JustPearlyThings - November 26, 2023


The Secrets Of Passion And Fulfilment In Long-Term Relationships | Stirling Cooper @StirlingCooper


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 8 minutes

Words per Minute

200.09105

Word Count

13,626

Sentence Count

1,346

Misogynist Sentences

113

Hate Speech Sentences

71


Summary

Sterling Cooper is a regular on our panel shows and has been with us for a number of years. He has been in the entertainment industry for a long time and is now a full time escort and sex coach. We talk about his early life growing up in a Christian, wholesome family in Australia and how he went from there to becoming a swinger and escort.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today, I have a special guest on the channel.
00:00:02.280 Welcome to the show, Sterling Cooper.
00:00:03.920 I am a retired award-winning...
00:00:06.880 I also used to work as a high-class male companion.
00:00:11.520 Sex was always, I guess, a bit taboo in my family.
00:00:15.040 My job was to kind of be that perfect fantasy
00:00:17.240 of, like, the combination between, like, a gentleman.
00:00:19.460 It's lonely for, like, wealthy women.
00:00:22.000 Yeah.
00:00:22.320 It's incredibly lonely.
00:00:23.660 The guys who you would consider to be, like,
00:00:25.160 quote-unquote, players are actually just men
00:00:27.220 who are very good at manipulation.
00:00:28.300 Like, that's really her only power,
00:00:30.680 is emotional manipulation in some way.
00:00:32.440 I'm, like, the dude who comes in
00:00:34.520 and, like, bangs another dude's wife in front of him.
00:00:39.240 I have a list of girls I would not...
00:00:40.780 I would refuse to shoot with.
00:00:42.360 I had directors and companies I refused to shoot with.
00:00:44.300 I had types of scenes I would refuse to do.
00:00:46.100 And every guy and girl in the industry has that.
00:00:47.960 And your agent respects that.
00:00:49.020 And he doesn't book your work, violate your no list.
00:00:50.680 Like, the average guy today has seen more naked women
00:00:53.780 than, like, Genghis Khan would have seen in his lifetime.
00:00:58.300 What up, guys?
00:00:59.940 Welcome to The Sit Down.
00:01:02.080 Today, I have a special guest on the channel.
00:01:04.620 Welcome to the show, Sterling Cooper.
00:01:06.360 It's good to be back.
00:01:07.300 So, Sterling, you've been on the show a couple times.
00:01:10.140 You're a regular on our panel shows.
00:01:12.520 Why don't you introduce yourself to the people at home
00:01:15.220 that do not know your background?
00:01:16.880 So, I am a retired, award-winning star.
00:01:21.500 Okay.
00:01:22.180 I also used to work as a high-class male companion,
00:01:27.300 servicing wealthy business ladies, shall we say.
00:01:30.520 And prior to that, I was also in the swingers scene
00:01:32.960 as a single guy, as what you would call a bull in that scene.
00:01:36.320 And now, I've given up that life of degeneracy.
00:01:41.240 And I kind of pull on that experience of performing under pressure
00:01:45.460 in sexual scenarios.
00:01:47.720 And I help guys, just the average dude,
00:01:50.520 to overcome things like performance anxiety,
00:01:53.100 erectile dysfunction, which is a big one,
00:01:54.960 premature ejaculation.
00:01:56.080 I teach them how to please their woman.
00:01:58.620 Teach them how to get them off.
00:02:00.120 And, yeah, because of that,
00:02:01.340 I'm able to help men, women, couples all over the world
00:02:04.200 and actually, you know, contribute to society
00:02:07.300 in a positive way now.
00:02:08.960 So, tell me.
00:02:10.580 You said you have siblings?
00:02:12.400 I do.
00:02:12.960 I've got an older brother and an older sister.
00:02:14.700 Okay.
00:02:15.320 How does...
00:02:15.780 And you're from Australia originally.
00:02:17.620 How does one go from nice, wholesome family in Australia
00:02:21.520 to swinger, escort, and...
00:02:24.400 That's a very good question.
00:02:27.740 You know, because I just...
00:02:28.740 I wouldn't.
00:02:29.580 It's funny, even talking to you,
00:02:31.100 like, I don't even get that vibe from you.
00:02:33.200 I wouldn't even...
00:02:33.760 I, like, would never have guessed if I didn't know.
00:02:35.820 Yeah.
00:02:36.180 Yeah.
00:02:36.740 Well, that's good.
00:02:37.440 Thank you.
00:02:38.000 Yeah.
00:02:38.580 I like to think I present as somewhat classy...
00:02:40.700 Yeah.
00:02:41.140 Yeah, no, seriously.
00:02:42.600 How did it happen?
00:02:43.460 I guess it was...
00:02:45.300 Sex was always, I guess,
00:02:50.000 a bit...
00:02:56.300 ...until I'd left home.
00:02:57.700 What religion, Christian, Catholic?
00:03:00.120 We didn't really have a religion in our house.
00:03:02.200 Okay.
00:03:02.760 But my mom had a Bible by her bed every day of her life.
00:03:05.620 Okay.
00:03:06.160 So, I think technically...
00:03:08.120 I think technically we're some kind of Protestant.
00:03:12.220 Dad's family was Catholic, Irish background.
00:03:15.440 Okay.
00:03:15.680 But his dad changed...
00:03:17.680 He was Methodist, that's what he was.
00:03:18.840 Methodist.
00:03:19.620 Which is some kind of Protestant.
00:03:20.700 I don't know.
00:03:21.220 I don't have a clue what all that means,
00:03:22.600 to be honest.
00:03:23.640 But, yeah.
00:03:25.620 Technically Christian, but not really Christian.
00:03:27.460 Okay.
00:03:27.780 So...
00:03:28.100 Not practicing at all.
00:03:28.780 So you never saw them kiss or anything?
00:03:30.780 Yeah.
00:03:31.220 Like, the most intimate I ever saw my parents
00:03:34.540 was, like, a kiss on the cheek.
00:03:35.580 So where did this...
00:03:36.580 Like, where did it come from?
00:03:37.640 You know what's funny?
00:03:38.480 I...
00:03:38.880 So I took my dad on, like, a tour of America last year.
00:03:43.220 Yeah.
00:03:44.060 We got to do, like, a lot of bonding.
00:03:46.120 And, like, basically it was just me getting him drunk
00:03:48.020 and having him tell me stories and stuff.
00:03:50.140 And I realized where it came from.
00:03:53.600 Dad was a bit of a dog back in the day.
00:03:55.620 Okay.
00:03:56.280 So I'm like...
00:03:57.160 For me, it was like a light bulb going off.
00:03:59.620 I'm like, why am I this complete pervert?
00:04:02.080 When I came from this, like, super wholesome,
00:04:04.540 like, normal, regular family.
00:04:05.960 Yeah.
00:04:06.200 I'm like, ah!
00:04:08.260 That's where it comes from.
00:04:09.300 So how old were you when you started?
00:04:12.640 Like, all of that stuff.
00:04:13.980 Probably started mid-20s.
00:04:16.500 Mid-20s?
00:04:17.260 Yeah.
00:04:17.840 Okay.
00:04:18.280 Mid-20s.
00:04:18.780 What was being an escort like?
00:04:20.600 Like, I didn't even know women got escorts.
00:04:23.620 Yeah.
00:04:24.200 But it's women who are...
00:04:25.120 It's typically women who are mid-30s, career women.
00:04:27.860 Okay.
00:04:30.080 Have a hard time finding love.
00:04:32.680 I'd say have a hard time finding the kind of guy
00:04:36.880 they want to be with, settling down with them.
00:04:40.260 Because the guy they want to be with is chasing tail
00:04:42.800 of, like, the 18, 19, 20-year-old secretary.
00:04:46.340 You know what I'm saying?
00:04:47.080 So my job was really to be that guy, to be that classy gentleman that would wine and dine
00:04:55.140 them.
00:04:56.000 And, you know, that's kind of like...
00:04:57.940 My job was to kind of be that perfect fantasy of, like, the combination between, like, a gentleman
00:05:03.160 but still quite sexually deviant behind closed doors to give them that fantasy they wanted.
00:05:10.840 It was this really...
00:05:12.340 It was a really interesting learning lesson into, like, female psychology for me.
00:05:17.900 What type of jobs did these chicks do?
00:05:20.260 Was it, like, lawyers?
00:05:20.920 I'm thinking of, like, lawyers.
00:05:22.780 Yeah.
00:05:23.160 Like, any, like, white-collar six-figure job.
00:05:26.680 Okay.
00:05:27.020 Like, lawyers, HR.
00:05:28.920 I actually had a couple of cops, oddly enough.
00:05:31.060 Really?
00:05:31.480 Yeah.
00:05:31.700 Actually, once here in Britain, I had a British police officer.
00:05:34.200 She was, yeah, just, look, I guess, yeah, looking to lose that authority in a way.
00:05:41.220 I had my best client was this, like, multi-millionaire Chinese lady who ran, like, a, it was like a
00:05:47.460 plastics manufacturing company back in China.
00:05:49.700 Wow.
00:05:50.300 Super, super interesting.
00:05:51.920 And that was one of the most interesting experiences I got.
00:05:55.200 So she used to fly me out to New Zealand on skiing trips.
00:05:58.660 We'd spend the weekend together.
00:05:59.860 And it was actually kind of, it wasn't, she wasn't sad, but the story was a bit tearful
00:06:06.820 because she told me that her whole family, every time they interacted with her, because
00:06:13.460 she was the wealthiest one in her family, deca-millionaire, whole time, anytime anyone
00:06:17.260 in her family interacted with her, all they wanted from her was money.
00:06:20.560 They just wanted to get money from her.
00:06:21.920 She couldn't, she was technically married back in China.
00:06:25.120 Um, he was some kind of, uh, like high level, uh, musician.
00:06:31.080 I don't want to dox anybody.
00:06:32.960 Um, but it wasn't, it was a marriage of, it's a safe face.
00:06:37.620 It wasn't a marriage of love.
00:06:39.380 Uh, they'd never had sex.
00:06:40.980 They didn't, they didn't have it.
00:06:41.820 They'd never?
00:06:42.680 I think they'd done it, they'd consummated it maybe once or twice, but it wasn't a relationship
00:06:46.600 that had sex.
00:06:47.380 So he was still in China and she was living in Melbourne.
00:06:50.660 Wow.
00:06:51.080 And the only person in, so she, so because she's married on paper, she can't be seen
00:06:57.940 dating anybody, right?
00:06:59.740 She can't, she can't go out and meet, you know, a guy through one of her friends or
00:07:03.080 anything like that.
00:07:03.500 So she screwed there.
00:07:05.280 She can't confide in any of her family members because all they want is money from her.
00:07:08.480 The only person she could confide in was her niece and her niece wanted to be a chef.
00:07:14.480 She loved food.
00:07:16.180 And so she would spoil her niece by taking her to like five-star restaurants all the time.
00:07:18.840 And that was the way of bonding and that, but that was, as she was telling me that story,
00:07:22.440 I was like, man, like it's lonely for like wealthy women.
00:07:27.120 Yeah.
00:07:27.460 It's incredibly lonely.
00:07:29.280 Yeah.
00:07:29.600 Cause they do, they do not have an easy time finding a guy who is like kind of going to
00:07:35.580 be on their level and is going to, yeah, be like intimate and passionate with them.
00:07:41.160 It's really, it was a really eyeopening experience.
00:07:43.780 Did you ever have women that were married?
00:07:46.220 All the time.
00:07:46.840 Really?
00:07:47.440 All the time.
00:07:47.700 So they would, they were like, so I know you just said her, but like in like actual marriages
00:07:52.700 where it wasn't just a face.
00:07:54.680 Yeah.
00:07:55.000 And why did they tell you that they hired you?
00:07:58.140 Hmm.
00:07:59.480 They never really would tell me why they hired me.
00:08:02.960 It was like verbatim, like I hired you for this.
00:08:05.540 It was, but it was more of a case of them.
00:08:07.360 They would talk about the problems they had with their husband, how the marriage was sexless,
00:08:12.600 um, how the passion had gone and things like this.
00:08:18.460 Do you find that sexless marriages are typically the choice of the woman or the guy?
00:08:23.960 Hmm.
00:08:26.660 That's a tough one.
00:08:27.560 You have to be an expert in that topic.
00:08:29.200 Like what contributes to that?
00:08:30.780 Yeah.
00:08:30.980 I think for the, well, the, the clients I was seeing, I think would probably like an
00:08:36.260 exception to the rule.
00:08:37.480 Yeah.
00:08:38.120 Uh, based upon what I hear from guys who study my material, like my YouTube, my email list
00:08:44.480 and all that sort of stuff.
00:08:45.100 Uh, I'd say it's more the case of the woman, like not being, she's, her lust isn't inspired
00:08:52.960 by her man anymore because he's kind of taken a backseat.
00:08:58.080 He's kind of coasting through the relationship.
00:08:59.940 Like when you have the, the honeymoon phase at the beginning of a relationship, both of
00:09:03.820 you want to tear your clothes off.
00:09:04.880 It's great.
00:09:05.440 You know, and that energy comes from both sides, but eventually guys will get kind of
00:09:10.880 complacent and fall into a habit and a routine.
00:09:15.260 And that's when you kind of stop seducing each other.
00:09:18.580 Right.
00:09:19.060 Cause if, if you're not the kind of guy who's going to inspire that lust out of her in the
00:09:24.840 first place, well, she's going to be less sexual towards you.
00:09:29.160 So he's going to try less hard, not as hard.
00:09:30.740 And it's, it's going to slowly degrade to nothing.
00:09:33.640 So I don't, I, it sounds a bit harsh.
00:09:36.100 Just trying to put all the burden of responsibility on the guy, but that's life as a guy, I think.
00:09:41.340 And so I would say it's for the most part, it's down to the guy to make sure that stays
00:09:45.760 there.
00:09:46.100 Now, if she's getting fat and not, you know, no, I'm serious.
00:09:49.160 But if she's, you know, getting out of shape or whatever.
00:09:51.400 Okay.
00:09:51.660 Well, he has to, let's say, inspire a little bit of jealousy in her to make sure that she
00:09:59.360 stays on track.
00:10:01.000 Cause otherwise, like if she's complacent and she'll get complacent when she thinks that
00:10:05.060 her man has no sexual options at all, when he's not a guy who women want to flirt with,
00:10:09.220 or he gets attention from women, well, she ain't going to really put any, why does she
00:10:12.820 go put any effort in?
00:10:13.680 Right.
00:10:14.180 She's getting, she's getting her into the, into the bargain met, right?
00:10:17.100 Yeah.
00:10:17.680 House is paid for, mortgage is paid for, she can, you know, do her things or whatever.
00:10:20.800 Like it's a balance that both, both sides need to have incentive for it to work.
00:10:29.120 Do you think it's possible to avoid like, I don't know, relationships getting boring
00:10:33.960 over time, you know, cause, cause life is, it's so long.
00:10:37.700 Like if you want to actually have a 20, 30, 40, 50 year marriage, which it's rare nowadays
00:10:43.580 anyways, but let's say that's your goal.
00:10:46.060 Is it even possible to avoid things getting boring?
00:10:50.280 I would say that boredom isn't like this, this thing you need that you should be super
00:10:56.500 worried about.
00:10:56.940 It's like kind of more of a lack of like fulfillment between the two of you.
00:11:00.560 Like, and I think, I think that's comes from, I'm, I'm talking as a guy who's not, who doesn't
00:11:04.260 have a family, doesn't have a wife.
00:11:05.360 So take whatever I'm saying here with a grain of salt, obviously.
00:11:08.140 It's just my opinion.
00:11:09.500 And it's my opinion based upon what I've seen from like friends who've been in long relationships
00:11:13.060 and stuff.
00:11:13.560 Yeah.
00:11:13.700 You've probably dealt with more women than like any, the average guy.
00:11:18.480 Yeah.
00:11:18.660 Well, it's funny.
00:11:19.340 I'll hear these guys come and say, I've been married 10 years, 15 years.
00:11:22.940 And I'm like, well, that's not 50.
00:11:25.760 You know what I mean?
00:11:26.580 And I, I almost think like sometimes the players have a little bit respectfully, but like
00:11:32.460 have a little bit more of like, uh, uh, grasp on female nature and norm, know more about
00:11:38.800 women.
00:11:39.020 Cause they've dealt with more women than the average married man.
00:11:41.900 Typically.
00:11:42.320 Yeah.
00:11:43.000 Like the average marriage, that married, that married man knows his wife.
00:11:46.120 Yeah.
00:11:46.500 Inside and out.
00:11:47.100 Yeah.
00:11:47.620 Well, you do see, you do, you still will see a lot of guys in long-term relationships,
00:11:52.440 long, like long-term marriages who've, who've kind of been, uh, hand pecked, right?
00:11:57.780 They've been pussy whipped or whatever.
00:11:59.140 So that, that fundamentally tells me that he doesn't actually understand female nature.
00:12:02.640 If the dynamic is off in that relationship, well, he probably would have been, not that I'm
00:12:07.100 trying to encourage us, it'll be, probably would have been better sort of sowing his
00:12:09.960 oats a bit when he was younger to kind of learn a bit of the darker side of female nature
00:12:15.100 rather than going into a long-term relationship naively.
00:12:19.320 And, you know, eventually let's not say, maybe he's not necessarily getting taken advantage
00:12:23.640 of, but he's certainly not wearing the pants in the relationship.
00:12:27.760 And I don't think she's happy if he, if she's wearing the pants, I think no woman's
00:12:31.580 happy in that relationship.
00:12:32.480 Really?
00:12:33.080 They'll get resentful.
00:12:34.420 Right.
00:12:34.760 And that's eventually when they'll hire a guy like me or cheat on, on him with a guy
00:12:39.600 like me.
00:12:40.360 And it's, it's not a good situation for anyone.
00:12:42.520 So I'd much rather the doobie were in the pants and the doobie stepping up and at least
00:12:46.140 understanding his role in that dynamic.
00:12:50.020 What is the dark side of female nature?
00:12:52.800 Cool.
00:12:53.200 So the, the light side of female nature is the nurturing kind of motherly, motherly aspect
00:13:00.380 and the, well, the nurturing aspect towards your partner and your kids, I'd say.
00:13:03.660 Right.
00:13:04.660 And the dark side is the manipulation.
00:13:06.500 Okay.
00:13:07.500 You can say the same thing for men, right?
00:13:09.380 For men, the, the light side of the man is protecting and providing the dark side is
00:13:15.040 violence.
00:13:15.500 Right.
00:13:16.500 We're, we're all perfectly aware that men are more violent than women.
00:13:19.260 It's not a surprise to anyone.
00:13:20.840 Oh, I disagree.
00:13:21.760 Do you think women are more violent?
00:13:22.760 I think women are more violent.
00:13:23.760 I think men are, well, I think men are far better at violence.
00:13:26.260 Correct.
00:13:27.260 Better.
00:13:28.260 That's correct.
00:13:29.260 When I, the reason I think that women are more violent is because we're more likely
00:13:32.720 to kill the infants than the elderly.
00:13:35.080 Men usually have a reason for killing.
00:13:36.480 I didn't say it's always a good reason, but I think the more violent one kills the innocent.
00:13:41.020 Hmm.
00:13:42.020 That's my.
00:13:43.020 Might be right there.
00:13:44.020 But yes, men are better.
00:13:45.020 But let's just say that that's still like, men are still better at that.
00:13:48.100 Yes.
00:13:49.100 Men are better at violence.
00:13:50.100 Yeah.
00:13:51.100 Manipulation.
00:13:52.100 Yes.
00:13:53.100 Way better at manipulation than men.
00:13:54.100 And that's ironically, the guys who you would consider to be like, quote unquote, players
00:13:58.600 are actually just men who are very good at manipulation.
00:14:01.100 Okay.
00:14:02.100 They're men who have mastered the female weapon.
00:14:05.100 Okay.
00:14:06.100 Right.
00:14:07.100 So when I say manipulation, I mean, things like emotional coercion, right?
00:14:11.100 Okay.
00:14:12.100 Like, which is really all a woman has, like that's, that's really her only power is emotional
00:14:18.100 manipulation in some way.
00:14:19.100 Right.
00:14:20.100 Now she can, she can manipulate, I'm using the term manipulate loosely here.
00:14:23.100 Right.
00:14:24.100 But she can manipulate a man in a positive way by like, oh gee, maybe cooking him dinner,
00:14:28.520 having like a warm, like roast dinner, waiting on the table when he gets home.
00:14:32.640 That's like, I'm falling in love with that woman.
00:14:34.600 That's it.
00:14:35.600 That's still emotional manipulation, but it's done in a positive way.
00:14:37.600 Right.
00:14:38.600 In a positive context.
00:14:39.600 Okay.
00:14:40.600 The negative emotional side, the negative manipulative side of that is like the nagging, like the
00:14:44.600 belittling him.
00:14:45.600 Yeah.
00:14:46.600 Disculating him in front of other people, right.
00:14:48.600 To try and get him to do a certain thing.
00:14:50.600 Mm-hmm .
00:14:51.600 That's kind of the more manipulative, the darker side of that, I'd say.
00:14:54.600 Mm-hmm .
00:14:55.600 But it's, women are, women have to use that.
00:14:57.600 The same way, the same way that a baby has to cry to get what it wants.
00:15:01.600 Mm-hmm .
00:15:02.600 Can't do anything else.
00:15:03.600 Mm-hmm .
00:15:04.600 Well, it's not, it can't, it can't go grab like the bottle of milk for itself.
00:15:07.600 Yeah.
00:15:08.600 To let you know that it needs something.
00:15:09.600 Mm-hmm .
00:15:10.600 Right.
00:15:11.600 And women cannot get what they want in the world through physical force.
00:15:15.600 Mm-hmm .
00:15:16.600 Men can, men have been using violence since the dawn of time to get what they want out
00:15:19.600 of the world.
00:15:20.600 Right.
00:15:21.600 Okay.
00:15:22.600 I want that pile of gold.
00:15:23.600 I'm going to club that guy over the head and take it.
00:15:24.600 Right.
00:15:25.600 Cool.
00:15:26.600 But women can't do that.
00:15:27.600 Mm-hmm .
00:15:28.600 So what do they have to do?
00:15:29.600 They have to use the tool, the one tool they have, which is really emotional manipulation.
00:15:32.600 And it's primarily emotional manipulation of men.
00:15:34.600 And again, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, I'm just saying it is.
00:15:37.600 You know, that's just the nature of the beast.
00:15:39.600 Right.
00:15:40.600 You know?
00:15:41.600 Tiger got stripes.
00:15:42.600 And you said that men, basically that our players have mastered the art of emotional
00:15:48.600 manipulation.
00:15:49.600 Or manipulation to some degree.
00:15:50.600 Okay.
00:15:51.600 Can I have an example?
00:15:52.600 Or at least they're able to recognize when a woman is trying to emotionally manipulate
00:15:57.600 them.
00:15:58.600 Okay.
00:15:59.600 So they're resistant to it in a way.
00:16:00.600 Okay.
00:16:01.600 Yeah.
00:16:02.600 Can I have an example?
00:16:03.600 Think of a common one, maybe?
00:16:05.600 And like how a guy that is a player would, I don't know, avoid it or deal with it.
00:16:10.600 Okay.
00:16:11.600 Okay.
00:16:12.600 Here's a decent example.
00:16:13.600 Okay.
00:16:14.600 A woman trying to start an argument with you.
00:16:18.600 Okay.
00:16:19.600 So maybe she's like, oh, why didn't you call me yesterday?
00:16:23.600 Let's use that as an example.
00:16:24.600 Why didn't you call me yesterday?
00:16:26.600 Well, that's her provoking you with an argument to try and get you to give her more attention.
00:16:31.600 Oh.
00:16:32.600 So you'll argue back and forth and she's getting what she wants.
00:16:34.600 She's getting attention.
00:16:35.600 Right.
00:16:36.600 Okay.
00:16:37.600 Well, a guy who's experienced with women will recognize that.
00:16:40.600 He also recognizes that's not really behavior he likes to encourage, right?
00:16:44.600 So if she's trying to argue with me, like, basically I didn't reply.
00:16:48.600 Like, okay, put the phone down and wait for her to get back into a good mood.
00:16:53.600 And then when she's being lovely is when I'm going to show my affection.
00:16:57.600 But when she's not being lovely and she's being a bit annoying, I'm not going to shower her
00:17:00.600 with affection.
00:17:01.600 Yeah.
00:17:02.600 It's not that complicated, but that's a pretty common example, I'd say.
00:17:06.600 Have you ever heard the phrase to treat your woman like a child?
00:17:09.600 I haven't heard a phrase like that before.
00:17:11.600 Yeah.
00:17:12.600 But I've heard something similar.
00:17:13.600 That reminds me of like when you kids, like when they have a temper tantrum, you have to
00:17:18.600 ignore them.
00:17:19.600 Well, one of the best selling female self-help books, I believe right now, is something along
00:17:25.600 the lines of like how to train your man like a dog.
00:17:28.600 Really?
00:17:29.600 Yeah.
00:17:30.600 Someone showed me this recently.
00:17:31.600 I thought the one was why men love bitches.
00:17:34.600 That might be the one.
00:17:35.600 Yeah.
00:17:36.600 That might be the one.
00:17:37.600 Yeah.
00:17:38.600 There is also a book about like how to train your man like a dog.
00:17:41.600 Okay.
00:17:42.600 Something like this.
00:17:43.600 Okay.
00:17:44.600 But it's like, okay, is that, that's, that's just as bad.
00:17:46.600 Oh yeah.
00:17:47.600 Of a statement.
00:17:48.600 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:49.600 Well, I, it's like that stuff.
00:17:51.600 I mean, the way I look at it is like, we don't even like the guys that stuff works on.
00:17:56.600 So it's like, you're kind of screwing yourself.
00:17:58.600 Yep.
00:17:59.600 Because you're never, you're never going to like a guy that's getting onto your program.
00:18:04.600 So it's like these girls will bring out these books and on the outside, like, like,
00:18:08.600 let's say Jada, like 20 years ago said, this is how I bagged Will Smith.
00:18:12.600 Right.
00:18:13.600 Because she, they were like the couple of everyone loved.
00:18:15.600 Do you remember this?
00:18:16.600 Everyone loved Will and Jada like 10, 15 years ago.
00:18:19.600 I don't really, I don't really give a shit about celebrity stuff, but.
00:18:21.600 Okay.
00:18:22.600 But it, you can just.
00:18:23.600 I will take your word for it.
00:18:24.600 Take my word.
00:18:25.600 But it's like, but she doesn't even like him.
00:18:28.600 Yeah.
00:18:29.600 And it's very clear.
00:18:30.600 She doesn't even like him because he's the type of guy that that stuff would work on.
00:18:33.600 Immensely disrespectful towards him.
00:18:34.600 Yeah.
00:18:35.600 Yeah.
00:18:36.600 He's, he's been a fantastic example for the average guy.
00:18:38.600 Yeah.
00:18:39.600 I think to like, of what, what to look out for.
00:18:41.600 Yeah.
00:18:42.600 Like obviously in love with her, her ex, Tupac or whatever, whatever that was.
00:18:45.600 Yeah.
00:18:46.600 Right.
00:18:47.600 Constantly talks about him and brings him up.
00:18:48.600 Like all the time.
00:18:49.600 Non-stop.
00:18:50.600 So disrespectful.
00:18:51.600 Did you see that her daughter cried talking about Tupac?
00:18:55.600 No.
00:18:56.600 Did she?
00:18:57.600 Yeah.
00:18:58.600 Yeah.
00:18:59.600 I think she wrote a letter to Tupac or something.
00:19:00.600 Oh my God.
00:19:01.600 Yeah.
00:19:02.600 Imagine she never met him.
00:19:03.600 Yeah.
00:19:04.600 It was just based off of what the, yeah.
00:19:07.600 Oh my God.
00:19:08.600 I'm shocked that one of Will's kids isn't called Tupac.
00:19:11.600 Yeah.
00:19:12.600 Like I'm shocked one of his sons isn't called Tupac.
00:19:13.600 Isn't that a common thing where like guys will find out that their kid is named after
00:19:18.600 a woman's ex-boyfriend?
00:19:19.600 Apparently it is.
00:19:20.600 Yeah.
00:19:21.600 I heard that.
00:19:22.600 That's why the man, the man should name the kids.
00:19:24.600 Oh.
00:19:25.600 Oh, that's true.
00:19:26.600 Cause the man's going to name the kids after like ancestors, like siblings, like ancient
00:19:32.600 heroes, like Heracles or something.
00:19:34.600 You're going to give him a cool name.
00:19:35.600 You're not going to call him like nickname him after Chad or his, his ex Stacy or something.
00:19:40.600 Yeah.
00:19:41.600 Ain't going to happen.
00:19:42.600 Yeah.
00:19:43.600 What was, okay.
00:19:44.600 So what was being a swinger like?
00:19:45.600 You had like a girlfriend you would do that with?
00:19:47.600 No.
00:19:48.600 So I was what you would call a bull is the technical term.
00:19:51.600 I'm, I'm like the dude who come, who comes in and like bangs another dude's wife in front
00:19:56.600 of him.
00:19:59.600 Wow.
00:20:00.600 They just, they sign up for that.
00:20:02.600 Very well.
00:20:03.600 Oh my God.
00:20:04.600 I've, I've not been putting this energy out into the universe deliberate to, to be fair,
00:20:08.600 deliberately in the last two weeks I've in my DMS, I've had about five different proposals
00:20:13.600 from married women asking or sliding in my DMS, like, and their profile photo is like them
00:20:18.600 with their husband.
00:20:19.600 Okay.
00:20:20.600 I always thought of swingers.
00:20:21.600 There's like parties or something.
00:20:23.600 That is another big part of it.
00:20:24.600 Yeah.
00:20:25.600 Okay.
00:20:26.600 But you did it.
00:20:27.600 So they would, how would they, I would, I would go to parties and stuff.
00:20:28.600 And I would also get invited to like, yeah, a couple's house and he would sit in the corner
00:20:33.600 and watch wild.
00:20:34.600 Did he enjoy that?
00:20:36.600 They always enjoy themselves.
00:20:38.600 Yeah.
00:20:39.600 They, they, they, they, they, they fetish, they fetishize it.
00:20:41.600 Yeah.
00:20:43.600 Like actually, or is he just saying that?
00:20:45.600 Very often it's the dude's idea to get another dude in to bang his wife.
00:20:50.600 Very, very.
00:20:51.600 Like what is the psychology behind that?
00:20:53.600 Good question.
00:20:54.600 It's a very good question.
00:20:55.600 I, uh, I don't, I wouldn't personally, I'm not into that.
00:21:00.600 Like being on that end of the equation, how it's all like sexual fantasies and kinks.
00:21:10.600 They, to me, at least they seem to be derived from just an exposure to more and more like
00:21:19.600 perverse or different things.
00:21:21.600 Like, for example, I don't think anyone starts like their life off with like the fetish of
00:21:28.600 being a cuck.
00:21:29.600 Right.
00:21:30.600 It has to be something that, that is built on after like years of consuming like graphic
00:21:37.600 material.
00:21:38.600 I can't, I honestly can't think of another way for that to like a manifest.
00:21:42.600 Oh.
00:21:43.600 I don't see it because there's no, there's no biological part of it.
00:21:45.600 Do you think it's like a deviation because of consumption?
00:21:49.600 It must be not, I mean, not just that fetish, but I think, I think basically all fetishes
00:21:53.600 and kinks have to be to a degree.
00:21:55.600 With the, with the one exception I'll probably make to that rule is general BDSM, like more,
00:22:02.600 more specifically like the dom sub dynamic, because I think that is fundamentally more
00:22:07.600 in line with like our actual biological roles as men and women.
00:22:10.600 Right.
00:22:11.600 So that, that at least makes sense in the sense like, okay, why would a woman wanting to be
00:22:17.600 like tied up and spanked kind of makes sense from like the biological perspective, like men
00:22:23.600 are stronger than women and thus they fantasize about stronger men.
00:22:27.600 Right.
00:22:28.600 But other things like, yeah, like leather fetishes, like cuckold fetishes, all this kind of stuff.
00:22:35.600 It's like, I, I at least have not come across any other way of kind of explaining their origins.
00:22:42.600 And I'm, and I'm interested in this stuff.
00:22:45.600 Yeah.
00:22:46.600 Like I'm trying to learn as much as I can about it.
00:22:48.600 But yeah, my, my, that's my current hypothesis.
00:22:50.600 What are you, I'm going to show you something.
00:22:51.600 Oh, good.
00:22:52.600 I want to get your take on this video.
00:22:54.600 So tell me what you, have you seen, have you seen the Adam 22?
00:22:57.600 I'm kind of familiar with what's going on to a degree.
00:23:00.600 All right.
00:23:01.600 So Adam 22 loaned his wife out for a OnlyFans video.
00:23:06.600 Right.
00:23:07.600 He, his wife, um, had sex with, um, I think his name is Jason Love.
00:23:12.600 Yeah.
00:23:13.600 Yeah.
00:23:14.600 It was like, I guess he's a big, okay.
00:23:16.600 And so now this is the new video he has going.
00:23:20.600 Okay.
00:23:21.600 It's in black and white cause my phone's in.
00:23:23.600 He said, I think this could be very positive for society.
00:23:28.600 So this is the new, what do you, what do you think about?
00:23:31.600 What do you think about?
00:23:32.600 Well, for a start, he's what he's doing there.
00:23:34.600 Yeah.
00:23:35.600 Okay.
00:23:36.600 Um, so.
00:23:37.600 You're boosting that video in the algorithm.
00:23:39.600 I know.
00:23:40.600 Well, for a start, he's recreating a very, very famous scene with that shot.
00:23:46.600 Oh, okay.
00:23:47.600 There's, it's kind of like a meme that goes around, is around the internet now.
00:23:50.600 I forget.
00:23:51.600 I think the girls, the original girl's name was Piper Perry.
00:23:54.600 Very, very tiny, tiny little blonde girl.
00:23:57.600 Um, and she's sitting in the middle of a couch and there's like five, like black actors behind
00:24:02.600 her.
00:24:03.600 I'm actually friends with two of the guys who were, who were in that shoot.
00:24:05.600 Oh, wow.
00:24:06.600 Um, I don't know.
00:24:07.600 I don't know any of the other guys in that though, but.
00:24:08.600 So that's what he's doing for a start.
00:24:10.600 He's kind of recreated that exact scene.
00:24:12.600 So, and I think he's very, Adam 22 from what?
00:24:14.600 Cause I saw all the stuff that was happening before with like the Jason Love thing in that.
00:24:18.600 This guy ain't an idiot.
00:24:20.600 Yeah.
00:24:21.600 This guy's a marketer.
00:24:22.600 Right.
00:24:23.600 Like I'm not, I'm, I, you cannot convince me that, that he does not know what he's doing.
00:24:29.600 Yeah.
00:24:30.600 When it comes to like going viral like that, because he knows that a whole bunch of people
00:24:34.600 like you, for example, are going to engage with it.
00:24:36.600 I will.
00:24:37.600 You will.
00:24:38.600 You will.
00:24:39.600 Yes, I will.
00:24:40.600 He knows it's going to get the, get engagement.
00:24:41.600 Yeah.
00:24:42.600 Because like, there's no such thing as bad publicity, right?
00:24:44.600 Like.
00:24:45.600 Correct.
00:24:46.600 Cause he's, who's his audience?
00:24:47.600 His audience ain't, you know, like, like friends, like not, not friends of mine, but
00:24:52.600 followers of mine.
00:24:53.600 Yeah.
00:24:54.600 His audience ain't followers of mine who are like, you know, trying to go down a self-improvement
00:24:56.600 route and try to, um, you know, improve their sex lives, improve their relationship dynamics.
00:25:00.600 That's not his customer.
00:25:01.600 Right.
00:25:02.600 So if that person gets angry about his content and signal boosts it, he wins happy days.
00:25:08.600 He's good.
00:25:09.600 He's pleased with that.
00:25:10.600 His audience, the guys he's going after are the dudes who would like to watch that material.
00:25:13.600 Right.
00:25:14.600 You know?
00:25:15.600 So it's, it's, he's a very good marketer.
00:25:16.600 So what do you think about couples that do OnlyFans together?
00:25:19.600 Yeah.
00:25:20.600 I mean, to me, I used to be in the industry.
00:25:22.600 I used to kind of, I used to kind of participate in, in, in that kind of stuff.
00:25:24.600 Yeah.
00:25:25.600 But you didn't have like a item that, I don't think you had a wife and a child.
00:25:28.600 I dated, I dated a few girls in the industry during, during my time.
00:25:31.600 Um, a big part of that to be fair was networking ability.
00:25:35.600 It's like, if you're, if you're the boyfriend of like a star, she will recommend you to like
00:25:40.600 every director and you'll get more work.
00:25:42.600 So to a large degree, that is like a business relationship.
00:25:45.600 But, um, I know lots of couples, still friends with a bunch of couples who do that, who still
00:25:50.600 create like OF stuff or, or they're couples, they're two couples, whatever.
00:25:54.600 And they're on set every day shooting with other people.
00:25:57.600 Wow.
00:25:58.600 It's not for everyone.
00:25:59.600 That's for damn sure.
00:26:00.600 Sure as hell not for everyone.
00:26:01.600 And you think they can make it work?
00:26:03.600 They do.
00:26:04.600 To this, to this day, they're still together.
00:26:06.600 The one, all the ones I know are still doing fine.
00:26:08.600 Really?
00:26:09.600 How long has it been that they're together for?
00:26:10.600 It's, it's a combination of a few different things.
00:26:12.600 I mean, there's one, one couple that comes to mind right now.
00:26:14.600 They've probably been together for at least, at least four years, at least four years.
00:26:18.600 Oh, I thought you were going to say like 10 or something.
00:26:20.600 I didn't, I've only met them like four or five years ago.
00:26:23.600 Okay.
00:26:24.600 It's that's, that's, that's one example of they're actually both stars.
00:26:27.600 There's another couple I know where she's a star and he's just a regular Joe.
00:26:31.600 They've been together.
00:26:32.600 They've been married for like, at least eight years.
00:26:35.600 Okay.
00:26:36.600 At least eight years.
00:26:37.600 They're going strong.
00:26:38.600 Seems happy.
00:26:39.600 Okay.
00:26:40.600 But I don't know what's going on behind his doors.
00:26:42.600 I don't know.
00:26:43.600 I don't know how genuinely happy he is.
00:26:45.600 I don't know how genuinely happy she is, but a lot of that seems to be like, I could
00:26:51.600 kind of encapsulate both those examples.
00:26:53.600 The one it's, at least on the woman's side, her getting certain needs met.
00:27:00.600 From one guy and other needs met from a bunch of dudes.
00:27:05.600 So like, not to say that the, her husband isn't fucking her right, but like, she's definitely
00:27:09.600 getting like a lot of her sexual fantasy needs met, obviously from, from her line of work
00:27:14.600 and what she's doing.
00:27:15.600 And the partner is purely there for like the emotional connection side of things.
00:27:20.600 Yeah.
00:27:21.600 And so they, they have the ability to, this is the common trait with like stars and only
00:27:26.600 fans, girls who will shoot like guy, girl porn is their ability to kind of separate emotion
00:27:33.600 and sex in very much the same way a guy can.
00:27:36.600 That's because you couldn't do the job.
00:27:39.600 Like if you didn't, it would be, they would, they would fall in love with every guy that
00:27:42.600 you had a scene with.
00:27:43.600 Right.
00:27:44.600 Or they'd get burnt out really quickly, which does happen.
00:27:46.600 You do see that.
00:27:47.600 And those girls get out of the industry very quickly.
00:27:49.600 They don't last very long.
00:27:50.600 Um, the turnover rate is super fast, especially in like Europe, but, uh, yeah, it's, it's,
00:27:57.600 it's a very special kind of woman who even has the ability, a unique type of woman who
00:28:02.600 has the ability to even do that in the first place.
00:28:04.600 Do you think it's possible for women?
00:28:06.600 Do you think it's possible for women to actually separate the two?
00:28:09.600 Not the average woman, but these women seem to do it.
00:28:12.600 Yeah.
00:28:13.600 Do, do you think they're born like that?
00:28:14.600 Or do you think it's developed over time?
00:28:17.600 I think.
00:28:20.600 About like where that comes from.
00:28:25.600 Right.
00:28:26.600 Cause okay.
00:28:27.600 Oxytocin.
00:28:28.600 Let's talk about oxytocin.
00:28:29.600 Oxytocin is very, very important chemical.
00:28:31.600 Um, I've heard, I hear this argument all the time on, on places like Twitter, for example,
00:28:36.600 that the female orgasm isn't important because you don't need it to reproduce babies, which
00:28:41.600 is true.
00:28:42.600 However, there is another really important reason for the female orgasm.
00:28:45.600 And that is a thing called oxytocin.
00:28:47.600 When a woman has an orgasm and there's other things that cause this to happen.
00:28:52.600 But when a woman has an orgasm as well, she gets a dump of oxytocin in her brain, which
00:28:56.600 is what will trigger that pair bonding between the partner.
00:28:59.600 Right.
00:29:00.600 Like the more sexual partners a woman has had, typically she produces less oxytocin.
00:29:06.600 Right.
00:29:07.600 With each additional guy.
00:29:09.600 So it's a consequence of like the lack of pair bond is a consequence, I think of just sleeping
00:29:15.600 around a lot.
00:29:16.600 Yeah.
00:29:17.600 And it's a developed ability to separate like sex and emotion like that.
00:29:21.600 Yeah.
00:29:22.600 That's what I thought too.
00:29:23.600 Cause most of the girls I know that like kind of went crazy when they were older.
00:29:27.600 I'm like, they didn't like, if I knew them from like young, you know, like most, I don't
00:29:32.600 know anyone that's done like only fans or anything like that.
00:29:34.600 But like, I do know a girl, a couple of girls that kind of went off the rails from like where
00:29:38.600 I'm from and they didn't start off like that.
00:29:41.600 Yeah.
00:29:42.600 It was something that seemed to kind of happen later.
00:29:44.600 Yep.
00:29:45.600 Yeah.
00:29:46.600 There's a lot of, there's also a lot of girls, like a lot of the MILF performers, like the
00:29:49.600 older girls who get into the industry and they get into the industry in their like thirties.
00:29:53.600 Yeah.
00:29:54.600 A lot of them actually tend to have come from like a swingers background.
00:29:57.600 Really?
00:29:58.600 It's very, very common.
00:29:59.600 Like they've, they were, they've been with like their husband for like long time.
00:30:03.600 The couple, the pair of them decided to experiment and get into the swingers scene.
00:30:07.600 Mm-hmm.
00:30:08.600 Which is, which is very often the dude's idea.
00:30:11.600 Really?
00:30:12.600 Very often the dude's idea.
00:30:13.600 I'm so surprised.
00:30:14.600 But here's why.
00:30:15.600 Wow.
00:30:16.600 It's the dude's idea because he thinks, oh, this is a free meal ticket to more pussy.
00:30:21.600 Oh.
00:30:22.600 But he doesn't realize, oh, it's way harder.
00:30:25.600 Even in the swingers scene, it's way harder, way less likely for him to get a nude chick.
00:30:29.600 And it's infinitely easy for his wife to get another dude.
00:30:32.600 Right?
00:30:33.600 So.
00:30:34.600 Oh, so he thinks he's going to be the one sleeping around, but generally it's her.
00:30:38.600 It's her.
00:30:39.600 Yeah.
00:30:40.600 Oh, so it's not really.
00:30:41.600 Wow.
00:30:42.600 Yeah.
00:30:43.600 What do you think about those stars that are women like Lana Rhodes, Mia Khalifa that come
00:30:49.600 back later and say they were coerced into it?
00:30:52.600 Yeah.
00:30:53.600 The coercion is a load of shit.
00:30:54.600 Okay.
00:30:55.600 To be, to be frank.
00:30:57.600 Like this, this whole idea in general, cause there's a big misconception about the street,
00:31:03.600 or at least I'll clarify the professional industry.
00:31:06.600 So like this is prior, like OnlyFans are kind of blurred and muddied the waters here a
00:31:10.600 lot.
00:31:11.600 Yeah.
00:31:12.600 But prior, cause OnlyFans has only been around for like five years.
00:31:15.600 Mm.
00:31:16.600 So prior to that, you like you had professional, which is basically like shooting for any of
00:31:20.600 these big studios.
00:31:21.600 You might've, you might find on like tube sites.
00:31:23.600 Right?
00:31:24.600 That is an incredibly professional industry.
00:31:28.600 Like loads of like consent forms, model releases, paperwork.
00:31:31.600 It's all professional, all done above board.
00:31:33.600 Right?
00:31:34.600 You do, you do not get into that industry by being coerced.
00:31:38.600 Right.
00:31:39.600 Like the, every agent I know in LA, they don't have to recruit.
00:31:44.600 They are inundated with applications from women, all the agents.
00:31:49.600 Wow.
00:31:50.600 They have, they have to cull.
00:31:51.600 They have to go for their inbox every day and be like, no, no, no.
00:31:54.600 She's cute enough.
00:31:55.600 No, no, no.
00:31:56.600 No, no, no.
00:31:57.600 Like there's not, they're not out there.
00:32:00.600 Like in the seedy underbelly of like the human trafficking area, trying to recruit girls.
00:32:05.600 Yeah.
00:32:06.600 I'm talking mainstream porn.
00:32:07.600 That is not the case, but that gets conflated a lot because there was a lot of, there was
00:32:13.600 a lot of, uh, how do I say this without you getting flagged?
00:32:16.600 Um, CAB, let's just say abuse material.
00:32:22.600 Oh, okay.
00:32:23.600 Okay.
00:32:24.600 On websites like pub.
00:32:26.600 Okay.
00:32:27.600 And they were profiting off of it.
00:32:28.600 They were making ad revenue off of it.
00:32:29.600 Okay.
00:32:30.600 It wasn't getting taken down.
00:32:31.600 That stuff is a hundred percent like based around like human trafficking and stuff.
00:32:34.600 Yeah.
00:32:35.600 But because it's on the same website as like all the professional stuff, it kind of gets
00:32:38.600 conflated together.
00:32:39.600 So when I, when a woman like, you know, Lana Rhodes or Mia Cleaver says like, I was coerced
00:32:43.600 into doing this, well, you had to like sign a consent form.
00:32:46.600 You had to sign paperwork.
00:32:47.600 You had to accept the job.
00:32:49.600 You had to get, you had to go like contact the agent to like get work in the first place.
00:32:54.600 Like where's the coercion?
00:32:55.600 Like where's the, it's up until like the whole way through.
00:32:58.600 It's like, like you making a choice, you making a choice, you making a choice, you making a choice.
00:33:02.600 Where's the, where's the coercion coming to it?
00:33:04.600 I'm confused.
00:33:05.600 Yeah.
00:33:06.600 Right.
00:33:07.600 Um, so that's, that's kind of.
00:33:08.600 That's my feeling on it too.
00:33:10.600 Cause I'm like, how the hell do you get coerced into doing like, that's my question.
00:33:15.600 I'm like, could you just say no?
00:33:17.600 Like, no, thank you.
00:33:18.600 Well, yeah.
00:33:19.600 Well, professional stuff.
00:33:20.600 It's a hundred percent.
00:33:21.600 Like you can, you can literally like, we have a thing in the industry called a no list as well.
00:33:24.600 Right.
00:33:25.600 So like you could like, and it's secret.
00:33:27.600 No one, like only your agent knows your no list.
00:33:29.600 Yeah.
00:33:30.600 I have a list of girls that I would not, what I would, I refuse to shoot with.
00:33:33.600 I had directors and companies I refuse to shoot with.
00:33:35.600 I had types of scenes I would refuse to do.
00:33:37.600 Yeah.
00:33:38.600 And every guy and girl in the industry has that.
00:33:40.600 And your agent respects that.
00:33:41.600 And he doesn't book your work that violates your no list.
00:33:44.600 Like it's super clear.
00:33:46.600 Well, and they always start an only fans later.
00:33:48.600 I'm like, what the.
00:33:49.600 Yeah.
00:33:50.600 That's the irony.
00:33:51.600 They'll go on like a ho apology tour and then start an only fans after.
00:33:55.600 I'm like, I thought you were sorry.
00:33:57.600 And, and still use their stage name.
00:33:59.600 Oh yeah.
00:34:00.600 That's so true.
00:34:01.600 Because it's search engine optimized.
00:34:03.600 Wow.
00:34:04.600 It's like, it doesn't.
00:34:05.600 But here's the thing.
00:34:06.600 So I'm not trying to, I'm actually excited with the Adam 22 thing.
00:34:09.600 I ain't trying to shit on Lana Rhodes and Mia Cleefier because again, these two women are
00:34:13.600 brilliant marketers.
00:34:14.600 Yeah.
00:34:15.600 Especially like, so Mia, Mia's been doing this longer.
00:34:17.600 Lana's just jumped on the train, but for the, like, I don't know how long, Mia's been
00:34:21.600 doing this for at least four years.
00:34:22.600 Yeah.
00:34:23.600 Every, every like 12 months, what she would do is she would, she would come out publicly
00:34:27.600 and shit on the industry and airs on Twitter.
00:34:30.600 Right.
00:34:31.600 And every girl who was currently in would retweet that shit in outrage.
00:34:35.600 And guess what would happen?
00:34:37.600 More eyeballs on Mia Khalifa.
00:34:38.600 Right.
00:34:39.600 She is not an idiot.
00:34:40.600 She is a very, very good marketer.
00:34:42.600 Same with, and Lana's doing the same thing.
00:34:44.600 Like Lana was at the top of the game.
00:34:45.600 She was one of the most popular, like most highly paid talent in the industry.
00:34:50.600 Yeah.
00:34:51.600 Even, you know, just before she, she left.
00:34:52.600 Mm-hmm.
00:34:53.600 But both of them have only fans and accounts, both of them are making money off of it.
00:34:56.600 So every time you, you can, you like buy into this, like out this rage bait, just realize
00:35:01.600 you're like, as angry as you are at it, you're, you're putting money in the bank account.
00:35:06.600 See, I don't really think that they're these smart marketers.
00:35:08.600 I really don't.
00:35:09.600 Or maybe their boyfriend is.
00:35:10.600 I'll give Adam 22.
00:35:11.600 I do think Adam, I mean, I don't think he can make that scene.
00:35:15.600 I just think women kind of go through a cycle and it's like, they're like, oh, I don't
00:35:21.600 want the consequence.
00:35:22.600 And then they're here and then they're trying to get rid of it.
00:35:24.600 Then they realize, oh, it doesn't really matter.
00:35:28.600 I'm going to have this consequence anyway.
00:35:30.600 Yeah.
00:35:31.600 Here, let me start my OnlyFans.
00:35:33.600 I just, I just, I don't believe it's that well thought out personally.
00:35:37.600 Maybe, maybe, maybe.
00:35:38.600 Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to call Lana Rhodes a brilliant marketer.
00:35:42.600 I can't, I can't.
00:35:43.600 I'm sorry.
00:35:44.600 I'll give it, Adam 22, I'll give it to you.
00:35:47.600 That man runs a whole production company, but.
00:35:50.600 I don't know.
00:35:51.600 I, I, you'd be, you'd be surprised how smart a lot of these girls are behind closed doors.
00:35:57.600 Um, what do you think about born again virgins?
00:36:00.600 Are you a born again virgin now?
00:36:02.600 I'm definitely not a born again virgin.
00:36:03.600 You're not?
00:36:04.600 You can't, you can't be a born again virgin.
00:36:06.600 That is, yeah, not possible.
00:36:08.600 Not possible.
00:36:09.600 You can't, you can't regain your V card.
00:36:11.600 Oh no.
00:36:12.600 But so what made you leave the porn industry though?
00:36:15.600 Very good question.
00:36:17.600 Um, it was largely a frustration of not being able to speak my mind.
00:36:22.600 Okay.
00:36:23.600 In case you can't tell I'm, I'm a lot more right leaning.
00:36:26.600 Okay.
00:36:27.600 Like my beliefs and my opinions, but politically and like socially and the entire country is
00:36:34.600 like all left wing.
00:36:35.600 Really?
00:36:36.600 It's based out of California.
00:36:37.600 It's all like, it all very much resonates with that whole like, um, agenda propaganda,
00:36:44.600 whatever you want to call it.
00:36:45.600 So like there was, there was lots of instances of, of I'd be on set.
00:36:49.600 This is actually perfect example.
00:36:50.600 Cause it was during like the Trump era.
00:36:51.600 Right.
00:36:52.600 I'd be on set and I was very pro Trump at the time, uh, until the back stuff happened.
00:36:56.600 And I'm like, ah, this guy's fucked up.
00:36:58.600 Yeah.
00:36:59.600 But basically, um, you'd be on set and you'd, and like my co-star would be, would be super
00:37:03.600 feminist.
00:37:04.600 The industry, all the women are feminists by the way, which might sound ironic, but they
00:37:08.600 are all a hundred percent feminists.
00:37:09.600 They all say they're feminists.
00:37:10.600 Well, that makes sense.
00:37:11.600 It's egalitarianism.
00:37:12.600 We can do what men can do.
00:37:13.600 Yeah.
00:37:14.600 Okay.
00:37:15.600 Yeah.
00:37:16.600 That's a good way of explaining it.
00:37:17.600 Yeah.
00:37:18.600 Yes.
00:37:19.600 And so, uh, you know, they, they come on, they'd be, they'd be bitching and whinging
00:37:22.600 about Trump or something.
00:37:23.600 And in the back of my head, I'm like, yes, nice one.
00:37:25.600 Like he nailed it there and I can't say shit.
00:37:28.600 Right.
00:37:29.600 So, but then you'd be blacklisted or something.
00:37:31.600 A hundred percent.
00:37:32.600 I would have not got work instantly.
00:37:33.600 Okay.
00:37:34.600 Instantly.
00:37:35.600 Have you said anything?
00:37:36.600 Anything.
00:37:37.600 Really?
00:37:38.600 Okay.
00:37:39.600 I'm getting out of this industry.
00:37:40.600 I actually went, I went on and tweeted some like red pill stuff.
00:37:44.600 And the very next day I was canceled.
00:37:45.600 Damn gone.
00:37:46.600 Like no more work.
00:37:47.600 Agent called me up.
00:37:48.600 He's like, what the fuck?
00:37:49.600 What are you doing?
00:37:50.600 What did you tweet?
00:37:51.600 Wasn't even that big of a deal.
00:37:52.600 I tweeted the big one that got me like mega canceled was if she calls herself a queen,
00:37:58.600 a princess, a brat or a bad bitch, she's probably not relationship material.
00:38:02.600 Okay.
00:38:03.600 I mean, that's basic.
00:38:04.600 Yeah.
00:38:05.600 Yes.
00:38:06.600 Thank you.
00:38:07.600 Yes.
00:38:08.600 Like basically don't date a narcissist.
00:38:09.600 Yeah.
00:38:10.600 That's what I was about to say.
00:38:11.600 It's narcissism.
00:38:12.600 Yeah.
00:38:13.600 What literally like almost every girl in the industry will kind of label.
00:38:17.600 We'll use one of those labels to the, to define themselves.
00:38:19.600 Okay.
00:38:20.600 It literally be in their Twitter bio.
00:38:22.600 So I was kind of being a bit cheeky.
00:38:23.600 I knew, I knew that would ruffle up some feathers, but, uh, I went cause I was in, I was actually
00:38:28.600 in Spain, no Portugal at the time when I tweeted it, went to bed.
00:38:32.600 But the Americans saw it and I woke up the next morning to about 900 Twitter notifications.
00:38:37.600 Wow.
00:38:38.600 It just, it just exploded around the industry.
00:38:39.600 And everyone was like, cancel this guy, cancel this guy, cancel this guy.
00:38:42.600 Like shit, just trying to shit on my reputation and stuff.
00:38:44.600 Like, yeah.
00:38:45.600 And that, but it was kind of like, it was, it was good because I, I was kind of like,
00:38:51.600 had like one foot still in it a little bit.
00:38:54.600 And that was all I needed.
00:38:55.600 Like, that was the confirmation.
00:38:56.600 Like, ah, this is the, this is what you, like you wanted, you wanted free speech, Sterling.
00:39:01.600 Use your free speech.
00:39:02.600 Go.
00:39:03.600 Did you get like a call from your manager?
00:39:05.600 Yeah.
00:39:06.600 Yeah.
00:39:07.600 And did he say you're basically shit out of work?
00:39:08.600 Yeah.
00:39:09.600 Okay.
00:39:10.600 Yeah.
00:39:11.600 And then you just kept going.
00:39:12.600 Yeah.
00:39:13.600 I built it.
00:39:14.600 I built a business off what I know how to teach.
00:39:16.600 Yeah.
00:39:17.600 And I'm an, I'm a quite, quite a good teacher and I have a, I actually have a scientific
00:39:20.600 background as well.
00:39:21.600 Okay.
00:39:22.600 So like I'm able to pull on a whole bunch of resources and I'm like, you know what?
00:39:25.600 It's going to be a challenge, but I'll make it work.
00:39:27.600 And I have, I'm very happy with it.
00:39:29.600 Do you think porn is a net good or net negative?
00:39:31.600 Net negative.
00:39:32.600 Easily.
00:39:33.600 Easily a net negative.
00:39:34.600 Is that weird having that opinion being that, how long did you do porn for?
00:39:37.600 Five, five years.
00:39:38.600 Five years.
00:39:39.600 Is it weird having that opinion, having done it?
00:39:41.600 Yeah.
00:39:42.600 It's a bit weird.
00:39:43.600 Cause it's, I look at the way I look at it now is like, I don't, I can't, I can't regret
00:39:48.600 having done it because if I hadn't have done it, I wouldn't have been in a position to
00:39:51.600 like have learned a bunch of stuff.
00:39:52.600 Okay.
00:39:53.600 I had to help guys like biohacks and things like that, but I'd learned from like older
00:39:56.600 veterans of the game.
00:39:57.600 Like what, like what to eat, what supplements to take, like how to exercise all this stuff.
00:40:02.600 I had to learn in order to be able to teach it to the average guy to help his sex life.
00:40:06.600 So I can't, I can't regret it like that.
00:40:08.600 But I just, the way I look at it now is like, I'm just trying to make up for like the damage
00:40:13.600 I did.
00:40:14.600 Okay.
00:40:15.600 Cause it's not, it's not like the, the only context I'm, you might be able to argue that
00:40:20.600 like kind of good is to spite, like for couples to watch, to kind of like spice things up a
00:40:25.600 bit again.
00:40:26.600 And they were like watching it together and like kind of creating a fantasy and just
00:40:29.600 redirecting that sexual energy into their relationship.
00:40:32.600 You can make an argument for that, but in general, like, especially like internet, man, like
00:40:39.600 that is horrific.
00:40:40.600 It's on every, on every kid's phone, like easily accessible.
00:40:44.600 Yeah.
00:40:45.600 Like Paul, like when I was growing up, it was like, I remember we, me and some friends,
00:40:49.600 we went down to the tip, like the local garbage dump.
00:40:52.600 Cause one of the kids knew that the local news agency had dumped a bunch of nudie mags
00:40:57.600 somewhere in the tip.
00:40:58.600 Yeah.
00:40:59.600 And we went around like half a day scrounging it.
00:41:01.600 And we eventually found like a pile of like this magazine and we all took one.
00:41:04.600 And that was like our masturbation material as teenagers for about six years.
00:41:09.600 Right.
00:41:10.600 Whereas now it's like the average guy today has seen more naked women than like Genghis
00:41:16.600 Khan would have seen in his lifetime.
00:41:18.600 Right.
00:41:19.600 Which is ridiculous.
00:41:20.600 The human, the male brain isn't really made for that level of sexual exposure.
00:41:25.600 I don't think it's, it's, it's a dangerous thing we're playing with.
00:41:29.600 Well, and even like, I have this argument.
00:41:32.600 Okay.
00:41:33.600 I'm curious.
00:41:34.600 Your, your take, what comes first?
00:41:37.600 Is it women asking for sexual attention from men or men asking for sex?
00:41:42.600 Hmm.
00:41:43.600 I would argue that women ask for sexual attention first.
00:41:46.600 My reason being is I was in Vegas and these chicks are walking, like they have stickers
00:41:50.600 on their boobs.
00:41:51.600 Yeah.
00:41:52.600 I'm like.
00:41:53.600 Well, it's, it's women asking for attention in general.
00:41:56.600 Yeah.
00:41:57.600 And because men view women as sexual objects, any attention is ergo associated with sex.
00:42:04.600 Do you think women are just as sexual as men?
00:42:06.600 Yes.
00:42:07.600 But they do, they defer their responsibility onto men.
00:42:12.600 Could you explain that more?
00:42:14.600 Like they, they will never take, they can't take responsibility for it.
00:42:17.600 And they can't really, the average woman cannot really initiate it.
00:42:20.600 Like they still have just as many sexual fantasies.
00:42:23.600 And if, and a lot of cases, women's sexual fantasies are a lot more perverted than guys' sexual fantasies.
00:42:27.600 A really good book to read is, uh, My Secret Garden by Nancy Friday.
00:42:31.600 Have you ever heard this book?
00:42:33.600 Hmm.
00:42:34.600 So Nancy, I think she was a New York Times journalist, I believe.
00:42:36.600 And she basically put an ad in the New York Times asking for women to write in their anonymous sexual fantasies.
00:42:41.600 Okay.
00:42:42.600 And it's just a compilation of that.
00:42:44.600 Is it like?
00:42:45.600 Very dark.
00:42:46.600 Is it like, cause I've heard there was a male OnlyFans model that came on the show.
00:42:51.600 And he said the number one thing he gets from women is like rape fantasies.
00:42:56.600 It's along those lines.
00:42:57.600 Yeah.
00:42:58.600 A lot of that, a lot of that stuff.
00:42:59.600 Yeah.
00:43:00.600 A lot of that stuff.
00:43:01.600 Yeah.
00:43:02.600 Super dark.
00:43:03.600 And I remember reading that in my early twenties and that like, that changed me from thinking
00:43:06.600 of women as like sugar and spice and everything nice.
00:43:08.600 Like, holy crap, women are perverts.
00:43:11.600 So it's, I think it's, it's good for the average man to understand that.
00:43:16.600 Now you could make the argument that maybe that's just modern women.
00:43:19.600 This book was written in like the eighties.
00:43:20.600 So it's still, it's not super, super, duper old.
00:43:23.600 Right.
00:43:24.600 But I do think that, uh, yeah, women tend to be a lot more sexual, but they're just
00:43:30.600 better at concealing it.
00:43:31.600 Well, maybe, well, but maybe not so much now.
00:43:33.600 Yeah.
00:43:34.600 They're walking around with just stickers on their titties.
00:43:36.600 Yeah.
00:43:37.600 They're not really concealing it.
00:43:38.600 What do you think?
00:43:39.600 Cause they'll just say, not all women are like that.
00:43:41.600 It's just the women that you know, Sterling.
00:43:43.600 Okay.
00:43:44.600 Well, but my sample size is like in, in excess, in excess of like 600 now.
00:43:48.600 Oh, wow.
00:43:49.600 So I'm not, that's, that's not, that's literally just because of, I know, I don't know.
00:43:53.600 I don't know.
00:43:54.600 I know how many scenes I did.
00:43:55.600 I know how many clients I did.
00:43:56.600 I know.
00:43:57.600 Right.
00:43:58.600 Like, okay.
00:43:59.600 Well, what's your sample size?
00:44:00.600 Right.
00:44:01.600 How many women have you interacted with in your life?
00:44:02.600 Their wife.
00:44:03.600 No, no.
00:44:04.600 Okay.
00:44:05.600 And maybe her friends.
00:44:06.600 Yeah.
00:44:07.600 Cool.
00:44:08.600 Like I'm taught, we can't, we can't talk about generalizations without taking like.
00:44:12.600 Yeah.
00:44:13.600 Yeah.
00:44:14.600 Like a big sample size.
00:44:15.600 So what do you teach guys?
00:44:16.600 Like what are the biggest problems that guys come to you with?
00:44:19.600 Cool.
00:44:20.600 Well, one of the first things I teach guys going back to your previous point is to not
00:44:24.600 watch.
00:44:25.600 Okay.
00:44:26.600 I'm very, very adamant.
00:44:27.600 I want to make sure it's very, very clear.
00:44:28.600 I tell every guy cut that shit out.
00:44:30.600 Right.
00:44:31.600 Because it can be something that really drags you back with a lot of these.
00:44:36.600 These are the problems that guys come to me with.
00:44:38.600 So two of the most common ones are either erectile dysfunction or premature ejaculation.
00:44:42.600 Those are two very, very common ones.
00:44:44.600 And the probably the third more common one is like, how do I generally, how do I get my
00:44:49.600 woman off?
00:44:50.600 Like, like, how do I get, get into orgasm in this position or that position?
00:44:53.600 No, like some kind of a more technical mechanical kind of a question like that.
00:44:58.600 Okay.
00:44:59.600 Yeah.
00:45:00.600 It's a big three.
00:45:01.600 Okay.
00:45:02.600 Um, why do you tell them not to watch porn?
00:45:05.600 A couple of really good reasons.
00:45:07.600 Um, one, from a brain chemistry perspective, like we mentioned before, like the average
00:45:11.900 guy seeing more titties, like a king or a sultan would have in his entire lifetime.
00:45:18.200 What that does is it screws around with your, your, um, your dopamine receptors when you're
00:45:22.300 constantly bombarding it to say, by the way, it's the exact same thing that incessantly scrolling
00:45:27.560 on TikTok does, the exact same thing that incessantly eating like sugary foods does.
00:45:32.560 It basically just destroys.
00:45:33.560 Really?
00:45:34.560 Eating sugary foods has the same effect as porn?
00:45:36.560 Well, it has an effect on your dopamine receptors, right?
00:45:38.560 Oh, okay.
00:45:39.560 It's a, it's a, it's a spike.
00:45:40.560 It's just like.
00:45:41.560 Right.
00:45:42.560 Sugary foods or, you know, uh, what you would call like comfort foods, right?
00:45:45.560 Right.
00:45:46.560 They use it to like, what are they, what's the comfort from?
00:45:48.560 The comforts from anxiety.
00:45:49.560 They're trying to like get some kind of a dopamine release.
00:45:52.560 Sugary foods tend to do that more than like veggies.
00:45:55.560 Right.
00:45:56.560 Yeah.
00:45:57.560 Right.
00:45:58.560 Yeah.
00:45:59.560 Fair enough.
00:46:00.560 Not to, not to the, maybe not to the same extent, but, uh, yeah, the idea is if you're
00:46:03.560 constantly bombarding your brain with dopamine, the receptors become less, like it causes less
00:46:07.560 of an effect on the, it takes a bigger dose.
00:46:09.560 Shall we say a bigger stimulus to cause the same effect?
00:46:13.560 Yeah.
00:46:14.560 So the guy who, you know, might've been, I was like jerk off to a glimpse of a woman's
00:46:19.560 ankle at one point.
00:46:20.560 Huh?
00:46:21.560 Now he, he has to go through like 50 odd videos to finally get his nut off.
00:46:25.560 So that's the, that's one of the big reasons it, it dampens his dopamine receptors, which,
00:46:29.560 which again leads to a whole bunch of other things.
00:46:32.560 Like it leads to reduce motivation, reduce drive from a guy, uh, reduces his ability to,
00:46:39.560 uh, climax, reduces his ability to get excited and aroused.
00:46:42.560 In front of a real woman.
00:46:43.560 Right.
00:46:44.560 Cause a real woman in front of him is not as novel and stimulating to his brain as the
00:46:49.560 50 different women he saw last night when he was jacking it.
00:46:52.560 Right.
00:46:53.560 So it's one of the first things dudes need to like cut out.
00:46:56.560 If they got, if they have any problem whatsoever in the bedroom, the first thing they should
00:47:01.560 be doing is cutting that out.
00:47:02.560 Yeah.
00:47:03.560 What can men do to maintain attraction in their relationships?
00:47:07.560 Be aware of the masculine and feminine polarity and being aware of like, like emphasizing your
00:47:18.560 masculine polarity.
00:47:19.560 So what I mean by that is women want to feel feminine.
00:47:24.560 Women want to be in that more, let's say submissive role in the bedroom.
00:47:29.560 And I would say outside the bedroom.
00:47:30.560 I think the bedroom is like a microcosm for what goes on outside the relationship.
00:47:34.560 Like I've had guys, for example, who I've taught how to be a bit more of a dominant, passionate
00:47:39.560 lover.
00:47:40.560 And then they'll email me back like a month later and be like, oh, she's, she's cooking
00:47:44.560 and cleaning again.
00:47:45.560 She's not, she's not nagging about taking the trash out.
00:47:47.560 Really?
00:47:48.560 So you think that what happens in the bedroom is like kind of a symbol almost for what's
00:47:53.660 going on in the relationship or it reflects it?
00:47:55.560 Yeah.
00:47:56.560 It reflects it.
00:47:57.560 It's the outside reflects the inside of the bedroom.
00:48:00.560 So like if the relationship dynamic in the bedroom is like polarized like that, she's going
00:48:05.620 to feel like he's the, an actual man when she like, let's give another example.
00:48:14.740 If she is the one who has to like lead sex, if he's constantly like begging for her to
00:48:21.020 initiate sex, taking like the supplicative role, she's not going to respect that man.
00:48:27.020 She's not going to get aroused by that man.
00:48:29.220 And then, okay, when, when they're outside the bedroom, that's when she starts, she's
00:48:32.920 going to start nagging him to take out the trash.
00:48:34.500 That's when she's going to start emasculating him in front of his friends and disrespecting
00:48:37.500 him in public.
00:48:38.500 Really?
00:48:39.500 So you almost think all of the relationship problems go back to sex.
00:48:42.500 I wouldn't say all of them, but I'd say that they, I'd say it is always a factor.
00:48:46.840 Wow.
00:48:47.840 I'd say it's, it's, it's, it runs parallel, right.
00:48:50.780 With a lot of stuff.
00:48:52.220 And that's why I think it's a very easy way to fix it because men are still allowed to
00:48:56.500 be men in the bedroom, right?
00:48:59.100 It's a bit like, if you were out, if you were out in public and like a man was trying
00:49:05.680 to say, let's, let's say he's trying to keep his woman in line or something like you're
00:49:09.720 showing too much shoulder, let's just say that as an example, right, he's saying that
00:49:12.220 out loud in public, you know, cover up your ankles.
00:49:14.060 Yeah.
00:49:15.060 Right.
00:49:16.060 Society, every, everybody around him is going to like look at him very negatively for being
00:49:21.320 that, for taking that role and taking that stance.
00:49:24.280 But in the privacy of the bedroom, he can take the leadership role or take the more masculine
00:49:28.720 role, be more passionate, be more dominant in that regard.
00:49:31.060 Obviously consensually, we're not saying anything's not consensual.
00:49:34.060 Yeah.
00:49:35.060 But he's allowed to do that because that's their intimate relationship, the two of them.
00:49:39.280 It's a consensual thing between the two of them.
00:49:41.340 No one's interfering with it.
00:49:43.040 So now we can start to repair, if the dynamic was off, we can start to kind of fix it by
00:49:48.900 just tapping, getting her back into a feminine, getting her back into that submissive mindset
00:49:52.540 where she can look up to a man, respect him and think, oh, this is why I fell in love
00:49:56.260 with this guy.
00:49:57.160 This is why I started going, like I started dating this guy because he's the fucking man, right?
00:50:02.720 He gets me off.
00:50:04.320 He arouses me.
00:50:05.320 He gets me wet between the legs.
00:50:07.100 She can't have those.
00:50:08.460 If she doesn't have those feelings at all for a man, that's, it's going to lead to a dead
00:50:12.160 bedroom.
00:50:13.160 It's going to lead to resentment.
00:50:14.160 It's going to lead to nagging.
00:50:15.160 It's going to lead to all kinds of other problems manifesting outside of it, right?
00:50:17.300 So in a large way, I think you would be quite, the average couple would be very, very surprised
00:50:23.100 how much they can fix, how many of these problems, you don't need to go to a therapist,
00:50:27.720 right?
00:50:28.720 You just need to learn how to dick her down properly and like, lay the pipe.
00:50:33.320 Oh, magically she's happy again.
00:50:35.320 Yeah.
00:50:36.320 I could really, it, okay, another example I'll give you is like, not just me, but also
00:50:41.640 friends of mine, we'll, you know, we'll take a girl out on a date who's a feminist and after
00:50:47.940 we're done, like if we, if we sleep with her once or twice, okay, now she's cooking and
00:50:52.220 cleaning around the house.
00:50:53.220 Like it's, it fixes a lot of stuff.
00:50:55.820 I've seen that on the show.
00:50:57.820 Like girls like will fight with a guy the whole show and then they'll hit on him after.
00:51:01.820 Yeah.
00:51:02.820 Yeah.
00:51:03.820 Yeah.
00:51:04.820 It's like, in most, but most guys have never had that experience in their life or they've
00:51:11.320 never seen anyone else do it.
00:51:12.820 So it sounds like we're in talking the realms of fantasy, but we're really not, this is well
00:51:18.940 within every guy's capability.
00:51:19.820 Have you ever had a guy that was in a super disrespectful, like maybe she was leading
00:51:25.420 relationship and you actually got him to turn it around?
00:51:28.980 Because I've heard like two schools of thought.
00:51:30.860 I've heard one school of thought that if a relationship starts that way or it's gotten
00:51:35.840 to that point, you just need to start over.
00:51:37.820 Like there's no fixing it.
00:51:40.360 And then, you know, I've heard people say that you can maybe turn it around.
00:51:43.600 So what's your.
00:51:44.600 Yeah.
00:51:45.600 I would.
00:51:46.600 Ask the guys like, okay, are you, are you married and are there kids involved?
00:51:50.100 Cause if there's kids involved and they're married and stuff, it's like, look, I'm not
00:51:54.320 going to tell the guy to like end the marriage.
00:51:56.760 Yeah.
00:51:57.760 I'm going to say, look, this is going to suck and it's not going to happen overnight.
00:52:00.000 It's going to take a while, but okay.
00:52:02.680 Maybe we should start with these little things in the bedroom, little, just not, not going
00:52:06.240 for all full out, but like little stuff.
00:52:08.040 And then we'll see over time, maybe we can start to steer this better in the right direction.
00:52:12.400 I have had at least one guy who's kind of from like a long, long term relationship has
00:52:16.960 managed to adjust the dynamic he had.
00:52:19.900 But typically if a guy's, if it's not, there's not kids involved and they're not married and
00:52:24.160 stuff like that.
00:52:25.160 I'll just say, just leave her, get a new girl.
00:52:27.900 Yeah.
00:52:28.900 Cause like this ain't like, if you have kids and kids with this woman or get married with
00:52:32.900 this woman now, it ain't going to fix it.
00:52:34.580 It ain't going to get better.
00:52:36.640 It's going to get way worse.
00:52:37.780 Cause now she's got all this power over you, like, yeah, it's always easier to kind
00:52:42.360 of start from something new, but you know, start, start with the, start with a foundation,
00:52:47.540 a solid foundation.
00:52:48.540 Yeah.
00:52:49.540 Right.
00:52:50.540 Yeah.
00:52:51.540 I think.
00:52:52.540 And that's, I mean, a bunch of the guys who follow consume, consume my, my YouTube material,
00:52:54.540 whatever they're, they're single guys.
00:52:55.540 And so I think I, by having them understand, like, you know, this idea of like a masculine
00:53:02.280 and feminine polarity, for example, they're going to at least start relationships a bit better
00:53:06.240 off than a guy who's ignorant of that.
00:53:08.700 So, um, one criticism that I hear a lot is from the conservative crowd a bit more that
00:53:18.000 red pill guys just tell the men to sleep around.
00:53:20.860 Um, you know, for example, I think Myron says you must sleep with 50 women before you settle
00:53:25.860 down.
00:53:26.860 Do you agree with that?
00:53:28.480 You know what in, in, it's kind of weird because I kind of, I agree with what he said
00:53:34.080 because it's like, I wouldn't have the knowledge I have if I hadn't have slept with as many
00:53:40.620 women as I had.
00:53:41.240 Yeah.
00:53:42.240 I wouldn't have the dynamic understanding.
00:53:43.240 However, does the average guy need to do that?
00:53:47.240 Not really.
00:53:48.240 Like you can, like, I know guys who picked this stuff up quicker than I did with far lower
00:53:54.240 body.
00:53:55.240 Like the dude has a far lower body count, but they got it quicker.
00:53:58.700 Like consuming stuff, like, like fresh and fit, like you, like me, you know, all these
00:54:04.160 people who want to help guys can help them to understand like the dynamics between men
00:54:08.620 and women.
00:54:09.620 So they, like you said before, they don't start the relationship off badly.
00:54:12.820 I would love it if every guy could do like one undone and it's a great relationship.
00:54:16.040 I would love that.
00:54:17.040 I would genuinely love that.
00:54:18.040 And they make, make everyone really happy.
00:54:20.460 Do I think it's realistic?
00:54:21.660 No, I don't think it's that realistic.
00:54:25.660 I think there is an, there is an abundance of, shit, we're probably going to get into
00:54:32.660 this a bit later tonight, but there's an abundance of women who are maybe like past their prime
00:54:37.140 or who are just, all these women want from their life is to just sleep around and have
00:54:43.520 a bit of fun.
00:54:43.900 Mm-hmm.
00:54:44.440 Okay.
00:54:45.280 Well, they, these are a, let's say good training wheels for a guy who was just trying to understand
00:54:52.000 women a bit better so that when he does find a woman who meets all of his criteria and
00:54:56.420 standards, a woman he can take seriously and settle down with, he's not going into that
00:55:00.720 relationship blind.
00:55:01.800 Like he's not going into it completely unaware of the kind of manipulation tactics that women
00:55:07.420 can use on him.
00:55:08.640 Mm-hmm.
00:55:09.640 I think that's a bit better.
00:55:10.760 Now you, you can find guys and I've, I've met a couple of guys who are like actual virgins
00:55:15.640 who have all this shit down pat already, if I could figure out a way to replicate that,
00:55:20.220 that, that's like a amazing thing because like, but I mean, look at, look at Steven Crowder,
00:55:25.280 for example, right?
00:55:26.600 Married his wife as a virgin and he, he's one, he's one such guy I would have said, I would
00:55:30.800 have said in the past, I think he's actually, he actually understands a lot of the stuff
00:55:35.060 we talk about, but evidently not quite so.
00:55:39.880 Yeah.
00:55:40.260 And that was really unfortunate because they all labeled him as an abuse.
00:55:43.400 Like it was, it was rough.
00:55:44.580 Yeah.
00:55:45.240 That was rough.
00:55:47.080 So you've said in the past, men should be able to control their emotions.
00:55:50.980 Women should be feminine and men should be masculine.
00:55:55.060 Why?
00:55:56.360 I know.
00:55:57.000 I want an emotionally available guy.
00:56:00.780 No, you don't.
00:56:02.340 You don't want an emotionally erratic guy.
00:56:04.540 Yeah.
00:56:05.220 Like you can have a, like a guy can have emotions, but he's in control of them.
00:56:09.400 That's what stoicism is.
00:56:10.760 Yeah.
00:56:11.400 Like you don't not feel emotions.
00:56:12.940 That would make you like a sociopath.
00:56:15.500 And that's what I'm not saying.
00:56:16.520 I'm not saying guys should be psychopathic or sociopathic.
00:56:18.660 Guys can have an emotion, but this is the way I was taught to think about it at a young
00:56:23.500 age.
00:56:24.400 Every emotion you have is a choice because you get external stimulus from the world.
00:56:29.540 It passes through like a filter and then your brain decides how to interpret that.
00:56:34.840 So like, I don't know, let's say some guy cuts me off in traffic, right?
00:56:42.100 External stimulus has now hit my brain.
00:56:43.800 There's a moment there where I can make a decision about how I'm going to react to it.
00:56:49.560 I can choose to get pissed off and assume he's being a dickhead.
00:56:52.420 Or I can choose to not get pissed off, make sure I don't crash my car and think, well, maybe this
00:56:58.520 guy's on his way to the hospital.
00:57:00.240 Maybe he's got a pregnant wife and they're passionate to see it and he's in a rush.
00:57:03.000 Yeah.
00:57:03.280 I don't know.
00:57:04.340 But there's a choice there.
00:57:05.840 But before every emotion you feel, you have a choice whether to feel it or not.
00:57:10.880 So being in control of your emotions rather than having your emotions control you is,
00:57:14.760 I think, very healthy for men, very healthy for society, very healthy for relationships.
00:57:19.480 And the opposite of a dude who's super erratic, no impulse control.
00:57:24.100 What does that lead to?
00:57:24.900 That leads to violence, that leads to crime, that leads to like all kinds of problems.
00:57:28.120 Yeah.
00:57:28.940 I even think women can learn from that too.
00:57:31.460 Totally.
00:57:31.640 Because I think a lot of times, especially like in relationships, sometimes something happens
00:57:37.020 or we get mad over things that are small and we think it's like bigger than it is.
00:57:40.920 Yeah.
00:57:41.160 And I always think like by giving people the benefit of the doubt, it's like, I don't know.
00:57:47.100 Yeah.
00:57:47.500 Some people will take advantage of it, but I think in general, most people are good.
00:57:51.880 They want to do the right thing.
00:57:53.220 Yeah.
00:57:54.080 And people just have bad days.
00:57:55.780 Yeah.
00:57:56.280 Yeah.
00:57:56.480 People just have a bad day.
00:57:57.840 I've had shitty days in the past.
00:57:59.220 I've been a complete dick to my friends and employees and girlfriends and stuff before.
00:58:03.340 Yeah.
00:58:03.600 But it's like, I'm not that way all the time.
00:58:05.660 Yeah.
00:58:06.000 I've just had a bad day.
00:58:06.680 Yeah.
00:58:07.220 You know?
00:58:07.520 And like, I think that most people are generally good people.
00:58:11.600 Good at heart.
00:58:12.340 Or they think they're at least doing good.
00:58:15.100 They might be a bit delusional about the way the world works.
00:58:19.280 Yeah.
00:58:19.720 So they're just doing what they know is best.
00:58:23.280 How did you get connected to the Tates?
00:58:25.880 Through Twitter of all things.
00:58:27.040 Okay.
00:58:27.420 Yeah.
00:58:27.740 Me and Tristan started talking on Twitter.
00:58:29.480 Had Tristan on my YouTube channel.
00:58:31.800 Interviewed him a while back.
00:58:33.400 And then me and Andrew started chatting.
00:58:34.840 And then I met up with him in Vegas.
00:58:36.960 They were putting on an event in Vegas in 2021.
00:58:40.260 They invited me along.
00:58:41.540 That same night I met them.
00:58:43.060 I also met Justin Waller.
00:58:44.380 Yeah.
00:58:45.520 A few other guys who I'm still friends with to this day in this one sort of event.
00:58:49.620 Really, really, really cool night.
00:58:50.900 Yeah.
00:58:51.120 And then they hung out in a bunch of different countries together.
00:58:55.280 Had a bunch of fun times.
00:58:57.160 And yeah.
00:58:58.280 Are you in the war room?
00:58:59.580 I am.
00:59:00.000 Okay.
00:59:00.360 So what is that?
00:59:01.980 It's a business network, an international business network for guys.
00:59:05.180 Not just business though, primarily.
00:59:07.700 A better way of saying it is like it's a brotherhood network, really.
00:59:11.300 Kind of like the emphasis of it is like adventures of excellence with like a community of brothers.
00:59:16.360 Yeah.
00:59:16.940 It's like doing really cool shit with guys you share a common worldview with.
00:59:22.100 Mm-hmm.
00:59:22.400 And that's kind of how me and Justin met.
00:59:24.820 Yeah.
00:59:25.080 That's what we've been doing for the last couple of years.
00:59:27.940 Going on crazy adventures together and having a great time.
00:59:30.620 That's kind of what the war room really tries to facilitate.
00:59:33.460 Is a place where men can be men.
00:59:35.420 Men can find other guys who they get along with, who share hobbies.
00:59:39.160 Like be that racing cars.
00:59:40.600 Be that firearms.
00:59:42.320 Be that dog training.
00:59:44.300 Like hiking.
00:59:46.200 Like anything you can possibly imagine.
00:59:49.440 Like business, obviously.
00:59:50.720 Like social media stuff.
00:59:51.760 Like trading, crypto, real estate.
00:59:55.280 Anything you can think of.
00:59:56.040 There's like different kind of groups within that group where these guys can share these ideas.
01:00:00.640 And it's super useful, man.
01:00:02.200 Like if I have a problem with anything.
01:00:05.040 Right.
01:00:05.440 If I want to learn something really quickly.
01:00:07.180 Like I have a question about real estate.
01:00:08.460 I have a question about like stocks or something.
01:00:10.640 I can just drop a message.
01:00:12.220 And an expert in that field will be able to answer me like instantly.
01:00:15.720 It's ridiculous.
01:00:16.980 What has it been like watching your friend get canceled?
01:00:20.800 Thrown in jail.
01:00:22.200 Have all these baseless accusations thrown at them.
01:00:25.580 Sucks.
01:00:26.280 Yeah.
01:00:26.600 It sucks for them.
01:00:27.140 Um, and it's, it's, it's, it sucks to see like some people, two guys you genuinely care
01:00:34.660 about, you know, who, who, you know, are some of the most generous people on the planet.
01:00:40.620 They, they, people don't really understand how lovely these two guys are behind closed
01:00:45.060 doors because all they see is like the internet kind of persona and what people push out and
01:00:50.360 retweet and, and what goes viral.
01:00:52.220 Right.
01:00:53.080 But when you actually get to spend time random one-on-one, like cameras off, like it's just
01:00:58.100 guys shooting the shit.
01:00:59.180 They're amazing dudes, lovely dudes.
01:01:00.980 Not to say that they aren't on social media either, but it really shows you like how impactful
01:01:11.500 Andrew is because they want to shut him up.
01:01:14.200 Right.
01:01:14.680 Like he's been almost locked up for a year now.
01:01:18.320 There's nothing, they're not going to put him in jail.
01:01:20.620 Like they would have by now, like they're not going to put him in jail.
01:01:24.160 And it's clearly just them trying to silence him.
01:01:26.780 They're trying to make Andrew irrelevant.
01:01:29.140 That's what they're trying to do.
01:01:30.120 Like if we just, okay, if we put him away in jail for long enough, if we put him in his
01:01:33.320 on house rest long enough, we just keep him in Romania for long enough.
01:01:35.480 If we take away his cars, he can't go out and flex and be seen.
01:01:39.160 If we, you know, limit like his social media accounts, like he can't influence people.
01:01:44.360 Like that's going to reduce his effect on the world, but they've just turned Andrew into
01:01:48.600 a martyr.
01:01:49.260 Right.
01:01:49.940 Like he's, he's one of the few people who's gone more viral after it got canceled.
01:01:53.500 Yeah.
01:01:53.800 Probably the only one I can think of.
01:01:55.480 Yeah.
01:01:55.640 I don't know anyone that's been taken off all platforms and is more well-known.
01:01:59.380 Right?
01:01:59.860 Yeah.
01:02:00.380 So the plan completely backfired.
01:02:02.340 Yeah.
01:02:03.280 How are they doing?
01:02:04.260 Yeah, they're fine.
01:02:05.220 Yeah.
01:02:05.680 Like these, these two guys are really hard to like, you can't, you can't like screw
01:02:09.940 with these two guys.
01:02:10.680 Yeah.
01:02:11.300 Like they are, especially like together, they are the strongest pair of men I have ever
01:02:17.720 met.
01:02:18.140 Like not just physically, but mentally, these guys, you can't break them.
01:02:22.120 So, and they, and they've got each other.
01:02:24.420 They haven't, they, they love each other's company.
01:02:26.160 They love like, they love living in Romania for a start.
01:02:28.420 They love Bucharest.
01:02:29.280 Yeah.
01:02:29.540 Like they've got, they've got their family, their family's safe, most importantly.
01:02:32.340 So yeah, they're doing fine, but it's.
01:02:35.360 The day can't come soon enough when these guys actually get released for God's sake.
01:02:39.400 Do you think it's important for men to have a group of men around them?
01:02:43.120 Absolutely.
01:02:43.560 Yeah.
01:02:44.180 It's something I was missing it completely.
01:02:46.280 Really?
01:02:46.480 I didn't realize, I didn't realize until I like joined the war room and met a bunch
01:02:51.020 of guys in there and found guys that I resonated with.
01:02:54.260 It was, for me, it was kind of like, prior to that, prior to like joining the war room,
01:02:57.580 I, there was probably like one, maybe two guys in my whole life who I basically, who had
01:03:01.720 stuck by me my whole life.
01:03:03.120 And we'd very much gone on the same journey and shared a similar worldview.
01:03:06.220 And then I joined the war room and I was like, oh, this is where everybody is.
01:03:10.640 This is where all these guys are.
01:03:12.380 They're all here.
01:03:13.440 That's surprising to me that you didn't have a ton of like guy friends before.
01:03:16.920 Like I had, I had guy friends from like university and stuff, but then I left Australia, came
01:03:20.740 to America.
01:03:21.500 You moved around.
01:03:22.580 Yeah.
01:03:22.760 I bounced around a lot.
01:03:23.460 And it's the guys that I stayed in touch with were the ones that I would say, I say to this
01:03:28.700 day, are like my closest friends.
01:03:30.180 Right.
01:03:30.840 But then I made a whole bunch more super, super close friends.
01:03:34.180 One of the reasons I moved out to Marbella, like a bunch of guys out there who I really
01:03:38.700 resonate together.
01:03:39.620 And it's, it's just, it's just nice.
01:03:42.760 Like the average guy was probably very lonely.
01:03:46.500 Yeah.
01:03:46.820 The average guy, actually, especially the average like entrepreneurial guy.
01:03:51.280 Yeah.
01:03:51.720 Because being an entrepreneur, you know this, like it's, it's, it's a very like lonely kind
01:03:55.780 of experience, lonely kind of journey, right?
01:03:57.600 You've got to like, you're taking a lot of responsibility on yourself.
01:04:00.060 Like sometimes like your team members don't necessarily know why you've chose a certain
01:04:03.880 direction or not.
01:04:04.900 Yeah.
01:04:05.180 Um, yeah.
01:04:06.620 And the average person who's working like a nine to five can't necessarily really relate
01:04:09.600 to you and what you're doing.
01:04:10.700 So it could be a kind of isolating experience.
01:04:12.500 So when you surround yourself with other dudes who are doing that kind of same thing, it's
01:04:17.220 really refreshing.
01:04:18.500 Yeah.
01:04:19.320 Very nice experience.
01:04:20.260 So where can the people that want to find you, where can they find you?
01:04:24.780 You can go to, uh, YouTube and you can type in Sterling Cooper.
01:04:28.020 I'm the first thing that comes up, uh, which is great.
01:04:31.200 Uh, SterlingCooper.com.
01:04:33.240 Another great place to go find like all of the things I have to offer you guys, all the
01:04:36.840 solutions I offer guys.
01:04:38.220 Uh, yeah.
01:04:38.780 Like my books and my video courses, et cetera.
01:04:40.460 Um, or you can just get on my free email list.
01:04:42.220 I've got a free ebook, which puts you on my free email list and you can listen to all
01:04:45.100 my various musings on masculinity, on health, on fitness.
01:04:48.080 I, I just dump a ton of stuff on, on guys every day in the inbox.
01:04:51.020 So you have a course coming out soon, don't you?
01:04:53.140 I have, well, I actually have a supplement line coming out right now.
01:04:57.900 Um, I've been, like I said before, I've got, my background is chemistry.
01:05:01.840 I was actually a published scientific author before I even graduated.
01:05:05.680 Oh, wow.
01:05:06.300 Oddly enough.
01:05:06.760 Yeah.
01:05:06.980 Most of them don't know that.
01:05:08.840 Um, and so for the last 12 months, I've basically been formulating effectively like
01:05:13.680 what a supplement based around what I used to take every day before I would go shoot a
01:05:18.260 scene in order to make sure I was like ready to rock and roll consistently like on, on command.
01:05:23.880 So that's something I've been working on for the last 12 months.
01:05:26.020 I've finally found a really good American manufacturer to crank it out.
01:05:29.560 Very, very happy with it.
01:05:30.720 And, uh, yeah, that's, it's cool.
01:05:32.160 If you go to clubhousesupplement.com, that's where you'll find that stuff.
01:05:36.580 And is that, does that help with like the testosterone?
01:05:39.240 Cause isn't, I would imagine that's part of the erectile stuff is like people, the lack
01:05:43.980 of testosterone.
01:05:45.240 No, it can contribute to it.
01:05:47.580 Oh, wow.
01:05:47.940 The main, the main reasons behind erectile dysfunction is about three, the three key
01:05:52.300 mechanisms of them.
01:05:53.600 One is a problem with like the arteries themselves.
01:05:58.320 So people, you know, people think of like cardiovascular health, right?
01:06:01.320 And you can get arterial plaques and things like that.
01:06:03.300 People think of it being associated with just the heart, but your penis has arteries too.
01:06:07.540 And they can also get those same kind of arterial plaques and thus it can limit the blood
01:06:11.020 flow down there.
01:06:11.800 That's the first thing that we want to work on getting rid of and kind of cleaning out.
01:06:15.280 The second thing is like blood flow itself, nitric, which is based around nitric oxide
01:06:19.140 production.
01:06:20.140 So nitric oxide, when, when dudes go to the gym and they get, they get a pump, right?
01:06:24.280 That's nitric oxide causing their blood vessels to expand and relax.
01:06:27.280 The erection is actually a relaxation response.
01:06:29.700 People don't really think of it that way, but it is.
01:06:31.680 You get nitric oxide, dilate your blood vessels.
01:06:33.440 They fill with, with more blood and thus things get bigger.
01:06:36.060 And the third problem that, that tends to happen is a thing called venous leakage.
01:06:40.140 So if you've ever seen someone with varicose veins before, there's like kind of spidery
01:06:44.040 veins that go on the leg or whatever.
01:06:46.120 That's a problem with what's called venous leakage, which is basically there's, there's
01:06:49.440 kind of like these locks in your arteries, which help blood only flow in like one direction.
01:06:55.080 When those like locks kind of get weak, the blood can kind of move back and forth.
01:06:59.180 It can move backwards as much as it's moving in forwards.
01:07:01.280 And it kind of just sits in pools on the surface rather than moving like in the direction it's
01:07:04.840 supposed to.
01:07:05.480 So when you fix that and you, you, you get, you supplement with things that can actually
01:07:09.620 maintain the health of those valves.
01:07:11.600 You keep everything like locked in the place you want it to be locked in.
01:07:14.940 All the blood stays in the one spot, much longer.
01:07:18.260 Okay.
01:07:18.840 And so that the supplement like helps with that basically.
01:07:21.920 All the ingredients in this supplement are specifically engineered towards that.
01:07:26.140 Wow.
01:07:26.520 Yeah.
01:07:26.880 Very cool.
01:07:27.280 Yeah.
01:07:27.540 That's, that's what I've been working on for like 12 months.
01:07:29.360 Well, thank you very much for coming on today.
01:07:32.000 Thank you, Bill.
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