JustPearlyThings - This Eliminates Women from wife category

00:00:00.000 With modern women, the epidemic is that even with birth control, we're getting more abortions than ever. 1.00

00:00:09.420 If a girl gets an abortion, does that take her out of the wife category? 1.00

00:00:13.820 100%.

00:00:14.380 Why?

00:00:15.200 Million percent. 0.52

00:00:16.840 Million percent. 0.52

00:00:18.360 Complete moral misalignment.

00:00:20.300 Okay.

00:00:21.380 Why?

00:00:22.420 But Zuby, it's a fetus.

00:00:25.580 No, I'm very, very strongly pro-life.

00:00:27.620 Tell me why.

00:00:28.320 No, absolutely not.

00:00:29.460 Tell you why?

00:00:30.320 Yeah, yeah, why?

00:00:31.360 A woman who can happily kill her own child? 1.00

00:00:35.980 If she was a victim of grape.

00:00:38.220 Yeah, exactly.

00:00:39.560 That's less than, that's fewer than 1%.

00:00:41.720 It's fewer than 1%, so let's talk about the 99%. 0.66

00:00:45.540 Why is it that whenever a dude makes a point, we always got to bring up the exception as women?

00:00:50.820 It's not even a common exception.

00:00:52.600 That's not a common thing for women to experience. 1.00

00:00:54.780 No, it's not.

00:00:55.740 No, it's not.

00:00:56.360 What grape is.

00:00:57.000 It happens, but it's not common.

00:00:58.320 It's not common.

00:00:59.380 It's not common.

00:00:59.460 It's not a grape.

00:01:00.040 It's not necessarily pregnancy for grape, but grape in general is.

00:01:03.380 No, it's not.

00:01:04.300 No, it's not.

00:01:04.580 That's my job.

00:01:05.280 I deal with them clients every single day of the week.

00:01:06.920 What's the percentage looking like?

00:01:08.240 I think that's because that's your job.

00:01:11.000 That's your job, so you get to see them a concentration.

00:01:13.640 But if you look in the whole of the UK, you see that it's a minority.

00:01:17.740 I bet everyone in this room is in there.

00:01:19.520 No, I'm saying if you look at stats, that's not true.

00:01:22.320 It's not the majority of women. 1.00

00:01:23.300 It's actually a very small percentage.

00:01:25.320 Because otherwise, we're just going off of he said, she said, and she can say anything.

00:01:28.800 If it was a majority, then most of these women in this room would be living in it. 1.00

00:01:30.880 Oh, no, I'm not saying the majority of women have experienced grape.

00:01:33.140 I'm saying there's quite a large percentage of women that have experienced it.

00:01:37.040 But not statistically.

00:01:40.080 It's not the large majority.

00:01:42.280 It's a very small minority.

00:01:44.280 I'm not going to lie to you, yeah?

00:01:45.740 Just being super real and understanding about the life that we're trying to live now and what the status of the world is.

00:01:54.060 I mean, as long as you're willing to deal with the consequences of your choices, my friend, save yourself and save your child.

00:02:00.660 Because sometimes you get into an accident with somebody that is definitely not the man that you need to be having a child with.

00:02:07.160 And you're definitely not in the right space of mind.

00:02:09.340 So instead of you putting a child into your chaotic world, just be more responsible.

00:02:15.140 Kill it and save it.

00:02:15.620 It's not kill it, but before it gets to a stage where it's super gone, at the end of the day, now you've got the option of taking a little bit of control.

00:02:24.520 If that puts bad energy into the universe, deal with the consequences.

00:02:27.460 But at the end of the day, you'd rather do that than to bring a traumatized child into the world.

00:02:32.540 I would like to hear zoomies.

00:02:33.680 I actually have a question.

00:02:35.080 Do you think that poor kids are less valuable than rich kids?

00:02:38.300 Because when you think about it, we're all rich.

00:02:40.400 Because most people in all of human history have been poor.

00:02:42.780 Even poor people are richer than most people were in all of history.

00:02:45.620 I would say that that's definitely not true because I'm African.

00:02:50.460 I know what it means to be poor and still be happy and still be privileged and blessed.

00:02:55.440 What I do mean is, for example, there are people that are just not in the best state of mind or even in a relationship that could be supportive of bringing a healthy citizen into this world.

00:03:05.100 And then, if people don't have this sort of control, it gets to a stage where everybody's going to be messed up because their parents are making mistakes.

00:03:11.760 At the end of the day, instead of us judging abortions, let's just first deal with sexual education, sexual discipline, and then we can avoid abortions.

00:03:18.700 Other than that, what do you mean?

00:03:20.360 We're talking about taking a human life here.

00:03:22.480 No, we're talking about taking control of something that actually hasn't got to that stage yet.

00:03:26.580 It depends on how you feel about it.

00:03:28.080 It's not feelings.

00:03:29.240 You can sugarcoat it how you want.

00:03:31.760 It's the taking of an innocent human life.

00:03:33.640 Of course it is.

00:03:34.120 Can I just quite.

00:03:34.800 That's literally what it is.

00:03:36.320 To an extent.

00:03:36.580 It depends on how emotional you feel about it.

00:03:39.900 You can have your feelings about it.

00:03:41.560 I'm just saying that's literally what it is.

00:03:43.280 Let's move away from euphemisms and feelings.

00:03:45.120 That is what it is.

00:03:46.440 Right.

00:03:46.760 Can I just say something?

00:03:47.420 Yes.

00:03:49.040 To both women together.

00:03:51.060 When I first came to the show, remember I said to you, there's not a situation that I haven't experienced.

00:03:56.780 You remember I said that two ages ago.

00:03:58.860 Now, I was in a relationship.

00:04:00.780 I was young.

00:04:01.440 I was 16.

00:04:03.000 And I wouldn't say I got put into a relationship, a very abusive relationship.

00:04:08.820 And I had a child through grape.

00:04:13.020 I was 17.

00:04:14.720 I was on the pill.

00:04:16.900 So 17, I couldn't say I had loads of money because I was still living at home.

00:04:21.640 And as far as I'm concerned, I had my child.

00:04:24.840 At 17 years old.

00:04:26.340 No money.

00:04:27.660 And I worked.

00:04:28.680 And I kept my child.

00:04:30.100 And when everybody keeps on talking about grape and abuse, yes, Pearl, I did report it.

00:04:34.960 Right.

00:04:35.580 I had it down.

00:04:36.560 Injunctions and everything.

00:04:37.920 I still got my child.

00:04:40.560 Everybody was against it because in those days I brought shame on the family.

00:04:45.640 But nobody knew why I had my child.

00:04:48.440 And to this day, I've still got one child.

00:04:51.520 Because I was only able to have one child.

00:04:55.180 And because I don't believe in abortion.

00:04:57.480 And I was a foster carer.

00:04:59.120 And I fostered and looked after 10 children as a single parent.

00:05:03.560 And I don't care how poor you are.

00:05:05.740 I don't care what situation you're in.

00:05:08.020 Unless your life is in danger, I still don't believe in abortion.

00:05:12.460 Can I say something to your auntie?

00:05:13.340 And I was on the pill.

00:05:15.080 There's a thing.

00:05:16.100 There's certain people.

00:05:17.760 It's just like a luck of the draw.

00:05:19.460 There's people that are extremely blessed.

00:05:21.100 That the situation and they're actually blessed with a mother that will take care of you from whatever situation.

00:05:25.920 Make you be a wholesome human being.

00:05:27.720 And show you all the love.

00:05:28.740 On the flip side, there are people that then go on to abuse their children because they don't know any better.

00:05:32.840 There are people that go to neglect their children because they're not in a supportive relationship.

00:05:36.480 Or because they can't handle it.

00:05:37.920 But why can't?

00:05:39.680 Sorry, girl.

00:05:40.400 Did you hear what I said?

00:05:41.380 I said I was a foster carer.

00:05:43.100 I was a foster carer and I fostered 10 children.

00:05:47.300 Those children you're talking about.

00:05:49.560 And they had better lives for it.

00:05:51.240 Because you're a good person and they got lucky to have you.

00:05:53.300 And I only fostered children primary school age.

00:05:56.320 So I had children that had been abused physically and sexually at that age.

00:06:01.880 So nobody can't give me the excuse.

00:06:04.080 I mean, that's your opinion.

00:06:05.260 I'm giving you my experience.

00:06:07.140 So as far as I'm concerned,

00:06:08.380 if the care system that allows these women to have the children, 0.99

00:06:13.180 that allows these women to have abortions, 1.00

00:06:15.080 that also allow these women to have the children and hand them over to responsible people 1.00

00:06:21.740 that will look after and nurture and care for those children rather than murder them. 0.99

00:06:26.020 Because people murder their children too often.

00:06:30.020 And then those who don't get murdered, I look after.

00:06:33.120 I look after, I raise, I nurture, and I look after them.

00:06:37.480 And I'm sure there's African children, Indian children, white children out there that I fostered,

00:06:42.540 that have been to university, being models and having good, stable lives because of me.

00:06:48.000 So I'd rather, even at my age now, I would rather look after somebody else's child.

00:06:55.340 I've looked after children that have been sexually abused at two and three years old.

00:07:00.740 I have had them.

00:07:02.000 And I'd rather have them knowing that I looked after them than they got murdered.

00:07:07.840 And as far as I'm concerned, it's not these children.

00:07:11.900 It's society, and if the people are messed up, people are going, they're having sexual lessons in school.

00:07:19.760 They don't teach them parenting lessons, skills like cooking skills, managing money.

00:07:25.340 And that's what the people need.

00:07:27.400 Because there's no poverty.

00:07:28.700 I'm going to be the one to say, there's no poverty in England.

00:07:31.480 In England, you get paid to have children.

00:07:33.580 It's the parents and the people that have the money that are mismanaging it.

00:07:37.280 So rather than go out there and say, oh, this is a poor person, look at what they're doing.

00:07:42.740 Manage their money.

00:07:43.700 Because I guarantee you, those children who come from those households, look, the parents are smoking.

00:07:50.220 They can afford to smoke.

00:07:51.600 They can afford smart screen TV.

00:07:54.160 They can afford jewelry.

00:07:55.540 The children have got all the latest phones and tablets and everything.

00:07:58.820 But yet they're going to say there's poverty because they have no food.

00:08:02.300 They have no clothes.

00:08:03.340 It's not to do with the government.

00:08:04.940 It's to do with them managing their money.

00:08:07.060 So as far as I'm concerned, no child deserves to be killed unless the mother's going to die. 1.00

00:08:13.120 May I say something, Auntie?

00:08:14.600 I appreciate what you're saying.

00:08:15.860 It's a very touchy topic because obviously it's sensitive.

00:08:21.180 I believe that children, to me, are one of the purest things in the world.

00:08:25.340 And if it gets to a stage where actually you have a choice, either terminate this life right here, right now, the energy is still in the world, the energy still exists.

00:08:32.900 But terminate it now instead of a lot of playing with chance of letting a child go into the system and become an extremely wounded human being.

00:08:41.260 I'd rather do the other because you'll go to a better place.

00:08:43.700 The same way I believe in euthanasia is the same way I believe in abortion.

00:08:46.620 Oh, gosh.

00:08:47.280 See, that's different because I don't believe in any form of murder.

00:08:52.000 So that's why we're always going to differ.

00:08:53.600 That's why we're always going to agree.

00:08:55.500 Anyway, I answered the question, right?

00:08:59.800 No, no, no.

00:09:00.320 I wanted to hear the rest of what you had to say, Zuby.

00:09:02.020 I didn't hear your opinion.

00:09:03.020 Yeah.

00:09:03.280 Finish your opinion.

00:09:04.040 Yeah.

00:09:04.260 Well, like, we wouldn't work, right?

00:09:06.500 So that's the answer to the question.

00:09:08.220 Very clearly.

00:09:09.060 That's a complete moral misalignment.

00:09:10.060 That's why I said maybe to you.

00:09:12.000 I already knew it.

00:09:13.000 It's a complete moral misalignment, right?

00:09:14.900 Of course.

00:09:15.280 Like, everything you just said there, that's freaking horrifying to me.

00:09:17.420 Zuby, can I ask?

00:09:18.180 And I'm not disagreeing with you, Zuby.

00:09:19.680 Can I ask why you don't?

00:09:21.660 Support killing people?

00:09:22.520 Yeah, well, I used to be a crip, so I'm with you.

00:09:25.920 But can I support why you don't?

00:09:28.860 I just want to know.

00:09:30.820 I don't get to talk to people that have always varying different opinions all the time.

00:09:34.940 Sure.

00:09:35.220 Because we live in echo chambers.

00:09:36.480 Of course.

00:09:36.840 So I'm very interested.

00:09:38.260 And not that I disagree.

00:09:39.440 I'm very interested in why you don't believe in abortion outside of the killing people.

00:09:44.300 Because we kill people with tons of other things.

00:09:46.180 Sure.

00:09:46.440 But what is the thing about abortion?

00:09:48.100 Very simple.

00:09:48.680 I think it is wrong to intentionally terminate an innocent human life.

00:09:53.280 Yeah.

00:09:53.740 Period.

00:09:54.140 That's it.

00:09:55.140 Period.

00:09:55.740 It doesn't matter how old...

00:09:57.060 I think it's a crime to corrupt an innocent human life.

00:09:59.160 Why?

00:09:59.280 It doesn't matter how old...

00:09:59.720 Can I just say, if I'd had an abortion, I would never have been able to have another

00:10:03.460 child again.

00:10:04.120 And I would have been childless.

00:10:05.840 And I was on the pill.

00:10:07.320 So I would have never had a child again.

00:10:09.000 And you know what?

00:10:10.020 When I got pregnant, I actually told...

00:10:12.120 I had an old aunt.

00:10:13.580 Well, she was, you know, like auntie.

00:10:15.460 And I went to her and I said to her...

00:10:17.240 Two people I told first.

00:10:18.160 My stepdad and that aunt.

00:10:21.440 And I went to her and I said...

00:10:23.800 Explained to her.

00:10:24.460 I said, I'm pregnant.

00:10:25.620 And she sat me down.

00:10:27.200 And she said...

00:10:27.840 And this is in the old days.

00:10:28.900 And she said, Jennifer...

00:10:30.180 She said, I've been seeing this married man for years.

00:10:34.300 And you know, like when you get them women back in the day that that was their woman. 0.94

00:10:37.360 And she said, I got pregnant.

00:10:40.020 She goes.

00:10:40.520 And he said to me, it's either me or the child.

00:10:46.120 And this man was everything to her.

00:10:48.160 Her world took her out.

00:10:49.720 They went places.

00:10:50.980 And she said, I decided to choose my child.

00:10:54.280 And she said to me, when I was having the child, there were complications.

00:10:57.680 And she said, I'll never be able to have another child.

00:11:00.580 And she's only got one son.

00:11:02.200 She goes to me, have your child. 1.00

00:11:03.740 And exactly what happened to her happened to me.

00:11:06.260 And I got the one child.

00:11:08.040 Well, I'm not going to lie.

00:11:09.840 I can sympathize when I speak for you.

00:11:11.600 And I want sympathy.

00:11:12.480 I, I, I, I too was in a very complicated relationship.

00:11:16.840 I'll put it as that.

00:11:18.300 And I was in that same situation.

00:11:20.400 And I just determined.

00:11:21.620 Do you know why?

00:11:22.400 Because I said, listen, I would rather take that risk and to create, do that for my child.

00:11:26.900 Because this person is definitely not going to be a good father to my child.

00:11:29.140 I already vetted the situation.

00:11:30.840 And if it gets to a point where I can't have any children, I'll do an alternative.

00:11:33.940 I will bless other souls and give my love and my energy to somebody that is not even my child.

00:11:38.260 Regardless of whatever happens, whether I can have children or not, I'll still bless people.

00:11:42.300 I'll still give love.

00:11:43.260 I will still be able to be a mother.

00:11:44.560 Even if biologically that was my, not meant to be my destiny.

00:11:47.500 That's it.

00:11:47.920 You can always find alternatives to things.

00:11:49.920 But one thing that I believe that we should do is ensure that whatever energy we put into or whatever children we are raising,

00:11:55.960 we're going to put them in a situation where they can be better human beings.

00:11:58.840 Otherwise, society is going to do whatever.

00:12:00.960 That's why situations now are what they are.

00:12:03.140 In England, it's very easy, like for people to have children when they're teenagers.

00:12:06.400 Look at how everybody is acting now.

00:12:08.320 It's very easy.

00:12:09.220 The majority of abortions are not from teenagers.

00:12:11.320 No.

00:12:11.560 It's actually from women. 0.60

00:12:12.520 No, and what I'm saying is in the UK, I think the UK is actually the country in Europe that has the highest rate of teenage pregnancy.

00:12:19.220 And you can see actually how that's affecting society.

00:12:22.260 There needs to be a certain way of controlling this type of, I would say, unhealed, traumatized kind of DNA to keep passing on.

00:12:31.060 If you're not ready to have a child and you can recognize that, you have a choice to either make the situations worse for you and affect an innocent child,

00:12:38.380 or take the chance now and make it better.

00:12:40.760 And if it means you don't have kids again, save somebody else's child, go foster, go adopt.

00:12:45.420 There's too many people that are needing your love for it.

00:12:46.960 Why don't you give it up for adoption?

00:12:49.280 Because giving it up for adoption, you're putting your child in a situation where actually you can fall on either side of statistics.

00:12:54.940 Either you're going to be with an angel person or you're going to be with a devil that's going to physically abuse you, sexually abuse you, and put you into a system.

00:13:01.140 Why does your mind always go to the worst possible scenario?

00:13:03.560 It goes on to both.

00:13:04.360 No, but I'm saying I could think of many situations where adoption worked out really well.

00:13:10.420 Me too.

00:13:10.920 Like my mom got pregnant when she was 17 and she could have thought, you know, my life was over and she gave that kid up for adoption.

00:13:17.520 He just got married.

00:13:18.360 He has a kid now.

00:13:19.180 He grew up with a completely different family.

00:13:20.840 Well, it's good.

00:13:21.600 Yeah.

00:13:22.040 And fortunately for you, see the good.

00:13:24.860 Unfortunately, on my side where actually because I'm even from my demographic where I come from, what I see and what is actually a lot of what I feel like is the masses.

00:13:33.380 Most of the people that I know that are in those situations come from very hard stories and backgrounds.

00:13:38.700 And when they speak to me, I can see how damaged they are and how much pain they still feel now because not everybody's even equipped to learn how to heal themselves.

00:13:46.860 So it's either we're going to create this.

00:13:49.260 But they're alive.

00:13:50.320 But they're alive, but they're still suffering.

00:13:52.060 And this is the thing.

00:13:52.760 They're alive.

00:13:53.160 For example, I'll give you an example.

00:13:55.000 One of my friends, my sister, she had a friend.

00:13:57.520 She, her parents abused her. 0.88

00:13:59.020 Her stepdad sexually abused her.

00:14:00.680 She was on drugs. 0.95

00:14:01.380 She was 16.

00:14:02.340 And actually she had an accident and she died.

00:14:05.800 And the friends were all very upset.

00:14:07.400 And they were all really, really sad and they cried and everything.

00:14:09.780 But amongst them, they said, you know what?

00:14:11.540 Actually, I feel like she's in a better place because this world was not treating her right.

00:14:15.060 Her situation was making her more depressed.

00:14:16.740 And people are living by suffering.

00:14:18.480 They're not living to live.

00:14:19.640 Wait, I think this is dark.

00:14:20.400 Can I ask just quickly, are you religious?

00:14:23.160 I'm spiritual.

00:14:24.240 You're spiritual.

00:14:25.340 I think that's a big part of it.

00:14:27.100 I think what's happening now is, I don't know, Zuby, if you're religious.

00:14:30.460 We're both religious.

00:14:31.560 Okay, so this is.

00:14:32.660 I'm religious, but my argument's not coming.

00:14:34.620 Right, but I'm not saying that it is, Zuby. 0.99

00:14:36.600 I'm not saying, because I'm spiritual.

00:14:38.520 I don't know what the fuck I am.

00:14:39.800 But I'm not saying that it is.

00:14:40.880 What I'm saying is, I think a big part of it is a lot of times, like I don't believe in abortion,

00:14:47.380 but I do not also think that I have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

00:14:52.300 So what I think, not that you guys are this, but I think a big part of it is that you, a lot of times,

00:15:00.120 I have aunts and people who are very religious, life is suffering to them. 1.00

00:15:03.260 That's what is one of the things.

00:15:05.540 And I think what you're arguing, no offense to you or anybody, I think it's very different than what she's saying.

00:15:11.440 I think it's very two different points.

00:15:13.120 I agree with Zuby.

00:15:15.020 I agree with auntie for the most part, both of you guys.

00:15:17.680 And I also agree with you, like I just said.

00:15:19.780 But I think what you're getting at is from your personal experience in life and what you've been through

00:15:26.220 and how you came out of that experience versus auntie and Zuby and Pearl are coming from a different,

00:15:34.620 Pearl's talking about she had a relative who was a sibling who was raised in a wonderful world because they were adopted.

00:15:41.740 I think you're coming from your personal experiences of what you've seen.

00:15:45.600 There's two sides.

00:15:46.260 There's dark sides and there's good sides.

00:15:48.040 Of course, but that's life.

00:15:49.680 I'm not coming from any perspective of experience.

00:15:53.740 No, not you, Zuby. 0.93

00:15:54.740 I'm saying from her.

00:15:55.540 I'm saying not you.

00:15:56.280 I'm just saying in general.

00:15:57.860 I don't think it's a religious thing.

00:15:59.840 No, it's not a religious thing.

00:16:00.860 I'm just saying in my head, I go, I just want to know if she would say she was spiritual or religious

00:16:04.980 because nine times I'm saying this is just my personal experience.

00:16:08.060 When I talk to spiritual or not really religious people, they lean towards her more

00:16:13.440 and the religious people lean towards this.

00:16:15.380 But on both sides, it happens.

00:16:18.040 But what I'm saying is, Pearl, you're saying you had a sibling raised beautifully out of adoption.

00:16:24.260 Zuby's saying he doesn't believe in abortion.

00:16:26.080 It's taking a human life.

00:16:26.960 Auntie's saying the same thing.

00:16:28.260 This young woman is saying a very different thing, but it's based in her personal experience

00:16:32.460 and life and so on and so forth, which is okay.

00:16:35.860 I'm just saying I don't believe in abortion, but at the same time, I don't think I can tell

00:16:40.840 a woman or anybody what to do with their person.

00:16:43.540 So I'm in this weird place of it.

00:16:45.280 You're comfortable telling someone not to kill someone, though, right?

00:16:47.700 Yeah.

00:16:49.040 Well, it depends on if it was a gun.

00:16:51.380 Yes and no.

00:16:51.880 That's a different podcast topic.

00:16:53.640 I'm comfortable telling people not to, but I'm not at liberty to say that I shouldn't be.

00:16:57.420 We're talking about an innocent life.

00:16:59.380 We're not talking about...

00:16:59.980 Okay, so you mean an innocent...

00:17:01.420 So for me, I'm saying from my background, I can't tell somebody not to kill someone.

00:17:06.720 I mean, I think...

00:17:07.720 But for an innocent life, Zuby, I agree with you.

00:17:10.820 I agree with you.

00:17:11.600 Can anyone else comment on whether they would...

00:17:13.820 Because I was actually quite interested.

00:17:14.600 Yeah, go for it, please.

00:17:15.920 No, I wanted to hear what you would...

00:17:18.940 Oh, why are you bringing me up, bro?

00:17:21.480 2.0.

00:17:22.360 To be honest, yeah.

00:17:23.360 I hear what everyone's saying.

00:17:25.060 Everyone has got a reasonable standpoint for what they're saying.

00:17:31.060 But me personally, I've done a TikTok where I said, for instance, at one point, broke people

00:17:37.560 shouldn't be having kids because you bring kids into a life of struggle and hardship.

00:17:41.700 Do you get what I'm saying?

00:17:42.500 I think, especially someone like me who came from a background of struggle and hardship,

00:17:48.540 like wearing hand-me-downs and all of this and getting laughed and bullied and all of that

00:17:52.620 and stuff like that.

00:17:55.100 Some people are just not meant to have kids, bro.

00:17:57.600 And your case is just mild.

00:17:58.920 You know this, isn't it?

00:17:59.980 What's that?

00:18:00.260 What you're talking about saying that you came from hardship.

00:18:02.060 Yours is mild in comparison to what's happening out there.

00:18:03.400 Yeah, mild.

00:18:03.860 I'm just saying from my experience, isn't it?

00:18:06.260 And from what I've seen, I've got friends that, boom, their parents were crackheads.

00:18:11.380 Do you get what I'm saying?

00:18:12.040 They just were waste men, waste women, whatever, and they've just been freestyling through life 1.00

00:18:17.440 and their life has been hardship.

00:18:18.900 So I get where you're coming from, 100%.

00:18:21.220 I get where you're coming from because I came, again, my mum, very, very hard Pentecostal

00:18:26.860 church, Nigerian woman, bro, no messing around, innit? 1.00

00:18:30.760 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:18:31.160 So I get where you're coming from and where Zuby's coming from. 0.95

00:18:34.420 It's an innocent life, but it's just like, bro, at the end of the day, everyone's going

00:18:38.660 to have to answer for their own actions at the end of the day.

00:18:41.220 I can't judge somebody and say, oh, why did you do that?

00:18:44.500 Like, bro, I don't know their situation.

00:18:46.680 But some people know that, bro, if I have a kid, I'm going to mess this kid's life up,

00:18:50.860 bro.

00:18:51.420 You know what I'm saying?

00:18:52.080 So I have a question.

00:18:54.480 Do you think, and this is kind of to both of you, do you think that poor people are less

00:18:58.420 valuable than rich people?

00:18:59.620 Because when you, a lot of people don't know this, but that's a common argument that people

00:19:04.620 use for eugenics. 0.77

00:19:06.280 It's not about poverty.

00:19:07.080 So basically, so basically that, that poor people should be eradicated. 1.00

00:19:10.920 And in some of like the founders of Planned Parenthood, which is more of a, it's more of

00:19:15.640 a U.S. organization.

00:19:16.860 Like that was what they were fighting for was eugenics, which is like basically poor people 0.99

00:19:21.660 should die.

00:19:22.420 Same with like minorities. 1.00

00:19:23.520 No, it's not about poverty, it's about trauma, it's about trauma, it's about passing on unhealed

00:19:29.400 souls that are going to then go, because hurt people hurt people.

00:19:32.120 Do you think, do you think that we're spoiled?

00:19:33.700 Because even like people that are in like the lowest income bracket now, they're still richer

00:19:38.740 than most people were in all of human history.

00:19:40.800 And so then like, because without that logic, then everyone pretty much should have died all

00:19:44.520 the time.

00:19:44.860 Now, this is the thing, like, I'll tell you something, I grew up privileged, then my dad passed

00:19:49.120 away, my life turned around, and I came to England, and all of a sudden I went from

00:19:52.260 being up there to being down here and being the poor kid, but none of that situation changed

00:19:56.500 my happiness because my mom is a loving woman who did everything to make sure that we were 0.88

00:20:01.360 happy and we were okay.

00:20:02.360 We didn't have all the money, and yet all her support and love got me to be a woman that

00:20:05.660 I am today.

00:20:06.660 I'm grateful for that.

00:20:07.660 On the flip side, I have friends that went through similar things or completely different

00:20:11.620 situations where their parents were not equipped to give them the love and the support that

00:20:15.320 they needed to be wholesome human beings, wholesome adults that can actually lead a life responsibly

00:20:21.360 and not have to have those traumas that are getting them to get themselves in trouble.

00:20:25.780 That's why people go, that's why a lot of black people go to prison. 1.00

00:20:28.460 Okay, so next question.

00:20:29.460 Do you, where, where's the cutoff then?

00:20:31.460 Like where should abortion be legal?

00:20:33.460 What about, what about nine months?

00:20:35.460 No, I feel like that's just too long.

00:20:37.560 Okay, okay, okay, so what point?

00:20:39.560 It's like, I would say probably to the point where the brain starts to develop because once

00:20:43.720 the brain starts to develop properly, then that's when the life, like the more consciousness

00:20:49.520 starts to go, when you're actually picking up a lot of the signals from the outside where

00:20:53.640 your, the, the fetus turns into actually something that's aware, yeah, aware, yeah, that's it.

00:20:59.420 Brain waves are what, about six weeks?

00:21:01.360 Six, so you would say six weeks?

00:21:03.560 Well, that's still not developed enough, that's just brain waves.

00:21:06.520 No, you, you said the brain, yeah.

00:21:08.160 This is the thing, once your brain, there's different stages to it, so when, when the brain

00:21:11.980 is development, developing, there's brain waves, and then there's other things that will

00:21:16.040 you receive certain information, it depends on the level of information that, that brain

00:21:19.740 can now process.

00:21:21.220 Okay, so what level of information?

00:21:23.280 Well, I would say probably the cut-off point at three to four months is actually quite good,

00:21:27.080 and I know they go up to six months.

00:21:29.760 Yeah, it's six months in the UK, and after six months, if there is any, even a minor disability,

00:21:36.740 such as a cleft palate, or something, you know, something that minor, there's no limit.

00:21:42.400 That's a current rule.

00:21:43.300 In Canada, there's no limit, period.

00:21:45.160 Many states in the US, there's no limit.

00:21:46.900 Can I just add, like, with the question you asked before last night,

00:21:49.520 at the end of the day, my mindset to it, it's not about poor people being less valuable.

00:21:54.700 Like, that's not even what we're talking about, what I'm talking about.

00:21:57.240 What I'm saying is that at the end of the day, if you know you're living, and this is

00:22:01.640 a very common thing, yeah, a lot of times, people who are living in struggle and poverty,

00:22:07.180 who can't even look after themselves, they're just fucking. 0.94

00:22:10.200 Yeah.

00:22:10.560 Like, they have nothing else going on, and they're fucking, and they bring, 0.98

00:22:13.620 hold on, let me just say this, bro, like, yeah, and then they just bring,

00:22:17.660 they just having kids, bro, like, you could, just go outside, you're going to see people

00:22:22.180 pushing prams, and like, they have nothing going on, and their kids, bro, a lot of these

00:22:26.860 kids, what happens to them? 0.95

00:22:28.500 Join gangs, crime, they go prison, end up in the ground, whatever, bro.

00:22:33.820 Like, so, like, all of these other fairy tales, oh, yeah, maybe they're going to end up being,

00:22:37.820 those, yeah, it happens, but bro, it's rare, really and truly, majority of them are going

00:22:42.520 to end up fucked up. 0.98

00:22:43.460 But those actually aren't the women getting abortions, only 8% of women below the poverty 0.78

00:22:47.020 line are getting abortions, where one out of three women that make over $47,000 per 1.00

00:22:50.580 year are actually getting abortions.

00:22:51.480 No, but basically, your question was about the people that was in poverty, that's who I'm

00:22:55.620 addressing.

00:22:55.820 Well, yeah, but I'm saying, like, like, those, like, I'm saying, when you argue that, like,

00:23:00.920 you're basically, like, you might not mean it like that, but when you're arguing that

00:23:04.920 those people should get abortions, you're basically saying that poor people should never write

00:23:08.460 to that.

00:23:08.680 I've never said poor people shouldn't get abortions, though. 1.00

00:23:11.380 For example, yeah, you are, like, let's say 25, you go to the club, and you meet this

00:23:17.460 asshole, but he's hot, and you decide to have a more night stand. 0.95

00:23:20.620 I know, you decide to open your legs, that's your fault, blah, blah, blah, blah, you get 1.00

00:23:23.940 pregnant now, cool.

00:23:25.820 You are having your own issues in life.

00:23:28.880 You are definitely not equipped to be a mother, you're not even responsible or whatever, and 0.95

00:23:33.220 the guy on top of that, he's not a partner, that he's going to be able to even support

00:23:36.060 your child in many ways.

00:23:37.540 There you go.

00:23:38.220 It's your decision.

00:23:38.980 If you want to terminate it, you terminate it then.

00:23:41.200 That's not about money, it's about mental, it's about how prepared are you as a person,

00:23:45.260 and if you're afraid and you don't want to do it, okay, but just be ready to deal with

00:23:48.040 the consequences.

00:23:48.580 Can we address that?

00:23:49.380 In the room, there's days, actually, like, you know, contraception.

00:23:52.660 Yes, I was about to say.

00:23:53.940 Yeah, facts.

00:23:54.440 You know, there's so much contraception, so when you're in that stage where you're

00:23:58.560 having a pregnancy, what have you done to prevent that? 0.95

00:24:01.180 I understand auntie's situation was very, you know, it happened.

00:24:03.700 That's why I said that, I'm an exception to every rule, and I accept that, yeah.

00:24:06.800 Yeah, there's contraception involved to stop these things from happening, and we've completely

00:24:11.040 ignored that, and went on to the fact that we've been reckless and got pregnant.

00:24:14.000 So what contraception was the person on?

00:24:15.940 You clearly don't know about contraception.

00:24:18.120 I very much know I've got no kids.

00:24:21.320 Can I say something?

00:24:22.280 Can I add to that?

00:24:23.240 Can I add to that, yeah?

00:24:24.240 Yeah.

00:24:24.360 Really, for a guy, all you can do is wear condoms.

00:24:26.740 Yeah.

00:24:26.900 So really, who really is in charge?

00:24:30.480 It's not hard.

00:24:31.900 It's not hard to prevent vaguenessing.

00:24:34.320 That's a good point.

00:24:35.680 Guys, one at a time.

00:24:36.680 Who's got more authority in that?

00:24:38.300 Yeah.

00:24:38.460 Because in my opinion, I think women really need to do a better job of, like, making sure 1.00

00:24:45.140 that they don't fall into that trap, because the majority of the contraception is down to

00:24:49.840 them, isn't it?

00:24:50.480 Do you know what I'm saying?

00:24:51.240 And then even, let's say, even if you have a girlfriend, and you get her pregnant, and 0.78

00:24:55.320 she doesn't want to have the kid, she ain't having it, bro. 0.53

00:24:57.840 Facts, yeah.

00:24:58.520 So, like, that's how...

00:24:59.440 There's pre-cautions, you can get the morning after.

00:25:01.840 They're stuffed.

00:25:02.400 You know, you feel like it's a bit iffy.

00:25:04.020 I've caught that bare times.

00:25:05.120 Morning after, I've caught that bare times.

00:25:06.500 Bro, you know, it's so nice.

00:25:07.800 Actually, at least you buy it.

00:25:08.500 You pay for it.

00:25:09.080 Yeah, I'll buy it.

00:25:10.260 You and two gents in. 0.61

00:25:11.260 I'll buy it, and I'll watch her take it.

00:25:14.320 Zuby, I have a question for you.

00:25:16.220 Yeah, go ahead.

00:25:16.500 Do you think that Plan B is an abortion?

00:25:19.560 Because I always get this question, and I don't know enough about it.

00:25:22.520 It would depend on exactly how it works.

00:25:25.200 I don't know.

00:25:26.100 Next day.

00:25:26.680 The next day.

00:25:27.800 No, I know what it is.

00:25:30.000 I'm talking about the actual mechanism by which it works.

00:25:32.500 Does it prevent the fertilization? 0.79

00:25:34.520 I actually don't understand.

00:25:36.500 I understand that.

00:25:37.080 Are you talking about them all enough?

00:25:38.300 I don't know.

00:25:39.120 If it prevents fertilization, then no.

00:25:41.320 Okay, if it prevents fertilization, then no.

00:25:43.180 That's not an abortion. 1.00

00:25:43.880 No, I don't think.

00:25:44.440 I think they all stop the embryo from attaching to the...

00:25:46.800 Yeah, that's what you said.

00:25:47.660 Prevents it from the beginning.

00:25:49.400 But it's already fertilized, right?

00:25:50.560 When the sperm touches the egg, that's already like an embryo.

00:25:53.160 Has conception already...

00:25:54.700 Is it a contraceptive or is it a...

00:25:57.940 It's an emergency contraceptive because you don't know.

00:26:00.420 By the way, I've tried to actually find the answer to this,

00:26:04.300 and it seems to be a little bit up in the air that it's not totally clear the mechanism.

00:26:06.740 So it's only all right as long as the sperm touches the egg.

00:26:11.780 It's like, let me come in.

00:26:13.080 No, no, no.

00:26:13.800 I care about being intellectually honest and consistent, right?

00:26:17.440 So human life begins at conception, right?

00:26:20.360 Left uninterrupted from that point.

00:26:22.360 This is why it's dumb when people make that point.

00:26:23.940 Oh, well, masturbating is the same as the...

00:26:25.740 It's like, no, because a sperm on its own doesn't do anything.

00:26:28.400 It never develops into a human.

00:26:29.500 An egg on its own does not.

00:26:30.520 But once they meet, if we were to rewind any of our lives

00:26:33.920 and go back to where our life began,

00:26:36.620 it would be from that moment of conception.

00:26:39.040 That's when the DNA...

00:26:40.760 That's when the full DNA...

00:26:42.620 I get what you're saying.

00:26:43.300 But you can get a pill that you take up to five days after.

00:26:46.580 What it does is that the sooner you take it,

00:26:49.400 because you don't know whether it's going to get fertilized or not.

00:26:52.940 So the earlier you take it, it will strip the womb. 1.00

00:26:56.160 So it won't be attached.

00:26:58.300 It would depend on what the actual mechanism is.

00:26:59.060 So as far as I'm concerned,

00:27:01.220 if it's within 72 hours, I'll say, yeah.

00:27:03.280 If it's within five days, I'll be...

00:27:05.220 And you can go as far as five days.

00:27:06.700 No, what I'm trying to say is that 72 hours, 72 hours,

00:27:09.960 you know there's not going to be any fertilization,

00:27:12.560 because it's like that.

00:27:14.200 But the five days is a bit iffy.

00:27:16.880 And can I just say that?

00:27:17.980 Yeah, sure, sure.

00:27:18.420 Everybody keeps on talking about trauma.

00:27:21.900 And everybody keeps on blaming everything.

00:27:23.760 How many of you know I was just banned on TikTok?

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JustPearlyThings - March 14, 2023

This Eliminates Women from wife category

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