JustPearlyThings - April 05, 2023


The Hidden TRUTH On ABORTION

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In this episode, we are joined by Ruth, a human rights activist, to talk about abortion. She talks about her own experience with an abortion and gives us a behind the scenes look at what it's like to be pregnant at 10-24 weeks into a pregnancy.

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00:00:00.000 So since the pandemic, basically, they allowed, they changed the law to allow these abortion 0.97
00:00:06.920 pills to be sent by post to people's homes, which causes all sorts of issues because many
00:00:11.560 women don't know how far along they are. 1.00
00:00:13.760 So you're only meant to have the pills up to about 10 weeks.
00:00:17.380 And, you know, there's been stories of people having it 12, 13, 14, 15 weeks and ended up
00:00:24.140 in hospital and hemorrhaging and things like that.
00:00:26.460 And so, yeah, just being sent and they, yeah, they're literally saying the instructions
00:00:30.440 to flush the baby or the products of conception down the toilet.
00:00:35.800 So, yeah, I'm sorry you had to see that.
00:00:38.240 No, no, it's all right.
00:00:39.440 You have to sort of go over that.
00:00:41.720 I did not know how.
00:00:43.180 Yeah.
00:00:43.560 Do you want to show the video?
00:00:45.180 I actually have not seen this video.
00:00:46.720 I don't know what it is.
00:00:51.740 What do you think about abortion?
00:00:53.520 Each individual, it's up to them what they want to do.
00:00:56.080 I think everybody should be allowed the right.
00:00:58.420 I'm not really for it or against it.
00:01:00.040 Everyone has a right to kind of do what they feel is right in their own life.
00:01:04.720 So what I want to show you now is a short one-minute video of what an abortion procedure
00:01:08.300 looks like at various stages from 10 to 24 weeks.
00:01:12.080 Oh.
00:01:16.180 That baby is too big to be doing now.
00:01:20.080 Oh, I love it.
00:01:22.960 Oh, wait.
00:01:23.600 Sorry, I don't think I can do it.
00:01:28.180 Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:01:29.020 I can't look at it.
00:01:31.660 Sorry.
00:01:32.100 So that's the video.
00:01:42.200 That was...
00:01:42.960 Those babies were fully small.
00:01:46.160 They wasn't even like it was...
00:01:47.660 They had hands.
00:01:49.140 I didn't know it was like that.
00:01:50.940 That's a body.
00:01:51.940 That's a full role.
00:01:54.580 It's fully developed.
00:01:55.660 That shouldn't...
00:01:57.920 That really shouldn't be right.
00:02:00.260 That's technically...
00:02:01.440 Even though the baby may not be out, that's technically...
00:02:05.380 I'll relate that to murder.
00:02:06.520 I don't think I've just been cutting up babies like her. 0.98
00:02:11.280 No. 0.51
00:02:14.180 I'm a bit speechless, actually.
00:02:16.840 It is a person.
00:02:18.180 And people don't realise that a lot.
00:02:20.020 People think, oh, it's just a bunch of cells and that.
00:02:22.320 To the point.
00:02:22.920 But, you know, three months and on, you can really see the formation and everything.
00:02:29.260 So, yeah.
00:02:35.240 So, is abortion footage suppressed on Google or something?
00:02:42.520 Because I tried to do a show...
00:02:44.920 I haven't done abortion in a while, but I did this in the summer, I think.
00:02:49.800 And I, like, could not find a lot of images on it, like, at all.
00:02:54.900 Yeah.
00:02:56.400 Well, it's definitely suppressed somewhat.
00:03:00.280 They'll probably, on social media, they'll probably blur it out.
00:03:03.720 Because, I mean, in YouTube, we had an abortion video up and they took it down on YouTube.
00:03:10.140 But then we kind of said, well, you know, you say it's a medical procedure.
00:03:13.380 So, why can't we have medical procedures on YouTube?
00:03:16.340 So, they reinstated it, but covered it.
00:03:18.280 Or, it was only if you're subscribed and over 18.
00:03:21.540 So, yeah, it's definitely suppressed.
00:03:23.480 Definitely suppressed.
00:03:24.580 But you can see, you know, when people see it, they really do change their minds.
00:03:28.420 And, you know, people can go to abortionreality.com and see abortion for themselves.
00:03:34.760 When you say we, Ruth, sorry, I know we've never met before.
00:03:37.980 Who do you represent or work for?
00:03:40.020 What is your...
00:03:40.780 I work for an organisation called CBR UK.
00:03:43.840 So, the Centre for Bioethical Reform UK.
00:03:46.140 So, we're a human rights organisation.
00:03:47.480 And does that represent, like, all humans across?
00:03:50.120 I've never heard of that before.
00:03:50.760 Yeah, we stand up for...
00:03:52.140 We educate on the humanity of the unborn child and the reality of abortion.
00:03:55.940 And we support women who've been through it.
00:03:58.640 Yeah.
00:03:58.780 I keep thinking about the kid that came out.
00:04:06.920 Oh, yes.
00:04:07.700 It was crazy.
00:04:08.860 Because I'm just shocked at, like, six weeks.
00:04:10.720 Like, that's not far at all.
00:04:11.940 Yeah.
00:04:12.140 Like, when I googled six weeks, it didn't see what...
00:04:15.560 It didn't show me what I birthed, basically.
00:04:20.360 You know what?
00:04:21.200 I think some of the confusion with ages is that when you're pregnant, they use LMP, which is your last menstrual period.
00:04:30.020 Yeah.
00:04:30.180 So, actually, when you conceive...
00:04:32.960 So, say my last menstrual period was, you know, mid-October.
00:04:37.440 That's not when you conceive, because you don't know when you've had sex and stuff.
00:04:41.040 So, actually, the baby is normally conceived about two weeks after, if that makes sense.
00:04:47.120 So, a lot of the images that we use, we date, and your baby would have been from conception.
00:04:56.340 Yeah.
00:04:56.540 So, you said six or eight weeks?
00:04:58.660 Yeah.
00:04:59.160 Yeah.
00:04:59.420 It was between that.
00:05:00.200 Yeah.
00:05:01.100 It had everything.
00:05:01.960 Yeah.
00:05:02.520 It had everything.
00:05:03.460 Yeah.
00:05:03.960 Would I have done it if I knew that?
00:05:05.600 No.
00:05:06.580 No.
00:05:07.100 But it's like, again, like, I am for life, right?
00:05:10.560 Pro-life, right?
00:05:11.480 But at the same time, like, it's someone's choice.
00:05:14.140 It's like, even coming out of abortions and saying, if someone wants to kill someone on
00:05:17.800 the street, they can.
00:05:19.100 It's their choice.
00:05:20.040 And that's sort of what I'm saying.
00:05:21.960 But it's still not legal.
00:05:23.580 Yeah.
00:05:23.780 It's not legal.
00:05:24.540 Exactly.
00:05:25.360 Yeah.
00:05:25.920 Because people need to be protected, right?
00:05:28.020 Yeah.
00:05:28.460 Do you guys think that women that get abortions should be pursued to the fullest extent of
00:05:35.140 the law?
00:05:37.100 Is that with me?
00:05:37.980 So, if, for the pro-life people here.
00:05:40.320 I think we should prosecute the doctors, because currently, as we've heard from the
00:05:46.600 panel, the doctors know full well what they're doing.
00:05:49.040 They know it's a human being, and they know that what they're going to do to that human
00:05:52.480 being is going to kill it.
00:05:53.680 So, I think we should prosecute the doctors and the abortion industry, not the women, because 1.00
00:05:59.760 most of the women are not fully informed, as we've already discussed.
00:06:03.320 Sorry, you have to run that question by me again.
00:06:11.380 Do you think that women, if they were to outlaw abortion, do you think women that get 0.70
00:06:15.260 abortions should be pursued to the fullest extent of the law?
00:06:20.700 Well, that would put me in that category, wouldn't it?
00:06:23.820 I meant moving.
00:06:24.660 So, like, if they pass a law tomorrow, they can't, like, put someone in jail from before
00:06:30.660 the law was passed.
00:06:31.600 So, it would just be, like, women in the future. 1.00
00:06:34.380 You know, like, if you change the speed limit to 50 and it was 40 last week, they don't
00:06:37.880 say, you drove 45 last week.
00:06:39.840 No.
00:06:41.060 I just think that, you know, that woman doesn't have the full picture. 1.00
00:06:53.040 So, therefore, as it stands anyway, so, therefore, similar to what Ruth is saying, the doctors
00:07:04.660 that are signing off these women to, or permitting them to have these abortions, and those that
00:07:12.300 are actively performing the abortions should be held to account.
00:07:15.520 Now, I'll just say something very quickly, from my own experience, was that, from my
00:07:22.780 understanding, there should have been two signatures to permit my abortion, and there
00:07:26.880 wasn't.
00:07:27.900 What was the second one?
00:07:29.480 Sorry?
00:07:30.160 So, what signature?
00:07:31.400 They normally, you normally have two signatures.
00:07:33.420 So, one doctor would sign, and another would counter-sign to authorise the abortion.
00:07:44.860 It's a legal requirement.
00:07:45.680 Yeah.
00:07:46.280 That's not, that one.
00:07:47.240 In this nation.
00:07:48.040 In this nation.
00:07:48.980 So, that wasn't the situation that I, that wasn't my own personal experience.
00:07:53.980 It was very much in the hospital consultation.
00:07:57.460 I mean, I'm pregnant, and the first thing that was offered to me was an abortion.
00:08:04.080 I just feel like they, there should be other options given to that woman. 0.84
00:08:10.480 So, yeah.
00:08:11.060 Because you were 19.
00:08:12.100 I was 19.
00:08:12.400 And so, that was the first thing.
00:08:13.700 Yeah.
00:08:14.380 Okay.
00:08:14.840 Yeah.
00:08:16.480 Yeah, so.
00:08:18.640 You're very, I can see it, like, still affects you.
00:08:21.400 It does.
00:08:22.400 It does.
00:08:22.960 So, it's just going back to what Cass said, you know, you say you train your mind to forget.
00:08:27.040 But, like, we're here today.
00:08:29.040 It's, it's part of my tapestry.
00:08:31.060 I, I can't forget.
00:08:33.800 I could, I've moved on with my life.
00:08:35.480 I have been healed from my experience.
00:08:38.400 But, like, like most traumas, you can't forget it.
00:08:43.080 It's just, you learn to cope, and you learn to forgive yourself for it.
00:08:46.460 That's what people say, right?
00:08:48.140 Yeah.
00:08:48.220 That's what everyone says.
00:08:49.520 But the brain is capable of everything.
00:08:51.460 The brain is like a computer.
00:08:52.880 If you tell, like, you know, you have to organise it in certain folders.
00:08:56.480 If you don't want something on the computer, you can move it to the bin folder.
00:08:59.860 And, and people don't realise that I've had a lot of things happen to me.
00:09:02.880 And, and most of the things I've actually forgotten about.
00:09:05.300 Until I actually come and speak on these subjects, and people bring these subjects up, I'm like,
00:09:09.000 oh yeah, that's happened to me.
00:09:10.080 Oh, oh yeah, like, I'm, I'm really good with those things.
00:09:12.860 So, what I would do is, I would, like, if the memory comes back, again, it's very good
00:09:17.780 to start off with forgiveness.
00:09:18.980 Forgiving yourself, forgiving whatever, the doctors, no signatures, or all those things.
00:09:23.080 Yeah, absolutely, that's the first step.
00:09:24.900 But the second step is working with your brain.
00:09:26.620 Your brain communicates to you through your imagination.
00:09:29.400 Therefore, you should respond with your imagination.
00:09:31.720 So, when that memory comes, you can imagine scrunching it, putting it into the bin folder.
00:09:36.080 Your brain will adapt.
00:09:37.260 Your brain will know you are the engineer of, of, of that computer.
00:09:41.660 You are the engineer of your life.
00:09:43.440 Your brain thinks it can control you only because you haven't taken that power.
00:09:48.180 But no one knows that, you know, everyone just lets the brain do everything.
00:09:51.620 The amount of thoughts that we get every day, and it could be so random, like, random thoughts
00:09:55.640 that don't even belong to our personality, you know.
00:09:57.960 But, but we can control that.
00:09:59.820 We can.
00:10:00.620 And, and things like that's happened to us, we don't need to think about it.
00:10:04.280 We don't need to feel the pain every time.
00:10:06.040 Like, it's happened to you so long ago, and I can feel it in your chest, in, in your emotions.
00:10:10.780 It's still there, and it's still resurfacing, you know.
00:10:13.640 So if you just practice this, I'm scrunching up, putting it into the bin folder, um, trust
00:10:19.040 me, the brain will adapt quicker than you think, and eventually it will stop showing
00:10:22.100 up, like the whole memory will just disappear.
00:10:24.020 As many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok, and we are demonetized on a daily basis
00:10:30.120 on this platform.
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