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- July 18, 2023
These Modern Women CONFIRMS the TOXICITY of Feminism
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9 minutes
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Word Count
1,996
Sentence Count
2
Misogynist Sentences
35
Hate Speech Sentences
10
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is feminism topic or is feminism toxic so question for the panel do you think that
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feminism is toxic yes or no and tell me why starting here and then go around yes feminism
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is absolutely toxic it's completely terrible for society it's destroying men it's destroying women
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i think it's probably one of the worst things to happen to male and female relationships so yeah
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absolutely agree i don't know i think i'm 50 50 i think it's good for us females to
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i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't want to say something and then
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people don't agree with me but it's okay it's okay we allow all disagreements on the shelf so
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it's okay there are no wrong answers um i would just say it's 50 50 okay but if 64 if you had to pick
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one side um yeah okay yeah you do think it's toxic yeah it's very toxic okay what do you think yeah
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i think it's toxic i think it breaks down the family units and i also think it impacts society
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in a negative way as a as a man identifying as a woman to compete in women's sports i think it's
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great uh it has really increased my athletic performance relative to my competition
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and i'm looking forward to being called stunning and brave um but in all seriousness i mean
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any ideology probably starts out at some point with some positive attributes that are necessary for
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for society right um but like every ideology eventually becomes weaponized and i think right
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now we're living in a world where you ladies are acknowledging it as well which is very strange
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for a woman to say that like oh you know feminism stocks because you're a woman you should be like
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yay feminism right so i think we're starting to come around as a society and realizing that there's a
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there's a certain ideological weaponization where feminism went from empowering women to just
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shitting on men and that's uh that's a bad line okay so when do you think feminism is ever empowering
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for women that's a great question do you want to go like kind of historical argument or where are we
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going for this yeah yeah when uh okay so so there's there's like kind of an interesting
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there's obviously this is such a granular argument like there's so many flavors to this it's not like an
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out right you know you know and i don't want to be like sounding like oh i'm not going to take a
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position like i have a position right like for example um my mom is a computer scientist as an
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example right like she's very intelligent she went all the way through the school got her master's and
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phd whatever she got um and so she she performed she just retired like this month but she performed at
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a very high level a very male-dominated industry and frankly she's not a very feminine woman so like the
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opportunity for her to go all the way in her education which was in math and computer science and then
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implement that for her career was very beneficial for her like she would not fit the mold of a
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woman that is in a you know let's say more controlled society where that might have not
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been an option right because she's not a good house she was a terrible wife but then what does
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that have to do with feminism what does her success have to do with them well so so you're i understand
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what you're saying so when you go back to like for example one of the stand countries right now where
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maybe 15 20 years ago women were not allowed to get an education above let's say the fourth or fifth
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grade level and you might say fine but i would say okay at that point you need it to push it a little bit
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further right like if you have to tell girls you're a writer right we had a conversation before
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we started you're smart like you know things you quoted aldous huxley i'm like ah she reads
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yeah but what's that got to do with feminism when you put that down to somebody's individual merits
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right personal well the the original the original premise behind feminism now we're going back a couple
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hundred years here was that women were were allowed to substantially be educated as much as men
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because certain religions let's say forbade women from getting a higher level education like they
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were not even allowed to read under most sort of the archaic religions right so there was a time
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there was a time where and that was you know a while ago there was a time where you would not
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have been able to have been an author and you think of what time period was that because i
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as far as i know in the u.s like well we've at least in the 1600s there was girls getting who's
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tia sulliot who's tia sulliot is that is that the author that's actually a woman but pretended to be
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a man because she couldn't get her books published as a woman so there was a very long-standing history that
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women could not publish books so like look i'm not like 17 i know at least 17 1800s like women were
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published um like they could write they were in like the wall street journal like the whatever the
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there's a couple publications that were still around no no look look look here let me like saying
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this like like this is we can we can we can take this even further to the racism argument it's like
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okay there's there's nobody wants slavery it's horrible and it's like the most absurdly horrible thing
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that's ever happened and it's happened to you know in different societies and then you go to like
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all the way to the other side and affirmative action where it's like well i don't really want
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that either even though it's supposedly like anti-discriminatory becomes discrimination right
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so feminism like at its core it didn't start out with nefarious intent completely disagree if you go
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back to so for example the 1848 uh seneca falls convention you'll find that actually right from the
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get-go feminism is always very very misandric very very awful just a very small cabal of
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today on the titanic 70 of women survived 80 uh 25 of men survived yeah and the feminists were
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like if a woman built the ship we would have did it better wait they don't care feminism is never
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it's a big misconception because a lot of people think feminism was once good but actually this is
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a lie and if you look at historically oh no i agree with you that i don't know i agree with you
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that ideologically was it was misandric it was a karl marx kind of a situation i know 100 it started
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no 100 but but here's can i ask you a question i mean and i can't believe i'm taking the side by
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the way but it's like would you be okay if if women were not allowed to go past the third grade
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education in the society in which you live well the thing is yes look what i'm telling you college
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makes you dumber i'm not drawing the line of college we can get there i'm sorry i'm starting
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third grade the thing is is that the misconception here is that the main inequalities in society were
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actually more to do with class rather than gender because for example a wealthy woman would have had
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much more social privilege than a poor man and women actually could be educated for example during
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medieval england a lot of women worked in nursing they worked in teaching so this idea that somehow women
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couldn't be educated i mean if you just look at the west for example this isn't true actually
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education was more reserved for the upper classes and it's always been that way even things like
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property ownership as well it's not really the feminists has made it as a men versus women thing
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but it was never the case it was more about class so i mean i think you're referring to because i know
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you're referring to specifically to like religious countries i'm not going to comment on that but
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right now but if we just look at say the west or england education opportunities have always been
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there but they've been referred they've been on what wrong word reserved for the wealthier classes
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and the feminist lie effectively is that oh this was about men oppressing women but it wasn't it was
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more about the upper classes were the ones who held more of the privilege in society so you know and
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women women you know they did things like sewing needlework music things like nursing a lot of women
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worked as governesses so it is a big misconception that women couldn't work or that women couldn't have
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careers or that women weren't educated a lot of these are very big misconceptions no but what they
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do is they rewrote the history you probably know yes they rewrote they went back all the marxists
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went back and basically said we want to look at history from the viewpoint of the oppressed
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yeah so they literally went back in the history books and rewrote the history yes they did from the
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vantage point of an oppressed woman even though the women of the writings at the time not oppressed well
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they were really rich like how did feminism like overtake as a movement it was female-led oh yeah
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it's like how did they have the voice if they had no voice or education it's very erotic these were
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the most privileged women in society if you look at especially the old school first wave feminist people
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like the biggest stanton yeah isn't that the one that like divorced her husband took all his money
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it was terrible all of them they were always right from the get-go it was a very mean spirited very
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antagonistic movement and if the problem is is that a lot of people don't understand this it's
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like it's nobody's fault it's the fact but for example people will say oh look at the suffragettes
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but they put all the women's studies professors in the schools yes and then they re they all they
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even said this themselves they're gonna rewrite our history and then teach it in the schools
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to brainwash the kids and get rid of religion they did the same thing in the church so they went
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into the christian churches the catholic churches why do you think there's all those gay priests
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right it was because they literally sent 11 000 priests into the church because they realized
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that people listen to the church and yeah it's it's rabbit hole when you get into it but the crazy
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thing is they literally said we want to infiltrate these institutions because we know people listen to
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them i mean a lot of these priests rules are pedophile a hundred no no they are no i'm serious but they
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sent 11 000 they funded the seminaries to again to reteach education from a more like the christian
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doctrine from a more liberal point of view yeah it's already liberals marxist but well yeah yeah
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yeah marxist i think american liberalism it's a shame isn't it because actually classical english
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liberalism is completely anti-marxist it's a really terrible thing how like in america like your version
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of liberalism is what we would call like yeah yeah yeah yeah but it's not your fault as well like
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that's another like you know language barrier or whatever
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