The Role Of A Step Father
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the role of fathers in raising their step children and the role they should play in the relationship with their children. What role should a stepdad have in a relationship with a child? Should a stepmom be allowed to discipline her stepchild? Should the stepdad look after the child? How much responsibility should a child be given to their new biological father? What role does a child have to be looked after by a biological father when they re in a new relationship? Is it possible for a new stepdad to be a good role model for their child? Is the new man responsible for the children that aren t his own? Is he the right one to look after them?
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does the new man have now to your child from another man like what like does he take on
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all of the responsibility as a father or is there some kind of halfway dad situation going on
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does that make sense because a lot of women have expect a man for instance there was a viral video
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this week you know a couple of days ago when this woman was she had a father of her child she had
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three other children and he came to bring his child every day lunch and then she was like oh
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I've got three other kids and he's like those ain't my kids I've got one with you I don't have
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an obligation to look after your children so I'm just like do women who already have children think
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that their new man or another man has the obligation to look after the children that aren't
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his I think it depends on if you're dating or if you're or if you're taking things serious I think
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it depends if you're dating they don't need to see your child you're just you know dating and doing
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your thing but if you are building with you're moving on and you're building with that person
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you're gonna you know get engaged get married have children and stuff it that kind of comes with
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that kind of you you kind of see how they build their own relationship as well I feel I feel like
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you do group stuff you go out to eat you do whatever you need to do you know and you see if
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that when you're doing the introducing after six months or after a year you see if your child how they
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are with that person you need to see if they if they've got that relationship you can't force
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can't force it is he allowed to discipline your child um it depends on that situation this is the
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thing because because yeah I was in a relationship for like 10 years right and when I was in that
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relationship I was with a woman who already had a child we had a child together but what was very um
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very apparent to me within that relationship was that I was not allowed to discipline this child the
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way I could discipline my own child right because the child still had the father in their life the
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father would have something to say about it if I disciplined the child in a certain way and so I
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there's a lot of men out here saying that they wouldn't get with a woman a lot of men saying they
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wouldn't get with a woman who already has a child because you get a lot of the benefits sorry you don't
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get all of the benefits of being a father right but you have the responsibility as a father so it's
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like what is the incentive for men to actually get with women who actually already have children
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when you know that at some point in time you are going to be reminded that that child ain't yours
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I'm going to be controversial and say I think the father should look after the kid
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they're better off statistically kids are better off after the age of like eight with their fathers
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over their mothers especially even financially like single fathers tend to be better with money than
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single mothers oh wait no I'm talking about my I I think the the stepdad should look after the
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the step kid oh the stepdad okay yeah the step the reason why I say this is because you're picking
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the woman you know she's got a kid already so you you should assume that you're gonna have to look
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after her kid even though she might not want you to that's it's like you're picking the woman not the
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child no but you know she's got a child so you're picking a woman and a child it's not like to marry her
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yeah like it's like you're she's not gonna accept she's not gonna like um put the kid up for adoption
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like it's like no you know they're coming as a pair so you gotta prepare yourself already to be like
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you know what I might not be able to discipline him the way that I want to I'm not I'm gonna have
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to pay for his this I'm gonna have to pay for that I'm gonna have to pay for that I know I'm gonna
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have to get this in my air about how you're talking to him please talk to me instead of talking
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to the kid and I know you're gonna get that but I think I think that um stepdads should be
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allowed to discipline the kids because yeah because like that it's what he's signing up for
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if he's going to take on the responsibility he should get it was it was about you to do it though
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that's not your child that's my child I'll discipline the child nine times out of ten
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that's what mothers will do yeah you disagree though the door's there no I think if it's not
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natural it's not organic you can't fool someone into obligation if you do that it builds resentment
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and that's like coercive control that's like mental abuse and women complain about that all the
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time and what I notice as well with the women I know that's like that they're um hypocritical
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there's double standards they they can do that kind of parents said oh well he's not my child if
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the father has one already but if we do that it's a big problem this is where this is what I disagree
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yeah that's what but that's why men like oftentimes don't get involved with single moms because it's
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just it's too confusing for them I'm allowed to do this but not that and I'm taking on the responsibility
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but I don't get any of the authority and that's why a lot of times they come out and say it's a bad
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deal and you know what that does to children children even if you've got like two children
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one's yours and one's not yours that other child sees that that child gets treated differently right
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and so that child one of the children know that if they're left with stepdad they can probably get
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away with a little bit more than they could if it was actual dad do you know what I mean and so
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they'll push the boundaries listen I've told me trust me I've been there yeah I've been there
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like they will push the boundaries there because they know you can't discipline me like my mom can
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discipline or my dad can discipline me you say that you say that in my experience obviously I'm not
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saying this for everybody but in my experience my first son's mother her eldest favored me at one
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point he drew me in place of his dad in his primary school book and all because I gave him routine
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and structure I wasn't too pally pally with him I said look this is the boundaries you're stressing
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out your mother you got a certain bedtime you have to go to bed he said you need to help her out
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because I said a lot of the time she's running around and you're capable he could iron his clothes
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he's good at folding so I said you need to give him a bit more responsibility and what I found amazing
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at the time I thought he despised me but he actually started to we started to get really get on
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and then a second child I think because his dad weren't actually around he favored me as well so
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that that middle one actually handed me better than my own son but you know that's what a lot of
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women will see that they will see that and they'll say that as a bad thing not knowing that you're
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actually helping the youth so to be fair his mother she actually liked it she encouraged it
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which I found was a bit peculiar so she in because he the first one okay so we're talking about like
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women that don't want their partner to discipline the kid so like even when he's like being a man in
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the house and being like bro like pick up that and whatever like she might not like it but he might
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like it like when I grew up with a stepdad my mum wouldn't know like certain times like do you know
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what I mean I'd be like raw like now I'm looking back I'm like this man's amazing bro like do you
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know what I mean like he took me on as a stepson and treated me like all his other children
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and did you push the boundaries with him knowing that was your was your actual biological dad around
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yeah yeah yeah yeah it was a bit of a rich dad poor dad like so basically I was brought up in
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Trinidad and England and Trinidad then England right my dad was here my stepdad was in Trinidad
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with my mum and he was Muslim so I was on the militant IS style you know what I'm saying without the
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terrorism part but you know what I'm trying to say like five times a day like Ramadan everything ready
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but I'm saying when I look back at that now that was discipline bro do you know I mean I wouldn't
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see it as that I would be like bro this bread is so annoying like who do you think he is my dad do
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you think he's my dad do you think times have changed now though like do you think times have
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changed like children do you think children show step fathers and mothers adults in general the same
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respect that they did when you were growing up it depends on who's the parent yeah it depends and the
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character of the child as well depending on the parent bro it's just statistically now it's a lot
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of single parents so is the skewed because at the end of the day we we tell men avoid single mothers
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yeah even though some men I don't say that I say I don't tell men to avoid single mothers I say up to a
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certain age a man should build for himself and if he's going to get with a woman it should be a single
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woman with no women did no children I feel like people with kids should just date each other like
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that's and that's also an option but I'm saying if you get once you get to a certain age generally
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women are going to have one or two children if you get like past the age of 30 and looking for a
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woman she's probably gonna have a child or two so you're gonna have to decide what you're gonna do
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but below the age of 30 I don't think any man should be getting with a woman with children you say that
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but I always find about 27 28 if they don't have a child already or at least been in a serious
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relationship I start thinking are they weirdos by what age 27 28 if I haven't had a long-term
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relationship or they haven't had a children I think what's wrong with them so yeah but in this
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society now really and truly I personally believe you don't really know yourself until you're about
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late 20s it's statistically 50% of women over 30 are single and childless and but that kind of goes
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into another stat which is like one out of three women making over $47,000 per year has had an
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abortion so there's a good chance that maybe they were pregnant at one point but what do you say
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there's a cultural thing because in the UK my sphere of influence I've seen most women
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before 30 have children already you saw I mean so before the age of 30 most women maybe run in
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different circles that Jamaican circle way so are you saying um so if women in your circle if you
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think women before the age of 30 are having children right um and there is men the same age do you do you
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advise those men to get with women with children in your 20s no I wouldn't advise that well but it's
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also the problem is it's a mating strategy so what happens a lot of times is like women have different
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things that they look for in a guy and one of them is good genes so a lot of times a girl will get
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pregnant by the guy with the good genes and then find a provider to take care of him later and um if
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you're if you're the provider she might not have genuine desire for you and actually be attracted to
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you because she's looking for you to take care of and that's a risk where a lot of guys it'll be good
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until they get married and they're in a sexless marriage so I would never put up with it but what
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what attracts you to Amanda like well there's a couple different mating strategies that women look
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for so like one um is resources when it comes to like money and um resources as in he'll stick around
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and invest in the child so like girls can kind of feel like what guy is more of like a father one is
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gene so that's things like height facial symmetry strength that sort of thing um another one is legacy
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it will he embarrass the family um another one is I always forget the fifth I put in the chat what
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the fifth one is but yeah there's just different mating strategies that girls but like in language
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terms there's out and I hate these terms but shout out rollo okay alpha alpha alpha fucks beta bucks
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and there's the guy that's like the girl's super attracted to and she like sleeps with super soon
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and there's there's the guy that she makes weight and she wants to take care of her
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yeah of course and like girls will look for both but like a guy with both is rare
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yeah they'll probably cheat on you because he's rare and then but the thing is like and we've spoken
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about this so many times like women generally want the same type of men do you know what I mean
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and so the reason why you get baby mamas nowadays fighting over the same guy is because those guys
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are breeding with all of the women right that's why all the baby mamas are fighting over this one guy
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this one guy's got three four women pregnant so he's got he's got women he's you know those women
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know exactly what he's like yeah they know exactly what he's like and they choose to breed with him
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because he has those traits and that's the thing like a lot of girls are sleeping with men that aren't
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fathers and then and they know and they're sleeping with men that aren't fathers like they're not
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sorry they're not husbands i should say yeah better better term um and they know they're not husbands
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and they're sleeping with them and they get pregnant by them and then you know they're shocked when he's
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not a husband no but you said get pregnant she chose to get yes you know i agree i agree you're a bad
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bad word right so now we're getting to it now so now we're getting to it you know that guy doesn't
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want you like how you want him you trap him to have your child and you you try to lock him down
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not knowing that you trapping him is not going to lock him down you think by you having a baby with
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him it stops other girls from having a baby with him but they just see and see as i want to have a
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baby with him as well yeah of course because it's pre-selection so like biologically women are
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predispositioned to i mean not personally i'm i don't do the whole kids thing but but but in
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general like like um not not me and i don't need that but but but like genetically we are biologically
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predispositioned to like men that other women want so if another women woman gave him a baby it
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signals to us that he can take care of us too right of course yeah my dad just told me don't so are
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you a virgin then no i'm not a virgin so would you mean you don't do the baby thing then i don't i don't
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want to date a guy with kids oh i thought you meant you have a baby no i don't have a kid why not would
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you wait no children you don't want any children no i want i want a lot of kids that's what i'm
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trying to say i'm saying i don't date guys with children what yeah that's not she wants to build
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her own yeah because i just feel like like that's something that i really want like me like black men
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i really want me and my husband to be you like black men bro
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what's going on here no no i'm just saying basically i saw on another podcast okay you're out of the
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running you got a couple kids no no i'm saying i saw on a podcast you got black guys i'm saying
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you're disqualifying you're disqualifying a lot of but not in the u.s 50 of black men are single
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and childless and in the middle class yeah why would i why would i pick the ones with kids
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because like no because he's had a kid before so so he might know how to look after the kids better
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he's selling himself right now you got kids as well man i'm selling you you're too good
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like i've just it's been really important to me to have like a stable family unit and that's just
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something that's really important to me two parents in the home i don't want baby mama drama i don't want
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any of that i just want two parents in the home we both have the first kid together and i don't
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think it's really smart to advise girls to go after guys with kids i think that's like a lot
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of the problems we're seeing so do you want to get married before you have a kid yeah that's what
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that's the way to do it yeah that's what that's the way to do it like honestly if you get married
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first a man feels more obliged to stay with the woman i don't know why you think it's the other way
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around like not the other way around as well bro listen are you gonna get down on your on is she
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gonna get down on her knee or you're gonna get down on your knee you're getting down on your knee
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so that means you've already committed to what you're gonna do right yeah but don't you think
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that's because they're frightened and divorce and they think oh well you know she's gonna take off
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and that's it's prenup yeah so i mean it's like it's pretty expensive to get a prenup you got 10k
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laying around i mean if you're gonna risk half your wealth going then i should have 10k laying
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around if i'm gonna have a white dress and a ring i'm saying that's a reason a lot of guys don't
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do it is it is expensive um and i just know this because i have a couple friends that have gone
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through the process and they just like the the cost didn't make sense to them is that what you're
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going to tell your potential husband what i mean personally personally um like i i want a prenup
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like on my end i want to prenup so it's a big clinical though yeah it's a big clinical is protecting her
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yeah no i i'll have a prenup but the thing is i i just don't think it's wise to advise
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i think people with kids should just date each other you guys can do do you see what do you see
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why now men wanted to have pre so funny how when women start to make money now they start to understand
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oh this is why you wanted to prenup i've always said i would sign a prenup yeah i've always said that
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but i don't i don't really understand why girls marriage is not about romance that's one of the
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major things that people don't understand marriage is a contract between two people to do something
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it's not generally about romance in before it became this oh we're romance this fantasize this
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fantasy it was about the coming together of two families right for a specific reason right and the
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two people would marry and they would basically they would they would become a conglomerate now do
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you know what i mean it's not about it's not about it's not about love and that's that's what i think
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people get wrong and and because when you think about it you're going to be with someone let's
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say i get married you know let's say let's say we get married at 30 right well me and you
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stop hype down okay let's say let's say she's my new babe stop stop okay let's say we let's say
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um me and somebody get married at 30 uh i'm gonna live to probably be 80 90 that's 50 60 years like
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are you really gonna love them all 50 60 years like there are times when my parents didn't get along
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but i'm glad that they stayed together because i would hate to do two christmases and i would hate
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to like have that all split up love is not based on just feeling it's principle it's a choice it's a
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choice it's a verb it's long suffering that's part of it it makes it easy it's like having medicine
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that's got sugar in it some of it is bitter but the sweet one's easier to go down it's even emotions
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are fickle love is commitment it's not just about the feeling so when you're gonna get married love not a
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feeling yeah it's part that's part of it that's part of it but that's only a small part of it
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it's a combination of things it's like it's a paradox it's are you saying it's duty yeah that's
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part of it too yeah but obviously that you have the feeling duty principle long suffering sacrifice
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these are all parts of it but people only want to take the parts that they like that's the problem
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i need to ask that doesn't mean your parents didn't love each other because they had arguments
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yeah no i know that's just that's what i'm saying but i saw a lot of like i had friends parents
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that also argued growing up and they ended up getting a divorce and i see them like 10 20 years
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down the line and they regret it because it was it would have been better for the kids and then like
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i mean you put um i just looked up this stat but a kid is 10 times more likely to be a victim of
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sexual sexually abused than children that live with both biological parents because if you're bringing
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in like random yeah you just never know yeah yeah that's one of the reasons why i got rid of my
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first son's mother imagine stuff like that wait would you be what what that's why i got rid of my
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first son's mother because of things like that what she's talking about well bringing different men
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in yeah of course i said look you've had two children already and this year alone they've seen three
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other men i said this is not the kind of fat person i would sit down with i don't envision
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a future of you right you know i mean this is a casual thing and then you're trying to force
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commitment i said i can rebuild i said do you think she was looking for a stepdad for the children
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yeah of course of course well as soon as she saw that um i've done a bit of writing i worked and i
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had my even though it was shared housing and i drove a golf mark three old old jalopy but she saw
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the base of how long ago was this golf mark three yeah yeah 2005. oh i was gonna say golf mark three
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yeah so they were they're carrying on she's thinking oh well you know his parents are married
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still so maybe and that's you said to be fair i told her which i was silly i told her that yeah
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the person i have children with i want to sit down with so he told me to say that we've been a few
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weeks asleep with her so i mean how long did it take as many of you know i was just banned on tiktok
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