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- April 07, 2023
These Modern Women Thought On LIZZO
Episode Stats
Length
11 minutes
Words per Minute
199.13179
Word Count
2,263
Sentence Count
174
Misogynist Sentences
13
Hate Speech Sentences
10
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Like genetically, like you're going to be shorter.
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I might be taller.
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Someone might be I don't I don't want to say that use the term big boned because it doesn't really make sense.
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But some people are going to be broader and have wider shoulders.
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Like this is like the reason why a lot of people pursue different sports.
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You just built different, you know, regardless of diet and how you train, you can't really change your genetics by that much.
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Some people achieve certain muscle formations that certain people won't have.
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You know, I want to show you guys something that I saw on Twitter today.
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I'm going to blessing and this is I'm going to send it to you.
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You may send it on Instagram.
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Yeah, because it's an extra one.
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I don't think it's like normal to the extent here.
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Let me.
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I saw a picture on Twitter today that was like a beach from the 70 or like it was before the 70s, maybe 60s, 50s.
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And obesity really wasn't normal.
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Then if you go to a third world country, it's not normal.
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Even even like there weren't even really overweight people.
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And so I feel like.
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When you put them on the cover of magazines, it's like you're saying, fine, like, find me attractive.
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You must find me attractive.
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And when you're like, not really like I wouldn't want to look like that ever at all.
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Not even a little bit.
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They say your body shaming, but it's just like honest.
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Do you know what I have more issue with?
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I don't really have an issue with putting someone that's large on in front of a magazine.
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I have more of an issue with like the magazine's intentions, because a lot of these big magazines
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have promoted like hyper skinny or underweight women for like the past 10 years or past decades
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before.
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To put a larger woman in front of the magazine all of a sudden is like, yeah, let's just forget
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all the past women we promoted before.
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And this is a new standard of beauty.
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I don't really like that kind of narrative where like, okay, we're just going to switch
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up now.
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And this is what we support when that's really not what they're about.
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What do you what do you mean?
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Because like let's say you use like like Marilyn Monroe, she wasn't underweight like a pinnacle
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of beauty.
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Yeah.
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But she's like one woman.
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Yeah.
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I think that's the exception, not the rule when it comes to everybody had that hourglass
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figure.
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That's why it's so iconic.
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Yeah.
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I feel like that was like because of the fashion at the time, if you look at the kind of the
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dresses that they wear, it's very like skirts are very high waisted and it's very tight
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at this point.
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It's more to the fashion and emulating this type of style.
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Also the body type followed.
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If you look more towards the eighties, they're more sporty where some women are a bit more
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like fitter, more athletic looking.
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I think we kind of the bodies follow the fashion.
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So like now you can see like low waisted clothing come into fashion.
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Women are going to want to be a bit more skinner, skinnier or thinner.
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You see Kim Kardashian taking her implants out to follow that kind of fashion trend that's
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going to come in.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Like Y2K, you might have heard of it.
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Like a lot of that kind of fashion is coming back.
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So a lot of people are going to try and be skinnier to match that fashion.
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I think like fashion and the way people want to dress and look like kind of follow each
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other.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But it's silly because why change your body for a micro trend?
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Just be healthy, you know, but it's how it's how it goes.
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I just think hourglass has always been like Marilyn, like even if you look at Audrey Hepburn
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there's enough, like I think it's not, I think it's a hip to waist ratio.
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Yeah.
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You can be very thin and still have an hourglass figure because you've got really wide hips
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and a small like rib cage.
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Yeah.
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But you're not going to be like Marilyn Monroe, Marilyn Monroe was, uh, no, I, I agree with
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you.
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I think she wasn't very thin, but she had that shape.
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Yeah.
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Like, I think there's a difference between like, you know, saying like we have different
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body types, but either way, like no, no one's turning down Jennifer Aniston and she's built
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more like square.
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And she was a pinnacle of beauty in the early two thousands.
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She's not, she doesn't have that hourglass, you know, shape, but you know, in the same
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era, like Kim Kardashian is also beautiful.
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Like, I think it's just like thin, thinner.
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Oh, this is the picture from like the, like, look at it.
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There's not really obesity back then.
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Hmm.
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Everyone's balling.
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What is this in America?
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Mm hmm.
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Is there a picture of, are you going to do a contrast?
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Is there more than one?
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I thought there was like three.
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Oh, it would have been good to have a contrast, but everybody kind of looks the same.
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Yeah.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Like everyone was thin for the most part.
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So it's almost like we're normalizing something that shouldn't be normal and saying, find
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me a try.
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Like that's another issue is that people that are overweight feel like they can't be made
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fun of just like everyone else.
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Oh, something crazy happened to me the other day.
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So I was in like a market in Greenwich and I wanted to buy some jeans and I was like, there's
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like a way of trying them on, like using your neck to see if it fits your waist.
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It's like a cool hack.
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You go around your neck and if it fits, then if it's you and I ended up buying these jeans
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and like the fit and the woman's like, oh, they look great on you.
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I was like, oh, perfect.
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I'm going to buy them.
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And I'm walking away and the woman shouts, I hate skinny people.
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So imagine like I was just thinking, yeah, yeah, like in a joke way, but like, I just
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thought to myself, like, no one really makes the reverse of that joke.
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I know it's like cliche to say, I hate fat people, people be like, yeah, no one batted
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an eyelid.
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Yeah.
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But I feel like we've really normalised, I don't know, like these back like side comments
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towards women that are a lot thinner.
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And I feel like we can't really talk about people that are obese the same way as we used
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to.
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The transparency is gone.
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I feel.
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Everything's sugar coated now anyways.
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Yeah.
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I feel like when someone tells you, oh, like you've lost weight, like it still has that
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same.
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I just feel like it's the same way as saying, oh, like you're fat now.
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I'd be like, oh, I'd feel a bit insecure.
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Like, yeah.
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No, my parents don't really hold back.
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I'm not going to lie.
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Me either.
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I'm like, I feel like it was good for me, though.
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Like, I think I would have been like, I've always been the type to like struggle.
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Like, I've had to work really hard because I eat really bad.
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Like, I'm an athlete.
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So it kind of evens out.
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But like, like, honestly, my mom, when I was younger, she would, she would fat shame me
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a little bit.
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She'd be like, oh, you got your, but honestly, like it hurt at the time, but I'm so glad she
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did.
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I got on the treadmill.
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I think there's definitely something that is important of like a parent being like honest
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with their son or daughter, especially if they get into like a place that's unhealthy.
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I think it's a shame because a lot of children are obese, like obese in childhood and never
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really lose, will stay obese for the rest of their life.
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And then they have problems with diabetes.
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They die earlier.
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And I feel like if that was just addressed, like when they were young, if that honestly,
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like, like your mother, like maybe not fat shaming, but just, you know, I'm going to
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help you with your health.
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If that conversation was had, I think it would really improve like health in general.
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I feel like fat shaming was the best way to do it.
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You look fat.
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If it comes from a place of love, then why not?
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If it's someone, you know, you may not know, then it's just like, sorry, how dare you?
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But if it's someone like, yeah, yeah, of course, like why, why not?
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It's the truth.
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It's not like, cause being fat, I mean, it's not, it doesn't have to be negative, like unless
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you're obese and you have actual health problems, ultimately, perhaps you need to change something
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in your life.
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If you feel like you're gaining too much weight, but if someone's telling you all like, listen,
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I feel like, um, you've put on a bit too much or it's just like, oh yeah, no, I know.
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I know.
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I've, I've realized as well.
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It's nothing, it's nothing, um, too personal.
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You shouldn't feel so attacked.
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay.
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Blessing.
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Do the second clip.
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The, I'm a 10 one.
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Yeah.
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That one.
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Girls are objective or do you think they think they're hotter than they are or do they
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underrate themselves?
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Go around.
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Personally, I think it depends on the person because growing up, I'm obviously not skinny.
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Hi everyone.
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I'm not skinny.
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So growing up, I was never the beauty standard for anyone.
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So like all my friends were getting chatted up by people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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And I was just the other one, you know?
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So like, I never really thought of myself as an attractive person.
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Like I would never call myself anything more than a thought, but now, like, I don't really
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care about what anyone thinks about me.
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Like I've grown into myself and I've, I've, I'm comfortable with who I am now that like,
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even if you guys call me delusion or whatever, I think I'm maybe not a 10, let's not go that
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far, but like definitely an eight per.
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So like, whether you guys think I am or not, eh, that's got nothing to do with her.
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But like, yeah.
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What is it that took you from a four to an eight?
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If nothing's changed, what is it that takes you from a four to an eight?
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Loving myself and looking in the mirror and not being disgusted at what I see.
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I understand that.
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Yeah.
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But that doesn't, you're, you're not necessarily being objective about how other people view
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you, right?
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Like, cause isn't that what a rating really is?
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Like what you think the vast majority of people, like if I rated myself one to 10, I give myself
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a five.
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People looking and I just think it's based on my results.
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I think if I was an eight, nine or 10, I would have had modeling contracts because people in
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the top 20% of beauty, they get, they get modeling contracts.
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But what is beauty?
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So what is beauty?
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I mean, there's a lot of things like if you, I mean, you can, you can go online and have
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people rate your pictures and they, they rank you one to 10.
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That's wild and, and so you can get, you can get a lot of data that says how attractive
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you are in society and men will wait, you women will rate you like every day.
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How we look is like how we represent ourselves.
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It's not fun, but it's just like being honest.
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So, um, and it's also like, you can take a dating apps to like, you know, everyone's Tinder
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bumble.
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Like they have a ranking for you behind the scenes.
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Yeah.
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Damn.
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Yeah.
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Well, so, um, I don't understand.
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When girls say like, I'm an eight because, or sometimes I hear girls say time, cause I
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hear this a lot where they're say like, because I love myself and I'm like confident now, but
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don't you think attractiveness is based on results?
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They may be, but I don't care about those results to be honest.
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But do you think then you're not being objective about your, how attractive you are or how attractive
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anyone else might be?
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Um, I guess not, but yeah, that stuff's not really important to me.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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But I think when, when someone, when someone rates somebody, why, why does that have anything
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to do with them?
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Like if you rate me, if someone rated like somebody a three and it's just like, oh, okay.
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That's, that's your opinion.
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Like it's not.
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Okay.
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So my first question is based on this clip, do you think women are honest with each other?
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No.
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No.
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No.
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No.
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What do you, what do you think Eddie?
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100% no.
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No way.
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As many of you know, I was just banned on Tik Tok and we are demonetized on a daily basis
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