They Tricked Him Into Transitioning
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Summary
In this virtual episode, I interview someone who is suing the NHS for gender reassignment surgery and the harm caused by it. Richie, who is 36 years old and suing the Nhs, talks about her journey of transitioning from male to female and the difficulties that come with it.
Transcript
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what up guys welcome to the just pearly things youtube channel and welcome to the sit down this
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is actually our first virtual episode so today i am interviewing someone that you are suing the nhs
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that's right okay so richie welcome to the show thank you so tell me why are you suing the nhs
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um i underwent gender treatment for gender i said treatment in quotations for gender reassignment
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and had surgery in 2018 um and it was something that i didn't really want and it was kind of
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pushed again from the moment i had my first psychiatric appointment at the gender clinic
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it was just straight away do you want gender assignment surgery and i was like i don't think
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so i've got questions though and all the questions were just kind of brushed off um and then
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when the first referral came through i was like i don't think i want this i want more therapy
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so i had some therapy over a long period of time and when i say therapy i mean with a gender therapist
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right this isn't like um a psychoanalyst this is somebody who's got an ideological sort of view
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of what you are and who you are and over time um i went through this rigmarole of getting referred
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and cancelling it and then by about 2017 they just give us an old made of them and it was like
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if you don't want surgery we'll just sort of discharge you so i kind of debated myself into it
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as well as talking with a lot of people and no one would ever talk about the bad stuff
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by the way it was just how great it was and how you can very quickly fall in a reasons that if this is
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going to be me for the rest of my life and the situation down below because when you take estrogen
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and anti-androgen bloggers and stuff like that um it atrophies everything um and you lose a lot of
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functionality and it also over time makes getting any sort of surgery in the future
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more impossible so it kind of just got sold to us as you're going to go down this path anyway and
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i wasn't a well person and i'm still still have struggles but i certainly wasn't a very well
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person and then i had it and not only did all my fears sort of come true but i'm realized before the
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complications that came off it that were obvious um even before then i was like i regret this i shouldn't
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have done this um and then after i so i went back to the gender clinic and said i think i regret it
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but i don't know what to do i wasn't really blaming anyone but myself and uh they just told me i wasn't
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regretting it and that i had ocd and that i had unstable personality disorder and to for all intents and
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purposes to get the ocd treated and i pretty much just got abandoned and very much hurt by it and then
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in about 2022 early on i kind of started realizing that i had a bit of a case for negligence and i
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really wanted to talk about all the harms that are happening too because it's not just me there's a lot of
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people so when so you're you were you're a boy and when did you start feeling like you were a girl
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like how old very young i mean and i think that was like a reaction to trying to understand my nature
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and my place in the world you know because i was very i wasn't a hyper effeminate boy but i was definitely
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a very very soft boy and i had mixed interests i liked pop-up kitchens and um action meant lego and
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computers and stuff but um i definitely also liked dressing up from about four or five and playing
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like that sort of social play and i was just trying to make sense of who i was in the world so did your
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parents push this stuff on you at all or no absolutely not no i mean it was just to be
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clear just to clarify i'm 36 years old oh wow yeah younger yeah i transitioned as an adult
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medically at 26 i had surgery two days before my first birthday and i'm glad you kind of said
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when i said that not just because uh because i want you to have a reaction to how i look but because
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i want to bring this point that what hormones do with males is it doesn't make you feminine it just
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meets your male characteristics and it kind of at certain stages reverses them so you kind of take
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on a very youthful male appearance which often gets construed as a female appearance but it's not it's
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just a a meeting of the secondary characteristics rather than a feminization so when did you have
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your first meeting with the nhs uh so before sorry i just said one question i thought of that would
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lead yeah yeah go for it did did social media influence your decision at all like do you think
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that had an impact on this was kind of pre the boom but i did find a trans group online in back in
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the old days of the in that you had forums that were the main sort of social media like little groups
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and i joined what i thought was the trans community but it was essentially just
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an agp community basically but i didn't know that at the time i didn't know what that was i didn't
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know what any of this was um and that idea was very much given to us on who will play it and
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especially when you're so ready to retcon everything like change your history like for instance me wanting
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a player dress up as the head teacher at four years old and putting the feather hat and the big pearls
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and stuff that was obviously sign of gender dysphoria wanting to be a ballerina at seven and eight
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years old that was gender dysphoria hating football and picking daisy chains on the football field rather
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than playing the game that was all dysphoria what it was was just a soft boy trying to understand his
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place in the world that was very cut and dry yeah no i i relate to that a bit because i was very much a
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tomboy growing up so like i was very into like sports and i never really related to like girly stuff
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yeah but i just kind of wonder like why in your situation you ended up like thinking you were
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trans and i didn't like i was just curious what has like pushed you down that route so i think there are
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various other factors that play and the way i view it is you can't just make a cake with just flour right
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just being non-conform itself isn't enough right you need the other ingredients so i think um neurodivergence
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comes into it with autism and adhd that is just i don't know a single trans person or detransitioner
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who doesn't have either high function and autism or adhd it's like either or um there's also the same
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sex attraction element there's the relationship with your peers and one thing i've tend to notice is
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there's always this like early sort of idea body dysmorphia and i think it comes through on two facets
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one you either have somebody who goes through puberty very early and they're very different
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from the peers or they go through it very late and i was in the very late category um and also
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the bullying at school i don't know how you did at school but i was ripped to shreds at school and
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that's sort of how you view your own sex and how you're trying to make sense of yourself in the world
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all compounds to these feelings and then yeah i was a very anxious person had a lot of panic attacks
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i've got a very high diagnosis of ocd uh even before i got um went down the trans stuff they knew about
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like me disorders and stuff um and i just held a a very panicky anxious disposition because of a lot
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of external events i had an older brother he was always trying to toughen us up and he was fighting
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he always fought me battles for us you know um and then he went off to the army because he's like
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two and a half years older and then in school it just early fell apart so i don't know i and also
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had a very black and white view of the world and i had all this anxiety and depression in my early 20s
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and i was desperate to find an answer for why i was the way i was why did i have really bad ocd why
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was the same i was trying to reason why was the same sex attracted like i was falling down all these
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rabbit holes that this is a result of something terrible that must have happened but nothing
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terrible did happen right there were things i had grooming online as a very young teenager when i was
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also trying to explore because the early internet and the internet in general is just a cesspit
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and very dangerous um and again i come over gender dysphoria and these trans groups when i'm like
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24 25 and it was just like oh this is the reason and then it was just not only do you have the reason
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but you've got a set of instructions on how to fix it and a pathway that you never had before and
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you've got to understand for someone like me who loves and i love instructions right um i like
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reading instruction manuals and stuff like that that's quite typical for someone like me right and
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when somebody says to be happy you do xyz you go down this path you see this person you see this
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specialist it's like oh yes i'm on the path and it's great um and that and also when you enter this
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community and they're all very like love bombing you invent like just venerating any pictures you share
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because uh with even without any very little hormones it didn't take much to even look feminine for
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for me and that's just because of me the shape of my face right and it's just one of those things right