These Modern Women CONFIRMS the TOXICITY of Feminism
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In this episode, we discuss feminism and its impact on society. Is feminism toxic? Is feminism good for society? Is it bad for society How has feminism impacted society in the past, and how has it impacted us in the present?
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is feminism topic or is feminism toxic so question for the panel do you think that
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feminism is toxic yes or no and tell me why starting here and then go around yes feminism
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is absolutely toxic it's completely terrible for society it's destroying men it's destroying women
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i think it's probably one of the worst things to happen to male and female relationships so yeah
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absolutely agree i don't know i think i'm 50 50 i think it's good for us females to
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i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't want to say something and then
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people don't agree with me but it's okay it's okay we allow all disagreements on the shelf so
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it's okay there are no wrong answers um i would just say it's 50 50 okay but if 64 if you had to pick
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one side um yeah okay yeah you do think it's toxic yeah it's very toxic okay what do you think yeah
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i think it's toxic i think it breaks down the family units and i also think it impacts society
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in a negative way as a as a man identifying as a woman to compete in women's sports i think it's
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great uh it has really increased my athletic performance relative to my competition
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and i'm looking forward to being called stunning and brave um but in all seriousness i mean
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any ideology probably starts out at some point with some positive attributes that are necessary for
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for society right um but like every ideology eventually becomes weaponized and i think right
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now we're living in a world where you ladies are acknowledging it as well which is very strange
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for a woman to say that like oh you know feminism stocks because you're a woman you should be like
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yay feminism right so i think we're starting to come around as a society and realizing that there's a
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there's a certain ideological weaponization where feminism went from empowering women to just
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shitting on men and that's uh that's a bad line okay so when do you think feminism is ever empowering
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for women that's a great question do you want to go like kind of historical argument or where are we
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going for this yeah yeah when uh okay so so there's there's like kind of an interesting
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there's obviously this is such a granular argument like there's so many flavors to this it's not like an
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out right you know you know and i don't want to be like sounding like oh i'm not going to take a
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position like i have a position right like for example um my mom is a computer scientist as an
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example right like she's very intelligent she went all the way through the school got her master's and
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phd whatever she got um and so she she performed she just retired like this month but she performed at
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a very high level a very male-dominated industry and frankly she's not a very feminine woman so like the
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opportunity for her to go all the way in her education which was in math and computer science and then
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implement that for her career was very beneficial for her like she would not fit the mold of a
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woman that is in a you know let's say more controlled society where that might have not
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been an option right because she's not a good house she was a terrible wife but then what does
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that have to do with feminism what does her success have to do with them well so so you're i understand
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what you're saying so when you go back to like for example one of the stand countries right now where
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maybe 15 20 years ago women were not allowed to get an education above let's say the fourth or fifth
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grade level and you might say fine but i would say okay at that point you need it to push it a little bit
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further right like if you have to tell girls you're a writer right we had a conversation before
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we started you're smart like you know things you quoted aldous huxley i'm like ah she reads
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yeah but what's that got to do with feminism when you put that down to somebody's individual merits
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right personal well the the original the original premise behind feminism now we're going back a couple
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hundred years here was that women were were allowed to substantially be educated as much as men
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because certain religions let's say forbade women from getting a higher level education like they
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were not even allowed to read under most sort of the archaic religions right so there was a time
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there was a time where and that was you know a while ago there was a time where you would not
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have been able to have been an author and you think of what time period was that because i
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as far as i know in the u.s like well we've at least in the 1600s there was girls getting who's
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tia sulliot who's tia sulliot is that is that the author that's actually a woman but pretended to be
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a man because she couldn't get her books published as a woman so there was a very long-standing history that
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women could not publish books so like look i'm not like 17 i know at least 17 1800s like women were
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published um like they could write they were in like the wall street journal like the whatever the
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there's a couple publications that were still around no no look look look here let me like saying
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this like like this is we can we can we can take this even further to the racism argument it's like
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okay there's there's nobody wants slavery it's horrible and it's like the most absurdly horrible thing
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that's ever happened and it's happened to you know in different societies and then you go to like
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all the way to the other side and affirmative action where it's like well i don't really want
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that either even though it's supposedly like anti-discriminatory becomes discrimination right
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so feminism like at its core it didn't start out with nefarious intent completely disagree if you go
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back to so for example the 1848 uh seneca falls convention you'll find that actually right from the
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get-go feminism is always very very misandric very very awful just a very small cabal of
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today on the titanic 70 of women survived 80 uh 25 of men survived yeah and the feminists were
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like if a woman built the ship we would have did it better wait they don't care feminism is never
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it's a big misconception because a lot of people think feminism was once good but actually this is
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a lie and if you look at historically oh no i agree with you that i don't know i agree with you
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that ideologically was it was misandric it was a karl marx kind of a situation i know 100 it started
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no 100 but but here's can i ask you a question i mean and i can't believe i'm taking the side by
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the way but it's like would you be okay if if women were not allowed to go past the third grade
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education in the society in which you live well the thing is yes look what i'm telling you college
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makes you dumber i'm not drawing the line of college we can get there i'm sorry i'm starting
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third grade the thing is is that the misconception here is that the main inequalities in society were
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actually more to do with class rather than gender because for example a wealthy woman would have had
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much more social privilege than a poor man and women actually could be educated for example during
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medieval england a lot of women worked in nursing they worked in teaching so this idea that somehow women
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couldn't be educated i mean if you just look at the west for example this isn't true actually
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education was more reserved for the upper classes and it's always been that way even things like
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property ownership as well it's not really the feminists has made it as a men versus women thing
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but it was never the case it was more about class so i mean i think you're referring to because i know
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you're referring to specifically to like religious countries i'm not going to comment on that but
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right now but if we just look at say the west or england education opportunities have always been
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there but they've been referred they've been on what wrong word reserved for the wealthier classes
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and the feminist lie effectively is that oh this was about men oppressing women but it wasn't it was
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more about the upper classes were the ones who held more of the privilege in society so you know and
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women women you know they did things like sewing needlework music things like nursing a lot of women
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worked as governesses so it is a big misconception that women couldn't work or that women couldn't have
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careers or that women weren't educated a lot of these are very big misconceptions no but what they
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do is they rewrote the history you probably know yes they rewrote they went back all the marxists
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went back and basically said we want to look at history from the viewpoint of the oppressed
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yeah so they literally went back in the history books and rewrote the history yes they did from the
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vantage point of an oppressed woman even though the women of the writings at the time not oppressed well
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they were really rich like how did feminism like overtake as a movement it was female-led oh yeah
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it's like how did they have the voice if they had no voice or education it's very erotic these were
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the most privileged women in society if you look at especially the old school first wave feminist people
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like the biggest stanton yeah isn't that the one that like divorced her husband took all his money
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it was terrible all of them they were always right from the get-go it was a very mean spirited very
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antagonistic movement and if the problem is is that a lot of people don't understand this it's
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like it's nobody's fault it's the fact but for example people will say oh look at the suffragettes
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but they put all the women's studies professors in the schools yes and then they re they all they
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even said this themselves they're gonna rewrite our history and then teach it in the schools
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to brainwash the kids and get rid of religion they did the same thing in the church so they went
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into the christian churches the catholic churches why do you think there's all those gay priests
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right it was because they literally sent 11 000 priests into the church because they realized
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that people listen to the church and yeah it's it's rabbit hole when you get into it but the crazy
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thing is they literally said we want to infiltrate these institutions because we know people listen to
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them i mean a lot of these priests rules are pedophile a hundred no no they are no i'm serious but they
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sent 11 000 they funded the seminaries to again to reteach education from a more like the christian
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doctrine from a more liberal point of view yeah it's already liberals marxist but well yeah yeah
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yeah marxist i think american liberalism it's a shame isn't it because actually classical english
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liberalism is completely anti-marxist it's a really terrible thing how like in america like your version
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of liberalism is what we would call like yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's not your fault as well like
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that's another like you know language barrier or whatever