JustPearlyThings - May 17, 2023


They Would Rather Live In The 1950s Than 2023


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12 minutes

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2,334

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234

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In this episode, we discuss whether or not women will be better off in 2023 than they were in 1953. We also discuss the impact of technology and social media on the way society views women and the way we view men.

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00:00:00.000 Okay, what percent of Western women are marriage material in 2023? 1.00
00:00:10.480 That's a really hard question.
00:00:12.960 I'll just say, first thing that came to my head, maybe 25%.
00:00:15.500 25%.
00:00:16.600 Probably 20%, 20%.
00:00:20.240 Was the question, what percentage of women are wifeable? 1.00
00:00:24.520 Marriage material.
00:00:25.660 Marriage material.
00:00:27.980 Yeah, under 20%.
00:00:30.000 Under 20%, what do you think?
00:00:32.800 I'd say 30%.
00:00:34.200 30%.
00:00:35.000 I'd say about 15%.
00:00:37.420 The way how things are going right now is the last dying breed, so that's 20%. 1.00
00:00:42.700 10%.
00:00:44.580 Do you think women are better off in 2023 than they were in 1953?
00:00:50.260 And tell me why, yes or no, and why?
00:00:53.780 I don't think so.
00:00:55.520 I think, this is just my personal opinion.
00:00:58.740 In 2023, you are better off materialistically.
00:01:06.720 That's just the way society is.
00:01:08.300 We have to sort of fend for ourselves.
00:01:10.500 So, you know, if I really wanted to, I can work hard.
00:01:12.980 I can go out and buy a Mercedes, get a Chanel bag, whatever.
00:01:16.720 But, you know, I still have to walk down the street alone at night, not knowing what could happen.
00:01:25.260 You know?
00:01:25.760 And, like, you know, the option to sit at home and be a housewife isn't readily available to me.
00:01:33.340 So, I do believe that women in the 1950s were better off just because life was simpler. 0.99
00:01:39.460 Also, like, technology wasn't around back then.
00:01:41.620 And I think that especially social media is the most toxic thing to happen to us.
00:01:47.040 You know, we're more connected than ever before.
00:01:50.200 But I think kind of what you were saying, like, spiritually, we're further apart than we ever have been.
00:01:55.720 Because social media and everything, it's just a front.
00:01:59.160 And you get to tailor that front how you want to be perceived.
00:02:03.160 So, yeah, I definitely think that, well, me personally, I would have much preferred to have been around in the 1950s.
00:02:09.580 Yeah, I agree.
00:02:12.240 I definitely would have much preferred to be around in that time because, you know, things were just, I would say, more simple back then.
00:02:21.520 And just more, just, I wouldn't say easier, but just there wasn't a lot of pressure.
00:02:28.660 You know, you didn't have that much pressure to prove yourself or you weren't comparing yourself to people all the time.
00:02:35.460 And, you know, you kind of just did what you did to get by.
00:02:38.560 And, you know, communities were stronger as well.
00:02:40.500 Yeah, you looked after your family and, you know, you weren't distracted by social media and, you know, what people are doing and what people are wearing and buying nowadays.
00:02:51.220 So I feel like we have been, like, brainwashed in a way.
00:02:56.600 And I would much prefer to be back in those days, to be honest.
00:03:00.300 I would say, obviously, we're talking about gender right now, but for race, I think in 1953, like, it must have been way harder for, like, black couples to be able to even, like, function.
00:03:16.300 So, and then 2023, we're much more aware about, like, race and, like, the effects that, like, black people have. 0.99
00:03:24.640 Like, so for me to find a lovely black man in 2023, I feel like, yeah, it will be much easier for us to actually be in an open relationship.
00:03:34.400 Like, open, open?
00:03:35.200 No, not open, open, because, no, I want to be in a monogamous relationship, but, yeah, you know, to even hold hands down the street without, yeah.
00:03:47.920 So, yeah, I think 2023.
00:03:50.500 Can you ask the question again?
00:03:52.040 Are women better off in 2023 than they were in 1953? 1.00
00:03:59.180 Oh, no.
00:03:59.800 I think, like, they're really influenced by society and that they're, like, chasing what society is feeding them.
00:04:07.560 And, like, when they actually get there, they're so unhappy because they've realised they've wasted their life chasing something that was designed to destroy them.
00:04:17.000 I think that was always implicated from the 1950s, even till now.
00:04:21.540 There's always been fashion.
00:04:23.200 There's always been upper, middle, and lower class.
00:04:26.160 So, people have always been chasing something, you know what I mean, to bear themselves.
00:04:30.500 So, me personally, I say it's just more in your face because we've got access to it.
00:04:38.020 Do you know what I mean?
00:04:38.540 Certain people that, what we're now looking at and thinking, oh, wow, they've got this and that.
00:04:43.120 There's always been an upper class, middle class, and a lower class.
00:04:46.400 It's just more in your face now.
00:04:47.720 And we more look at it like, oh, if they can do it, I must be able to do it.
00:04:53.620 It's just, you're chasing it quicker because it's in your face.
00:04:56.460 But in aspect of, like, fashion and everything, nothing has really changed.
00:05:02.700 I'll be honest.
00:05:03.440 It's just more in your face.
00:05:04.700 It's just more accessible.
00:05:06.640 But for me personally, I'm happy in 2023.
00:05:09.300 You don't think social media makes women more delusional? 1.00
00:05:12.180 It does, but it's in your face.
00:05:13.760 That's why.
00:05:14.140 It's like they start thinking they look like the filters.
00:05:16.560 I said, God, I hate it.
00:05:18.800 After a show, someone messaged me off of Instagram, I'll look at it.
00:05:22.200 I'm like, what the?
00:05:23.620 Who was that?
00:05:24.920 I hear that.
00:05:25.800 100%.
00:05:26.520 It's like they start to literally think that they're the filters and that the attention they
00:05:31.000 get from those filters equates to real life and it does it.
00:05:34.600 But just as human beings, we've always looked up.
00:05:38.220 Like, there's always been kings and queens.
00:05:40.140 You know what I mean?
00:05:40.700 Like, so it's just more in your face.
00:05:43.620 It weren't accessible like that.
00:05:44.920 Like, the rich used to be around the rich.
00:05:46.720 The poor used to be around the poor.
00:05:48.420 Do you know what I mean?
00:05:48.940 And if you did see a rich person or you'd look up to being that person, but it's exactly
00:05:54.320 the same, I'd say.
00:05:55.420 It's just more in your face.
00:05:56.580 It's more accessible.
00:05:57.300 I think that's what the computers are designed to do.
00:05:59.800 Like, the economy.
00:06:01.000 Now relies on the computer, which influences the outcome of society as a whole.
00:06:06.280 I actually think women are better off today because they have no consequences for bad decisions. 1.00
00:06:10.740 I don't think it makes us happy.
00:06:12.320 But I just think, like, before, if you left your man, you were homeless.
00:06:15.600 Now we have all these programs to bail us out of every bad decision that we made.
00:06:19.480 So if you look at it from...
00:06:20.800 Very true.
00:06:21.340 I mean, I don't think it makes us happy.
00:06:23.740 Just like it's kind of like if you give a kid everything they want, are they really going
00:06:27.060 to be happy at 18?
00:06:28.040 I mean, I almost think women are spoiled in 2022, 23. 1.00
00:06:32.420 Oh my gosh, it's after me.
00:06:34.600 I forgot.
00:06:36.320 You agree?
00:06:36.880 Disagree?
00:06:37.280 Yeah.
00:06:37.660 Yeah.
00:06:37.760 I would agree.
00:06:38.440 Definitely.
00:06:38.560 Yeah.
00:06:38.840 Yeah.
00:06:39.120 Yeah.
00:06:39.340 Yeah.
00:06:40.340 You don't think women are spoiled in 2023? 1.00
00:06:43.660 No, I do.
00:06:44.240 Oh, you do?
00:06:44.900 I thought you said you don't.
00:06:45.700 Oh, no.
00:06:46.120 I think they're super reasonable.
00:06:47.700 Oh, okay.
00:06:48.340 Okay.
00:06:48.840 This is a pretty reasonable panel, but...
00:06:50.460 I think, you know, you said, obviously, like, are women better off?
00:06:53.200 Yeah.
00:06:53.400 I think...
00:06:53.900 I think...
00:06:54.400 Yeah.
00:06:54.660 You're like, I agree.
00:06:55.660 They are, like, better off.
00:06:56.960 We are.
00:06:57.960 My answer was more coming from, like, a personal point of view of what I'd like.
00:07:00.780 And you're right.
00:07:01.280 It's about what would make us happy.
00:07:03.580 But if you're actually looking at it black and white, yeah, you're better off.
00:07:06.780 Like, even if you do go homeless or whatever, like, start on OnlyFans.
00:07:10.700 Like, we have that option now.
00:07:11.900 Or it's like, if you get pregnant, they used to have shotgun weddings.
00:07:18.360 Now they just have abortions. 1.00
00:07:20.340 Wow.
00:07:21.100 It's true.
00:07:21.960 Yeah, it is true.
00:07:22.960 You know, 40% of women that have had abortions have a two or more?
00:07:26.680 40%.
00:07:27.180 Wow.
00:07:27.500 That's a really sad statistic.
00:07:28.740 And so, and 60%, what are they going to have in the future?
00:07:31.500 So it's literally a form of birth control in 2023.
00:07:33.520 Yeah, people use abortions as birth control, and it's not great.
00:07:38.420 I don't think it's great.
00:07:40.080 Well, I definitely think we're better off in 2023.
00:07:41.880 I don't think we would have been able to do this in the 1950s, sit with a woman-only panel 1.00
00:07:46.320 and discuss topics.
00:07:48.460 So I'm grateful that we're here.
00:07:50.120 They had some, actually.
00:07:51.380 Did they?
00:07:51.600 I've been reacting to some.
00:07:52.760 Yeah, it's like, there was a...
00:07:54.520 But were they, like, as watched as viewed?
00:07:57.280 Yeah, it was.
00:07:58.020 It was, well, probably not as...
00:07:59.680 I mean, I can't imagine they had the views YouTube does nowadays.
00:08:03.760 But I was watching this debate.
00:08:05.880 I don't know if we...
00:08:06.700 Did we post the reaction of the debate of the housewife versus the... 0.83
00:08:12.680 Do you remember?
00:08:13.400 It was, like, a housewife versus a career woman. 0.95
00:08:15.800 And it was so interesting because it was the same conversation we're having today,
00:08:18.920 but it was literally...
00:08:19.720 It might have been the 60s or, like, 50s, 60s time frame.
00:08:22.520 But then maybe it wouldn't be as diverse.
00:08:24.800 Maybe.
00:08:25.720 Probably not.
00:08:26.560 Probably not.
00:08:27.320 So, like, I think we're better off now in 2023.
00:08:29.840 Yeah.
00:08:30.200 We've got access to more things.
00:08:31.560 But it's, like, I think we're better off, but we're not happier as a whole.
00:08:35.020 Yeah.
00:08:35.200 Yeah.
00:08:35.320 Like, I don't think women, the outcomes, like, leave us happy. 1.00
00:08:38.760 And I feel like what you said, social media, the delusion.
00:08:41.860 I feel like a lot of us, well, I speak for myself maybe,
00:08:44.860 we spend so much time on social media that we get distracted
00:08:47.080 and we start looking at what we see and thinking,
00:08:49.080 okay, this is what we need.
00:08:51.100 This is what we should be doing.
00:08:52.200 This is where we should do.
00:08:53.080 And in reality, it's not like that.
00:08:54.640 Everyone's showing their highlights.
00:08:55.840 Nobody's showing what is really happening.
00:08:57.280 Well, and I think the delusion is leaving us single and childless.
00:09:01.360 I mean, who is a kid here?
00:09:02.800 Who is a kid?
00:09:03.260 You have a kid.
00:09:04.140 And they say 50% of women are going to be single and childless by 2030.
00:09:08.500 So, I mean, it's half of us.
00:09:10.360 Like, if we look in this room, half of us probably won't have kids.
00:09:13.060 That's so sad.
00:09:13.720 That's really sad.
00:09:16.180 That is so sad.
00:09:17.420 I hope it's not any of you.
00:09:19.260 But does that make people happy?
00:09:20.820 And my grandma, you know what's crazy? 1.00
00:09:21.980 My grandma, she's like pretty sick. 0.70
00:09:24.800 So, I don't know how much longer she's going to live.
00:09:26.280 But so, I've been asking her like these like deep questions.
00:09:28.440 I'll get them on video.
00:09:29.580 And one of them I said, like, do you have any regrets in life?
00:09:32.100 And she told me, I wish I had more kids.
00:09:34.260 And I said, Grandma, you had nine kids.
00:09:38.680 How many did she want? 0.90
00:09:40.080 She's like, 12.
00:09:41.760 Wow.
00:09:42.660 But it's like, when you ask girls, I mean, who here wants nine kids?
00:09:46.380 Yeah, no.
00:09:46.860 No.
00:09:47.320 I definitely wouldn't mind.
00:09:48.460 No.
00:09:48.680 I would have nine children.
00:09:49.320 You would have nine kids?
00:09:50.060 100%.
00:09:50.720 Really?
00:09:51.000 Have you had one yet?
00:09:52.400 No.
00:09:52.760 Have the one first and then you come back to me.
00:09:54.860 No, I don't even need to have the one.
00:09:56.220 Like, I've already looked after children.
00:09:58.240 No, I mean, child labour.
00:09:59.760 Child-child labour.
00:10:00.960 I've got three monthly periods.
00:10:02.340 That's fine.
00:10:02.620 No, no, no.
00:10:03.020 It's nothing like that.
00:10:03.620 No, no, no.
00:10:04.720 It's nothing.
00:10:05.520 It's worse.
00:10:06.480 It's like, I don't know, a half thousand times worse.
00:10:09.460 When are my bodies built for that?
00:10:10.820 It is built for that.
00:10:11.560 But I don't know if you would go nine times for that.
00:10:13.480 But it's interesting because the conversation you guys are having now,
00:10:16.860 that's like a modern conversation.
00:10:18.280 Yeah.
00:10:18.480 Because if I said that to my grandma,
00:10:19.980 she would be like, yeah, no, I have more than nine.
00:10:24.700 So it's kind of just, it's a testament of the times.
00:10:28.400 Definitely.
00:10:29.280 Yeah.
00:10:29.460 I think, I feel like women really want to, well, there's a lot of people who actually
00:10:35.760 want to just work.
00:10:36.940 So I think they're thinking that they don't want to have that many kids just so that they
00:10:41.740 can still have that freedom and that flexibility.
00:10:43.560 And there's a lot of women who actually don't even want kids as well. 1.00
00:10:48.540 And there is a study that said 80% of women want children.
00:10:52.460 So the majority of women do want kids. 1.00
00:10:54.600 I think it's, because I've had girls come on the show and they'll say, oh, I don't want
00:10:58.280 kids.
00:10:58.540 And then my next question is, well, what if it was with this guy?
00:11:02.460 Some say it because they're with someone that doesn't want kids or they just feel like
00:11:06.780 they can't be a mother. 0.93
00:11:07.700 Or they can't get the guy they want to have kids with.
00:11:10.520 That's true.
00:11:11.740 And so it's almost like a cope.
00:11:13.060 Now I don't, I don't want kids.
00:11:14.240 I mean, some girls really don't, but it's, I don't think it's a large percentage of women. 1.00
00:11:18.940 Yeah.
00:11:19.200 I wonder how old those women are as well. 1.00
00:11:20.980 The women who say that they, they don't, I'd be interested to find a woman. 1.00
00:11:24.360 It's like mid thirties plus.
00:11:26.300 It's usually a cope in my, I actually, I want to do a panel with single childless women over 1.00
00:11:30.880 the age of 55.
00:11:32.300 Yeah.
00:11:32.740 It's hard to recruit for that though.
00:11:34.200 So if the comments want to help me in London, that's specific of a panel, but just to get their
00:11:39.440 point of view, because I feel like around like fifties, women get more based a little 0.98
00:11:44.920 bit where they kind of are not like, you still get the 40 year old saying, oh, I'm going to
00:11:48.920 have three kids.
00:11:49.960 Like when?
00:11:52.360 Yeah.
00:11:53.800 Menopause is coming.
00:11:55.140 Oh dear.
00:11:55.740 Body clock.
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