These Modern Women GOT HUMBLED With FACTS
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Summary
In this episode, we talk about beauty in the eye of the beholder, body positivity and fat shaming. We also discuss the importance of self-awareness and what we're missing in our society, and why we need to stop being so self-obsessed.
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do you believe that beauty is in the eye of the a holder the eye of the beholder
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i guess so because someone in east asia might not find um someone in the west attractive
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um so it really depends on that person like what they grew up with like what they grew up was um
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what they their society grew up with that's attractive would affect how they would perceive
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the person so there's like pictures of people that you might not find attractive in like medieval
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times but back then people would like kill themselves or done crazy things just to be with
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this person but like now we're looking like oh i don't see the attraction there so i definitely
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feel like it's definitely a subjective experience what do you think yeah no i definitely feel that
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way as well and i also think um your taste changes as you get older what you might find attractive and
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what you're drawn to initially initially when you're younger will ultimately change as you get older
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um you might go for like the the obvious pick but then as you get older you might start thinking
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certain different things are more beautiful do you think that's for men or for women
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oh because because that sounds like a woman's point of view not necessarily a man's like yeah i think when
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we get older we're like well we don't necessarily need these things but men i it seems like they just
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like hot likes me yeah they're more uh visually motivated than us i feel like they're more primal
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than like women like i don't know she hot in there yeah but it's kind of cute because like some women
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like oh like i want my man to have a nice job to be so intelligent but i go like oh i think you're
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cute and that's kind of enough for some what do you think is beauty in the eye of the beholder
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um yes in the term in in the um when we're thinking about character so i think personally
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for me i i write myself a four physically really what yeah i'm definitely not four
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but but i genuinely like it doesn't bother me i'm just i'm very objective about it i i rate myself a
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four however i honestly believe what we're missing today is like uh everybody's saying that what it
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appears to be everybody's saying oh i'm a 10 i'm a 10 but they misconstrued it in terms of their
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personality everything as a package they're a 10 so there is no room for improvement and um i mean i'm
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thinking about like at what point does humility come in uh you know it seems like non-existent therefore
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they won't really do any you know introspection and are they self-aware and all that stuff so i'm
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just saying just saying you're a 10 it's just it's problematic but from what i'm saying is that um
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so i think i'm a four but with my personality and everything and my character all these very
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important things they kind of make the package they make the person and these are the ways that
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people fall in love um you know with somebody's character so i think that's what they're fundamentally
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missing when they just say they're a 10 okay so you're a 10 but what about your personality i'm
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a 10 there as well i'm just perfect all around which just comes across as arrogance to me
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what do you guys think of the body positivity movement
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in terms of what do you think it's good for society
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no it isn't what why well uh who who's whose body are we saying that it's that that they're fine
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like what what what change has have we seen i don't know i'm just i just wanted to know how
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you think uh well for example like i think about a while ago i saw uh a clearly obese woman uh on the
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cover of a magazine i can't remember what magazine it was but then they said very clearly this is healthy
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and i'm just like are they trying to manipulate me into thinking that that's healthy and she was in
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sportswear but clearly she's not like clearly you ain't going to the gym i know right and she's been
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on the treadmill in a mitt like come on but but what i find generally heartbreaking is that okay yes i'm
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i'm physically slim right so people are going to be like oh you're just like fat shaming but i
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genuinely have concerns for her so when i see people who are like oh yeah girl you're a 10 sorry i can't
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speak like that i'm terrible but yeah yeah you know yes queen and i'm like i'm it breaks my
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heart i'm just like you don't care about her you're not telling her you're not encouraging her to
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change you know there's a risk of diabetes are they saying um diabetes is a 10 are they saying
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asthma is a 10 i'm saying depression is a 10. uh so yeah you can say yeah you're a 10 but no one's
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there when she's crying all alone and she has all these health problems what happens to all that
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energy then and it is really heartbreaking as soon and and i've seen plenty of people who have been
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obese and they've uh you know they've made tick tocks and stuff and they say um on the tick tock uh
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i've done this to myself or i'm going to take responsibility and then you see their progression
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and they're so much happier and they're not in that delusion and somebody who genuinely cares about
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you will tell you the ugly truth but they are telling you they're not telling you a beautiful lie
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and that's what you want from a friend and that's what we should have in society if you have
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everybody's like oh yeah you're fine yeah you're fine yeah you're fine um it's actually really
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unfair and i'm just thinking like in a way i think it's really sinister because if i was fat and my
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friend told me you're fine i'm like she doesn't give a shit about me she really doesn't she would have
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told me this is you're actually ill you're not well and the moment i get on that treadmill and she's
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there by my side you know championing me on i'm like well that is a friend so the moment i see people
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are like encouraging very unhealthy behavior uh it really does genuinely break my heart and i i just
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like my genetics or whatever is you know people say oh you're slim you can afford to say that no i
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genuinely care about people and i encourage them and when i see people obviously are yeah it really
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questions um it makes me question their motives like you have an agenda why are you you know encouraging
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clearly unhealthy behavior and is that why you don't agree you don't think the body positivity
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movement is positive no i i well it's false body positivity because it's saying you're fine the way
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you are and there is no you know improve there is no uh they're not we're not championing improvement
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is what i'm saying okay i think that's a good point that you made um but i would like to like draw
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upon like the opposite side of that like obviously with body positivity it's not just about
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um like weight it's about like skin texture skin color yeah but that's like one of the biggest
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things i've seen you you've seen more between like weight yeah i don't i don't really see skin
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texture skin color that kind of thing or like people that don't shave people are hairier yeah i mean
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i don't want to see that like why are they putting that i miss the days when models would make me feel
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bad about myself and i would put their picture on the treadmill and i'd start running yeah i didn't
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bring them back i think you've got to find a balance because if you go to the other end of the spectrum
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and someone's really underweight and it's being advertised it's it's not gonna that's not so great
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i think you are you are ultimately ultimately you are fine the way you are because i don't think no one
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can tell you anything obviously if you're having these health issues then definitely needs to be
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addressed but um yeah to be honest with you so you think you're fine the way you are at 300 pounds
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not necessarily you're not i do think you should you should definitely do something about that
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but i think it's about being realistic if these types of things are being shown on media then i think
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it should be shown in a way to show that listen whether it's bad or good uh there are people like
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this and they're still part of society etc etc it doesn't it doesn't un it doesn't deem you uh
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a certain way in a negative way if that makes sense don't you think it normalizes it
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because shouldn't obesity not be normal shouldn't it be abnormal isn't that what we should want i think
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obesity shouldn't be the norm but i do feel like there are people that are just going to be bigger
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there's people that are going to be smaller regardless like if we put everyone on the same
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diet people will still be different sizes but not like morbidly i did say like not obese i said
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like people are going to be different sizes i think um it'd be interesting if body positivity went in the
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in the way in the direction that we're like okay they're going to be people that are different sizes
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and they're still a part of society they still should be respected we still need to treat them like
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humans i think that's kind of what the direction it should have gone in instead of like
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normalizing um being morbidly obese i think that's what your point but i but i think people will say
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when you say all shapes and sizes they will put in morbidly obese like that's fine unless you
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explicitly say accept morbidly obese but then you'll be you know shamed for fat shaming as many of you
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know i was just banned on tick tock and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform if you
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