The Truth About Monogamy
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss cheating, monogamy, polyamory, and what it means to be a man in the 21st century, and how to deal with it. We have a special guest on the show this week, and she has a very interesting perspective on the topic.
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I don't believe that men can not cheat okay and when I say men I mean most men
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I think I think I think they're just built to your day in the 20% you mean
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we're not designed designed to be with one person designed to cheat because
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that because you're assuming that the woman is like somehow like deserving of
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yeah I don't I don't I don't believe that men can just be one person is that from
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experience you've been like cheated on a lot I've in fact I've been cheated on but
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I've never found out until when I was it was way way way way something he's never
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affected me but I kind of feel like it's a scientific or genetic whatever you
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want us what however you want to put it I feel like men they they think with
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their penis penises and I wouldn't I personally if I was with someone for many
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many years and then I found out that they cheated on me I wouldn't throw away a
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whole that you know that whole sort of relationship for for one person who was
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probably insignificant I wouldn't because she did that's that that was the
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difference though she did say if it was a side chick like having a
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relationship on the side you'd still be speaking to them wasn't I'm sorry if it
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wasn't a one-night stand if it was a one-night stand or a relationship over a
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period of time is that both acceptable yeah okay and what do you think if if he
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does cheat on you would you think that he still loves you yeah I would I don't I don't
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think I don't think I don't think a man cheating means he doesn't love his his
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partner agreed because I think I think we're not not to be controversial but
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monogamy is a social construct yeah which isn't bad it's you know it works for
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our society and it's very much if without a society societal construct a
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social construct we would do what we want we do as we please we brought right
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back down to our biology exactly the 20% will get the 80% so because we have to stay
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with one no because we're not because we have to stay with one woman in the
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West it enables more men to have a woman if they had polygamy yeah the best men
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would get the best wives but I mean no I mean I do I do I do think men are
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biologically predisposition to cheat but I also think you can make choices to not
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put yourself in those situations yeah so I kind of I kind of understand what both of
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you guys are saying because I wanted I really do think a lot of guys if it's
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thrown at them are gonna have a really hard time turning it down and there's
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gonna be a very like like Tiger Woods I think of right he he had that hole he
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had like Facebook groups full of women right and then like that man was wild and
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but but like most guys don't have a bus full of Brazilian models waiting for
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them at the end of a golf course I think most men couldn't turn that down but at
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the same time like my dad never cheated on my mom right and he's in a top half a
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percent of earners but he just doesn't drink and doesn't put himself in those
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situations so I know I was very good at it I don't think just because you're
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biologically predisposed to to cheat or to be polygamous I don't I don't think that
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means you need to act on it what I would say as an example is if it's it's men are
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biologically predisposition to violence far more than women okay now if a man
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started to bat the shit out somebody in the street what's the first thing we'd
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all say why can't you control yourself yeah right so I think you can also apply
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it to this I think this is gonna piss a lot of men off I'm sorry but the truth of
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the matter is yes I will agree you are biologically predisposition to to have
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more than one woman to seek out more than one woman spread your seeds so to call it
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right that doesn't mean you need to act on it and I think as a man you can truly
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be happy long-term without acting on it I think you can like it's men are more
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loyal to their friends than the others their women sometimes men will not sleep
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with a friends if if men will say I'm not sleeping with a girl that's been with
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their friend or that's a friend that's not loyal but they'll sleep around behind the
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woman they're supposed to love more than anything but no no no the reason why I don't
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sleep with my friends with the girl that's been with my friend is because I don't like
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I don't want my I'm not saying the woman that slept around I'm saying if your friend
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was in a relationship with a girl or like someone your friend not even a relationship say
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your friend had fancied a girl who liked a girl and had told you you probably wouldn't
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go there because of your friend but what I'm saying to you is you will go behind
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you will sleep out of your marital beds because men show loyalty to women in
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different ways yeah and so so them it's protection and provisioning that's like
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that's how they show loyalty okay and you're protecting they're not
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protected by sleeping about that's not very good no no no it's resources right
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there they're not perfect for it's and protection so if someone breaks into your
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house who's expected to go go fight the robber whatever it is that's protection
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but if with their friends like they don't get their protection and provisioning
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yeah you're judging us by the woman's measuring stick yeah I don't think that
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means men are more loyal to their friends than their partners we as men we
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provide a different set of values for you so though a man may cheat the values that
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he is providing to you again it all goes back to the way we are on a
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biological level this isn't agreed upon by most people from what I've seen yeah
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but the science is very clear that we are all still our brains are still ancient
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that's just the truth of matter so if you're gonna act out of impulse that's a
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biological impulse and your brain the decisions that you make the way you think
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is actually still very primal so for a man to look at another woman and cheat now I'm
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not saying he has to do it you can't argue a man for the impulse for the lust and
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I would even go as far as to say acting on it however the values that he
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provides you are physical security now in modern day times financial security
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okay and ultimately he can go out and fend for himself and get all of the
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resources needed okay I think ultimately women care more about those traits those
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qualities that a man can provide if he is to fuck up and accidentally sleep with a
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woman but he can still provide all of those things for you I think and it I
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think it also does depend on age right so if you're younger you're far more
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likely to go I've got no real investment in this man fine I can move on but I've I
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can see many situations in my life and we probably all can where the man so she's
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invested in a man to such that she's now got a house on a mortgage she's now got
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many many kids they are married one slip up I think if women are deep down honest
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with themselves they'll admit that that one slip up I don't think it does
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anything I don't think I don't think it means he loves me any less I'm saying
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having a whole other relationship that's detrimental okay but that's that's
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different yeah that is that is different a relationship is very
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different honestly the older generation still got through that they did I know so
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many grandparents that had like side chicks for a hot minute and I don't I
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don't agree with it but I think they were just kind of built of a different
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cloth right would you know would you would you accept cheating would I accept
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cheating I always say if I had kids it's not about me anymore because once you
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have kids you put the kids first so if I had kids know I I or if I had kids I
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would accept it if I didn't have kids now I'm leaving on the flip side of that if if we're
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accepting cheating and our children are also seeing the aftermath of that what
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it's it's it's very so well well the kids shouldn't know I mean I I'm sorry but
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yeah that's just a responsibility that's irresponsible to let your kids know what
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your marriage problems are kids kids know a lot and they don't say so you might
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you might not necessarily want your kids know or even know that your children know
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but you know that they're not how how would kids know that he cheated not
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necessarily that he cheated but say for instance they might know there's fighting
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say for instance I was with a I was with my partner and he cheated and and that
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affected me in a way where I was completely depressed for my whole year
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that's gonna affect the children right but you're depressed yeah but if I'm
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depressed I can't look after my children properly
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well I feel like that's your that's your that's your
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that's your problem you're depressed it's not it's not a problem because it's
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effective okay but but you shouldn't let it affect your kids wait hold on hold on you said what so if
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counselors you had a lot of depression is is a mental health issue yeah you can't say oh you
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shouldn't be depressed that doesn't make sense I'm saying you can be sad and you
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you can be depressed but the way you act is a choice and you should be a mother
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first and put you before you and put your kids before you it's not about you
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anymore once you have children but you could try to put them first but
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ultimately some people you can get yeah you can you could get help but I'm
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saying that help could take a whole year that that rebuilding of yourself could
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take a whole year or six months what's the alternative right because the
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alternative is putting your kid at a statistical disadvantage there's a
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there's a single mother to prison pipeline so if I put my I put the I put
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my kid at the disadvantage not the man that cheated now if it's where does the
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response it's who breaks up the home who leaves whoever yeah yeah but we also
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said that in cases of domestic violence is different yeah so what I'm saying is so
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I'm with I've I've told my partner that I'm gonna have kids with if you cheat I'm
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leaving he's decided to cheat on me and I have left now I've made my kids become a
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only if you act a certain way only if you act a certain way it's my fault okay okay okay I
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think I think we can agree common sense right yeah if you break up your home then you leave
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your kids at a statistical disadvantage yeah but when you get married are there not vows
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therefore if a man then then goes out and cheese then it's isn't it him that breaks he's broken
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yeah no because he didn't break in the contract he didn't leave he didn't leave the marriage
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you broke the rules so ultimately you are the catalyst you're the catalyst right break up but
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you're putting yourself before your children as the mother you are not you're supposed to love your
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kids more than yourself so did he himself before all of us cannot can I quickly ask a question
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sorry right this now this is aside from cheating if a man was struggling financially wasn't doing too
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well with money he couldn't find a job or he was down in the dumps and his ability to provide had now
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been knocked if he was to basically just sit around and mope and act all depressed what would you say to
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him I'm going to help you get up and get back on your feet and get back maybe in the beginning
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but as time goes because a minute ago your example was for a year if I'm depressed does he have a year
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to be depressed and not get shit done you would now turn around and look at him and go bollocks to that
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your feelings come second to us and the kids and what goes on in the household and the security
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I think I think that is a massive double standard that example is a bit different yeah I would
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because the guy loses his job outside of outside of yeah but I did state from the beginning that it is
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aside from the thing but yeah ultimately where it's the same principle it's one minute I'm depressed
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and I'm putting that on my kids and they're suffering and if a man is depressed and he's
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putting that on the kids and now the wife and the kids are suffering her her attitude is you need to
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man up and get on with it so why as a woman can you not put it aside and just get on with it
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