JustPearlyThings - June 16, 2023


The Most Controversial Opinion On Cheating


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11 minutes

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In this episode, we discuss the topic of divorce and why it should be banned in our country. We also talk about cheating and why a woman should divorce a man if he cheats on his wife. We also discuss why a man should leave his wife if she cheats and why she should stay with her husband.

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00:00:00.000 I think a divorce should be banished, banished. I think we should erase divorce. Do you know what
00:00:07.200 country it's illegal in? I think before we do it, we should give all the married people to be like, 1.00
00:00:11.920 look, here's your chance legally now to get out if you need to. Yeah. Amnesty. They didn't sign
00:00:18.200 up for that. They thought they were at the easy divorce. So now anyone going forward knows if you
00:00:23.120 sign up for this contract, you are stuck for life because there's a lot of people that really don't
00:00:29.300 believe in divorce. And there are a lot of good women that want to get married and stay married. 1.00
00:00:33.920 But the men are like, well, my friend married a good woman who wanted to get married and stay
00:00:39.680 married and she divorced him and took half. So why should I trust you? Well, I think the government
00:00:44.260 should force us to stay. I disagree. Yeah. So unless, wait, wait, wait, wait, I need you to, yeah.
00:00:52.500 Unless there's three reasons.
00:00:59.300 Okay. Addiction, abuse, and adultery. And I still think you should try to be separated first
00:01:09.360 and then try to work it out. Yeah. Because there are success stories of people that have
00:01:15.320 gotten through abuse, addiction, and adultery. We never talk about those. And I think first
00:01:19.620 you should put the kids first. So that's my opinion. Do kids first, 100%.
00:01:24.400 And what, you disagree? No, no, no. I agree. I didn't know he was going to say that. But I was
00:01:28.360 also going to say that if, if a woman's hitting a man, I don't think that should be, you should be 1.00
00:01:32.600 going for a divorce. If your woman's hitting you, man up, bro. Like, obviously.
00:01:35.660 If you're a grown man and your woman's hitting you, like, come on, bro, boss up, man. Like, you can't get divorced if a woman's hitting you. Like, I don't agree that she should be hitting you.
00:01:54.400 Slip and counter. No, I'm just joking.
00:01:57.360 But I also don't agree. This is going to be controversial. But I also don't think a woman should divorce the man if he cheats as well. But I think if a woman cheats, that's far more good. 0.76
00:02:07.960 I agree. Ultra haram.
00:02:09.860 Yeah. I think cheating for a woman is 100 times worse than cheating for a man. 0.99
00:02:15.840 Facts. It's bad.
00:02:16.840 1000%.
00:02:17.440 Women can disagree. When a woman cheats, she's trying to replace you. When a man cheats, she's just there. 1.00
00:02:23.680 A woman won't sleep with somebody. 1.00
00:02:25.020 Let me tell you something about, let me tell you something. When a guy, when a guy cheats on a girl, nine times out of ten, when he cheats on her, there's some flaws in the woman he's cheating with
00:02:36.740 that his main girl has that this one doesn't have. And that actually makes him like his main girl more. That's a controversial advice.
00:02:46.280 Do you think he's actually flaws, though? Or do you just think he fancies like a bit of variety? I mean, like, because, you know, the classic thing, you know, you can have, you can have steak at home, but you just sometimes fancy a McDonald's.
00:02:55.760 No, no, you do fancy McDonald's, but sometimes there's like a homeless person in the park eating a lot of McDonald's that you don't want to deal with.
00:03:02.580 I don't want to McDonald's, do I?
00:03:03.000 No, no, but like what I'm trying to say is that typically when a guy does cheat, he doesn't leave for that one because the main woman, and listen to him from a man's perspective, when he cheats, okay, the main girl actually gains more value.
00:03:21.020 Because he decides, he's just satisfying. She's just a pleb. She's just there for pleasure, pump and dump, sayonara. 1.00
00:03:30.900 And then the main girl has what he wants for the long term. And a lot of people, it's an uncomfortable conversation to have, right?
00:03:39.500 But hold on, hold on. Tell your wife that. See if she marries you. 0.99
00:03:42.260 Just listen, let me make my point. Let me make my point, right? A lot of guys, when they do do that, they actually appreciate the main girl more.
00:03:50.460 And I know you don't want to hear that, but that's a reality.
00:03:53.000 Shall I tell you what it is? I think that's an opinion, for sure.
00:03:56.060 By nature, men, we can argue over the hills, but the facts are, by nature, men are polygamous by nature. Women are not.
00:04:04.220 So, having said that, the thing is, women, especially in the West, they're not having it. They're saying he's having me or nothing.
00:04:09.820 So men are trying to fight their natural urges. It's basically like a man saying to a woman, when you're on your period or when you're pregnant and your hormones are going all over the place,
00:04:17.860 I don't want to hear you crying. I don't want to see you cry. Don't kick off at me. How unfair would that be to the woman?
00:04:22.080 So you'd imagine a man saying to a woman, I don't care if you're on your period. I don't care about your hormones. Shut up. Don't cry. Don't be emotional. Don't get aggy with me.
00:04:27.880 But when a man's got hormones and we're acting them, then it's a completely different thing. 0.56
00:04:31.540 Cheating, you mean? That doesn't compare to a pregnancy. That's completely out of the way. 1.00
00:04:35.740 No, no, no, no. I'm saying is when you have hormones and a man has hormones, you're allowed to, because it's in us. God made us like this. God made men polygamous by nature.
00:04:42.580 So you're telling me that.
00:04:43.560 But where did you get that information from?
00:04:45.660 I'm sorry.
00:04:46.160 Ask any man.
00:04:46.940 There's a way. Okay, I'll give you an answer. I'll give you an answer. You wanted the answer to this. Listen, listen, okay.
00:04:53.440 You're basically using the information for you.
00:04:56.000 No, no, no, no, no. Listen.
00:04:57.400 To justify cheating.
00:04:59.980 If a man can be absolutely in love with his woman, ready to die for it, do anything for her, still sleep with someone, I'm thinking in front of it.
00:05:06.260 If a woman's in love with her man, she, the best lucky man in the world can come to show a repulse.
00:05:11.240 Invisible.
00:05:11.940 It's invisible.
00:05:12.560 But a man could be absolutely besotted with his woman and go fucking ugly bits, because it just,
00:05:16.580 men and women are not the same. 0.96
00:05:18.540 Also, also, also, also, wait, wait, wait, wait, also, they surveyed cheaters, they surveyed cheaters, the majority of cheating is only one time.
00:05:25.260 So women are throwing away marriages for a one-time thing. 1.00
00:05:28.660 Yeah.
00:05:29.160 And then listen, there's a book called Sex by Dawn as well, right?
00:05:34.700 Sex by Dawn.
00:05:35.240 And it talks about even the shape of a male penis.
00:05:38.520 You've seen a penis before, right?
00:05:39.880 I'm sure.
00:05:40.300 No.
00:05:40.900 Okay, you're a virgin.
00:05:41.560 Please show me.
00:05:41.860 You're a virgin, too.
00:05:43.040 But the structure of the penis, too, is meant to push his sperm in, and then, you know, the outside mushroom, the edge, is to pull other men's sperm out, right?
00:05:54.540 Because that's how we are set up, biologically speaking.
00:05:58.740 It's in the book.
00:05:59.540 I just told you the book Sex at Dawn.
00:06:00.880 Who wrote the book?
00:06:02.260 Dr. Christopher.
00:06:03.920 Sorry.
00:06:04.500 It's okay.
00:06:05.340 Well, I can both learn about it as well.
00:06:07.360 Dr. Christopher.
00:06:07.820 I mean, it doesn't mean it's right.
00:06:08.900 If we're going to go from a biological perspective, like, men would only pass on DNA when they impregnated, like, the most women.
00:06:15.040 Because a lot of kids used to die during childbirth. 1.00
00:06:17.740 No, but what I...
00:06:18.660 Sorry.
00:06:19.160 Dr. Christopher Ryan.
00:06:21.080 Dr. Christopher Ryan.
00:06:21.800 What about sperm wars, though?
00:06:22.980 Is that in sperm...
00:06:23.720 Is that...
00:06:24.080 These doctors come up with all sorts.
00:06:25.440 Do you know what I'm saying is you...
00:06:27.380 Do you know what's interesting, though?
00:06:28.520 It's like, if a guy fulfills his mating strategy, which is, like, impregnating as many women as possible, he's shamed, and, like, they're often said that's a bad thing.
00:06:37.140 But if a woman fulfills her mating strategy by getting the best guy she possibly can, like, the richest, tallest, most handsome, that's just considered normal. 0.82
00:06:44.260 Yeah.
00:06:44.660 I heard it expressed really well the other day by somebody on one of these shows.
00:06:47.340 She said, when men cheat, it's just, like, they cheat.
00:06:50.900 When women cheat, they mean it. 1.00
00:06:52.400 And that's the problem.
00:06:53.540 And that's the problem, isn't it?
00:06:54.680 A woman will never sleep with someone that she doesn't like. 1.00
00:06:56.940 And if she's in love with her husband, she will... 0.96
00:06:58.640 It's impossible for a woman to cheat if she's in love with her husband, unless she's fundamentally broken. 1.00
00:07:02.880 Patrice O'Neill said it best.
00:07:05.140 Cheating is for women. 1.00
00:07:06.340 It's benefit.
00:07:06.720 I think it goes completely against the sanctity of marriage.
00:07:12.680 There are vows that you take.
00:07:14.340 I'm being facetious, obviously.
00:07:16.340 I have a question.
00:07:18.000 I have a question.
00:07:18.640 So, for a show of hands, who here would work through addiction with their partner?
00:07:23.860 So their partner's addicted to something?
00:07:25.820 If there was a possible outcome of her recovering, there's no possible, she's going back to school.
00:07:30.020 Or if she shared it with me.
00:07:31.380 Okay.
00:07:33.480 That's what I mean.
00:07:34.340 Pass the dutchie.
00:07:37.140 Wait, wait, wait.
00:07:38.120 Who here would work out adultery with their partner?
00:07:41.180 So their partner cheats on them.
00:07:42.620 Any guy puts up their hands, we're fighting.
00:07:44.420 I will work it out.
00:07:46.060 Because everybody deserves a chance.
00:07:48.280 Women would, men would. 1.00
00:07:49.560 I figured.
00:07:50.220 Daniel said he's 50-50.
00:07:51.560 Who would try to work out abuse with their partner if they felt like they had a part to play?
00:07:59.040 I shall endure.
00:08:00.240 I shall endure.
00:08:01.040 I shall endure.
00:08:02.120 You have to put your hand down.
00:08:03.260 I shall endure.
00:08:05.340 Sorry, can you repeat the question?
00:08:06.740 I said, who would work out, work through abuse with their partner if they felt like they had a part to play?
00:08:12.620 Yeah, of course.
00:08:13.200 You've got to recognize if you've done something.
00:08:14.960 Sorry, a part to play.
00:08:15.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:08:16.640 Okay.
00:08:17.020 Okay.
00:08:17.180 So the thing, I think with this conversation, the reason it always gets like this, right, is because, I don't know, guys have a really hard, it's very hard for guys to explain what they mean in a woman's way to a woman.
00:08:32.360 You know what I mean?
00:08:32.980 So when a guy says, oh, guys cheat for different reasons than girls and guys are doing it, what a girl, a lot of times, because I saw you being with the faces and stuff, what they're hearing is you giving a pass.
00:08:44.920 Or you being like, oh, it's okay for one person, but that's not the conversation we're having.
00:08:50.220 We're not talking about the outcome, we're talking about the reason for the outcome.
00:08:53.700 That's the conversation that the guys are having.
00:08:55.600 The reason that this happens is different for both sides.
00:08:59.060 It triggers an emotional response in you because you think that we're saying men should cheat, but it's not saying men should cheat.
00:09:03.800 It's almost like you're giving yourself a pass, you know, because we have this, because we were supposed to go in the mushroom.
00:09:11.300 But it's like men try so hard to understand us, but we never try to understand men.
00:09:19.640 So a lot of times when men are trying to explain how they are to us, we get this gut reaction and we get mad when they're just explaining that cheating is different for men and for women.
00:09:28.740 But it's not the same.
00:09:29.600 I totally agree.
00:09:30.640 It is different, but it doesn't justify the one or the other.
00:09:34.500 I was just about to say, I'd like to clarify that.
00:09:38.000 I don't condone cheating at all.
00:09:39.420 I was going to actually wait for a break and then I was going to say, look, I just need to clarify.
00:09:43.800 I don't agree with cheating.
00:09:45.000 Men should not cheat.
00:09:46.620 However, God knows it's our natural nature.
00:09:48.460 Nobody should cheat if you're loving your partner.
00:09:50.100 You're going to take a second wife. 1.00
00:09:51.880 No, but the difference is like men can love a girl and cheat on her.
00:09:56.200 Yeah, because there's no emotional investment.
00:09:58.740 Yeah, because if I was there, she's available.
00:10:02.440 You know what?
00:10:03.220 I would rather have my men say, okay, can we do something together?
00:10:07.660 And I say, let's go.
00:10:09.680 Because I've got your back, you know?
00:10:12.000 But it's this backstabbing.
00:10:14.380 I like it.
00:10:14.800 It's the backstabbing that hurts.
00:10:17.040 Because it's same as you do to your best friend or whoever.
00:10:20.240 When you do something behind someone's back, that's what's hurt.
00:10:23.440 Can I ask you a question?
00:10:24.720 I want to have a quick question for her.
00:10:26.860 It really adds to the context.
00:10:29.040 Would you have had that same stance 10 years ago when you were 24?
00:10:31.860 No, but no, because I was much younger.
00:10:37.380 And don't forget, I was at a time where for basically two years, my fiance was in the box.
00:10:43.760 And he said, I'm not attacking or insulting you.
00:10:47.180 No, no, no, I'm just sharing.
00:10:48.320 He said, I'll retract my proposal because I don't want you to be a widow so young. 1.00
00:10:53.460 And I said, no, I'm going to be there for you.
00:10:55.880 Two years, I flew from London to Geneva while studying my Bachelors, wearing the mask, the hat, everything.
00:11:03.720 I couldn't touch him.
00:11:04.540 I couldn't kiss him.
00:11:05.400 But I was there.
00:11:06.140 I wasn't going anywhere.
00:11:07.600 And, you know, so I believe in the fact that I will support my man, but my man will also support me.
00:11:15.060 Because as much as I respect him, he will respect me.
00:11:17.980 I want to add on to something.
00:11:19.900 So then at 24, that would have been a hard no.
00:11:22.300 But now at 34, you're negotiable.
00:11:24.620 You're like, okay, if you're going to cheat, cheat with me.
00:11:26.780 No, because now I'm a bit more open-minded.
00:11:29.200 Like I'm thinking, but I haven't tried this.
00:11:31.780 Okay, because now we live in a very different world.
00:11:33.920 I hear things that I've never done before, I've never seen, I don't know what it is.
00:11:37.780 So I was thinking, okay, if I would ever try something, it would be with my man.
00:11:41.680 Because he deserves anything he wants, you know?
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