JustPearlyThings - July 02, 2023


They Could Not Logicically Answer This Question


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8 minutes

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1,424

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133

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22

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In this episode, we discuss abortion, child support and gender roles in the modern world. We are joined by our good friend, Pearl, who is a passionate advocate for women's rights and wants to see gender roles change.

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00:00:00.000 Sorry, so I think he should not have a say.
00:00:02.480 So it should be that I am,
00:00:05.520 I know you don't agree with it.
00:00:06.680 That's all right, you can disagree, it's all right.
00:00:08.640 But I do think it is the woman's choice. 0.60
00:00:11.060 It is the body of the woman.
00:00:12.840 And yeah, I just, I think that is the way,
00:00:15.840 I think otherwise you're just gonna be going back and forth
00:00:17.940 on whose say should it be.
00:00:20.600 And it's just, you're never gonna get it.
00:00:22.000 But my thing is, if we're gonna make it equal,
00:00:24.500 why don't we actually make it equal?
00:00:26.200 That's what.
00:00:27.040 So why don't men get to like sign off on child support?
00:00:29.460 Personally, in Pearl's world, it would all be banned.
00:00:32.360 But my question is like,
00:00:34.120 why don't the pro-choice people give men an out
00:00:37.620 because we give women an out? 1.00
00:00:39.520 Because the child's vote for the child.
00:00:41.580 Well, can I just say,
00:00:43.160 if I do think that they should have a say legally,
00:00:46.960 but the only reason that I think that,
00:00:50.940 the only way that you can is,
00:00:53.760 if you're gonna be legally putting a stop to me
00:00:58.080 getting abortion, getting an abortion, okay, 1.00
00:01:01.140 then legally, you have to be involved 50% legally.
00:01:07.140 Because if you stop me from getting this abortion,
00:01:09.840 and then run off, and leave me with this baby,
00:01:13.700 mate, that's not okay.
00:01:14.980 So if that is the only way I would see that it would be okay.
00:01:19.880 So legally?
00:01:20.880 Legally, yes.
00:01:21.880 Okay.
00:01:22.180 But if they have.
00:01:23.440 Okay, so you actually kind of want it to be equal in a way.
00:01:26.440 Yeah.
00:01:26.740 And you think he should be able to sign off on child support.
00:01:28.980 Mm-hmm.
00:01:29.480 Okay.
00:01:29.780 Okay.
00:01:30.280 Why not?
00:01:31.080 Can I say something?
00:01:31.680 Yeah, go ahead.
00:01:32.380 I think just the process of making a baby,
00:01:38.840 it's already an unequal thing that woman has to carry a baby 1.00
00:01:43.580 and go through the nine months, 10 months pregnancy,
00:01:48.640 and then, you know, have the baby.
00:01:50.820 Mm-hmm.
00:01:50.960 So my opinion, men can persuade the woman or say whatever 0.89
00:01:57.260 based on the situation, but women decide on the final decision. 1.00
00:02:02.600 Yeah, the final say.
00:02:03.900 Okay.
00:02:04.160 And you would not be for them being able to sign off
00:02:06.460 on child support?
00:02:09.160 What do you mean?
00:02:10.000 So if women have the final say, which is fine, right? 1.00
00:02:12.960 But could men then say, I don't, if you don't want to be a mother,
00:02:16.760 then I don't have to be a father.
00:02:18.360 And if you keep the baby when he doesn't want it,
00:02:20.460 he can sign off on child support.
00:02:23.060 Personally, as a modern woman, I mean,
00:02:26.600 if I chose to have the baby and he doesn't want to,
00:02:29.800 I don't mind, he sign off, sign off, you know?
00:02:33.240 I would raise the baby myself if I chose to.
00:02:36.140 Okay.
00:02:37.260 Okay.
00:02:37.800 I'm curious, why don't you think men should have an opinion on it?
00:02:41.100 All right.
00:02:41.940 So my mom was a very proud woman, okay?
00:02:43.700 And she never received any child support from my dad.
00:02:46.100 Oh, I didn't even realize you said that, I was asking her.
00:02:47.860 Oh, sorry, do you want me to stop?
00:02:51.100 It's okay if you want me to.
00:02:52.040 Can I ask her and then I'll ask you next?
00:02:54.000 Go ahead.
00:02:55.500 Can you ask me?
00:02:56.500 Why don't you think men should have an opinion on abortion?
00:02:59.700 Um, because the woman's body changes so much. 1.00
00:03:05.700 Um, it's nine to 10 months and of being pregnant.
00:03:10.700 And after you have been pregnant, your body will never be the same.
00:03:15.900 So first of all, your bodies change forever.
00:03:19.900 That's one thing that I don't think a man has the right to challenge that really.
00:03:26.900 Um, and the second thing is that is like more of the broader discussion of women's rights.
00:03:37.100 That like statistically, um, women has less rights than men. 0.99
00:03:44.100 What rights don't we have?
00:03:46.300 I mean, we earn less.
00:03:48.300 I mean, there's less.
00:03:49.300 Because we don't do as hard of jobs.
00:03:51.300 We do.
00:03:52.300 No, we don't.
00:03:53.300 Yes, we do.
00:03:54.300 We do.
00:03:55.300 Build the building next door.
00:03:56.300 Go be a plumber.
00:03:57.300 Go be an electrician.
00:03:58.300 Okay.
00:03:59.300 The power grids, the oil rigs.
00:04:00.500 So this is a, this is a massive, this is a massive discussion and I'm more than happy
00:04:05.300 to start it, but, um, they're hiring.
00:04:08.500 There's an oil rig, but I mean, women has, they have, they have been personal. 1.00
00:04:15.500 I mean, servants for men in homes for years and years and years. 0.86
00:04:22.300 It is never a servant.
00:04:23.700 Wait, just a second.
00:04:27.300 So.
00:04:28.300 And abused them as well.
00:04:29.300 Yeah.
00:04:30.300 I mean, they also, they also died for women by going to war and protecting us.
00:04:34.300 No, it wasn't for women.
00:04:35.300 It was for their country.
00:04:36.300 No, it was for women.
00:04:38.300 Women got to live in the, it was for the government too, but women still got to live in that society 1.00
00:04:43.300 while not defending it.
00:04:45.300 Yeah.
00:04:46.300 But that's because we've had this discussion before.
00:04:47.300 We've spoken about men being physically stronger.
00:04:49.300 So that's why they've gone to fight.
00:04:51.300 And?
00:04:52.300 And that's probably why they do a lot more labor jobs as well, because they're physically stronger.
00:04:56.300 They're physically stronger as well.
00:04:57.300 Correct.
00:04:58.300 Correct.
00:04:59.300 But you don't think we should thank them?
00:05:00.300 That's a privilege.
00:05:01.300 No, we're not saying that.
00:05:02.300 But when the young lady's talking about the body and then, you know, I'm saying, I'll 1.00
00:05:06.300 let you continue.
00:05:07.300 Yeah.
00:05:08.300 Thank you.
00:05:09.300 So basically it hasn't been the woman's choice of not becoming a doctor, becoming a lawyer. 0.60
00:05:18.300 I mean, getting, I mean, inheriting property that hasn't been the, I mean, to not have that
00:05:25.300 right, hasn't been the woman's choice up until like, um, later in time. 0.66
00:05:31.300 So I feel like we're kind of hanging on the back a little bit.
00:05:38.300 And now women are picking up, they are becoming prime ministers and they are, you know, they 0.85
00:05:44.300 are doctors and lawyers, but it takes time.
00:05:47.300 And I feel that, I mean, statistically now in the world, women has less rights.
00:05:53.300 So when it comes, I would say that's not true.
00:05:56.300 I would say we have more rights.
00:05:58.300 So like, then you can start to compare.
00:06:01.300 I mean, thinking about women in America, how many women are in office? 1.00
00:06:06.300 How many women do you think would want to be in office? 1.00
00:06:09.300 Well, one, it's becoming more equal.
00:06:11.300 Like I, we're, we're a good chunk of Congress now.
00:06:14.300 Um, I don't know what percent off the top of my head, but women don't want to do the hardest 1.00
00:06:19.300 jobs.
00:06:20.300 How do you know?
00:06:21.300 Because we don't, there's no barriers stopping us and we don't do them.
00:06:25.300 Have you spoken to these women?
00:06:27.300 Yeah, actually you'd be surprised.
00:06:29.300 I've probably talked to more women in a lifetime than any of you have.
00:06:33.300 I would love to hear, hear people.
00:06:35.300 I mean, women do listen to women who say that they don't have these ambitions. 1.00
00:06:40.300 I've interviewed men in the trades.
00:06:42.300 We just interviewed them last week.
00:06:44.300 That's what I'm saying.
00:06:45.300 Women do not apply for these jobs. 1.00
00:06:46.300 Women do not apply for the hardest jobs. 1.00
00:06:48.300 Women don't tend to apply for jobs. 1.00
00:06:50.300 I would say, I would say the hardest jobs, oil rigs.
00:06:54.300 I would say plumbing, electricity.
00:06:56.300 I would say building buildings.
00:06:57.300 How about being a nurse?
00:06:59.300 Isn't that a really hard job?
00:07:01.300 I would say what's harder is a brain surgeon, which more men are.
00:07:05.300 I mean, okay, so a really interesting thing is that I have learned that chefs, there's more male chefs as an occupation than female chefs.
00:07:20.300 But in the home, it's usually the woman that cooks. 0.98
00:07:24.300 Not in my home.
00:07:26.300 Not in mine, actually.
00:07:28.300 But like, so when you sort of come to a certain level that there's more, I don't know, like prestige in that job, then, you know, it's a man.
00:07:45.300 But because men compete for it. 0.71
00:07:47.300 I think that's our role.
00:07:49.300 That's our role in the society.
00:07:51.300 Like why men has more.
00:07:52.300 What is it?
00:07:53.300 Cholesterol?
00:07:54.300 For the muscle.
00:07:55.300 Oh, testosterone.
00:07:56.300 Testosterone.
00:07:57.300 Testosterone.
00:07:58.300 Why is it easier to build muscles?
00:07:59.300 You know, they're made for doing these building house or, you know, they go out to hunt these kind of jobs.
00:08:05.300 That's what they are made for.
00:08:06.300 And women. 0.98
00:08:07.300 Women are more caring. 1.00
00:08:08.300 Yeah.
00:08:09.300 Right.
00:08:10.300 But it would make more sense that they're paid more if they make up the majority of workplace deaths.
00:08:15.300 So they're doing the more dangerous, hard jobs.
00:08:18.300 I'd imagine there's a payout.
00:08:19.300 There's a payout.
00:08:20.300 There's a payout.