JustPearlyThings - December 28, 2022


This Debate Gets Heated


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19 minutes

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3,988

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183

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Misogyny

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Hate speech

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In this episode, I give my opinion on what it means to be a woman that stands her ground and refuses to back down in a situation where someone else is standing their ground. I also give some pointers on how to deal with people that don t understand who you are and what you stand for.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 Oh my God!
00:00:01.000 Shut up and listen.
00:00:02.000 You're so obsessed with yourself.
00:00:03.000 Be quiet, come on.
00:00:04.000 No, she's giving, what she is, she's giving, she's giving an example.
00:00:07.000 She's saying that she's been in your, but listen, listen, listen.
00:00:11.000 I don't want that type of clout.
00:00:13.000 I beg, I'm not doing this for clout.
00:00:14.000 It's so simple.
00:00:15.000 No, but she's not, she's not saying that she's doing it for clout.
00:00:17.000 She's giving an example that she's been in your shoes, but she's handled it a different
00:00:21.000 way.
00:00:22.000 She's taking it.
00:00:23.000 I'm not saying well done to her.
00:00:24.000 No, but it's not about saying well.
00:00:25.000 I beg, because you've not let me finish.
00:00:27.000 You've not let me finish because you say you want to move on.
00:00:29.000 If you want to move on, let me finish speaking because I'm more stubborn than you and I'll
00:00:32.000 not stop until I finish my point.
00:00:34.000 And my point simply is, if you are not willing to take shit, don't go and talk.
00:00:39.000 If you're not willing to stand your ground as a woman, don't go out there and be going 1.00
00:00:43.000 for a fight.
00:00:44.000 If you're not ready to fight, you exit the situation straight away.
00:00:47.000 If you want to stay and fight, you stand tall and you fight.
00:00:49.000 I'm not afraid to sit here and argue with Pearl.
00:00:52.000 Listen.
00:00:53.000 You're still cutting me off.
00:00:54.000 You're still cutting me off.
00:00:55.000 Listen.
00:00:56.000 You had a conversation that didn't go your way.
00:00:57.000 You didn't like what you heard and now you're labeling Pearl to be misogynistic, racist,
00:01:00.000 and this and that.
00:01:01.000 When I've had the same experience on the podcast you did, I've had the same experience.
00:01:06.000 I've had bigger head to heads with both people that you're referring to.
00:01:09.000 And I don't feel the same way because I understand it's not personal.
00:01:12.000 It's not about race.
00:01:13.000 It's about who are you?
00:01:14.000 What do you stand for?
00:01:16.000 How much do you respect yourself and what you think and what you believe?
00:01:19.000 And clearly, but how you have acted, even how you're acting right now, it's not very high.
00:01:23.000 I just think you're dick riding.
00:01:25.000 That's what I think.
00:01:26.000 I don't need to dick ride.
00:01:27.000 Because I told you how I feel and I don't care about how you feel.
00:01:30.000 I do not care about how you feel.
00:01:32.000 Even though you say it, you expose yourself.
00:01:34.000 How come you can express how you feel, but she can't express how she feels.
00:01:38.000 Because at the end of the day, you asked about my experience, right?
00:01:42.000 If we're going to talk about denial, let's move on.
00:01:44.000 I didn't ask about your experience.
00:01:45.000 Don't bring it about your experience about my experience.
00:01:47.000 Okay, fine.
00:01:48.000 Let the police disjointed.
00:01:49.000 Let's make it denial and forget about Esther.
00:01:52.000 Let me tell you.
00:01:53.000 A powerful, strong woman that respects herself and holds the truth will sit here and have 0.99
00:01:59.000 people shouting in her ear, telling her that she was not abused for five years because
00:02:03.000 she didn't report it to the police.
00:02:04.000 And guess what she does? 0.98
00:02:05.000 She sits there with compulsion, says, you say what you got to say.
00:02:08.000 I know my truth.
00:02:09.000 And by the way, my sisters, if you need help, I'm here for you.
00:02:11.000 It's that simple.
00:02:12.000 I don't care about what these people have to say.
00:02:13.000 Because in my opinion, they talk shit because their truth is not my truth.
00:02:16.000 Simple.
00:02:17.000 Simple.
00:02:18.000 Nothing more, nothing less.
00:02:20.000 And instead, you choose to sit here, shout and be rude.
00:02:23.000 And to the point where you...
00:02:24.000 You were shouting.
00:02:25.000 Wait, wait.
00:02:26.000 To the point that you're swearing at me.
00:02:28.000 You swear at me too.
00:02:29.000 No, no, no.
00:02:30.000 I didn't.
00:02:31.000 Yes, you did.
00:02:32.000 I didn't.
00:02:33.000 No, no, no, no.
00:02:34.000 Actually, there's some time.
00:02:35.000 Let's go back.
00:02:36.000 I did answer.
00:02:37.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:02:38.000 Stop.
00:02:39.000 Because you're fighting against the person that stands on your side.
00:02:41.000 Because you're shouting at me.
00:02:42.000 Listen, be quiet for two seconds.
00:02:43.000 You're still shouting.
00:02:44.000 I'm not a mugu.
00:02:45.000 I'm not a mugu.
00:02:46.000 So you been shouting at me when I said that.
00:02:47.000 I'm not a mugu.
00:02:48.000 Because they speak to you.
00:02:49.000 You know they listen all.
00:02:50.000 Don't raise your voice at me.
00:02:51.000 I think I'm going to raise my voice back.
00:02:53.000 Esther.
00:02:54.000 Esther.
00:02:55.000 You're the problem.
00:02:56.000 You're the problem.
00:02:57.000 You're the problem.
00:02:58.000 It's so embarrassing to sit here and hear a sister like you speak to a woman like me in
00:03:01.000 the way that you have spoken to me.
00:03:03.000 It's embarrassing.
00:03:04.000 It's embarrassing.
00:03:05.000 People are sitting here trying to give you pointers so that you can survive better.
00:03:08.000 No, I don't want your pointers.
00:03:09.000 I beg.
00:03:10.000 I beg.
00:03:11.000 I beg.
00:03:12.000 Shut up for two seconds. 0.99
00:03:13.000 Listen, be quiet.
00:03:14.000 You're proper cloud chasing.
00:03:15.000 Esther, be quiet because you need to learn from people that are doing better than you actually.
00:03:20.000 It's not about cloud chasing.
00:03:21.000 It's about putting you in your place.
00:03:22.000 Yes, you are.
00:03:23.000 Esther, stop for two seconds because if you don't-
00:03:26.000 Can we please move on?
00:03:27.000 No, we can't.
00:03:28.000 Until I finish my point.
00:03:29.000 I don't want to walk out.
00:03:30.000 I'll let her-
00:03:31.000 Walk out then.
00:03:32.000 Walk out.
00:03:33.000 If you walk out, I'll walk out.
00:03:34.000 You're doing too much.
00:03:35.000 Walk out.
00:03:36.000 Who's stronger?
00:03:37.000 Me or you?
00:03:38.000 Pearl, please.
00:03:39.000 Who's stronger?
00:03:40.000 Someone in the comments was like, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
00:03:45.000 Okay, Esther, Esther, Esther.
00:03:48.000 Donalva, Esther, Donalva.
00:03:49.000 Guys, guys, guys.
00:03:50.000 All right.
00:03:51.000 Okay, okay.
00:03:52.000 Esther, Donalva.
00:03:53.000 Donalva, I'll give you 30 more seconds.
00:03:54.000 Can you finish your point in 30 seconds?
00:03:56.000 Okay.
00:03:57.000 And then I'll give you 30 seconds to respond and then we'll be done.
00:03:59.000 Okay?
00:04:00.000 My point simply is, ladies, if you're going to open your mouth, be ready for the consequences
00:04:05.000 that will come after your words.
00:04:07.000 If you're going somewhere and people are coming for you and you cannot handle it and you can feel
00:04:12.000 upset, it's because you are not comfortable with who you are.
00:04:14.000 Don't blame it on other people.
00:04:15.000 It's really that simple.
00:04:17.000 Don't come here.
00:04:18.000 Call Pearl names if you are not the G that can actually sit there and debate intellectually 1.00
00:04:23.000 without any issues.
00:04:24.000 That's that simple.
00:04:25.000 Emotional response is weakness.
00:04:27.000 There you go.
00:04:28.000 It's an intellectual debate.
00:04:29.000 Okay, Esther, you have 30 seconds.
00:04:30.000 What I have to say is, when I was invited on the show, I didn't know I was coming on Pearl's
00:04:35.000 show.
00:04:36.000 Eddie invited me onto a YouTube show.
00:04:39.000 I take accountability because I should have asked and made sure I clarified which show I was going on.
00:04:45.000 I didn't know.
00:04:46.000 I've never seen this type of show before.
00:04:47.000 I would have not opted in.
00:04:49.000 I don't like aggressive, going back, insulting each other.
00:04:52.000 I'm a presenter.
00:04:53.000 You know, it's not good for my brand.
00:04:55.000 I don't do that type of stuff.
00:04:57.000 So it's like, when I came here, I was just like, wait, we're going against trans people. 0.99
00:05:03.000 Time's up.
00:05:04.000 Time's up.
00:05:05.000 Time's up.
00:05:06.000 Okay.
00:05:07.000 Time's up.
00:05:08.000 Okay.
00:05:09.000 Time's up.
00:05:10.000 Your time's up, Denalva.
00:05:12.000 Just saying.
00:05:13.000 Okay, let's talk about something else.
00:05:15.000 What was the other thing we were talking about?
00:05:17.000 Oh, we were talking about body.
00:05:18.000 Oh, go ahead, Brittany. 0.99
00:05:19.000 Go ahead.
00:05:20.000 I was just thinking because...
00:05:21.000 I'll give you two minutes.
00:05:22.000 No, I'm good.
00:05:23.000 I feel like it would just be probably, for the viewers and everybody out there, I feel like
00:05:28.000 it would be interesting to hear everyone's perspective on how they feel about the 100th episode
00:05:33.000 and sitting with Andrew Tate and really kind of seeing how his energy is in person.
00:05:38.000 Because a lot of people are most likely never going to meet him.
00:05:41.000 Yeah.
00:05:42.000 So I feel like we all got a chance to kind of see.
00:05:44.000 Yeah, that's a good idea, Brittany.
00:05:45.000 I don't know.
00:05:46.000 So Brittany, why don't you start?
00:05:48.000 What did you think?
00:05:49.000 I felt like he was really polite in person.
00:05:53.000 I didn't expect him to be, like you said, so smiley, very warm.
00:05:58.000 And I will say that I do feel like he is very pretty grounded.
00:06:02.000 He is fair.
00:06:04.000 There are just things, obviously, I just don't agree with about the being agreeable to the point
00:06:09.000 of where it's not your own identity.
00:06:11.000 But I also understood where he was coming from.
00:06:14.000 I understood the perspective.
00:06:15.000 I don't agree.
00:06:16.000 But no, I felt like he was like so different in person.
00:06:19.000 And I feel like that's why you can't really judge people based on that.
00:06:22.000 He was just different.
00:06:23.000 I don't know.
00:06:24.000 Am I tripping?
00:06:25.000 Did you guys feel that way?
00:06:26.000 No, no, no.
00:06:27.000 Mav, why don't you?
00:06:28.000 45 seconds.
00:06:29.000 I actually, I liked him a lot.
00:06:34.000 I remember when he got canceled, I said, the only problem with this guy is the fact that
00:06:38.000 he's exposing certain truths and not providing a solution to those who are suffering from it
00:06:43.040 that's it other than that listen yeah he's better looking in person yes yes i i will i try to hate 0.71
00:06:51.140 on him he's better looking in person he's smiley he's friend he's got high energy he's a good
00:06:55.680 sagittarius sunshine in human form he's actually quite cool i liked him yes yeah i feel like he
00:07:01.160 was a straight talker and you know what i i really rate the way he speaks he really knows how to speak
00:07:10.720 like he will add context and then he'll make his point i think it takes a lot of talent to do that
00:07:16.560 and you can tell he's been doing it for a long time so i have to respect that in him obviously i didn't
00:07:22.540 agree completely with a lot of stuff you were saying because i i feel like he was a bit one-sided
00:07:27.040 where he was talking about what men wants and he wasn't really talking about how to make women
00:07:31.980 happy but i i appreciated that he was also giving us a perspective of a lot of men out there so i did
00:07:39.000 appreciate that but i i just wish we could like explore more about what women want really
00:07:45.720 i just think that society i was always talking about what women want that's a timer i just feel
00:07:54.300 like society's always talking about women what women want and whenever whenever we talk about what
00:07:58.480 men might want like we always need to have a response and it's like why can't we just let the 1.00
00:08:02.980 men talk for a second because like we we there's steve harvey like talks about what women want all the
00:08:08.180 time there's a million different shows um as for andrew tate i was actually so nervous i don't know why
00:08:15.860 like i was yo what i was too i was i was i think i was i kind of think i was a little quieter because
00:08:26.140 i was like i'm just like nervous i don't know why but he was so nice um it was really nice if a lot
00:08:31.480 of people don't know we were supposed to go to do all of us we're supposed to go to dubai
00:08:35.360 uh my passport expires within six months so we couldn't actually like get in i couldn't get in
00:08:40.660 the country uh so he actually came to us which i thought was really like kind of him to come
00:08:45.940 yeah like fly all the way here but yeah he was really nice um i was really nervous but overall
00:08:51.280 i already liked him before i didn't like him the first time i saw him what you see my first very
00:08:57.360 first reaction to him i was actually mean because he had a cheating party and i was like what is this
00:09:03.340 cheating party and i was like he would invite all his girlfriends over at the same time
00:09:09.040 where like all the girls that you would cheat with and like they would just go to the same
00:09:12.480 bar and it was kind of funny but i was like what why would you do that but i didn't understand what
00:09:18.000 but now that i understand his worldview a little bit more i was like oh well that's why yeah he was
00:09:23.060 very i from what the stuff he was saying like beforehand from uh watching kevin samuels uh with pearl
00:09:32.420 it's it opened up um my view on like actually listening to people or listening to what these
00:09:41.100 men are saying instead of just taking a clip and taking for how these people are clipping it and
00:09:46.440 wanting to get their gender across but actually listening to him and i like sat down and like actually
00:09:52.680 listened to some of the stuff that he said beforehand so i was like he the what he is saying
00:09:57.720 is not crazy it's the way he's saying it and people a lot of i was like people and a lot of
00:10:05.360 women don't like the way that he is saying it because it's very like raw like this is it this is how
00:10:10.040 i'm gonna say it i don't care if you don't like the way i'm saying it i'm gonna say it this way
00:10:13.760 and i feel like a lot of people don't like it like that but it's like if you get past what he's
00:10:19.820 like how he's saying it and listen to actually what he is saying it's like oh okay it's not as
00:10:27.300 outrageous as people make it out to be but yeah that's why i actually purposely didn't really go
00:10:33.940 and look at his content and i was like i want to see who he actually is and what his energy is
00:10:39.320 actually saying because i understand the same way that people say oh you created you edited this way
00:10:43.740 to make me look worse it is the same way that it happens to him and realistically he was way more
00:10:48.620 balanced and actually a lot more kind of calming in his presence than what he actually seems online i'm
00:10:55.520 not gonna lie he spoke sense there was a lot of balance in what he said and you know i know
00:11:01.260 people were expecting me to clash with him and i didn't he was cool i liked him it's funny he had
00:11:05.340 a bit of banter as well with his clementines and stuff i think the only thing i didn't agree with
00:11:09.920 was like him talking about a man will cheat like women are delusional like i think that's not a good
00:11:15.500 message if they have the opportunity too they will if they have like the it's okay okay i'll give you an
00:11:20.640 example even a good man would have a hard time being in tiger woods positions having a position
00:11:27.120 having a bus full of models waiting for him that are trying to fuck him every single day 1.00
00:11:32.160 it's like even a good like my dad i'll give you he's top one percent doesn't cheat but my dad doesn't
00:11:39.320 have social media and he doesn't have beautiful models waiting for him every day after work i think
00:11:46.320 that would be hard for even a good man to to say no to like even my dad if he was in a position
00:11:51.980 where beautiful women are trying to do that every single day that's hard that's really hard for a 1.00
00:11:57.480 guy get approached as well in fact right true true true true but it's not usually it's not usually by
00:12:03.680 men you want it would i would also argue i would also argue that it would be hard for a woman to stay 1.00
00:12:09.560 faithful if every day she was approached by high value men so but yeah like you've been in that
00:12:15.640 position it's yeah it's if every day you're getting messages from like the top men in society
00:12:22.180 i i think that's hard for women to turn down we're hypergamous so it's not really about the quantity of
00:12:29.960 men that approach you it's the quality just morally i think everybody knows that cheating is wrong
00:12:35.480 you know like tate even said it himself when a woman cheats on a man the pain that he feels
00:12:41.820 so they know it's wrong innately but they think that they have that path to do it because i'm a man
00:12:48.180 i'm a high value man and it's like do you know that pain that you felt she feels that it's yeah no i
00:12:54.200 and i i agree with you i've i've i've been cheated on it was really hard but but at the end of the day
00:12:59.660 it's just not the same because like at the end of the day like i could get past it because i
00:13:05.440 was like you know what it was just a random it wasn't like he wasn't in love with her but like
00:13:09.920 the way we would feel if a man was in love with someone else that's how men feel about us cheating
00:13:14.580 on them sexually like there's just uh do you think it's because there's just like how do i want to
00:13:20.860 say this do you think it's because men are weaker in that department to where it's like oh you can't
00:13:27.080 even i can't believe you had sex with guys before you even met me because that's my pussy you know 1.00
00:13:31.400 what i mean like i almost feel like it's because there's such a gap in where women really are and 0.94
00:13:36.240 where men are emotionally and mentally i no i just think it's like men and we can't undo biology
00:13:42.600 right so like we can't undo the thousands of years of biology and how how did you pass on your genes to
00:13:48.240 the next generation for women it was getting the best man that they possibly could the strongest 0.99
00:13:53.160 tallest biggest highest status because then your kid would survive that meant he could protect you
00:13:58.540 he could pass on resources to you and your kid would be strong and would be able to protect itself
00:14:03.420 for like vice versa for men it was i don't want to pass on resources to a kid that's not mine
00:14:09.960 so it was i can't have a promiscuous woman because the kid might not be mine my genes might not even get 1.00
00:14:16.800 yeah my genes might not get passed out so even though like we're in 2022 and we have like different
00:14:22.100 things that offset this stuff you can't undo our biology but i also think it's accountability
00:14:27.220 i think like britney was saying tate you're literally like the male version of me and you're
00:14:35.300 praised and i'm shamed i think it's because we are not holding these men accountable like you would say
00:14:41.900 you basically called britney a hoe before you met her that is so unfair and i think if we started to 0.73
00:14:48.080 say no britney not just britney in that situation not calling you a hoe or anything not in that situation 0.84
00:14:53.200 say tate's a hoe britney's a hoe actually hold each other accountable and it's just it's just 0.99
00:15:01.100 but here's here's the thing like on the other side on the other side when you were what what was the
00:15:06.940 first time you got messaged by someone with a blue check mark or like any attention probably when i was
00:15:11.820 like 2021 okay 2021 she got the world at her fingertips like just just by being beautiful right
00:15:19.300 she can get messaged from like the top men in society it's not the same for men when a man's 0.76
00:15:24.500 2021 no woman's checking for him maybe maybe a very select few but even even if they're very good
00:15:31.220 looking like they're not they're not getting shit from rich girls no but what i'm what i'm saying is 0.55
00:15:36.300 the men are getting those women like actually saying that it's because it's not right at the end of
00:15:41.520 the cheating is wrong men or women biology or not it's wrong and i think if we actually start to say
00:15:47.340 you know what this man has got three baby mamas you're fucking ridiculous you're playing with 0.87
00:15:51.620 and here's the thing is it's such okay it's such a who who's at fault when most 80 percent of women 1.00
00:15:59.420 90 percent of women are sexually active but only roughly five to ten percent of guys can do what
00:16:05.140 you're saying so it's with the women are more promiscuous than the men it's like the problem 1.00
00:16:09.380 you're talking about is so minuscule it's so small like maybe 20 percent of men can women are more
00:16:16.120 promiscuous you're the reason why men cheat still why are you cutting it off though women women have 1.00
00:16:20.360 more sexual partners now what are you doing i'm coming for you today now i'm your auntie jenny trust 0.64
00:16:24.880 me you swore at me this respect i did way too much i did not accept disrespect why are you doing this
00:16:29.620 is why men will cheat because somebody's talking to you and you're still cutting them off for no reason
00:16:34.020 pal please continue so it doesn't even need to be high value but do you do what i'm saying so i'm saying
00:16:38.600 like okay they're predicting that 45 percent of women will be single and childless that's that's so much so 0.98
00:16:44.460 that the big banks are predicting this these women that are going to be single and childless and are 0.99
00:16:49.120 on the path to that it's not like they're not sexually active they're probably sleeping with
00:16:52.600 someone there's not a plethora of virgins around that are women but there is one in three men under
00:16:57.760 30 are virgins so who's more promiscuous if the women aren't virgins the body counts are getting higher 1.00
00:17:04.100 the the and where on the other hand men it's a very small percentage that can actually get sex and
00:17:10.980 father a bunch of kids so that's why i say like i know tate tries to he's he's like don't make it
00:17:15.900 he said she said but but just by and large it's more on the women because one we're in control of sex 1.00
00:17:21.300 we pick who we sleep with and we're more sexually active than them in a sense i agree because on
00:17:27.140 average yes you're right um women are having sex a lot more however when we're talking about 1.00
00:17:33.200 promiscuity men have three times more sexual partners than women so when men have i think it's
00:17:40.960 like 24 and um where did you see that the last the last i checked it google it right now i made sure
00:17:47.400 because i thought my research before coming back i was like okay i need i need to know so if if that's
00:17:52.600 true again it goes back to the prado principle right so let's say the average number is higher for
00:17:57.760 for men typically it's because the top five twenty percent even we'll even say thirty percent of men
00:18:03.760 let's give them thirty like they they sleep with 50 60 100 150 girls but one out of three are virgins 1.00
00:18:09.740 or haven't had sex in the past year historically have historically exactly that's why i agree with
00:18:14.120 that but that's why i'm saying like by and large women are sleeping with a very small percentage of 1.00
00:18:18.920 men but like how many percentage are ruining it for the other men so they keep sleeping with so many 1.00
00:18:25.340 women they're ruining it for the okay okay okay okay so actually it's that harsh you could argue 1.00
00:18:31.100 that but you could also say it's more on the women because we're in control of sex most men like if
00:18:37.100 you went to a biological level their biology is to sleep with whoever they can right by like most men 0.98
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