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- May 07, 2023
Sneako Battles Modern Woman
Episode Stats
Length
8 minutes
Words per Minute
226.60915
Word Count
1,961
Sentence Count
167
Misogynist Sentences
41
Hate Speech Sentences
8
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You said this wanting validation for men for being equal.
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You just wanted him to validate you for being able to fix a car.
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No, listen, what I said, why?
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You keep talking about yourself.
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Do you know why you get, no, do you know why you're getting confused?
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Because you've already immediately labeled me to be a feminist.
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I'm standing against.
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It's not about feminism.
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You said that feminism is wanting to get validation for men for being equal.
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Let me clarify.
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You got mad at him for not being able to fix a car.
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And we just all gave you money up to go fix a car.
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I have students like you.
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Let me explain why you're actually just looking for an argument.
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Because I'm saying that.
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It's not an argument.
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I'm just trying to see the double standard of what you're saying.
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Feminists are actually a bit confused.
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And they're screaming for so many things.
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When in reality, what they're actually looking for is just, yay, well done.
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That's it.
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Because women cannot go and do certain things.
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Newsflash.
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Men go to work all day, every day.
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Exactly.
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And nobody thanks them.
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Exactly.
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It's a thankless world.
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Listen, and that's what I'm saying.
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Having a movement for it is quite pointless.
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Say well done to yourself and it's okay.
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So I'm actually against feminism because it actually hinders me.
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I get called that all the time and it's so annoying.
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Completely agree with you.
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You're putting yourself there.
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I'm not.
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Because I've already told you.
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So why did we all put up money to go fix a car?
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If you're not exactly what you just described.
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Okay.
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And let me tell you why I am not a feminist in that essence.
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Because that's what I want.
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I want just somebody to say to me, oh, by the way, if I tell you that I can fix a car.
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Oh, yeah, cool.
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That's good.
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Well done to you because I got skills.
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Validation.
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Wait.
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You're seeking validation.
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What are you talking about?
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She's exactly what she's describing right now.
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I'm explaining to you the difference between what they say they want, what they actually
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really want.
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That's it.
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Because...
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So what do you want?
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Well, I just want to be able to be somewhere, do something.
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Somebody say, yeah, that's really good.
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Well done.
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So basically you're feminist.
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I'm saying, I'm belittling the fact that feminists will stand there and say, equal rights, we
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want all of this, when in reality you're just a sweet little girl that just wants to be like,
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well done.
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But they're angry.
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And yet without all of those movements, you wouldn't be here.
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No one would be here.
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No, you wouldn't.
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50 years ago, yeah.
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50 years ago.
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Dead ass.
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No, like without those women actually taking the logic upon themselves, you know, using
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that logic, whether it was to do what men, what was the example that you gave when they
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were terrorists?
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Men have been known terrorists for a very long time.
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We're talking back to the 1700s and all these real battles.
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But what outcomes has that given for women?
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Has that given us good outcomes?
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Are we happier?
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No.
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Or do we have more children?
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No.
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Are we on, we're on antidepressants more than ever before?
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Yes.
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Is this because of feminism?
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We're more sexually promiscuous than ever before.
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We're in less relationships than ever before.
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More of us are childless over 30 than ever before.
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What outcomes has happened that are good?
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We can point to individual things and say, yes, we're on a podcast.
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That's fun.
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But in society, as a whole, what good has it done?
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It got me to meet you.
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But also the other issue with it is,
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at what point, you're talking about, yeah, 50 years ago,
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and that's how you've got to this point and everything like that.
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There's a sort of, but I believe there is an even playing field now.
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Certainly in the UK, I think in the United States as well, Canada,
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all these Anglosphere countries, right?
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I don't believe that women are now held back in any material way, okay?
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In terms of the job market, in terms of opportunities,
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being an entrepreneur, et cetera, et cetera.
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So at what point, at what point, no, absolutely, but at what point do we say,
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okay, right, now the conversation is closed, because now we move forward.
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I would go even further and say that women have more freedom than men.
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Yeah, 100%, 100%.
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Because of feminism.
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And that's where it becomes destructive,
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because it seems now that the power balance has shifted more into the feminine,
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and then guys are actually being disadvantaged now.
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I do think that's the problem with modern-day feminism.
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I think that everyone wants women empowerment,
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and I'm for women empowerment,
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but we can't pick and choose when we want feminism to take place.
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Say, for example, like, we want a man to provide for us and care for us,
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and some people might want to be a housewife,
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but then also you want the other side of it,
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and you want to take control in the relationship or vice versa.
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Yeah, but she doesn't really want that.
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Like, it's not actually equal, because it's like,
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say, for example, certain areas of work, like a bin man.
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Very few women want to be a bin man.
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They will say it's a man's job.
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I would say zero.
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Yeah, they would say it's a man's job.
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Do you want to check the applications?
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But then if you want to look at feminism, you guys want equality,
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but when it comes to certain jobs, you don't want to do them.
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When it comes to certain instances, you don't want to be involved in them.
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So it doesn't really...
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I think feminists pick and choose when it benefits them.
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No, but I think...
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That's something I would say.
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I think the issue here is you guys are not trying to, like,
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not you guys in general, but just, like, women who are like,
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I'm not a feminist, but everything that you've actually...
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Being made, like, and alive right now, I mean,
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and it's back to my point of the 50 years ago, 100 years ago,
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when your ancestors and your great-great-great-grandmothers
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are sitting there in the kitchen, unable to do anything, yeah?
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Like, feminism has benefited every woman in today's society.
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Yeah, I was about to say, I would suspect those women are happier
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than these women currently.
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I would actually prefer.
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And how are they happier?
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They're not even here.
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I would actually prefer to be where women was in the 20s
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because the pressure for me as a lady to work can be very exhausting.
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So when you sit here and say that, oh, this is the reason why I'm here today,
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most women really don't.
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Most women, I'll be honest with you,
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we do all of this work boss chick stuff because of the pressure
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that this feminist woman has put on women to not be lazy
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and to get up and work.
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So when you sit here and say, oh, this is the reason why you guys are here
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and da-da-da-da-da, most of us really don't want to be here.
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Don't forget that you're black in the 20s.
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You don't have the same rights my sister.
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I want freedom.
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I want freedom.
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You wouldn't want to be there.
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The first, wait, wait, wait, just to correct something.
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The first female millionaire was in the early, it was in 1900.
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Yeah, the hair shop lady.
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No, but everyone says they couldn't vote or they couldn't work
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until like the 50s and 60s.
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But before that, there was a female millionaire.
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So there, someone did it.
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That's nice.
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Weren't held back.
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Well, to be honest, making money is not really that hard.
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You know, this is the thing.
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If you are capable, you can do anything, whether you're a man or a woman.
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The problem with feminism, I think, is that it displaces women a lot of the time
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because you're trying to make us be something that we're not.
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Like, I work for myself.
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I do.
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I would say I am a boss in what I do, but I'm not a boss, baby,
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and I have to prove to my man that I'm this woman and I deserve certain things.
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All I want is not because I'm a feminist,
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just because I'm a person that likes to be told, well, then I just want,
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if I'm with a man, to be like, oh, that's quite cool, you know.
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Well done for trying that.
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That's it.
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But I don't really get anything against that.
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I don't really get too many people sometimes,
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especially the people that know me, telling me things like, oh,
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you're a woman, you shouldn't do this.
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So do you want validation from men or not?
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I just want, I don't want, it's not just from men.
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I want it from anybody, even women that will look at me and be like,
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no, you can't do that.
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Women do that to each other.
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So I don't want to be boxed in because I'm a woman.
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I just want to be treated like normal.
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Just, it's fine.
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It seems like your value system is extremely external and exists in other people's minds.
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No, not really.
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This is in terms of the context of the conversation,
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because I think you can tell that I don't actually need much external validation.
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I'm quite gassed by myself.
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Thank you.
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But it seems like in some industries, in say in London, we're in London now, right?
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I mean, if you look at media industry, if you look at advertising,
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certain types of like information technology and stuff like that,
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it's very actually female based.
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You know, you've got, like say the advertising industry,
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you've got more female leaders in that space than you have men.
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So it seems to me at some point we have to say, right,
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well, the balance has been addressed now.
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I think so.
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It's getting there.
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I think women need to just kind of like empower themselves, not request for the stuff.
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And then it goes back to what they were saying before, which is like, OK, man or woman,
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you've got to go out into the world and you've got to bend it to your will, right?
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You've got to make it, you've got to make your own narrative
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and not fall back on these, you know, victimhood things.
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Yes.
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You summed that up nicely.
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I can see you've got good experience talking to people and making them understand the simple and basics.
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Oh, I like that.
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Thank you for summarising it that way.
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But you made a good point in the sense that like when is, that's then,
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the thing is with feminism is never ending.
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Every week, every month, there's a new issue.
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It's so unnecessary that these feminists want.
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And it's just like, when are you guys going to be satisfied?
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That's my problem with feminism.
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And that's when it becomes destructive.
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But I don't think you can say that it's unnecessary to them
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because if they fall away, they fall away.
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So I don't think you can invalidate their feelings.
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They can feel stupid.
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They can have stupid beliefs and feelings.
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Yeah, but that doesn't make it real.
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It's just banned on TikTok.
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And we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.
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