The Most Controversial Take On Grape
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss consent in sexual situations, rape culture and the role of women in the legal system. We discuss the difference between consent and non-consent and how women can withdraw consent at any point in the future. We also discuss the concept of rape and consent and how it can be confusing for men and how to deal with it.
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i have a controversial take on this whole grape thing i think so a lot of feminists like to argue
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from both sides of their mouth so they would say um yeah um consent and all this and that and then
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they would try to make it like okay everything is the man's fault but then they also remove you
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and remove the possibility of asking what the woman was doing why was she in that situation so
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now you are not allowed to ask all of that right because then it seems like victim blaming but the
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reality is knowing why she was in that situation paints a fuller picture of why she was gripped
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but then they take out that whole part essentially making it that there is no way on earth it can be
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a woman's fault it has to be the man's but then it wasn't that there was a case recently where a
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woman's um underwear was shown in court for example to prove that like oh you know maybe she was
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asking for it so i feel like that stuff still does get brought up in the courtroom yeah but they do
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still take that into consideration they even go as far as to shame the victim but that's that's for
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that's when lawyers are trying to get their job done but the reality doesn't go like that but when
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you're trying to get to the truth you have to ask questions yeah you do have to ask the difficult
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questions of course like i understand that i think there is a difference though between like holding
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someone's underwear up in court and shaming them for it as well though i don't know what what were
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they doing so they um so there was a woman that had been great and they held up her underwear that
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she was wearing like a thong and it was red and they tried to use that to say that she was
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consenting basically do you think women ever wear red thongs to have sex um yes but also i wouldn't say
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that that's that equates to consent i i don't think it could equates to it but could it be evidence
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no i don't think it could i i could see where the you know yes you could see where they're going if
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she was in lingerie you wouldn't think she might have been planning on having sex but then you can
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you know withdraw consent at any time so you could turn up in the laundry you can even be fully naked
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and ready to go and then you can change your mind i think this is very confusing to men
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you can you certainly can but i could see where a guy would be confused so he's like okay wait
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you're butt naked in my bed yeah you and women also play say no which we which we said earlier
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women do that so now we're so i can't make this up i can't make this up it's fun it's fun to say no
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they want to be able to play their games and still play victim afterwards
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that's the reality of feminine nature you want to put yourself in a dangerous situation
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and then have someone save you and if someone doesn't save you then you should you should still
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also be able to play just to clarify no in that situation i'm fully consenting and i feel like
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it's about body language though and it's about judging the situation right but do you see how it
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can be very confusing to a guy yes i understand if the guy just doesn't understand women i guess
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i feel like a guy that understands women and understands like body language they so she gets
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into she gets naked in bed yeah she play tells him no yeah and she can withdraw consent
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and now he's supposed to know she doesn't want him yeah i understand how that could be confusing
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yeah actually i don't think majority of the cases is a man that doesn't understand women i actually
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think majority of the cases is a man that understands the game very well but what happens
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is they have their phone how many let me ask you a question what percentage of women do you think
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regret having sex later oh a lot exactly a lot yeah so if she's giving consent now and then later
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she regrets it and then she she goes to the court and says well she never gave consent how is the man
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meant to prove that he saw the body language but i just think surely if they regretted it they
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wouldn't want to make a massive case out of it they would probably just never want to speak about
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it again or pretend that it didn't happen i i think i like i have friends right maybe let me think of a
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specific friend that's regretted sleeping with with a guy she would just want to pretend that that
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didn't happen she would never want to go and make a big deal out of it what usually happens she has a
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lot of people talking in her ears right that can convince her that she was gripped that's what
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usually happens she she really doesn't want to come out with the story but then she tells this
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friend and the friend's like oh my god that he he gripped you and then she tells the next
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oh my god but it's such a traumatic experience to go through all of the exam you know they have
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to do like an internal exam all of this stuff to go through all of that and women love their trauma
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but to to have to go through all of that though i don't think anyone would choose to do that
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unless they like you know we're really sure they've been proven that there have been tons of women that
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have absolutely chosen to go through that and been lying i mean yeah i guess with like the false
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accusations but i feel like surely the majority of women wouldn't i think i think i think if that
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was true false accusations wouldn't be so common but because if i ask if i ask okay okay so these
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are two random men yeah do you know anybody that's been falsely accused razor both of them yeah easy
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three you three yeah no even i know one like even you know even i know one yeah okay so but i feel
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like the amount of women i know that have been essayed is like way way more okay but then someone's
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lying right because if we're hearing all the men that have been falsely accused and all the women
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saying they've been graped someone's lying but i feel like it's a heart a far higher number of people
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that have been than it is people that i think i think if that was true they would go to the police
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because i don't believe women i just i think if women if women really cared about women yeah and
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they would make sure that great biscuits get locked up yeah i just so either they don't so either i don't
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think it's complicated at all but you know if only one percent get prosecuted they might be like
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well what's the point what's the point in going through all of this it's like traumatic to have to go
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through police interviews and all of the exams and have to relive that trauma this points back to
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what we're trying to preach to women you say what's the point the point is not the point yeah is to get
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the person arrested but even if that doesn't happen the point is that you've logged it with the
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authorities and you've built that is the point right yeah so once you don't do that you're literally
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letting a grapist go scot-free to be able to do to other people because if you if one guy is doing
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it to all these girls eventually they can build a case if 10 girls have the same story that don't
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know each other but the problem so feminists will say they're they're fighting for women yet they
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don't go to the police to put a grapist in jail i mean obviously some people do but i think i think
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it is really hard it is really hard for somebody that has been in that situation to actually speak
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out about it and maybe i i think for a lot of cases that i've seen it can be that sort of thing
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where it's like one person comes out and then it empowers someone else to come out and then
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before you know it it's like 10 other people do as well i don't really believe those girls either
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oh really no how come how come they always tend to come out when there's something to gain though
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if they are so traumatized they only ever come out when there is something to gain yeah like i do i do
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understand from that perspective but i also think maybe as an individual it could be really difficult
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to go up against someone that's say more powerful has more status more money whatever but then when
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kind of women come together i think maybe they do feel more empowered to be able to take that step of
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doing the police interviews going through all of that because it is traumatic to have to do that
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i can imagine it must be traumatic to have to go through that process i just think genuinely if that
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happened to you you would go to the police yeah i i just have a hard time because the truth is on
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your side yeah go tell the truth and the thing is i i i really think police are i i don't think i'm
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i question the number that it's only one or two percent because my my guys do like my my gut my gut
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feeling is the way they got that number was by just surveying people and saying were you graped and
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then and then putting that against the number of yeah i i don't know i could be wrong i just i've
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done this long enough so i know how the feminists manipulate everything like because the one you
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know the one in three like women or one in four women have been graped yeah that's wrong right
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because they included like great getting your butt grabbed at a bar right oh right like that's not
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the same thing like that's happened to me before yeah that's happened to me yeah it's just like
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okay i still think that that's messed up because i've seen it happen to a guy before
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yeah like a hendry but to even compare that to essay or grape i think is insulting to real
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great victims it's like all right that's it's not on the same level no but it's still wrong
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of correct but you see how they're manipulating that stat yeah by including things like that yeah
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or even taking off a condom we're gonna put taking off a condom at the same level of a woman that's
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been graped or assaulted i think that's insulting to real assault victims
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i mean i would say that that is pretty high up there that is pretty high up there i want every
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woman that's lied about birth control to have the same energy i think that's still wrong yeah i still
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think that that's up there as well wrong but i think they're all do we think that's great i don't
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think most feminine maybe you might but i don't think most feminists would say you grab that man i
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think if they're trying to like baby trap a guy then a hundred percent that's like so so what about
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jail should she go to jail yes thank you we agree