should.
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I think that's not very wise, to be honest.
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But I wouldn't be the person I am today
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if my stepfather didn't take ownership.
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And again, I think that's great for you.
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And I think you ended up in a good situation.
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But I think nowadays it's like
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you have so much to risk
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going into relationships as a guy.
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Like you have so much to...
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Like you might not even understand it.
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I just know because I'm doing this documentary
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in the court system.
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So, and it's like you could spend five years
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of your time, attention, and resources
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and she can leave on a dime.
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I mean, they're already leaving the father of their kids.
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Yeah.
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Like what is she going to...
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It's happened to me before.
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I mean, one of the last relationships I was in
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with the mother of one of my children,
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she already had three children
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when I first met her.
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We've got a child together,
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but she already had three children,
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three beautiful children.
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We were in a relationship for, you know, five years.
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In that time, I became somewhat
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these children's real father.
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You know what I mean?
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I'm there with them every day.
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I'm doing the school runs,
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picking them up, parents' evenings,
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you know, doctor's appointments,
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all those kinds of things.
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And then once our relationship had finished,
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I no longer had any rights to those children.
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You know what I mean?
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I built up this beautiful relationship.
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I look at them no different
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from my own biological children.
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You know what I mean?
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They were my children.
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They are...
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Even to this day, they still are my children.
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However, I don't have the same level of...
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Was their dad involved over there,
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like helping or was he around?
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He's about, but he's not about, about.
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You know what I mean?
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And even the way that he would raise the children
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would be slightly different
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from the way that I would raise children.
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You know what I mean?
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So we have our differences in that.
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Everyone is different anyway.
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And that's the other issue I've heard.
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It's like, does she respect your authority
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over the kids because they're not your kids?
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Well, it depends how long you've been together.
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Because obviously,
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if you're in the beginning of your relationship,
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it's not gonna...
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But if you're not respecting him in the beginning,
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how does he know you'll respect him in the future?
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You're respecting him,
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but in the same time,
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you have to build that trust over time.
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How did you feel, bro?
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Just out of curiosity,
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giving back to those three kids.
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Would you see it as some people insinuating
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as something that you wouldn't encourage
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your next man to go through?
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You know what?
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Do you regret it at all?
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I don't regret it.
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I don't regret it.
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I mean, I think it's taken a mental toll on me.
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However, I don't regret it.
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I feel like the input which I put into those children's lives,
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you know, has been positive.
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And I think that one day when they grow up,
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they will really appreciate it.
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A hundred percent.
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But what have you sacrificed?
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And that's what I'm saying.
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Yeah.
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It's like,
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I wouldn't even like to have a breakup with a girl
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and her keep the dog.
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It would fucking...
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I love dogs.
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So do I.
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So do I.
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Let alone,
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like me attaching myself to a child
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and feeling like,
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I love this kid.
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I feel like it's mine,
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but it is like literally nothing to do with me
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after that day.
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And then after five years...
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Would you encourage your son to do it?
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To do what?
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I wouldn't...
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You know,
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I'm...
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Personally,
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I believe in hope
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and, you know,
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the positivity.
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So I would hope that,
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you know,
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if my son did go into that situation,
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he would be able to make the right decisions
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to make that relationship last
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and stick it out for the long run.
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Because as I say,
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you know,
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a child needs a father.
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Exactly.
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And if you can be that positive role,
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a male role model in someone's life,
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then be it.
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Don't you think that's on her
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to get back with the dad of her kids?
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Like,
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isn't it better if the actual dad
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is in their lives?
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Yeah.
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Of course,
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of course.
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And so my question is,
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if she's leaving the...
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And I'm not talking about your personal stories,
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but if she's leaving the mother,
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like the father of her kids,
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which more likely than not she did,
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it's like,
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what incentive does she have
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to stay with you
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if she didn't even make it work
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with the guy who she had a child with?
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Because we don't know.
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We don't know that the dad
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that she was with,
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he might have been abusing her physically.
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He might have been...
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Well, and there's a little bit
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of a red pill on abuse.
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Not as many women
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that say they were abused
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were abused.
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And a lot of people don't know this
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because of the way
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the family court system is.
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You have to ask
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if they filed a criminal case,
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and if the answer is no,
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they may not have been.
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Because the family court,
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you don't need any evidence
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to accuse and even
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sort of prosecute
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where there's legal consequences
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a guy of abuse.
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So there's a lot of girls
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that go around saying
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they were abused
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and they weren't.
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I just think it's a good thing to do,
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and I don't want to lose hope
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in you, man.
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I wouldn't go as far
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to say that if you were
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to date a girl
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who as a child
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exclusively makes you a coward,
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but because of my
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personal experience,
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fuck it.
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I'm going to say it.
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It definitely doesn't make you
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a coward,
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but you have to definitely
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be scarce going into
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that situation
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knowingly knowing that.
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I mean, I would just say
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don't do it,
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to be honest.
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So are you supposed
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to just write them
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off them?
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Because to me,
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it feels like that's what...
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I think that men
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deserve to have standards.
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Yeah, and if I know a guy
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and I think he's a good man
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and he's worked hard
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to build a good career
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and he has a lot going for him,
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I would never tell him
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to risk that
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by dating a single mother.
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I don't have anything
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personal against single mothers,
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but if I'm talking
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to my brother
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or someone I love,
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no, I wouldn't want
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them to do that.
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Okay.
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Because I mean,
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looking back at the situation,
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how much of my finances
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really went into
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raising these children
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and they're not actually
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my children?
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And what did you get out of it?
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How much of my time?
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Yeah.
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I haven't got much out of it.
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You did, you did.
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You did.
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You referred to them
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as three beautiful.
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You are passionate about them.
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You care about them
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and they care about you.
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No, but we have to remember
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he's not disposable.
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Their mom could just
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turn around to me
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and say,
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no, it's another guy
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that's not going to come into
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the children's life.
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If it is your kid biologically,
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what makes you think
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that the woman
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is going to stay with you
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more so than
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if it's not your kid?
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If she wants to leave you,
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she's going to leave you
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regardless if it's your kid,
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if it's your dog,
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if it's your cat.
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Right, right, right.
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But what's the best predictor
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of future behavior?
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Yes.
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Past behavior.
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So if she's done it before,
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she's likely to do it again.
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But we need to understand why.
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No, but you need to know
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what's to say that she...
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The why is very important.
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Right, but something's wrong
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with her decision making.
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Okay, something's wrong.
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
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Something is wrong, okay,
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because I genuinely believe
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everything in life
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is your own goddamn fault.
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You are the product
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of your choices, okay?
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So if she is a single mother,
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she either likes abusive
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and toxic men,
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which means you won't live up
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because she likes the drama,
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she likes something about it,
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that's what she picks.
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Or she leaves when it gets hard.
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But maybe there's other situations.
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But what about if,
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okay, you're saying,
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okay, she's the one that left.
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Okay, let's flip it and reverse it.
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He was the one that left her
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and then made her a single mother.
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Do you feel that she now,
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because he decided to walk away
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from the responsibility
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because it got too much for him,
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would you feel that it's okay
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for her to just be right off
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because he chose to leave?
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I would say she has a poor choice in men.
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Yeah, I would say that says...
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How could you say...
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How could you...
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Yeah, you're still blaming her.
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No, I think he shouldn't leave.
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I think it's wrong for him to leave.
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But I know too much about the court system here.
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Like, I know too much.
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A lot of women...
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No, a lot of women
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keep the kids away from the fathers.
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They absolutely do.
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And so a lot of men grow up
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thinking their dad's a deadbeat
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and he's not.
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And that's another risk
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you're going to get with the single mom.
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You're only hearing her side of the story.
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So you don't...
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Right, so you don't know the full picture.
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So if she's saying,
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oh, he abused me, he this.
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Well, now I know
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that you're accusing a guy of abuse.
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She could accuse you of abuse.
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And because you don't know
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if she's telling the truth.
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No, I understand.
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So, like, these are just all
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risk factors that go up.
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So I think men deserve to have standards.
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I think men can demand,
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I want an in-shape, childless woman.
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I think men have every right to say that
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and they should.
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Because genuinely,
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I think women wouldn't leave as much
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if men stopped putting up with this.
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If women knew,
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if I have two kids
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and I don't make this work,
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nobody is going to want me.
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I think they would figure it out a lot more.
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But they always think
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the grass is greener on the other side
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and a lot of times it's not.
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You know what?
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Sometimes I have to disagree,
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but in this instance,
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she's kind of right.
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No, no, no.
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