JustPearlyThings - The HIDDEN Meaning Of Feminism

00:00:00.000 what up guys welcome to the just pearly things youtube channel and welcome to the sit down where

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00:00:21.060 out these streams also get yourself a women shouldn't vote t-shirt today you know you guys

00:00:25.860 know my opinion the breakdown of the family everything is be all because women got the right

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00:00:36.980 so welcome to the show guys can you give the audience a little background i'm starting with

00:00:42.420 you paul yeah i'm paul elam my website is paul elam.com i've been involved in working around

00:00:48.540 men and men's issues for nearly 40 years now my youtube channel is an ear for men.com

00:00:55.420 and you can also find me at paul elam.com forward slash xy crew for our men's groups that deal with

00:01:04.240 these very topics every day of the week okay so i'm a divorced mother of three remarried um all my

00:01:11.400 children are adults now and uh gainfully employed and responsible citizens i don't even know how that

00:01:18.060 happened but yeah no i i've been involved in uh men's rights and anti-feminism for about well since

00:01:24.060 about 2010 when i started discussing the issues online and what led me to be interested in them

00:01:30.440 was that i was going through my divorce at that time and you know how when you when you divorce

00:01:36.360 you have this extremely long detailed list right down to every last little thing of what they did

00:01:43.420 wrong but if you don't want to have something like that happen again you actually have to try and

00:01:48.060 figure out what you did wrong and because it's never only just one person screwing up and ruining

00:01:54.120 a marriage so i stumbled i was looking for answers and i stumbled across a men's website called the

00:01:59.900 spearhead and i started participating in the um comment section there and uh it was brutal it was

00:02:05.860 absolutely brutal but fair but totally fair and i started reading all of these articles about things

00:02:12.400 like domestic violence and sexual assault and false allegations and divorce law and alimony and child

00:02:19.560 support laws and all kinds of things like that and i thought well this is not the world i want my sons

00:02:24.880 to grow up in and it's definitely not even the world that i want my daughter to grow up in because

00:02:29.640 if you if you completely destroy the trust between that men have for women how can your daughter be

00:02:36.660 able to go out and form a relationship with someone who's trustworthy if he's always if he's

00:02:41.880 pretending to trust her not to screw him over then it's because he's planning to screw her over right

00:02:47.840 so i i was just like no no this is not a good way to form families and have a functioning society and

00:02:55.700 so i just started talking about it and you know there was an aspect of someone is wrong on the internet

00:03:00.440 uh as well it's funny when you can't i can't i can't leave people to say stupid things and then just

00:03:06.800 walk away with nobody pushing back on them so well it's funny when you first like get into the red

00:03:13.120 pill space as a chick because like i think we're just so used to being like pandered to 24 7 that

00:03:19.360 you hear it you're like oh wow this is how this is what guys think and it's kind of like oh it's kind

00:03:23.640 of like a shock at first but then i don't know how it was for you but for me i was like oh this is

00:03:28.020 actually helpful to know i was like this is actually like useful information i thought there's two

00:03:32.340 different kinds of women out there that get in into the red pill space and there are those who

00:03:38.660 look at the pushback from men and say well given what they're living with and working with every day

00:03:44.640 this is understandable it's not pleasant it's not pretty but i get it this is the way they feel

00:03:50.560 and there's lots of women that get into the red pill space also that get some of that pushback

00:03:57.200 and all of a sudden we're evil and we're everything feminists have have always said we were

00:04:03.660 so i like those guys out there giving the pushback for the for the reason that it really gets the

00:04:10.060 non-hackers out of the way so that women who really want to speak to these issues can it's nice to have

00:04:16.440 them they're they're a very very very effective vetting committee basically you know if you're if

00:04:22.760 you're real you'll stick around and you know i saw a couple of women who were like totally on board

00:04:28.780 with the guys at the spearhead until you know one of them said something particularly insulting

00:04:34.240 about women and or maybe was rude to them and then they pulled their woman card and said well you can't

00:04:42.220 be rude to me i'm a woman and you know you don't treat women like that and they were like yeah you can

00:04:47.400 fuck off you know and and they would get booted out and it's like no you can't you can't these guys

00:04:53.540 are being honest about how they feel and they are often being brutally honest because that's the only

00:04:59.180 way anybody's ever gonna care is if this guy is so shockingly honest that it snaps you out of your

00:05:07.440 uh your malaise and you actually have to pay attention to and it's it's like it's like the difference

00:05:12.840 between someone a man standing on the sidewalk yelling at people well you got to pay attention

00:05:19.780 to that guy as opposed to a man lying on the sidewalk you know under a pile of newspapers

00:05:24.760 you know slowly dying yeah um well and then people just walk past i used to when i first like started

00:05:31.420 watching the stuff i would say like oh like why do they say it like that and then i realized i'm like

00:05:36.920 i was just how guys talk but we're so used to being like pandered to that we're just not used to like

00:05:41.980 the bluntness of it but i think it's good i feel like i feel like it's like overall it's a good

00:05:47.220 thing because then you kind of understand how guys like think around you a little bit better

00:05:51.700 yeah keep in mind too the guys get pushed back on this i i practice a lot of that bluntness in the

00:05:58.460 work i do and i can tell you there's no shortage of guys out there pushing back on me saying i need

00:06:03.820 to be warren farrell instead of olilam uh that's just sort of part of the vetting process for men i think

00:06:10.860 yeah no and and i i have a real hard time with you know when you look at warren farrell

00:06:16.260 i imagine two parents right so you have you have the one parent who calmly and quietly explains to

00:06:23.000 the child you know why you're having a time out because you you know and why you need to to clean

00:06:28.940 your room or why you need to you know go to school on be on time and why you need to do things

00:06:35.040 and you know very reasonable and very calm and very quiet and then every once in a while you need

00:06:40.380 a parent who's just gonna put his foot down right and say no this far no further smarten up or you're

00:06:47.800 gonna get your ass tan and i mean you cannot have a men's movement populated only by warren farrell's

00:06:54.720 you need the tip of the spear you need the spearhead of people who are rude and in your face and shocking

00:07:02.260 and blunt and brutally honest right to basically soften up the audience to be willing to even

00:07:10.080 listen to and entertain the positions of the warren farrell's out there because otherwise you know

00:07:15.780 warren farrell is just never going to get anywhere yeah they say i'm really mean so oh they all say

00:07:20.660 i'm really mean too so you guys are cupcakes oh suchy cool oh i don't know if you know her suchy cool

00:07:29.100 she's a canadian uh journalist uh but she works for uh she was working for buzzfeed and she put me

00:07:35.640 on a netflix special and i sat down for 90 minutes with her and then about 40 minutes into the interview

00:07:41.280 she says well you called me a cunt and i was like did i and she's like why yeah like six times and i'm

00:07:47.400 like are you and she says are you denying it and i'm like no it sounds like something i'd say i just

00:07:52.200 don't recall i've called a lot of people cunts and uh and she's like well you did like and then

00:07:58.260 i'm like okay and then she says well do you still think i'm a cunt and i'm i'm like yeah kind of you

00:08:05.440 know and i burst out laughing right i wish i had been more on the ball i would have like looked at my

00:08:10.840 imaginary watch and said well we've been here for 40 minutes and you haven't given me a reason to change

00:08:15.140 my mind so you know and she just sat through the whole thing looking like she i just forced her to

00:08:21.460 eat bird poop it was great my question today i'm curious so what is you guys's opinion of feminism as

00:08:29.460 a whole it has never not been rotten okay you know i don't know if i can add anything to that it's

00:08:34.860 it's been a hate movement from its inception starting with seneca falls all the way up to today

00:08:41.340 it is populated by a lot of women who have big time issues with men and they express it politically

00:08:48.500 through feminism i'd say going back further than that going back all the way to mary wollstonecraft

00:08:53.280 yeah that she had if you actually read about her life she was deeply disturbed probably borderline

00:09:00.120 personality disorder or bipolar or something like that paranoid uh she hated men uh she hated her

00:09:06.820 father and uh she never got married she had a child out of wedlock she tried to kill herself when

00:09:13.980 she found that okay at this point it's it's difficult to be a single mother so i'm gonna try and coerce the

00:09:21.440 man who impregnated me into marrying me and he wouldn't do it because she was crazy and so then she

00:09:27.920 tried to kill herself with this six-year-old or nine-year-old girl uh daughter who was depending on

00:09:33.980 her and uh because this guy said no i don't want to be married to you and i'm guessing he was paying

00:09:39.260 her some sort of uh support but it's like i'm i'm looking at that that is that was the proto-feminist

00:09:47.880 that gave birth to what occurred in seneca falls uh 75 years later and that i mean when you look at

00:09:55.080 that document the declaration of sentiments and you you read that one line the history of mankind

00:10:01.540 is a history of repeated user patients and oppressions of by man against woman having indirect

00:10:11.060 object of the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her right that is what they were saying that

00:10:17.480 was their description of the world as it stood in 1850 and then they just go from there and they make

00:10:25.040 this list of all of the ways in which men have wronged women and of course none of the ways in

00:10:32.200 which men have done right by women none of the the sort of the trade-offs that were made uh in terms of

00:10:39.720 yes men have custody of the children by by default i mean like there were ways of getting around that

00:10:45.900 but fathers have custody of their children by default but that's because fathers paid for their children

00:10:51.640 they were the sole people legally responsible for supporting those children so they they got them

00:10:57.560 because they paid for them but doesn't say anything about that and you look at all of the ways that they

00:11:02.100 began to dismantle all of those norms right well men they switched they didn't say oh let's go to

00:11:07.840 equal shared custody on the part of mothers and fathers no it was custody to the mother tender years

00:11:12.880 doctrine but oh no reason to touch that um that whole child support and alimony thing and the father

00:11:19.340 being the sole provider for the all the necessaries of his children and the head of their household

00:11:25.720 which is now the mother right oh no no reason to look at that no reason to think about that right

00:11:31.540 so or change any of that so they really pulled uh pulled one over on society and every single thing

00:11:38.700 that they did with coverture was they they took away all of the all of the handicaps on women all of the

00:11:45.800 uh restrictions on women all of the limitations on women and handed them everything they wanted

00:11:52.020 and then kept all of the obligation and responsibility and culpability and all of those things on men

00:11:58.680 well i mean all of that is factually correct um and most of this shit happened before women got the

00:12:05.860 you know it's important to keep all this in mind because what you'll hear most common even from

00:12:11.140 alleged conservatives today is that feminism was a movement with all the right ideas that somehow

00:12:17.100 took a turn south and went in the wrong direction at some point maybe in the late 1960s early 70s

00:12:24.880 something like that of course that's a fallacy feminism was rotten from the beginning i know that

00:12:31.920 karen's right it predates seneca falls but in seneca falls even men were invited to attend that

00:12:38.580 convention and sit in the back with their mouths shut from the very beginning that was the rules

00:12:43.360 that the women put forward at seneca falls it's never been an inclusive movement that was about any

00:12:49.600 kind of justice or anything of that sort it was always about women getting all the power they could

00:12:56.620 and exercising it against men and this is exactly what we see playing out in the social landscape

00:13:02.980 today and politically and legally across the board feminism has poisoned our society in many ways

00:13:11.500 but i think it's also really important not to forget that feminism is one side of a coin

00:13:18.520 gynocentrism as a whole is uh tells a more complete picture because you've got people

00:13:25.580 like our friends at the daily wire and other places who are saying they're anti-feminist and then

00:13:34.300 turning around and just parroting all sorts of adulation and deference to women and painting women

00:13:42.200 as victims using all the same language that feminism uses just from a slightly different angle and when

00:13:49.120 you object to that they'll say you're like the feminist it's it's an interesting dynamic but

00:13:55.900 you're not a you're not a real man if you don't get married absolutely that mean the unfortunately

00:14:03.520 the political right in i think north america if there's is there is there any more political right

00:14:09.500 in canada that exists anymore yes okay good it's there but what you get from these guys

00:14:15.800 is that they will not talk about changing family law or fixing family law they will talk about men

00:14:25.040 needing to get married but the moment they need to step up and man up and and you know take the hit

00:14:32.400 or whatever step up to the plate as fathers even if they catch fastballs between the eyes they need

00:14:37.880 to to step up and do that and at the same time they're saying that they're anti-feminist it's it's a

00:14:44.260 strange mix well i mean i think i think i think it's interesting too to note that i think wasn't

00:14:49.380 it ronald reagan who who basically passed no fault divorce in california the first governor yeah yeah

00:14:57.220 and and it's like well okay yeah i can understand having no fault divorce right you know like you

00:15:03.300 don't have to prove that he beat you you don't have to prove that he raped you you don't have to prove

00:15:09.040 that he uh was uh abusive or abandoned the family you don't have to prove any of that you just have

00:15:14.920 irreconcilable differences and you can divorce him you know and you can do that unilaterally without

00:15:21.280 having to prove fault okay so you walk away with your share a fair share of the marital assets that

00:15:28.200 you both accumulated during the marriage and that's it that's it right and you share custody of your kids

00:15:34.260 because if it if no one if he will if it's no fault then you're basically saying he's not at fault

00:15:39.960 either right so you walk away you don't have to you don't have to take him out for the rest of his

00:15:46.360 life there's a you know like the whole lifetime alimony thing well i started looking to often uh keep

00:15:52.800 that going so it's infuriating to me where you have this well republicans in bed with feminists

00:15:58.920 right super awesome bedfellows there but you know like rick scott in um in florida he twice vetoed

00:16:06.980 a bill that would get rid of lifetime alimony and uh at the behest of the national organization for

00:16:12.240 women that's what he did and it's like because he thinks that you know a man's place is to be

00:16:19.000 supporting women and you can think that all you want right and i don't have any problem with that

00:16:24.140 right like i live in a in a marriage right now where my man financially supports the whole household

00:16:30.120 and i take care of him and you know the home uh as ineptly as often that is but i i look after all

00:16:38.420 of those things that i take care of paying the bills i take care of all the domestic stuff i take

00:16:43.060 care of all the cooking and he needs a lot of cooking and all of those things i i don't have a

00:16:47.020 problem with even organizing society around those principles you just can't have a society that's

00:16:54.700 organized around those principles where you pretend that they don't exist and you make laws that don't

00:17:02.860 enforce those principles you make laws that actually counter uh counteract those principles so it's it's

00:17:10.520 like basically we have this thing where it's like a woman can divorce a man in florida for any reason

00:17:15.720 or no reason at all and walk away and he has to pay her for the rest of his life and he never gets

00:17:20.980 to retire um his retirement is the day that he pulls out a gun and does that right and uh so it's i i'm

00:17:28.820 just looking at it and i'm thinking you know if you want if you want as a traditionalist republican right

00:17:34.960 who believes in gender roles and who believes in you know this uh gender distribution of labor and who

00:17:42.200 believes in you know marriage and who believes in all of those then pick that pick that and make

00:17:48.340 laws that reinforce that right don't pick that right in terms of what you're willing to say

00:17:54.260 socially and then you know and then just do a whole bunch of stuff that completely contradicts it

00:18:00.600 and makes it impossible to actually establish in real life but here's the here's the problem that we

00:18:05.980 keep facing with conservatives all the time is that they will again they'll insist that men step up

00:18:12.300 and volunteer for the abuse but they will never speak about family courts yeah because they do not

00:18:20.020 have the spines to stand up to women they will not put themselves in a role of being and seeing in

00:18:26.740 competition or conflict with women so they're all they're left with is you need to get married no matter

00:18:32.920 what no matter how bad the deal is no matter how corrupt the courts are no matter how lopsided the

00:18:38.360 laws are you need to step up and do this and by the way when you say we'll fix the courts first they go

00:18:44.760 dead silent it's it's absolutely the the hypocrisy and the lack of spine in conservatives over this

00:18:52.240 matter is just staggering yeah well it's so it's so crazy because i i like you know when i first got

00:18:58.380 into the red pill space i didn't really understand people's like problem with marriage i was like

00:19:02.760 what's the problem my parents are married and then i started like going into i started researching it

00:19:09.360 and i started um working on my divorce documentary and i had this like realization i'm like a lot of

00:19:14.520 guys would have been better off if they never got married or had kids because i realized i'm like

00:19:19.120 the women will turn the kids against the dad anyways and and god knows who the mom this the baby

00:19:25.240 mother stepmom whatever brings like what dad is or what male she he she brings parade of uncle yeah

00:19:32.780 yeah exactly and so i'm like no there's because some of the guys it's like really sad when you talk

00:19:38.880 to them they're like they're they're so like there's just nothing like a guy who who can't see his kids

00:19:44.320 like it's just like the most devastating thing where he'll be like a mile away from them and he can't

00:19:49.280 see them and he feels so powerless from this court system i'm like fuck if i was a guy i don't know if

00:19:54.600 i'd sign up for this even if it was just uh like because you know they'll always try to downplay the

00:19:59.400 stats like they'll try to like you know because i would argue that you just didn't meet the right

00:20:04.060 woman yeah they'll be like they'll be like find a girl that prays i'm like have you seen the

00:20:09.220 that pray nowadays like i'm not trying to be rude but like i mean i i've seen kate like i i just got to

00:20:17.620 the point where i couldn't find a right woman that i hadn't seen fuck over a guy i'm like i found the

00:20:23.300 muslim girl i found the eastern europeans that are supposed to be better i found like the russian

00:20:28.680 shit came over here no it's all of them i'm like it's just ice and so you know it just kind of made

00:20:36.740 me realize that shit like if i was a guy i wouldn't sign up the only solution if they really want to

00:20:42.180 bring families together is to switch the courts because it's like this is two generations of men

00:20:47.600 at least that have been screwed over by this court system so you know guys are logical they kind of

00:20:53.240 weigh the pros and cons they're like i can't even get two kids out of this anymore they're like and

00:20:58.160 i have to risk it all for well yeah but they'll hate your guts by the time they're 20. yeah yeah yeah

00:21:03.300 yeah no and and why would you do it when you've got you know casual sex and i tell my boys right you

00:21:09.920 know if you're going to engage in that you bring your own condoms you don't use the ones she has right

00:21:14.500 you bring your own condoms you use them you take them into the bathroom afterwards you rinse them

00:21:18.620 out in the hottest water that comes out of the tap and then you throw them in the trash don't flush

00:21:22.460 them down the toilet because that's disgusting and somebody has to scrape all that stuff off of the

00:21:27.540 intake valves at the water treatment center so you know don't make it hard for other men is basically

00:21:33.380 what i'm saying but but yeah you need to protect yourself and like my sister when i started making

00:21:38.020 my videos my older sister uh she's six years older than me she said she you know she had had the talk

00:21:43.500 with her daughter who was you know uh 13 or something at the time about you know the talk

00:21:49.500 about boys and you know staying staying on the straight and narrow and not getting into temptation

00:21:55.260 and not letting anybody talk you into doing anything you shouldn't be doing and all of that

00:21:59.420 stuff right and she says and then you started making videos and i started realizing i have to have

00:22:03.660 that talk with my boys too and so she's got you know his her her boys are sandwiched in between two

00:22:10.320 daughters and uh and so she gave them the talk about watching out for users watching out for women

00:22:16.800 who are going to lie expect them to lie when they say they're on birth control expect them to be lying

00:22:22.880 and uh predict that you know they will sperm jack you if they can you know because and maybe only one

00:22:28.560 in a thousand women will do this but that one in a thousand means uh 150 000 26 year amortized baby

00:22:36.320 mortgage and i think that that speaks to a bigger issue too than just marriage i mean what we're

00:22:41.680 talking about here is the fundamental lack of trust trust that we can have that men can have in women

00:22:48.720 nowadays because the potential damage doesn't isn't limited to marriage i mean there's paternity fraud

00:22:56.720 all kinds of things that go on all the time between women and men that this society won't talk about but

00:23:02.480 it fundamentally boils down to that relationships with with men who are unconscious about going about

00:23:10.080 them are a very dangerous thing to get involved in and they can be very dangerous even if you are

00:23:15.040 conscious uh about what's going on and the hypocritical thing too is that you know when they talk about

00:23:20.400 paternity fraud and okay so you know she had the milkman's kids but you know he was their dad and he

00:23:26.800 raised them as his own and he didn't even know they weren't his until you know he found out when

00:23:32.160 one of the kids needed a kidney or something like that and you know oh you know so but i mean

00:23:38.800 it shouldn't matter dna shouldn't matter and i'm i'm looking at this these two women in france about

00:23:46.400 10 years ago whose babies were switched at the hospital and they got like two and a half million euros

00:23:51.840 in compensation for that because they discovered it when their daughters were 15 that you know and

00:23:57.680 they loved their daughters but it mattered the dna mattered to them each of them went home with a

00:24:02.400 daughter it shouldn't dna shouldn't matter well apparently it matters to women so what is gynocentrism

00:24:08.640 i'm starting to learn like is that just like putting women on a pedestal essentially that's one

00:24:14.080 definition i think it's a a long standing for about the past thousand years since the what am i looking

00:24:21.440 for the advent of romantic chivalry blended with our natural biological predispositions but it

00:24:28.960 basically boils down to women matter men don't everything about women matters their health matters

00:24:34.960 more it's why we have a a department on women's health in the government and and nothing for men uh

00:24:41.040 it's why the courts are biased it's why the relationship rules are rigged to disadvantaged men

00:24:47.520 from the beginning uh we are supposed to be like seals clapping our flippers together for a piece

00:24:53.120 of fish and balancing a beach ball on our nose in order to win the the favor of women uh i mean

00:24:59.360 there's a million different ways that gynocentrism is expressed but i think that really does sum it up

00:25:05.360 it's just about women being elevated uh in importance over men in all matters i think i think when when

00:25:13.120 you look because i i look at it uh less from a sociological or historical context and more from

00:25:20.080 an evolutionary biological context and i think that when it comes to patriarchy and gynocentrism

00:25:26.320 are effectively uh fed by the same core impulses uh that are determined by our wetware right so this is

00:25:35.440 our operating system it's not the software that it's not the apps that we install afterwards you know

00:25:41.360 culture and stuff like that the apps can be very bad and i think that modern gynocentrism is very

00:25:46.880 much a set of really toxic apps but this is a fundamental operating system uh it's the it's what

00:25:53.120 got us through the place just in the mass extinction during the place to scene um which is patriarchy is

00:25:58.880 basically the recognition of of paternity and gender roles right gender division of labor in in terms of

00:26:06.000 patriarchy is is the ring of soldiers and hunters that surrounds the village and gynocentrism is the

00:26:14.960 women who are kept safe within that village to get down to their job of producing more people right of

00:26:22.080 producing offspring so when you look at when you look at it in that way you can see it as something

00:26:27.760 that is actually it's it's evolutionarily it makes sense it's you know it's why six other hominid

00:26:35.600 species went extinct during the place to scene um the neanderthalers being the most famous they didn't

00:26:42.560 have a gendered division of labor men women and children all engaged in big game hunting and their

00:26:49.760 skeletons have the fractures to prove it right female male and child so you're looking at you know once

00:26:57.040 they came across and they didn't have any domestic arts at all other than what they borrowed from from

00:27:02.640 us so basically what you're looking at is something that is actually really really well established

00:27:09.520 to promote survival uh to promote community uh cohesion right this gendered division of labor that

00:27:16.400 the gender roles for men and women men protect humans women produce humans right and that's just

00:27:23.360 that's just how it works and it worked really well then you got into all of these stages where

00:27:29.360 well we can give women a little bit more freedom or well we can give women a little bit more power

00:27:33.600 or we can give women a little bit more choice we can give women the ability to say no when their

00:27:38.720 husband says duck or hide but we're going to still hold him responsible if she takes an arrow to the

00:27:45.040 chest right um he's still the one to blame because he couldn't protect her right even though she didn't

00:27:51.920 have to obey him and so i mean you're looking at all of these corruptions of these very deeply ingrained

00:27:58.400 impulses that we have that we're born with that are very hard to purge this is why it's taken 150

00:28:04.560 years or more for men to actually start defending themselves against feminism and against this

00:28:11.120 campaign of anti-male hate is because they have it's counter to their natural impulses which are to

00:28:19.520 protect and provide for women you know because that's the best way to protect and provide for

00:28:25.040 their offspring right their their own offspring and their communities so it's like you you look at it

00:28:30.640 and it's it's just this massive hijacking of massive corrupt hijacking of our natural impulses that are

00:28:39.840 in my opinion pragmatic and morally neutral and we've just changed them and changed them and change

00:28:45.440 them and change them and always to ease up the rules for women and then somebody has to pick up that

00:28:50.400 slack so the rules get more more harsh on men you know and like back in the day uh when um when you

00:28:58.560 had uh if a woman was raped it was at least against the law right and it was against the law because she

00:29:05.600 might end up with a baby right that's basically the reason it was against the law she might end up with a

00:29:11.520 baby that did not that was would be born that would disadvantage her and it would be disadvantaged and all

00:29:18.560 of that because no father you know around to support them and all of that stuff right it's not even

00:29:25.760 just not a crime to lie about birth control it's written into canadian law that a woman who sabotages

00:29:33.680 or lies about birth control cannot be prosecuted for sexual assault and that was written into a decision

00:29:40.080 finding a man who poked holes in the condoms guilty of sexual assault i'd like to back up a little

00:29:45.840 bit and respectfully push back on some of that i don't agree with the biodeterminism in this at all

00:29:54.480 social customs around men and women have evolved and changed for centuries there is it's hard for me

00:30:00.800 to imagine a significant number of men which we're starting to see nowadays even having the opportunity

00:30:07.440 to go red pill if if this is so biologically determined uh i i don't i don't think it serves

00:30:15.600 us as a model because it takes choice out of the hands of men i mean factually i think it's incorrect

00:30:22.240 because we just have so much social history around gynocentrism uh and its evolution uh in socially with

00:30:30.960 human beings that i mean predating romantic chivalry courtly love uh people didn't even get married for

00:30:38.880 love they got married for practicality and yeah and that's all there is to it but i just i mean i've

00:30:46.720 in the end if a guy ends up in a place where he understands some model some understanding of

00:30:51.520 gynocentrism and can use that that model or that knowledge to protect himself i i think he's in good

00:30:57.520 shape but i prefer a little bit more personal control over my destiny than biology would allow

00:31:04.320 me oh yeah no i'm i'm not saying that i'm not saying that this is something that's written in

00:31:08.480 stone i'm saying that people have to have a meta awareness of what's going on in order to curtail

00:31:14.000 their own impulses and their own even even even i even i have a problem you remember the the egyptian

00:31:22.960 woman in the blue bra remember that video even i was horrified by that and i had to watch it a second

00:31:30.400 time to see what was going on with the men around and how they were getting much more brutally beaten

00:31:35.360 and lots of mras uh left comments under that video where i talked about it and they said they what they

00:31:41.760 didn't even realize that the men who were getting beaten in the same frame right were completely they

00:31:48.560 they were completely oblivious to those men and then they had to go back and watch and see how

00:31:53.520 much more brutally those men were being treated by egyptian police than that one woman right and they

00:31:58.960 had to go back and watch because they were like oh no she was like absolutely brutally stomped when in

00:32:03.760 reality the moment her burka fell open and they realized oh there is actually a woman under here

00:32:07.680 because a lot of men in the middle east will put on a burka to make trouble because women are supposedly

00:32:14.160 off limits for for state violence that they uh they realized that the moment her burka fell open and

00:32:20.160 and it was clear that that she was a woman one of the cops pushed another cop was like in the process

00:32:25.360 of jumping and you know going to kick her and he pushed her away and pushed that cop away so i have

00:32:30.560 a question so are you saying paul you're saying you don't think it's biological gynocentrism i think

00:32:36.560 there's biological elements to it absolutely i don't think we can deny that but i i think we also to

00:32:43.280 just idea as a biological mechanism alone i think misses the point okay you you know you can't you

00:32:50.160 can't capitulate to it i mean like it is biological in the sense that women want what they want when

00:32:54.960 they want it and as much as they can get you know like yes social norms between men and women have

00:32:59.920 changed through the centuries and all of that right but what what's always the core pattern right think

00:33:07.120 men make the environment safe uh and then women decide they want to go outside and then they

00:33:12.880 demand their men let them go outside they demand their men let them have freedom so the men say

00:33:18.080 okay and then they the women demand more and more freedom and more and more autonomy and more and

00:33:22.800 more agency and more and more ability to make their own decisions and not have to be obedient or not have

00:33:28.320 to like capitulate to any kind of restrictions and uh and then boom yeah now you can be a fat whore and

00:33:34.480 still be a wife and and then and then we're back then we're back to subsistence living where women

00:33:40.640 actually have to be obedient to their husbands because they actually really depend on their

00:33:45.120 husbands and that things aren't safe and nothing's plentiful and everybody's starving and and this

00:33:50.800 is why cato the elder said 2 000 years ago if you make women your equals they'll become your masters

00:33:56.960 that's right right so um you said before a thousand years ago there was no romantic love

00:34:02.080 love i'm sure there was the whole idea i mean there was infatuation i think that always has

00:34:07.760 the release of oxytocin chemical infatuation bonding between human beings was always there but

00:34:14.640 it was regarded as a form of insanity generally socially and and people saw no reason the idea of

00:34:22.800 getting married based on that infatuation would be was considered absolute insanity it just yeah your

00:34:29.200 parents would be so disappointed absolutely uh but then a woman eleanor of aquitaine her daughter

00:34:37.520 marie commissioned troubadours spread the word of romantic love and its elevation above all other

00:34:43.680 forms of love um and it caught on and it's it has come to be our standard ever since yeah no and and

00:34:51.760 what i find interesting about that too is that it's elevated above all other forms of love including

00:34:57.200 the love of god which you know and love of king yeah even as an atheist right i i can say you know

00:35:06.400 for the time that was a pretty ballsy statement and really really i i can't even imagine how she

00:35:13.680 wasn't like strung up on a rack i mean wasn't weren't they still burning it's because william um her

00:35:21.280 uh her her father i i believe her father or grandfather grandfather um was i think the world's

00:35:28.880 first simp uh carrying an image of his mistress on his shield into battle uh and he was what inspired

00:35:39.760 them they grew up watching him simp for all the women in his court uh and they turned it into a cottage

00:35:48.640 industry that spread throughout the world and does that work because i i had this thought wondering

00:35:53.920 if proposals were almost gynocentric because or like i was thinking more like feminist because the

00:35:59.920 guy's like going below the woman and i never i never thought about it it's like kind of he's on his

00:36:04.960 knees yeah i was like he's on his knees begging yeah to be his economic dependent for the rest of his life

00:36:14.560 and he's purchasing her with a ring that cost him three months salary well and even i had a thought

00:36:21.680 i started googling the average price of a wedding and i was thinking about how the price of weddings

00:36:26.720 has gone up but the value of brides is like so low because i i had this thought where because i got into

00:36:33.120 the red pill and they're like want modern women bring nothing and i'm like what do you mean we bring

00:36:36.800 nothing and then i started going through the stats and i was like oh we've like as a group one out of

00:36:42.480 three of us had an abortion one out of three has an std i'm like we have like one point something

00:36:47.760 kids i'm like god damn this is not good with a shout out to erin clary there's lots of women who want

00:36:54.640 to get married and have families there's very few who want to be wives and mothers yeah yeah that that

00:37:01.200 was really the the thing you know like it wasn't hard for me to find my first husband uh you know he

00:37:08.000 find a man who was willing to actually go into a marriage a very traditional marriage right with

00:37:14.480 stay-at-home mom uh at least in as much as possible financially and um even when i went back to work

00:37:21.600 our kids never went to daycare uh they were never with a babysitter they you know i just took jobs that

00:37:28.960 were on opposite shifts from my husband and he stayed home one of us was home with them and uh

00:37:34.320 uh and you know i did a whole bunch of really traditional things uh around the house you know

00:37:39.760 i cooked from scratch i bought cloth diapers that you have to hold fold and pin you know i i rescued and

00:37:45.760 refurbished furniture i did everything i possibly could to uh squeeze every bit of value out of every

00:37:53.360 single penny so that i could afford to stay home and uh but you know it's it's very very difficult i think

00:38:00.320 to find uh a woman these days who would be willing to not just do all of those things domestically

00:38:08.240 including being the handyman around the house and things like that plunging your own toilet

00:38:12.480 and and all of those things because this is what you know i was basically a farm wife living in a small

00:38:17.520 town um but uh it's hard to find a woman like that and uh and it's hard to find a woman who's who's

00:38:25.920 willing to actually commit to that lifestyle right like so to find one comp you can't even find a

00:38:32.880 woman who can cook these days half the time right you know they know how to microwave a lean cuisine

00:38:38.320 that's about it and um yeah like they and they and one who's willing to commit long term right like

00:38:45.600 long term at least until the kids are basically grown and uh next to impossible to find somebody who

00:38:54.800 actually wants to do those things um it was not hard for me to find a man who wanted to live that

00:39:00.480 way yeah that's what that's what i found there's there's been positive in that though in that uh you

00:39:07.680 know in my household i'm in a relationship of 21 years now very happily connected in that way but uh i i

00:39:15.440 am the cook in the house because i don't want to eat inferior food that's that's what my oldest says he says

00:39:24.400 he's the cook because uh he and my uh daughter live together they share a duplex and um they're

00:39:32.240 because they're like 15 months apart like they're just like uh joined at the hip kind of and um but

00:39:39.840 yeah he does all the cooking because he wouldn't eat the the swill that rachel makes so but you know

00:39:44.720 something i i gotta say yeah and i hope women someday wake up to this if you can be replaced

00:39:53.440 by somebody who can push a broom and use a skillet maybe you're not bringing enough to a relationship

00:40:00.320 yeah yeah no if he can if he can pay uh 200 300 a week to have somebody come in

00:40:07.760 and do those services including the dick sucking um once a week uh then

00:40:14.800 you know like why are you here right you you have to you have to actually bring some kind of and you

00:40:23.600 know sex is part of that of course so because um no no man gets married just praying that he'll never

00:40:31.840 have sex again yeah well that was that that was like a red pill too i was like are these wives not

00:40:36.800 sleeping with their husbands i was like what it's so i didn't realize how common it was

00:40:42.000 like i started interviewing these guys in divorce and it was always like the same story it was like

00:40:46.720 oh she it was like an accidental pregnancy early on then he marries her and then she just stopped

00:40:52.640 sleeping with him after the kids i was like what the hell she'll stop sleeping with him he'll go sexless

00:40:57.920 for three years and then she'll wig up because she finds out he's looking at porn yeah wow yeah that's

00:41:04.400 that's the insane thing yeah no this this madam in australia she wrote a piece in i think it was a sydney

00:41:09.840 morning herald or something like that where she basically was saying wives be better right because

00:41:15.200 she says she she wrote that half of her escorts right when they go on a date there's not even any

00:41:22.720 sex they lie in bed with the guy and cuddle and he tells them all of his heart's deepest secrets across

00:41:30.480 the pillow because he can't safely disclose those things to his wife he does not feel safe to do that

00:41:37.520 and i'm like jesus christ so these guys are paying like 200 an hour for somebody to talk to pillow

00:41:44.880 therapy do you know what i started asking guys i'd be like okay if you're on a first date and a girl

00:41:49.840 just said to you i don't know anything i know nothing but i'm willing to learn would you go on

00:41:55.200 another date with her they're all like yeah that sounds amazing i'm like oh no i would i would

00:42:01.280 test her a lot more than that yeah well but you'd go you'd go on no but i was i know but i was just

00:42:07.360 thinking i was just thinking like wow that's like the bar is so low they're like i can teach her she

00:42:13.680 listens that's it well i tell you what that's more than a lot of guys get yeah do you think feminism

00:42:21.920 was responsible for the breakdown of relationships today or do you think it started before that

00:42:27.280 i think it's a synergism of sort of the modern day simp and feminism i mean it's really easy to point

00:42:37.840 the finger at feminism it's such a corrupt ideology practiced by very corrupt selfish narcissistic often

00:42:45.200 personality disordered people so it's an easy target and it's certainly deserving of the

00:42:51.360 criticism that it gets uh but i think that the the social gynocentrism that we practice today the

00:42:58.000 the the way men just capitulate to totally disrespecting themselves life on their knees

00:43:05.280 groveling before women that is a really big problem i would argue worse than feminism wait so just quick

00:43:13.040 can i have a couple examples of that well i i think that um i'll give you a a short story as an

00:43:19.840 example i was furniture shopping with my partner a few years back and we were picking out a new sofa

00:43:25.760 for the living room and the salesman happened to be an african-american man i'd say in his mid 40s

00:43:32.640 had a crucifix on his lapel nice armani suit very sharp dress guy and he's showing us around and three or

00:43:42.720 four times he made reference saying we all know who's making the decision here don't we

00:43:49.600 his his implication was that i had no voice in this purchase that i was about to make that i had to defer

00:43:57.120 to her and i finally turned to him and said you know what that's not how it works here and he was

00:44:03.760 shocked he was absolutely stunned that i said something like that that's one of 10 million examples

00:44:11.520 man if you want to see simping go on twitter you'll see it everywhere guys running to the

00:44:18.720 rescue of the most vicious nasty hoes you can possibly imagine guys rushing in to defend her

00:44:27.040 honor and to defend all women's honor paul but it's something you can actually do it's absolutely

00:44:33.600 disgusting it's the most disgusting to me these guys are worse than men who who actually do abuse women

00:44:40.640 and they're much more common much more common you think they're worse than men that abuse women

00:44:45.760 yes i do i think they do more damage yeah what they role model to young men uh to boys and the girls

00:44:54.640 in terms of what their expectations are of men they set future men up to have to emulate that behavior

00:45:02.560 in order to stay in good social crisis yeah and i think i think that yeah no i think because the

00:45:08.800 reason that it is the reason it's more dangerous the reason it's more uh insidious is because it is

00:45:15.200 considered the socially appropriate way for men to behave um you know everybody everybody is horrified

00:45:23.360 when a man strikes a woman when a man hits a woman everybody is like there's no normalizing that you go

00:45:29.920 back 100 200 400 500 years nobody liked it when that happened right nobody at all not even the catholic

00:45:38.480 church in the 1450s right um they did not like spousal abuse they did not like anybody any man raising a

00:45:47.600 hand to any woman um it was just not something that was considered socially acceptable people would

00:45:54.320 turn and look away they would pretend not to see it but they had to turn and look away from it they

00:46:02.720 weren't saying yeah yeah you tell her how it is hit punch her again they weren't doing that they weren't

00:46:09.200 doing that right but now they'll freak out if you disagree with a woman yeah yelling is abuse now i guess

00:46:18.320 that's what crowder was just abusing his wife you know although the silent the silent treatment is

00:46:24.400 also spousal abuse and gaslighting i learned this i'm like you don't talk to her yes oh isn't that

00:46:30.240 stonewalling no they say these psychologists make up these like crazy terms i'm like what the hell that

00:46:37.360 sounds like a good term as any i haven't heard stonewalling but i don't doubt that they're using it

00:46:42.800 because they you can take any normal form of behavior in men and it will be called abusive

00:46:52.080 and the opposite of that behavior will be called abusive too so it just it really doesn't matter

00:46:58.000 well and it's interesting i i didn't under i think the first time we talked i was like wow this guy

00:47:02.640 really hates simp but it's weird it's like once you once you like see it you can't unsee it or you're

00:47:07.360 like they're just like lying like women it's like okay we're just such idiots i mean

00:47:12.480 i like i mean not all of us but a lot like we just believe damn near anything it's so crazy but

00:47:17.760 it's like the guys like they know so i'm like why are you lying like they'll come on my show and say

00:47:23.520 they like women that have slept around they'll come on the show and say there's nothing wrong with

00:47:28.480 their 37 year old sister who's never dated anybody and i'm just like well like you know that's not true

00:47:35.680 it's just like once you see it you just can't kind of like do i hate look at all the people that say

00:47:40.320 women can do anything men can do which is confidently untrue it's it's so untrue that it's

00:47:47.040 it's laughable laughably untrue and the whole of society will nod their heads like bobbleheads

00:47:54.880 oh yeah no when barack obama said a woman can do anything a man can do uh and better and in heels

00:48:03.280 and everybody's like oh yeah oh yeah and i'm just like are you are you freaking kidding me get up there

00:48:09.360 in that cherry picker and fix that power pole bitch well and i played sports so like uh i'm

00:48:16.560 like you realize how much stronger dudes are i'm like i'm like top one percent if you look at how

00:48:21.760 tall i am strength it's probably similar i could deadlift like 300 pounds that's that's a lot for a

00:48:27.680 chick but for a chick do you know i mean like even an average guy can out bench me you know what i mean

00:48:32.560 like it's not and it's like i've trained 16 years to out bench or out deadlift like i don't know a

00:48:39.760 couple guys maybe who don't train and are obese like yeah yeah yeah no and it's like you're looking

00:48:46.400 at the canadian uh olympic uh women's hockey team you know they spar with um not even midget triple a

00:48:54.800 but uh basically the up to 15 year old category right mid to triple latest 15 to 18 and uh they

00:49:02.800 practice with them and they routinely lose the australian women's soccer team they train they

00:49:08.640 they train against uh 15 and under boys teams and they routinely well and they all they do is complain

00:49:15.760 they whine about the pay when i'm like you're lucky to even have a league like yeah like they complain

00:49:23.360 about the pay that they're actually getting by siphoning off of men's sports which is exactly what

00:49:29.360 happens that is i literally said i was like if i was the guys i would just cut it because i was like

00:49:34.400 they all we do is complain and about the pam like i would just cut it i would just cut the whole league

00:49:39.280 you want to about it and i love sports but i'm like no one's watching it yeah well and and the the

00:49:45.200 idea that you're going to get the idea that you're going to get male fans of say the nba right of

00:49:52.240 basketball to watch women's basketball is is laughable i mean maybe there will be some um but not a lot

00:50:02.800 and women just generally aren't sports fans in particular right like they i went to a hockey

00:50:08.880 game once it was it was we don't normally go to even though my husband was a hockey player and and

00:50:15.040 you know he uh uh he he really likes the sport um we don't we don't go to hockey games but uh it was

00:50:23.440 part of a christmas party or something like that that his uh his employers bought everybody hockey

00:50:29.600 tickets and we went there and we we were seated next to these two couples and the guys were like

00:50:36.400 totally into the game and the two women with their probably 200 a piece tickets seats just

00:50:45.120 sat there and gossiped the whole time they didn't even notice when someone scored my dad's totally

00:50:50.000 done that with me where they he brings me to like really good like seats for like a game or whatever

00:50:55.040 i don't care and i played sports and i don't even like watching it like and i played

00:51:00.320 the one thing all those women who come to to high dollar sporting events and gossip through the

00:51:07.280 whole thing all have in common is that they did not pay for those tickets oh yeah yeah no i go with

00:51:13.360 my dad well i mean like i i was on my feet cheering and stuff because hey this is my hometown it's my

00:51:19.920 hometown team edmonton oilers and they were playing real good against the vancouver canucks and i hated the

00:51:25.920 fucking vancouver canucks and uh because they betrayed me but um with their stupid goalie dan

00:51:31.840 cluce curse you but um but yeah no i actually had to stop watching hockey for about 10 years because

00:51:37.760 of that guy back when i was living in british columbia but uh but yeah no it's it's like uh you you have

00:51:44.320 uh a very small pool of women who are actually interested in sports in terms of buying tickets like

00:51:51.200 i'm not in terms of buying tickets i'm not interested and then um in terms of uh of actually

00:51:57.280 watching the games and being interested in sports in general you know you've you've got very very low

00:52:04.400 numbers of women who are who are likely to they they literally went somebody somebody literally went

00:52:10.800 out on the street and offered somebody a free ticket to a wmba game or a one dollar bill and the dude

00:52:21.040 took the one dollar bill and he just went around between people i played i think maybe and they

00:52:25.840 all took the dollar down you know what's so funny i'm 26 about 27. i think i started playing basketball

00:52:31.440 and i was like six or seven i played for 20 years i would pick the hundred dollar bill well it was a

00:52:35.920 one dollar bill or something it was it was like way less value than the ticket i think the ticket was

00:52:41.680 only i'm curious how has social media changed relationships between men and women because when i when

00:52:48.560 social media came to the scene i was pretty young so i think i got my first like facebook when i was

00:52:53.760 in eighth grade so i was like 12 maybe so it like as far as i really remember social media has just

00:53:00.080 always been there but i'm curious from your point of view like how has it changed it for the better

00:53:05.600 really i yeah i think we're seeing the beginnings of changes for the better the thing that is so great

00:53:11.520 about social media is that the alternative narrative to this romantic model this gynocentric

00:53:17.120 bullshit that's been running the world is that that stuff would never be expressed first in real

00:53:23.440 world real real real world terms you would not you don't have people at parties you know talking

00:53:30.240 about screw marriage i would never ever trust a woman with all my assets and walk into the family

00:53:36.400 courts that's not party discourse in real world terms but through social media we have the opportunity

00:53:43.680 to spread information and to talk about an alternative way for men to view their own lives

00:53:50.240 in ways that we've never had before it's why we have red pill movements why we have mgtow it's why we've

00:53:57.040 got a lot of things going on that would you know there was like versions of of mgtow in the past

00:54:03.120 bachelor's clubs and stuff like that very very small portion of the population very local

00:54:09.280 yeah and nowadays it's it's worldwide and it's amazing how many men actually do start rethinking

00:54:16.800 their own lives when when they start getting exposed to information that makes them see things

00:54:23.120 that they've been trained to not see their whole lives i think it has a great positive impact in that

00:54:28.960 way it's going to be rough and bloody at first i think men need to honestly we're seeing men now

00:54:36.160 finally getting in touch with their anger about this lopsided deal that they've always had and

00:54:42.080 that sentiment is growing there's going to be growing pains involved in that we're talking about

00:54:47.840 you know we talked about the the slowness of this before keep in mind that from seneca falls until

00:54:54.160 women got voting rights was 70 years and it was another 40 50 years after that before gender feminism

00:55:01.280 raised its ugly head in society these things are like big lumbering ships they're not like sports

00:55:07.760 cars that turn on a dime and change directions uh but it's happening and i think it's happening on a

00:55:14.000 bigger scale it's why you see so much panic in the so-called conservative right about men who won't get

00:55:20.800 married and who are challenging all this stuff uh this is starting to scare people which it ought to do

00:55:27.360 yeah no i i would say too i mean like social media has turned dating into twitter you know and and not

00:55:33.840 just social media but like these dating apps bumble and tinder and grinder and all of that stuff i mean

00:55:40.000 even online dating even internet dating is not what it was when i was doing it when i met my husband my the

00:55:47.600 one that just put coffee in the microwave if i freeze up that's why it really has sort of cheapened the

00:55:55.680 whole process of dating but it's also i think woken a lot of men up to the fact that you know you can

00:56:03.120 you can be a reasonably attractive guy a six or a seven uh you can have a good income you can have

00:56:08.960 you know be in a good place in your life you know like i i own a condo and uh and i work as um as a

00:56:16.400 technician or an engineer or something like that and i make 80k a year and uh and i'm i'm doing good and

00:56:23.360 i'm debt free and all of that stuff right and swipe left swipe left swipe left woman after woman swipe

00:56:29.440 left swipe left because you're 5 10 you're not six feet tall right or because you're uh you have a bit

00:56:38.320 of a uh of a big nose or you know or you're not uh you haven't it's it's oh they'll only date six and

00:56:46.640 six six six feet six figures right and and that's it so i think it's i think not just social media and

00:56:56.560 the spreading of the word on social media sort of the democratization of information that occurs through

00:57:02.400 social media it's not just that it's men's experience of women's absolute pickiness and their

00:57:10.880 they're unbelievably high standards so you've got you've got an overweight woman right who says i

00:57:17.600 won't date anyone less than six feet tall and if the guy asks her well how much do you weigh they won't

00:57:23.760 date fat guys either i've interviewed these chicks oh i know i know and you know like i used to write

00:57:29.840 smut for women right and there was a whole genre of smut for women called bbw big beautiful woman and

00:57:36.640 she was always lizzo and he was always freaking brad pitt yeah i i just uh to dovetail a little

00:57:45.440 bit off of what karen just said the way i look at it is that on the other side of men getting better

00:57:51.920 more information and seeing women more clearly than they ever have we have the negative effects of

00:57:58.640 social media dating apps in that you have women's that are literally threes and fours who behave and

00:58:05.920 act like they're eights and nines because of all the attention they get through dating apps they

00:58:11.520 misinterpret this flood of male attention which is just how men are uh chasing women they misinterpret

00:58:18.480 that as making them more valuable than they are i'm sure a lot of those women don't get any dates at

00:58:25.120 all that are ever going to satisfy them well right well they they start to think they look like they're

00:58:30.400 filters it's like a weird phenomenon no i'm swear i excel these girls will come on my show and i'm

00:58:35.680 like i'll be talking to them and sometimes i'll follow them on instagram after and i'm like who is

00:58:41.680 this do you know what i mean or or sometimes they'll take a picture like with me after the show and i don't

00:58:47.920 really use filters like that but they they'll it's like automatic when you take a picture and i'm like

00:58:53.120 god damn like this just gave me like two points this is amazing like i'm like but they start to think

00:58:58.880 they're actually that hot with these filters they like automatically make your nose a little smaller

00:59:04.160 your smile a little wider your skin a little smoother i'm like i think these chicks like literally think

00:59:09.840 they look like that yeah no and i'm looking at myself right now and it's like i haven't worn makeup

00:59:14.960 in 10 years and you know there's this thing it runs in my dad's family um where once you hit 50

00:59:21.520 what used to be flatteringly described as natural eye shadow because i never had to wear eyeshadow

00:59:30.080 because i always had natural darker coloring on my eyelids right now it just becomes raccoon eyes and

00:59:36.880 yeah no so i i'm i'm looking at myself and i'm just like well what the do i care i'm 52 years old

00:59:41.920 i'm not on the market now these like you'll see these like madonna 50 something year old chicks where

00:59:46.720 they're like they're it's like you know yeah stretch stretch real tight yeah no they've had

00:59:52.000 that's so appealing yeah they've had they've had 13 adjustments of their little cranks to like

00:59:59.040 pull the and like 30 years the the the the leather face a little bit tighter well and they were trying

01:00:06.480 to market um botox to me like in my early 20s like i i had yeah and i'm like what the what do i need

01:00:13.680 boats i'm like 24 like i'm in 27 now almost but back then i was like i was 24 i'm like you're ready

01:00:20.720 you want me to get on boat like what's that going to look like in 20 30 years you're going to be like

01:00:25.040 frozen yeah i've never liked that the bow portion of botox is botulism and the talks part of botox is

01:00:35.280 toxin botulism toxin what do you what do you i'm curious what you guys see for the future

01:00:41.440 because like for me it's interesting because i have i have like ideas of policies that i think

01:00:47.680 were bad so like i don't think women really should have voted i'm not really a fan of no fault divorce

01:00:52.400 but part of me is like i don't know if you can go back and maybe like there's ways they have to adapt

01:00:58.320 into the future so i i don't know i'm not i'm not actually sure exactly what policies i prescribe

01:01:04.000 moving forward except that women shouldn't vote but but i'm curious like what you guys think i don't know

01:01:09.440 if my my thoughts on that is i don't focus so much on policy i really i think men's solutions

01:01:15.920 certainly aren't political or legal i don't want to start building state-funded battered men's shelters

01:01:23.120 or or or anything like that but what i i think has to happen in the future and probably will happen

01:01:29.920 is that men and women will have to renegotiate a social contract at some point to something that is

01:01:37.520 more fair and i would also say i think there's going to be a long time before that happens where

01:01:45.280 women find out what it's like to live in a population of men who are angry and don't give a

01:01:50.480 shit about their problems i think that's coming we've got young men in high school now are staunchly

01:01:56.960 anti-feminist and moving to the right uh and yet they're not embracing traditional gynocentrism at all

01:02:04.560 uh when this generation of men that generation comes of age some women are going to get some

01:02:11.360 very rude awakenings and the the sad part of it is and i know some guys will tell me paul it's not

01:02:18.000 sad it's sad to me is that the women who are going to ultimately suffer for the sins of their mothers

01:02:23.920 and grandmothers and great grandmothers are not the ones who did this stuff but they're still going to be

01:02:29.760 the ones left in the lurch when men quit participating in this rigged game so you you

01:02:36.000 think that men are going to keep like start walking away from marriage walking away from relationships

01:02:40.800 walking away from children they've already started yeah yeah no i agree until i mean it's it's like that

01:02:47.840 that uh recent report came out 63 of young men uh haven't even tried to go on a date in the last year

01:02:57.040 they're walking away all right and they're angry you can't be brought up in a north american school

01:03:02.880 system as a male and and not have some repressed anger or some expressed anger out of that because

01:03:09.920 these guys have been on their their whole academic lives uh it's it is and i agree with karen i think

01:03:16.480 it'll have to collapse first uh but the beginning of the collapse is when men generally speaking start

01:03:23.520 withdrawing support from women when they start taking care of themselves everything is going

01:03:29.040 to go to hell so especially for women so with um so i'm i'm curious like what would a more fair contract

01:03:36.320 look like and what is the collapse going to look like okay well a more fair contract i think would

01:03:41.920 be something that could be negotiated between partners right like if i mean like we my husband and i

01:03:51.520 we have a verbal like a handshake deal and we trust each other to hold up our ends of the bargain and

01:03:58.320 then if things get a little bit untenable for one of us we will sit down at the bargaining table and

01:04:05.120 see if we need to renegotiate right and that's how we do things and we actually look at we actually kind

01:04:11.040 of approach the relationship very similar to a contract it's it's it is actually you know this is

01:04:18.240 what i agreed to do that's what you agreed to do so part of that might actually be introducing something

01:04:24.720 that muslims have been doing for uh ages which is um the not the bride gift but the actual contract

01:04:33.680 where you hash out exactly what's expected of each partner um before you tie the knot but honestly i think

01:04:41.600 that uh i think that uh i think that one of the things that you could do policy wise that would

01:04:47.360 really put a damper on women's willingness to throw away marriages is default shared parenting right

01:04:55.920 because you know you can only read so many articles with titles like the agony of being a 50 50 mom

01:05:03.840 very sympathetic oh these poor women right they missed their they might have missed their daughter's

01:05:09.680 first steps or their son's first words because he was they were with their dad at the time

01:05:17.200 right and you know and she has to share custody 50 with her her ex-husband and and it's just so

01:05:25.280 horrible for these women well yeah if it's that horrible let's freaking implement it and maybe these

01:05:30.000 women won't be so quick to throw away their husbands i personally uh i think a part of the negotiation

01:05:36.640 is an individual thing um 25 years ago i made the decision that hey if you're gainfully employed

01:05:43.360 you better find your purse when the check arrives and and carry your share because i don't care if i

01:05:50.000 had 10 million in the bank i wouldn't finance a relationship with a woman um and i i had there were

01:05:57.600 times but before i met my current partner that yeah i sprang for a couple of dinners so i could get sex

01:06:03.520 okay no problem uh it wasn't well received in the end but you know that's the game i chose to play

01:06:11.600 it better than they did uh but for me it starts with with personal accountability financially if you

01:06:19.520 have to show up bringing your your labor your sweat to the relationship in order to help build it it gives

01:06:26.480 you a better investment in it and it doesn't end up with men getting used for their money uh there's

01:06:32.800 nothing that that i hate more than to hear a woman complain just because you bought me dinner doesn't

01:06:38.720 mean you get to have sex well then pay for your own dinner yeah like that if you don't want to hear

01:06:45.360 that from men pay your own way and of course if you if you insist that now i lost uh i went through

01:06:52.640 probably 20 women before i met my partner who once they came up against that financial wall decided they

01:06:59.120 weren't so interested in me and that was just fine with me because i saved myself another divorce rate

01:07:06.480 by going for a little bit better class of woman if a woman expects to be able to make money and to pay

01:07:14.880 her own bills and to have her own autonomy and independent but not contribute to a relationship

01:07:22.720 financially she's a hoe yep do you think there'll ever be a return to traditionalism yes yeah i do too

01:07:29.280 you know like okay 33 trillion 33.1 trillion in debt it's not a whole lot better in canada my kids

01:07:36.720 my older two kids were born each with owing 38 000 in taxpayer debt during covid that went up to more than

01:07:45.760 100 000 that all three of my kids owe to future creditors to people collecting on those debts in

01:07:53.840 the future so you know you're you're looking at the system that we've set up that basically it sticks

01:08:00.720 a an expensive bloated bureaucratic middleman in between men and women so where whereas a man and

01:08:08.160 a woman would get together and they would bark and they would decide between them how they wanted their

01:08:13.280 relationship to work and who does what and all of those things right and they would get together

01:08:18.160 they would raise children what we now have is a situation where you have this gigantic bloated

01:08:24.720 money-hungry middleman taking a cut of every transfer of money that goes from men to women

01:08:31.680 i mean like when you look at child support laws title 4d basically what that did was it said well for

01:08:38.400 every dollar of child support money a state child support agency can extract forcibly extract from

01:08:45.440 a man they will get a dollar in federal transfers so the state is basically what the state does is

01:08:54.800 they say okay well we're we're gonna pay for you to be on welfare and support your kids but we don't

01:09:00.640 want to pay the whole cost of that right so we're gonna go after the father of these kids and extract

01:09:06.160 every single penny of child support money we can from him and we're going to deduct that off of

01:09:11.920 your welfare check so the children will be no better off but we will because then for every dollar

01:09:17.280 we extracted from that man we get another dollar from the federal government in grant money yay federal

01:09:23.280 transfers woo we've doubled our money by nailing men to the wall and letting women do whatever the

01:09:29.200 they want and nobody's better off everybody's worse off and this whole system is only held together

01:09:35.200 by the illusion of our great grandchildren's projected productivity that's it that's it that's

01:09:42.160 all that's holding it together 33.1 trillion dollars that falls on the working people today

01:09:49.360 and next generation and the next generation and the next one right to pay that back or just let it

01:09:54.960 keep ballooning and once we can no longer afford to pay but sustain this system and men and women

01:10:00.880 have to go back to actually bargaining as individuals as to what they want their relationships

01:10:06.560 to look like and and work like and all of that right then you're gonna see some women willing to

01:10:12.240 actually sit down at the negotiating table because they don't have that bureaucratic muscle standing

01:10:17.120 behind them going no you're gonna pay and you're gonna pay what we tell you how long do you think it'll

01:10:22.480 be till that happens till they stop like backing up women's bad decisions with child support alimony and

01:10:29.680 government i hope it's i hope it's till the day after i die hey yeah yeah no me too like i i well i i hope

01:10:37.520 it when my kids die if i don't have grandchildren because like it's going to be it's not going to be a

01:10:43.520 pleasant transition women are going to be so used to getting all of this free stuff you know and when you

01:10:49.680 look at new zealand and the the numbers they came out with a few years ago where they actually looked

01:10:54.480 at the cumulative contribution into the tax system of men and women right from birth to death right and

01:11:01.760 they found that the only people who actually pay taxes who actually pay net taxes are men between the

01:11:08.720 ages of four and 65 40 and 65 that's when those are the only people who are actually contributing putting

01:11:14.880 in more than they take out and they peak at 65 in terms of their net contribution and that's when when

01:11:22.480 they retire and then they start pulling out of the system and by the time they're 80 they're at zero

01:11:28.240 they have made no net contribution how do you sustain that right and women never get above negative

01:11:33.200 fifty thousand dollars right i don't think anybody can really predict with any kind of accuracy when it's

01:11:39.440 going when but but i do believe that it will happen and when it does it's going to be incredibly fast

01:11:46.080 and incredibly ugly and then you will see the negotiations between men and women for the social

01:11:51.920 contract are going to change radically after that collapse it'll be like oh it's going to be just like

01:11:58.160 run to their friend zone they're like they're like oh you know all those years i put you in the friend

01:12:06.560 zone i don't know what i was thinking i just i was so silly i just didn't recognize how hot you were

01:12:16.640 yeah no you're you're you're the tom hanks to my meg ryan you know why you're like the hottest guy

01:12:24.000 i've ever seen in my life ever i just don't even because you're the one who's willing to touch my vagina

01:12:30.240 and like protect me thank you guys for coming on the guy this is actually interesting because i've

01:12:37.280 been thinking a lot about like what you know the future holds with everything that's going on so

01:12:42.800 it's kind of interesting to talk to people that have had a little bit more time to think about this

01:12:46.800 stuff so um thank you guys both for coming on um could you tell the people where they could find you

01:12:52.160 okay you can find me at paul elam.com but more importantly go to paul elam.com forward slash xy

01:12:59.760 crew and read up about what we're doing with our men's groups talking about all of this stuff and

01:13:06.000 figuring out how we're dealing with this through life it's great stuff you can join us there and

01:13:10.560 you can find me on my channel girl writes what on youtube it's fairly defunct but it has like a

01:13:16.640 massive hours and hours and hours of back catalog that are could easily serve and i was actually

01:13:23.680 learning when i was doing those so i mean it would be like a great primer for anybody who's interested

01:13:29.200 in any of these things to kind of go back and watch watch those videos in order and you can also find

01:13:34.400 me on the site formerly known as prince i mean twitter under at girl writes what and i also have a blog

01:13:43.040 that i rarely post on but occasionally do called owning your dot blogspot.com um you can go there

01:13:50.320 and i have a very recent post uh that details all the reasons why yeah also please come follow me on

01:13:56.320 twitter at real paul elam yeah at real paul elam yeah he's he's always he's always i have the blue

01:14:03.440 check mark i'll have you know yeah he's always adding these simps too it's awesome i'm always retweeting

01:14:09.840 we we went on the daily wire this weekend it was all it was awesome i was like this is amazing i

01:14:15.040 went from watching these guys to tweeting at them and they're recognizing me i'm like what a day yeah

01:14:21.200 no the the the simps the simps really need to be uh saved yeah right they need to be rescued from

01:14:28.400 themselves yeah well and it's also like oh my gosh once you can't you can't unsee it like the nagging

01:14:35.200 wife so it's like you can kind of you can kind of see who's like controlled by their wives based

01:14:40.480 on like the things they say or like because they're all mad their daily wire was mad a couple months

01:14:46.320 ago because i put let me ask my wife with a barfing emoji next to it they are easily triggered they're

01:14:55.520 like and they're like well what if she's my assistant and i'm like i mean i have an assistant i certainly

01:15:01.200 don't ask her like like i tell her what i'm doing i don't ask her you know what i mean like i might

01:15:07.200 like i might ask like what am i like what's the schedule this week but i'm not asking permission

01:15:13.360 yeah you'd make a make a lousy simp yeah yeah i know um okay guys um make sure you go follow subscribe

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01:15:32.560 got i've heard you i it's not just women okay but it's got to start with the women because it's just

01:15:38.720 i don't even understand these campaigns we just believe anything you see the clothes they convince

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JustPearlyThings - October 01, 2023

The HIDDEN Meaning Of Feminism ｜ @girlwriteswhat @AnEarforMen

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