JustPearlyThings - April 07, 2023


These Modern Women Thought On LIZZO


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11 minutes

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2,263

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174

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Misogyny

13

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In this episode, we discuss the new standard of thinness in the media and society. We talk about the difference between an hour glass figure and a cupcake cup. We also discuss the recent trend of hyper-skinny women being featured on the cover of magazines.

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00:00:00.000 Like genetically, like you're going to be shorter.
00:00:02.320 I might be taller.
00:00:03.480 Someone might be I don't I don't want to say that use the term big boned because it doesn't really make sense.
00:00:07.600 But some people are going to be broader and have wider shoulders.
00:00:10.600 Like this is like the reason why a lot of people pursue different sports.
00:00:13.680 You just built different, you know, regardless of diet and how you train, you can't really change your genetics by that much.
00:00:20.840 Some people achieve certain muscle formations that certain people won't have.
00:00:24.880 You know, I want to show you guys something that I saw on Twitter today.
00:00:29.880 I'm going to blessing and this is I'm going to send it to you.
00:00:33.000 You may send it on Instagram.
00:00:35.560 Yeah, because it's an extra one.
00:00:37.600 I don't think it's like normal to the extent here.
00:00:41.920 Let me.
00:00:47.160 I saw a picture on Twitter today that was like a beach from the 70 or like it was before the 70s, maybe 60s, 50s.
00:00:54.560 And obesity really wasn't normal.
00:00:56.240 Then if you go to a third world country, it's not normal.
00:00:59.800 Even even like there weren't even really overweight people.
00:01:03.920 And so I feel like.
00:01:06.320 When you put them on the cover of magazines, it's like you're saying, fine, like, find me attractive.
00:01:11.200 You must find me attractive.
00:01:13.080 And when you're like, not really like I wouldn't want to look like that ever at all.
00:01:19.360 Not even a little bit.
00:01:21.160 They say your body shaming, but it's just like honest.
00:01:24.040 Do you know what I have more issue with?
00:01:25.800 I don't really have an issue with putting someone that's large on in front of a magazine.
00:01:29.680 I have more of an issue with like the magazine's intentions, because a lot of these big magazines
00:01:34.360 have promoted like hyper skinny or underweight women for like the past 10 years or past decades 1.00
00:01:39.560 before.
00:01:40.560 To put a larger woman in front of the magazine all of a sudden is like, yeah, let's just forget 1.00
00:01:45.920 all the past women we promoted before.
00:01:47.880 And this is a new standard of beauty.
00:01:49.240 I don't really like that kind of narrative where like, okay, we're just going to switch
00:01:52.480 up now.
00:01:53.480 And this is what we support when that's really not what they're about.
00:01:57.280 What do you what do you mean?
00:01:58.280 Because like let's say you use like like Marilyn Monroe, she wasn't underweight like a pinnacle 1.00
00:02:04.760 of beauty.
00:02:05.760 Yeah.
00:02:06.760 But she's like one woman. 0.72
00:02:07.760 Yeah.
00:02:08.760 I think that's the exception, not the rule when it comes to everybody had that hourglass
00:02:11.560 figure.
00:02:12.560 That's why it's so iconic.
00:02:13.560 Yeah.
00:02:14.560 I feel like that was like because of the fashion at the time, if you look at the kind of the
00:02:17.320 dresses that they wear, it's very like skirts are very high waisted and it's very tight
00:02:21.340 at this point.
00:02:22.340 It's more to the fashion and emulating this type of style.
00:02:25.780 Also the body type followed.
00:02:27.200 If you look more towards the eighties, they're more sporty where some women are a bit more 0.98
00:02:30.480 like fitter, more athletic looking.
00:02:33.060 I think we kind of the bodies follow the fashion.
00:02:35.480 So like now you can see like low waisted clothing come into fashion.
00:02:38.660 Women are going to want to be a bit more skinner, skinnier or thinner. 1.00
00:02:41.100 You see Kim Kardashian taking her implants out to follow that kind of fashion trend that's 0.99
00:02:44.500 going to come in.
00:02:45.500 Wow.
00:02:46.500 Okay.
00:02:47.500 Yeah.
00:02:48.500 Like Y2K, you might have heard of it. 0.96
00:02:49.580 Like a lot of that kind of fashion is coming back.
00:02:51.580 So a lot of people are going to try and be skinnier to match that fashion.
00:02:54.640 I think like fashion and the way people want to dress and look like kind of follow each
00:02:58.020 other.
00:02:59.020 Yeah.
00:03:00.020 Yeah.
00:03:01.020 But it's silly because why change your body for a micro trend?
00:03:05.080 Just be healthy, you know, but it's how it's how it goes.
00:03:08.020 I just think hourglass has always been like Marilyn, like even if you look at Audrey Hepburn
00:03:13.460 there's enough, like I think it's not, I think it's a hip to waist ratio.
00:03:18.020 Yeah.
00:03:19.020 You can be very thin and still have an hourglass figure because you've got really wide hips
00:03:21.620 and a small like rib cage.
00:03:23.080 Yeah.
00:03:24.080 But you're not going to be like Marilyn Monroe, Marilyn Monroe was, uh, no, I, I agree with
00:03:28.460 you.
00:03:29.460 I think she wasn't very thin, but she had that shape. 1.00
00:03:30.460 Yeah.
00:03:31.460 Like, I think there's a difference between like, you know, saying like we have different
00:03:36.840 body types, but either way, like no, no one's turning down Jennifer Aniston and she's built 1.00
00:03:41.960 more like square.
00:03:43.460 And she was a pinnacle of beauty in the early two thousands.
00:03:46.320 She's not, she doesn't have that hourglass, you know, shape, but you know, in the same 0.99
00:03:51.240 era, like Kim Kardashian is also beautiful.
00:03:53.460 Like, I think it's just like thin, thinner.
00:03:56.460 Oh, this is the picture from like the, like, look at it.
00:04:00.020 There's not really obesity back then.
00:04:01.900 Hmm.
00:04:02.900 Everyone's balling.
00:04:03.900 What is this in America?
00:04:04.900 Mm hmm.
00:04:05.900 Is there a picture of, are you going to do a contrast?
00:04:07.900 Is there more than one?
00:04:08.900 I thought there was like three.
00:04:11.460 Oh, it would have been good to have a contrast, but everybody kind of looks the same.
00:04:15.460 Yeah.
00:04:16.460 That's what I'm saying.
00:04:17.460 Like everyone was thin for the most part.
00:04:21.680 So it's almost like we're normalizing something that shouldn't be normal and saying, find
00:04:26.600 me a try.
00:04:27.600 Like that's another issue is that people that are overweight feel like they can't be made
00:04:31.580 fun of just like everyone else.
00:04:33.700 Oh, something crazy happened to me the other day.
00:04:35.900 So I was in like a market in Greenwich and I wanted to buy some jeans and I was like, there's
00:04:40.460 like a way of trying them on, like using your neck to see if it fits your waist.
00:04:43.640 It's like a cool hack.
00:04:44.640 You go around your neck and if it fits, then if it's you and I ended up buying these jeans
00:04:49.080 and like the fit and the woman's like, oh, they look great on you.
00:04:51.340 I was like, oh, perfect.
00:04:52.200 I'm going to buy them.
00:04:53.200 And I'm walking away and the woman shouts, I hate skinny people. 1.00
00:04:57.780 So imagine like I was just thinking, yeah, yeah, like in a joke way, but like, I just
00:05:02.020 thought to myself, like, no one really makes the reverse of that joke.
00:05:04.140 I know it's like cliche to say, I hate fat people, people be like, yeah, no one batted
00:05:09.200 an eyelid.
00:05:10.200 Yeah.
00:05:11.200 But I feel like we've really normalised, I don't know, like these back like side comments
00:05:16.040 towards women that are a lot thinner. 0.70
00:05:17.800 And I feel like we can't really talk about people that are obese the same way as we used
00:05:22.260 to.
00:05:23.260 The transparency is gone.
00:05:24.260 I feel.
00:05:25.260 Everything's sugar coated now anyways.
00:05:27.640 Yeah.
00:05:28.640 I feel like when someone tells you, oh, like you've lost weight, like it still has that
00:05:34.520 same.
00:05:35.520 I just feel like it's the same way as saying, oh, like you're fat now.
00:05:40.700 I'd be like, oh, I'd feel a bit insecure.
00:05:43.480 Like, yeah.
00:05:44.480 No, my parents don't really hold back.
00:05:45.880 I'm not going to lie.
00:05:46.480 Me either.
00:05:47.480 I'm like, I feel like it was good for me, though.
00:05:51.320 Like, I think I would have been like, I've always been the type to like struggle.
00:05:55.160 Like, I've had to work really hard because I eat really bad.
00:05:58.160 Like, I'm an athlete.
00:05:59.160 So it kind of evens out.
00:06:00.160 But like, like, honestly, my mom, when I was younger, she would, she would fat shame me
00:06:05.160 a little bit.
00:06:06.160 She'd be like, oh, you got your, but honestly, like it hurt at the time, but I'm so glad she
00:06:10.160 did.
00:06:11.160 I got on the treadmill.
00:06:12.160 I think there's definitely something that is important of like a parent being like honest
00:06:17.320 with their son or daughter, especially if they get into like a place that's unhealthy.
00:06:21.240 I think it's a shame because a lot of children are obese, like obese in childhood and never
00:06:26.460 really lose, will stay obese for the rest of their life.
00:06:29.120 And then they have problems with diabetes.
00:06:30.860 They die earlier.
00:06:32.260 And I feel like if that was just addressed, like when they were young, if that honestly,
00:06:35.780 like, like your mother, like maybe not fat shaming, but just, you know, I'm going to
00:06:39.000 help you with your health.
00:06:40.400 If that conversation was had, I think it would really improve like health in general.
00:06:44.040 I feel like fat shaming was the best way to do it. 1.00
00:06:46.620 You look fat.
00:06:47.620 If it comes from a place of love, then why not?
00:06:50.640 If it's someone, you know, you may not know, then it's just like, sorry, how dare you?
00:06:54.680 But if it's someone like, yeah, yeah, of course, like why, why not?
00:06:58.440 It's the truth.
00:06:59.440 It's not like, cause being fat, I mean, it's not, it doesn't have to be negative, like unless
00:07:06.160 you're obese and you have actual health problems, ultimately, perhaps you need to change something
00:07:11.300 in your life.
00:07:11.800 If you feel like you're gaining too much weight, but if someone's telling you all like, listen,
00:07:16.040 I feel like, um, you've put on a bit too much or it's just like, oh yeah, no, I know.
00:07:21.800 I know.
00:07:22.800 I've, I've realized as well.
00:07:23.800 It's nothing, it's nothing, um, too personal.
00:07:27.940 You shouldn't feel so attacked.
00:07:29.440 Mm-hmm.
00:07:30.440 Okay.
00:07:31.440 Blessing.
00:07:32.440 Do the second clip.
00:07:33.440 The, I'm a 10 one.
00:07:36.440 Yeah.
00:07:37.440 That one.
00:07:42.440 Girls are objective or do you think they think they're hotter than they are or do they 1.00
00:07:55.840 underrate themselves?
00:07:56.840 Go around.
00:07:57.840 Personally, I think it depends on the person because growing up, I'm obviously not skinny.
00:08:02.120 Hi everyone.
00:08:03.120 I'm not skinny.
00:08:04.120 So growing up, I was never the beauty standard for anyone.
00:08:06.880 So like all my friends were getting chatted up by people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:08:10.800 And I was just the other one, you know?
00:08:12.880 So like, I never really thought of myself as an attractive person.
00:08:17.720 Like I would never call myself anything more than a thought, but now, like, I don't really
00:08:22.960 care about what anyone thinks about me.
00:08:26.120 Like I've grown into myself and I've, I've, I'm comfortable with who I am now that like,
00:08:31.800 even if you guys call me delusion or whatever, I think I'm maybe not a 10, let's not go that
00:08:36.560 far, but like definitely an eight per.
00:08:40.200 So like, whether you guys think I am or not, eh, that's got nothing to do with her.
00:08:46.120 But like, yeah.
00:08:47.120 What is it that took you from a four to an eight?
00:08:49.120 If nothing's changed, what is it that takes you from a four to an eight?
00:08:52.120 Loving myself and looking in the mirror and not being disgusted at what I see.
00:08:57.120 I understand that.
00:08:58.120 Yeah.
00:08:59.120 But that doesn't, you're, you're not necessarily being objective about how other people view
00:09:03.120 you, right?
00:09:04.120 Like, cause isn't that what a rating really is?
00:09:06.040 Like what you think the vast majority of people, like if I rated myself one to 10, I give myself
00:09:10.040 a five.
00:09:11.040 People looking and I just think it's based on my results.
00:09:13.960 I think if I was an eight, nine or 10, I would have had modeling contracts because people in
00:09:17.520 the top 20% of beauty, they get, they get modeling contracts.
00:09:19.960 But what is beauty?
00:09:20.960 So what is beauty?
00:09:21.960 I mean, there's a lot of things like if you, I mean, you can, you can go online and have
00:09:27.840 people rate your pictures and they, they rank you one to 10.
00:09:30.960 That's wild and, and so you can get, you can get a lot of data that says how attractive
00:09:34.640 you are in society and men will wait, you women will rate you like every day. 1.00
00:09:39.320 How we look is like how we represent ourselves.
00:09:41.240 It's not fun, but it's just like being honest.
00:09:44.800 So, um, and it's also like, you can take a dating apps to like, you know, everyone's Tinder
00:09:50.460 bumble.
00:09:51.460 Like they have a ranking for you behind the scenes.
00:09:53.720 Yeah.
00:09:54.720 Damn.
00:09:55.720 Yeah.
00:09:56.720 Well, so, um, I don't understand.
00:10:00.880 When girls say like, I'm an eight because, or sometimes I hear girls say time, cause I
00:10:05.120 hear this a lot where they're say like, because I love myself and I'm like confident now, but
00:10:09.240 don't you think attractiveness is based on results?
00:10:12.200 They may be, but I don't care about those results to be honest.
00:10:18.400 But do you think then you're not being objective about your, how attractive you are or how attractive
00:10:23.700 anyone else might be?
00:10:25.700 Um, I guess not, but yeah, that stuff's not really important to me.
00:10:32.940 Sure.
00:10:33.940 Yeah.
00:10:34.940 But I think when, when someone, when someone rates somebody, why, why does that have anything
00:10:41.460 to do with them?
00:10:42.940 Like if you rate me, if someone rated like somebody a three and it's just like, oh, okay.
00:10:48.180 That's, that's your opinion.
00:10:49.180 Like it's not.
00:10:50.180 Okay.
00:10:51.180 So my first question is based on this clip, do you think women are honest with each other? 0.99
00:10:58.180 No.
00:10:59.180 No.
00:11:00.180 No.
00:11:01.180 No.
00:11:02.180 What do you, what do you think Eddie?
00:11:03.180 100% no.
00:11:04.180 No way.
00:11:05.180 As many of you know, I was just banned on Tik Tok and we are demonetized on a daily basis
00:11:11.700 on this platform.
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