The Only Thing That Pearl And Destiny Agree On
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the difference between love and attraction in the dating world, why men fall in love faster than women, and why women have higher standards than men when it comes to a romantic partner. We also talk about the Red Pill and how it affects men and women.
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men love women under far less conditions than women love men that sounds like the opposite of
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love to me well if you love under far less conditions that sounds like desperation i don't
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want somebody that loves me for like one or two reasons or whatever right i want them to be a lot
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of reasons why they love me but what i'm saying see that's that's what i was saying earlier that's
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what i was saying earlier i feel like men it's like i'm gonna butcher this i know i know but
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it's like i feel like when men love women it's like it's more common for them to be the fiancee
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in the situation where it's like women have more conditions for them to be like really in love so
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when they're really in love they're like super in love but the average girl like isn't yeah but then
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it comes down to semantic of like what does it mean to be more in love right like if somebody tells me
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like i love you and it's like well why um because i think you're funny and i'm like okay what else
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i don't know i just think you're really funny and that's it it's like okay but it's not like oh i
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love you because you're you know tall good at volleyball red hair if they've got like runs a
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good studio they have like 20 reasons like oh wow this person really loves me you know that's what
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would be my feeling but then it's like well what does it mean to love more there well in that case
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men love more i've never had a guy care about my studio i don't know i don't know you well enough
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okay i'm just drawing into whatever i see here it's more like a love at first sight that's more of a
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simple love yeah the more immediate they're more likely to fall in love faster quicker type of thing
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but then it's a question of like who loves more than if you fall into love with every person you
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meet because you think they look good is that loving more than somebody that's like well i love
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a very specific person but i love them a lot you know i almost i feel like people fall in love based
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on how the other makes them feel at least from a woman's point of view do you think that's true for
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men and that just hormones and chemistry well i mean no control yeah i mean that's probably true for
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everybody right like how you feel about somebody is how they make you feel about them
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yeah is that for a man to love a woman she does not have to jump us through as many hoops and meet
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as many requirements as for a woman needs to love a man so in other words the guy's got to reach a
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certain level to even be acknowledged by the woman however that woman she could be mediocre and still
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get the garner the love from a man who's superior to in every way which you know from a biological
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standpoint that makes sense because men date down and women date up so we make this question
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criticizing women for having standards yeah i'm not sure it's always what it is yeah i don't think
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it's criticizing i think it's describing he's literally i think it's i think it's true you
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don't think that's true he's literally writing a book called women deserve less i think i think
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he's saying the standards are too high oh come on that's funny that's funny you know that's you're
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laughing that's funny it's like you can't jesus it's funny but i mean i'm saying it's like yesterday
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wait there's semantics do you remember that you asked a question yesterday at the end of that
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tate interview where you were like do you think that um jokes are just jokes or something and it's
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like yeah they're jokes but they always like hint at something true so yeah i think people in the
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red pill communities the generally i thought is that women's standards are too high who would read
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a book like that presumably not women and then men just get the idea that we need less how is that
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going to help them i'm confused i'm gonna i'm gonna buy the book i'm sure i'm gonna buy it yeah okay
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well you can let us know i guess i'll give you guys my summary that's great you'll have it in your
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bookshelf right next to your own self-published like pearl's guide to whale hunting or whatever
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right i never even thought about writing a book but you know what maybe i will gotcha it won't be
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whale hunting it'll be it'll be well spotting it'll be like whale defending oh okay gotcha
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tenderless who loves more somebody with high standards or low standards all else equal
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because that's what you're essentially saying obviously the person with high standards loves
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more because you're being more selective of your partner so of course you're gonna love that
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partner more but that's kind of what i was saying with the jacket okay it's 100 contingent upon the
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other party's ability to provide and uh and perform is my point like a woman doesn't have a
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burden of performance to garner love from her man i mean if you're telling guys to like look for a
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woman that's just young and can cook then of course there's no burden of performance yeah but
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again like how much of love is that like i love you so much like why because i can cook and
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i'm young like you can find a million girls that can cook in here if you get two reasons for it
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then like yeah that is true but what i'm saying is that if you take a majority of men versus a
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majority of women a majority of men would like a majority of women however a majority of women
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definitely don't like a majority of men yeah i agree that's why i think women love more because
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when they pick somebody they're selective about it they put more time and energy into it for sure
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whereas for a guy the woman is a lot more replaceable so i think what myron is trying to
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say though is that like if guys stop doing the things like if a guy's jobless for like two years
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the girl's gone basically so like how do how do women love more if if the guy stops doing that
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stuff i feel like this is more or less this is like differently it's more intelligently more planned
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or thought of and then more simply on that and and the side of the men but i mean but i mean simply
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can be charming to like fall in love with someone with that connection without really putting a lot of
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thought into it it's not necessarily inherently evil or something but the fact that women feel like they
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have to take more things off so like they feel safe i suppose it's also valid yeah i feel like
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it's it's hard because it's so subjective i might be an outlier here but i really don't like the concept
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of unconditional love like i have worked pretty hard in my life to accomplish a certain amount of
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things i've worked pretty hard to present myself in a certain way i would hope that the person that
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loves me loves me for those things and if i just became some type of slob that lived at home and did
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nothing all day and was jobless for two years and didn't do anything that they would probably not
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love me anymore because if they did then what like what if what if your wife got fat would you feel
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like that's the equivalent um i like 300 pounds are you okay 300 pounds we're gonna roll that ass
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down the stairs you're gone okay but if she got a conditional both ways well i feel like that's the
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equivalent as a woman gaining a ton of weight well no no she's gone she said she's gone he agrees with
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me leave the whales at 300 pounds leave the whales he agrees at 300 pounds yeah of course because
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you're talking about that's like if i was where's the cutoff what like 200 250 like when are you
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leaving i don't know i don't mind somebody that's chubby if she got like chubby that'd be fine i'm not
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with her just because of the way that she looks there's a whole other set of things got like a 30
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pounds but she's she's there's a lot of things about her that i like like she's into working out
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she's into doing outdoorsy stuff she likes to go adventuring traveling my guess is that if she
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became 300 pounds she's probably not doing any of that anymore right so there's other things that
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are yeah there's other things that are changing for her to become a 300 pound person yeah but
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come on 300 you know you know even if she was still doing that stuff at 300 pounds you'd be gone
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i already told you 300 is way over the line leave the whales man leave the he agrees with me
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no i don't think no because i don't know if we i am so glad we're on the same team must be
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very good 300 is a lot wouldn't you agree i like how earlier she was like why do you have to make
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it an abuse analogy and then now she's like well what if she weighs 300 pounds well that's conditional
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just like what you said before no no i just said i just said what about 200 250 i said how much
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lee weight it's not my fault you wouldn't answer the question i did i said that i don't mind somebody
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that's like chubby so i said okay so 30 pounds i don't know what she would look like
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with 30 pounds more it's fine 30 pounds more okay he has just convinced me instead of leave
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the whales leave the orcas too oh my god leave the hippos i think at first i was just i was just
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gonna say whales and whales is like 250 270 plus roughly but now i'm gonna add to it just because
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of you gotcha thank you would you leave your guy if he gained 200 pounds
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um you would i actually don't come oh my god the biggest cap no i i dated a guy that was
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significantly bigger than me yeah would you now i didn't ask in your past i'm saying right now
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would you date a guy and then he gained weight and he weighed 300 350 pounds
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um three that's a no i wouldn't say you can leave the men whale too okay so male and female whales
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are getting ditched i think it would depend on at what point in the relationship you are because if
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i'm like 70 and my partner gets really large for some medical reason i probably wouldn't leave them
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because i've built a whole life with them sure but really as much of a problem but obviously at this
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point in my life i would because you want that attraction i feel like i do feel like once you have
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kids it's not about you anymore so i will say the kids if i had children i'd probably you know
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i'd be like go to the gym let's go running you know let's go 300 pounds i'll just i'll just start
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to feed them less you know what i mean i'll just like it would depend on how they got to that weight
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right like what things caused that to happen and are there personality changes can i have a second
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plate i'll be like oh we're out of food yeah that's you go to the mcdonald's for you and your
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two kids you get three happy meals right i don't put a log on the fridge like they do with the
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biggest losing weight people that's why even sneaker here was like oh you know you might step out of
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another or whatever it's like okay well how much do you actually love your woman you're willing to do
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something like that like that has nothing to do with how what about you like how much do you
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actually couldn't i say that to you don't you actually love your women if you're willing to step
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out on her well but we have the same rules yeah but isn't that the it's the same question see it's
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like he doesn't answer the question no i think it's if you have the same set of rules on both
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sides and it shows that you engage with the topic in a different way i don't associate the people
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that i have sex with i don't associate that with like hardcore love that's just for me that just
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doesn't work that way right that's i was gonna make your mom joke um no but the um he's gonna bully
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me yeah i was he's always bullying i am but but if you but if you believe that like love and sex go
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together and that's why your girl's not allowed to sleep around but you are that type of discrepancy
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it doesn't work for me you don't think women are like tie more emotion to sex than men do i think
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on like average probably okay so that's you wouldn't see why it's different then if you would
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agree that like by and large women tie emotion more to sex on average but the difference i don't think
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let me oh let me answer your question before you railroad me down the well if they engage with
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sex differently when in an open relationship okay i don't appreciate the mocking okay but that's
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what you're trying to railroad me to let me respond to your question did i mock you okay if you want
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to lay out your whole kingdom before i tear it down go ahead yeah go ahead as many of you know i was
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