JustPearlyThings - August 04, 2023


They Gave Their HONEST Opinion On POST Wall Actresses


Episode Stats

Length

10 minutes

Words per Minute

190.6444

Word Count

1,925

Sentence Count

149

Misogynist Sentences

42

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

Margot Robbie was cast in the new movie 'Barbie' and some people are calling her "Mani." What does this have to do with the beauty standards society sets for women? And why can't men be as critical of a woman's looks?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this week there was a tweet that erupted Twitter.
00:00:04.040 All right, this tweet had all the women mad
00:00:07.000 on the right and the left.
00:00:08.980 It had the men mad.
00:00:11.260 And the tweet was, can you pull up the one,
00:00:14.740 the original one I sent you?
00:00:19.820 The Brad Pratt one.
00:00:23.020 So it had, do you guys know who Margot Robbie is?
00:00:25.840 Yes.
00:00:26.680 Okay, so there was a tweet that said,
00:00:28.720 despite years of complaining
00:00:30.900 about unrealistic beauty standards,
00:00:32.820 the most talked about movie of the year
00:00:35.260 is of two insanely hot people.
00:00:38.320 And it had a picture of Barbie, okay?
00:00:40.600 And Margot Robbie's the star in Barbie, so.
00:00:44.880 But someone quote tweeted that and said,
00:00:46.820 Margot Robbie was cast in Barbie explicitly
00:00:50.680 because she wasn't pretty enough
00:00:53.260 to alienate a female audience.
00:00:55.860 And this erupted Twitter
00:01:00.460 because they felt like they were just dogging on her looks.
00:01:04.100 They felt like, and then there was a bunch of people
00:01:09.180 who basically were calling Margot Robbie mid.
00:01:12.040 So my question to you is,
00:01:14.120 what would you rate Margot Robbie one to 10?
00:01:16.460 We're gonna show her picture in a second.
00:01:18.460 Can you pull it up, King?
00:01:26.560 Margot Robbie one to 10.
00:01:29.320 In this photo or just in general?
00:01:30.960 In general.
00:01:32.360 In general, I'd give her a 10,
00:01:34.060 but probably in this photo,
00:01:36.400 God, you can tell there's just like,
00:01:38.100 so much post-production on it.
00:01:39.880 She doesn't actually look real,
00:01:40.780 but then she's not trying to display.
00:01:42.400 Can you, can you just Google her too
00:01:44.100 and we can just show some other pictures?
00:01:47.600 But like day to day, I would say, yeah,
00:01:49.140 she's a good solid nine.
00:01:50.560 Nine, nine, 10.
00:01:51.400 Nine, 10, yeah.
00:01:51.960 What do you think?
00:01:52.860 I haven't seen her before,
00:01:54.240 but from what I'm looking at, she looks, okay.
00:01:59.160 She's definitely someone the industry uses
00:02:01.160 as like a beauty standard.
00:02:02.460 Yeah.
00:02:09.460 I would say a seven.
00:02:11.220 Seven.
00:02:12.440 I'll give her like a 8.25.
00:02:17.500 8.2, what do you think?
00:02:18.840 Yeah, she's a 10.
00:02:19.720 10?
00:02:20.560 Eight.
00:02:21.400 She's a strong nine.
00:02:22.320 Nine.
00:02:23.160 Yeah, definitely.
00:02:23.720 Okay, but my question is this.
00:02:26.340 Why can men not criticize a woman's looks
00:02:30.260 without erupting the internet?
00:02:35.460 Or go in order?
00:02:37.100 Anyone can just.
00:02:39.000 I would say because women's looks are known
00:02:44.080 to be a important factor and something
00:02:46.540 that they can often be sensitive about.
00:02:48.800 I think societally, it's a little bit taboo
00:02:52.620 to speak about and can come across offensive
00:02:55.920 and, you know, as they say, misogynistic.
00:02:58.460 So, but if we, but if we like criticize
00:03:00.720 a guy's looks, nobody cares.
00:03:02.080 Like if I called Leonardo DiCaprio mid,
00:03:03.940 no one would care.
00:03:05.920 That's true.
00:03:06.700 You know what I mean?
00:03:07.200 But he's the one dating all the models,
00:03:08.640 but nobody would care.
00:03:10.080 Yeah.
00:03:10.440 Yeah.
00:03:10.580 I think it's because men, society knows
00:03:13.640 men personally don't put as much of
00:03:15.860 as an emphasis on their own looks.
00:03:17.400 It's not as much of a factor,
00:03:19.440 maybe in their confidence, you could say,
00:03:21.460 that it's a little bit easier to make fun of them
00:03:27.360 versus women.
00:03:28.220 It's like, be careful.
00:03:29.580 You don't want to hurt her feelings.
00:03:32.800 What do you guys think?
00:03:36.340 Me personally, I feel like, yeah,
00:03:39.300 females in general are emotional beings.
00:03:43.560 I think that's fair to say.
00:03:44.860 And I don't feel like it's a man's place
00:03:47.620 to even speak on the looks
00:03:51.240 or if they feel like a woman is overly attractive,
00:03:53.260 especially on social media.
00:03:54.320 I think that's, it's a bit of a low blow.
00:03:58.100 So, yeah.
00:04:00.100 Do women speak on if men are attractive
00:04:01.920 on social media?
00:04:03.560 Absolutely.
00:04:05.140 So why does one gender get to do it
00:04:07.020 and not the other?
00:04:07.980 Privilege.
00:04:08.540 Yeah, privilege, definitely.
00:04:09.500 Women privilege.
00:04:10.080 No, but you're saying you,
00:04:11.800 but I'm asking you
00:04:12.540 because you said you don't think
00:04:13.660 men should comment on women's looks.
00:04:16.040 But I'm saying if the women are doing it,
00:04:17.600 why can't the men?
00:04:19.700 It's just, it's taboo, isn't it?
00:04:21.900 Yeah.
00:04:22.600 It's just like one of the,
00:04:23.960 it's like an unspoken rule.
00:04:26.460 But it shouldn't be what's one rule for one
00:04:30.960 and another rule for another.
00:04:33.280 It shouldn't be that way at all.
00:04:34.780 Like imagine, have you ever heard like
00:04:36.540 short man syndrome?
00:04:38.980 Yeah.
00:04:39.220 Like what if they had small tits syndrome?
00:04:43.260 We can't do that, you know?
00:04:46.220 What do you think, Dimitri?
00:04:47.680 Well, there's so much to unpack here.
00:04:48.940 I mean, how deep do we want to dwell into this?
00:04:51.100 Go, go, go deep.
00:04:52.660 Oh man.
00:04:53.220 Okay.
00:04:53.500 So this is actually,
00:04:54.460 there's quite a lot of interesting stuff here.
00:04:56.040 So I was reading some studies.
00:04:57.600 I'm doing a book called The Book of Shame
00:04:58.760 where I'm literally putting together 300 and,
00:05:01.620 sorry, 403.
00:05:04.220 No, 304.
00:05:05.780 304.
00:05:06.580 Putting together 304 studies
00:05:08.160 that sort of outline the difference
00:05:09.760 between virtue signaling
00:05:10.920 and actual outcomes in society.
00:05:12.960 And one thing, of course,
00:05:13.700 we all already know
00:05:14.420 is that what we say
00:05:15.980 and what we think
00:05:16.520 are not the same thing.
00:05:17.800 One very basic example of that,
00:05:19.300 like I did a clip where
00:05:20.380 it's like the most discriminated group
00:05:22.180 when you look at across any group
00:05:23.420 for like controlled for race
00:05:25.040 and looks and age and everything,
00:05:26.420 the most discriminated group by far
00:05:27.860 are short men
00:05:28.600 and it's not close.
00:05:30.140 Like short men have the highest suicide rates,
00:05:31.940 short men have the highest rates
00:05:34.080 of drinking and binge drinking,
00:05:36.200 highest depression,
00:05:37.520 lowest income, etc, etc, etc.
00:05:39.200 And I'm not saying that like
00:05:40.220 short men can't be successful.
00:05:41.880 I think they can and should be.
00:05:43.480 It's more so that we just know
00:05:45.000 the outcomes for short men are terrible.
00:05:46.460 Short men also are vastly underrepresented
00:05:48.220 in the sexual marketplace.
00:05:49.280 Like women are just not picking them.
00:05:50.780 In fact, when you look at like the searches,
00:05:52.460 right, this is just numbers.
00:05:53.380 Like you're looking on search on,
00:05:54.740 what is it?
00:05:55.460 The dating app everybody's using nowadays.
00:05:56.980 is Bumble, whatever.
00:05:59.940 Oh, women filter out.
00:06:01.820 Yeah, under six foot tall
00:06:03.300 to show up in less than 15% of searches.
00:06:05.100 So they don't even get looked at.
00:06:06.700 Oh my gosh, I was thinking about that.
00:06:08.180 I'm like, if I was a short guy,
00:06:10.260 I would just lie on the dating apps.
00:06:11.940 I understand why they do it
00:06:13.180 because I'm like,
00:06:13.680 women lie with the filters,
00:06:15.140 we lie with the makeup.
00:06:16.500 I'm like, if I was a guy,
00:06:17.800 I would lie, make it even, do it too.
00:06:20.940 Right, and so the question is like,
00:06:22.740 okay, so then why do we make it taboo?
00:06:24.600 So there's a few steps here why it is.
00:06:26.400 So virtue signaling is actually
00:06:28.720 like a very well-known mating tactic
00:06:30.880 applied by both men and women.
00:06:32.780 The way that men virtue signal
00:06:33.940 is they become more altruistic
00:06:35.200 around women they perceive to be beautiful.
00:06:36.760 So when you have like a charity event,
00:06:38.320 men will give more money
00:06:39.080 when a beautiful woman's in the room.
00:06:40.220 It's been tested.
00:06:40.840 It's been shown many, many times over.
00:06:43.200 Women virtue signal purity.
00:06:44.840 So women will drop hints
00:06:46.060 that they're sexually pure,
00:06:47.060 despite the fact that they might tell you
00:06:48.340 on this podcast, like,
00:06:49.140 oh, it doesn't matter how many guys you sleep with.
00:06:50.560 But when you actually look at women's behavior
00:06:54.460 and women's and how they express their behavior,
00:06:56.760 they always express their behavior
00:06:58.080 as being sexually cleaner
00:06:59.140 than their actual behavior.
00:07:00.600 This is not conjecture.
00:07:01.560 This is studied and this is true, right?
00:07:03.460 So why not say about a woman, blah, blah, blah?
00:07:06.680 Well, very simply,
00:07:08.200 because a woman's value
00:07:09.960 is implicitly determined
00:07:11.260 by how attractive she is to potential mates.
00:07:13.340 And the way that we know this,
00:07:14.420 there's a really cool study about this,
00:07:16.200 is they did a study on
00:07:17.020 how good are women and men
00:07:18.640 at perceiving the beauty of other women?
00:07:20.680 So they gave...
00:07:21.520 Really?
00:07:22.120 Yes.
00:07:22.800 And so what they found is
00:07:24.340 men consistently pick the same women
00:07:25.900 as being beautiful.
00:07:27.140 Women are highly cognizant
00:07:28.540 and extremely good at identifying
00:07:30.020 which women are beautiful to other men.
00:07:32.140 And the women that are most beautiful to other men,
00:07:34.740 when they are in the room,
00:07:36.100 women become derogatory
00:07:37.180 towards the most beautiful women.
00:07:38.860 Wow.
00:07:39.380 Yes, because they want to undermine,
00:07:40.800 and what they do is
00:07:41.500 they undermine her chastity and her purity.
00:07:43.200 She's like, oh, she's a slut.
00:07:44.360 She's this and that.
00:07:45.200 And the reason they're saying it
00:07:46.340 is because they want to relative.
00:07:47.980 So women compete relatively
00:07:49.160 with each other as well,
00:07:50.040 and so they undermine
00:07:50.700 the sexual market value
00:07:51.600 of other women in the room
00:07:52.520 in order to elevate themselves.
00:07:54.500 So if she's hot,
00:07:54.940 she must be a whore.
00:07:55.900 Right, exactly.
00:07:56.740 So that's what we'll do.
00:07:57.440 Right.
00:07:57.660 And by the way,
00:07:58.260 you never see guys do this, right?
00:07:59.440 It's like, oh, that guy's a piece of crap.
00:08:00.920 Like, guys don't do that
00:08:01.540 because it comes off as inherently feminine.
00:08:03.080 So guys don't compete like that.
00:08:04.160 We compete physically much more direct.
00:08:05.940 Now, here's what's interesting.
00:08:07.160 When men were asked to rate
00:08:08.540 the attractiveness of other men,
00:08:10.380 men are notoriously bad
00:08:11.600 at actualizing
00:08:13.520 like which other men
00:08:15.040 are attractive to women.
00:08:15.920 And it's very easy to prove
00:08:16.980 because like I can talk to Anush
00:08:18.640 or any of the guys here
00:08:19.260 and say, look, guys,
00:08:20.080 have you ever seen a guy
00:08:20.940 that consistently gets beautiful women?
00:08:22.340 And you're like,
00:08:22.760 how does he do that?
00:08:23.700 Pete Davidson.
00:08:24.700 Right?
00:08:25.140 Yeah.
00:08:26.400 So we go like, what the hell?
00:08:27.560 So men are actually very bad
00:08:28.800 at perceiving the attractiveness
00:08:29.960 of other men to women.
00:08:31.500 So we might think that guy's a loser,
00:08:33.220 but he's getting all the chicks.
00:08:34.100 Like what's going on?
00:08:35.140 Right?
00:08:35.580 Well, is it because men
00:08:36.880 are more logical?
00:08:38.500 No.
00:08:38.660 So like, but like women
00:08:39.920 we pick based off of emotions
00:08:41.440 a lot of the time.
00:08:42.640 No, it's, no, it's because,
00:08:43.640 well, obviously that's true,
00:08:45.140 but also, but, but it's more so
00:08:46.300 to do with the fact
00:08:46.900 that men compete on status.
00:08:48.200 So it's like, so,
00:08:49.060 but the question is like,
00:08:49.660 so why can't we objectively
00:08:51.360 say something about a woman?
00:08:52.680 And the answer is very clear.
00:08:54.160 And here it is.
00:08:54.800 It's because we all know,
00:08:55.620 like we look at Margot Robbie,
00:08:57.500 we can play the game.
00:08:58.400 Like, eh, she's a 7.8.
00:08:59.560 It's like, dude,
00:09:00.260 she's literally,
00:09:00.960 she played Sharon Tate
00:09:01.900 on Once Upon a Time in Hollywood,
00:09:03.000 who was the standard of beauty
00:09:04.220 for like two generations.
00:09:05.920 She's literally like,
00:09:06.800 you might say she's not your type,
00:09:08.240 whatever,
00:09:08.540 but objectively find a woman
00:09:10.160 that's objectively more beautiful.
00:09:11.420 Good luck.
00:09:11.760 You know what's interesting though?
00:09:13.800 I've found on this show
00:09:15.260 that when I ask men versus women,
00:09:17.700 women will rate her higher
00:09:18.880 than men do.
00:09:20.260 Like, I don't know why,
00:09:20.980 like, because I always thought
00:09:21.900 she was like the epitome of beauty.
00:09:23.720 Right.
00:09:23.960 But every time I've like,
00:09:25.060 brought her up as like
00:09:25.780 the number one,
00:09:26.600 like beauty status.
00:09:27.380 Do you have other,
00:09:28.100 do you have other women
00:09:28.680 on the couch?
00:09:29.420 Women.
00:09:30.440 When men say that,
00:09:31.440 are there women around them?
00:09:32.500 Yeah.
00:09:32.860 The men are virtue signaling.
00:09:33.660 Well, no, no,
00:09:34.240 but what they'll usually do
00:09:35.440 is they'll bring up,
00:09:36.240 like the most common one I got
00:09:38.080 is the,
00:09:38.760 what is that preacher's wife?
00:09:40.300 I think she just divorced him.
00:09:43.080 I cannot remember her name.
00:09:44.280 Megan Good?
00:09:44.920 Yeah, I get Megan Good a lot
00:09:46.400 and I get
00:09:47.220 the Russell Wilson's wife now.
00:09:53.100 I get her a lot.
00:09:54.020 Sierra?
00:09:54.740 Yeah, I get those two
00:09:55.720 more than Margot Robbie,
00:09:56.920 weirdly enough.
00:09:58.060 Well, look,
00:09:58.560 she might,
00:09:59.000 there's different levels,
00:09:59.980 whatever,
00:10:00.260 but like objectively speaking,
00:10:01.600 like she's like,
00:10:03.620 like you're not going to,
00:10:04.340 oh, I want better.
00:10:05.340 It's like, okay.