This Feminist Gets CRUSHED for Saying Body Count Don't Matters
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In this episode, we discuss the difference between losing a virgin and losing your virginity, and why it's easier for women than men. We also talk about the stigma behind virginity and what it's like to be a virgin in the modern era.
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okay whether you guys have seen our content or not there is a fact that we
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we speak about quite a lot and the fact is one in three men haven't had sex in the last year
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and or are virgins so do you think it is easier for a man or a woman to lose their virginity
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definitely easier for a woman to lose virginity yeah yeah by far expand i mean a guy has to like a
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girl can literally just raise her hand and you know say who wants to do it with me and uh a bunch
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of guys will flock her way she kind of just has to show up right guys actually have to put in a lot
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of work to get laid in general but to go from like kissless virgin to losing your virginity and
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having a girl like you is a bit of a process do you think it's easier for women would you say
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yeah but i think also it depends on your attractive level so do you think that um women losing their
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virginity depends on the attractiveness you get an ugly guy and an ugly woman he's more likely to
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there virginity it's hard it's because obviously attract uh how attractive you are is subjective but
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i feel like typically attractive women are obviously going to lose it really easily
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but women who aren't your typical so like i don't know if you're maybe overweight or not your like what
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your typical idea of good looking is then obviously it's going to be harder which might be on the same
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level as i don't know i can't explain it okay um you find it you think men will find it harder to lose
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their virginity well i think men would find it hard oh women yeah um i think like i'm a 35 year old
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male and i haven't thought about losing my virginity since i was my teenage was it hard for you no no like
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really not at all like it was just a natural process of becoming an adult um yeah like the
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whole concept to me is quite foreign that this is was talking to women always easy for you
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because some guys say they like really struggle with it um no not really no it's like like it was
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always easy for you to talk to women yeah some guys it's like not natural to them which is
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understandable yeah i mean i think it can be intimidating it can be but like no it wasn't for
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me i grew up with i grew up in a quite a family with quite a lot of female with a lot of female
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influence and yeah i've never never ever struggled to talk to women what do you think i would say it'd be
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easier for women to lose their virginity just because women are probably more selective about who they sleep
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with and men are less because they just kind of want to get laid but then if you're more selective
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wouldn't it be harder generalized uh well if you're more yeah if you're more selective wouldn't it be
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harder well no because you can afford to be so selective when you have more options i guess
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if that makes sense because more women are more selective so men
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like generalize see how you think women have more options than men
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um i think men are more willing to overlook certain things in order to have sex whereas
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women won't always do that so women would be more selective in a lot of senses they have i guess more
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um i don't want to say standards it's not about standards but just kind of what they would
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want boundaries boundaries yeah that's a good word for it 100 so women have more boundaries
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boundaries you said yeah i would i would say that there's sorry i would say that there is um there
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is a need for women and people people generally but women to have boundaries um in order to not fall
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prey and trap to um to labels and titles that come with being promiscuous i think that there's there's um
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there's a medal behind virginity that that men kind of want to hold it's like oh i've lost my virginity
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i you know i want to tell everyone about it i don't feel like there's that much of a medal behind it for
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girls it's not like oh let me put a pin in this because i won i i think it's less of a um there's not
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so much incentive for women to lose their virginity whereas men i i i feel like there's there's more of a
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come on you you should do this come on you should do this come on you should do this and there's a
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lot of um toxicity behind that as well as like ego that surrounds the type you know the label virginity
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as well so you think that it there was more you think there's more pressure on women or men to lose
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your virginity i would say on men you think it's on men yes so when you were like at school when
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you were younger like because i i mean i remember me being at school and there was there was like
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you're still a virgin oh my god you're still a virgin oh my god what what you still doing a virgin
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and i think a lot of the time guys got to the point where they would just lie about having lost their
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virginity like so you didn't have the same thing as a woman no and i wouldn't say that um i think
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it's really sad that anyone feels like they have to lie about something in order to be accepted within
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um like peers and friend groups um and i don't feel like there was that sort of um title that comes with
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losing your virginity in a female i went to an all-girls school um and i don't feel there was
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any any of that um where i where i was at school so even at all girls school there was no pressure
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no i didn't did the girls not come in and say look i lost my virginity did they not do that yeah we did
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that right okay but there was certainly no pressure to do that there was no like you know when are you
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going to do it when are you going to do it it was a moment of pride as and when it happened um but i
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don't think it was something that i don't think it was a necessity right like i feel like because
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i went to catholic school and i just feel like people didn't really care either way as a girl
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like if you did cool if you didn't yeah cool like yeah well you look down upon in your school if you
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did lose it no but it was like hot gossip right okay like um i went to a small catholic school and so
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like if you heard that someone like because not a lot of people really were i know the stereotypes
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of catholic schools but mine was more like innocent i don't know what's a stereotype i don't know what
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what you've never heard that like they always say like catholic schools are crazy and i'm sure they
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are like some of them but mine was like not like that i don't know i mean in my experience church
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girls have probably been the freakiest girls ever had sex with i won't i know it's like uh but i would
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just say it was kind of similar to like a small town where like if something happens like everyone's
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talking about it so you see like with virginity do you guys think that when like talking about like
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your experience well do you think that there's a pressure the pressure to lose your virginity
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creates a curiosity that just makes you want to do it
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um is that what happened at your school uh no i mean i would say maybe more for men but not as much
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for women i would say yeah okay do you think like virginity nowadays is looked upon with ridicule
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if you're a virgin definitely guys yeah for a guy or girl anyone or both either or i mean i would say
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for a guy yeah it's kind of a little weird you call them incels but i would say for a girl if
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she's 21 and she actually is a virgin i think a lot of guys would probably not believe her but if
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if they know that to be a fact they'd probably find that like really attractive you think so
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yeah you think you think a virgin girl is attractive i mean i think if a girl's attractive
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she's attractive no i'm saying do you think it's attracted to a man i would say so hmm you were
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going to say something you were like no no i'm not saying what he said wasn't right about a guy
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i find that attractive if she was 21 and a virgin but i think all my friends lost their virginity
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like at like 14 or something 15 and then i remember i lost my virginity like a couple days
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before my 18th and i definitely felt like no one directly pressured me or all my friends weren't
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like oh go and do it but it was kind of like you did feel like a ticking time bomb because it did
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feel a little bit like where when everyone's doing one thing if you're doing something different you
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feel a bit weird so it's like when i was coming up to my 18th it did feel like i was getting to the
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weird stage oh really you felt yeah i felt like awkward like you have to get it done yeah but i can't
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put my finger on where that come from i guess it's just the norm because the average um age of people
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losing their virginity is actually around 17. oh okay see compared to like everyone i know that's really late
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do you wonder if um those numbers are based on like an older generation because i just hear stories
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from my my younger sisters about like their friends tell us the stories pal no no i'm not talking about
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anything with minors oh sorry no no no no um but um there's just wild stories when they're doing stuff
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we're like like at a much younger age it seems like than the older generation so you think there's
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more pressure on like the younger generation to lose it and i don't even know if it's pressure i
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just think they're wilder like i just think they're exposed to more younger and i think that like my mom's
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generation would say that about my generation right like it seems like every generation is just getting
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wilder and wilder and wilder so a lot of times like when i see the stats it's always based on like
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five to ten years ago and i'm like it's a whole different group of kids so i remember when i was
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gonna lose my virginity i'm not gonna lie as a guy like i prepared because like you as a guy you kind
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of prepare like you know what's gonna happen i knew the day i had my girlfriend she had already had sex
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i hadn't but i'd never told her that obviously because i was experienced and um like you just prepare
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for it like it was that the same was it like a was it something that you kind of fell into or something
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that you prepare for for me personally i fell into it oh really okay yeah it wasn't it wasn't the
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preparation it wasn't it was just sorry um yeah no it wasn't it wasn't yeah i didn't prepare for it as
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as you said yeah but you know it just happened organically you guys did you prepare i i definitely
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prepared for like a month like mentally and like spiritually absolutely prepared uh and like in my
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case it was very similar what you're saying is i didn't want to be the only one in my friend group
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who was a virgin so i just found the first girl who had a crush on me and i just begged her to let
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me hook up with her and she was super into me so she's like yeah totally and i prepared for it
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right because talking to women was never easy right right and so yeah it definitely was something
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i had to prepare for how do you prepare for this like is it do you get some condoms and watch youtube
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tutorials buy condoms like look for advice on and this is like over a decade ago right so this is like
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yeah it was a long time ago and i i was just trying to mentally prepare for the most part and um
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did it help definitely definitely i had no idea i was doing i just like stuck it in just waiting for
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something to happen i was just confused i was just very very confused has it got better
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did you have to prepare over there i'm not married so i couldn't tell you guys oh you're
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emerging still he's a virgin we got a virgin on the show no i don't know if i like prepared but
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yeah it kind of just happened but i already kind of was wanting it to happen actually the very first
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time i had the option to do it i couldn't make it happen i was like too nervous and the girl was older
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than me she wanted to and i just couldn't without being descriptive here but uh yeah i just couldn't
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get hard i was like too nervous i was really young yeah like really young how young really young i think
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i was like a freshman in high school i don't know how old that is over here um 14 no i was like 12 or
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13. what the hell yeah yeah yeah girls had crushes on me when i was young and then um but yeah it was
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until later it was probably like a year and a half two years later after that wow wow that's a fish thing
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12 and 13 i was just like thinking about like computer games and i was trying to get laid at that age
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see we go to catholic school and i feel like the girls would feel guilty
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like after if they lost their virginity to be honest like just in my friend group i guess
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so because that's what god goes i like i definitely did because i was older i was definitely the last
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one in my friend group but like i felt so guilty because i felt like god was like mad he's still mad
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i know i know i know he's still bad so that pressure at 12 so i just want to kind of flesh it out like
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where do you think that came from like where did it cause a 12 to me a 12 year old would be thinking
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about different things other than sex i was probably like 13. she was a junior so she was probably like
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15 or 16. she was just like an older girl to me like the a year or two makes a difference in high
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school right you know and then she was she's already done it she was experienced i wasn't so she was like
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14. her she was probably like 15 or 16 i'd imagine okay yeah um i don't know you just never done it
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you're nervous you hear about it you see all these adult films and you're a kid you're like yeah back
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then actually we didn't have the internet like you know i'm 34 i forgot to mention earlier but i remember
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like when we were in elementary school someone found this adult magazine right from their dad and
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they ripped out a page so on the we used to have to walk home from the bus stop and there was like
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this desert where we'd hide this one picture just a still picture of a girl with her boobs and like
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we were all like young kids staring at this thing and we'd hide it back under this rock throw dirt on
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it and like we'd stop by there like every day to look at it so do you think like your introduction to
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like losing the virginity was probably not healthy was something like that like because i think a lot of
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guys like even me like i had i was introduced to like a corn videotape when i was like 13 and it
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blew my mind so young to me i'm like this is like sad no literally like like i had a friend and he was
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at his house and he knew he was older than me he was like 15 i was like 13 and he knew that his his
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mother had like a corn video that's his vhs times like she had like a vhs and he was like guys there was
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like three of us and i was like guys i'm going to show you something and um he put the tape on and
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that at 13 that literally blew my mind yeah one of the greatest days of my teenage life was
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everything changed so i have a question for the guys um would you want to marry a virgin definitely yes
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yeah absolutely i mean it's not the end all thing but if it's uh if i found the girl and i was gonna
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like it regardless i mean then yeah that's just i would say would you would you guys be willing to
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like wait then till you're married to sleep with her oh that's usually what comes with a virgin
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like if if she's she's usually waiting so like typically um like my friends that were virgins when
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they got married like the dude dated them for a year year and a half then they got married so he
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didn't do anything with anyone else for a year year and a half that's interesting question because
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like personally i just don't think marriage is advantageous i'm from canada right and so the
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family court system they're just not in the benefit of men so i just don't believe in marriage
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but i think my ideal partner that i want to like kind of like emotionally spiritually sell down with
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you know ideally would have a lower body count what what if um maybe marriage it doesn't have
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to be like marriage in the church sure because like those girls typically want to get married in
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the church sure yeah i mean would you be willing to wait like a year year and a half to be with that
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girl i think so yeah okay are you being honest though see so you're not gonna have something
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stuff for the internet bro if it was like an open relationship dynamic and i can hook up with other
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girls in the meantime no that's not how it works no that's not how it works bro that's not that's
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no that's impossible the only the only yeah like okay the only reason i ask is a lot of guys like
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say they want virgins but i don't think they want what would come with it and i know a lot of girls that
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are virgins and did wait till they were married because i went to catholic school and just like
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different churches i've been involved in i'm like i don't think a lot of the guys that say they want
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virgins would do the stuff they'd be like they would want i mean talk about your ex-girlfriend
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yeah if you can yeah talk about your ex-girlfriend um yeah my ex-girlfriend was a virgin when i met her
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okay um so it's not like and is she still a virgin no i i took that okay fair enough yeah yeah yeah but
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um i don't know i'm kind of on board with what justin was saying about the whole marriage system
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like i'd want to do in the church for her and you know have the big party and you know give her the
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memories and whatnot but in terms of like actually signing a legal binding contract
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to a government i that doesn't really interest me too much yeah no i agree i don't think it's
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advantageous for men like if i was a guy i probably wouldn't want to get married
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but it's interesting that what you say about guys wanting the virgin but not being willing to wait for
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the virginity like that's like yeah a year and a half sounds like a long time it does that means we
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have to bump that marriage up but do you think that's because you've experienced sex already
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um probably yeah so now you know what it is you know what you're going to be missing right yeah and
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i think that's a lot of what because uh remember last show we had linda on and she was a virgin and um
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i was speaking to her after the show and it's just interesting the way guys are like if uh
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we speak about statistics right and marriages often work out if the two people that get together
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in a marriage are virgins yeah it's like the the highest success rate is when they're both virgins
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yeah yeah so if one has already experienced sex and the other one hasn't then marriage is less likely
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to work out yeah i believe that that makes sense why are you laughing sorry because that makes no sense
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to be whatsoever oh really why tell me why because like i'm like why would you even like i just i
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wouldn't never even consider someone how how many like if someone's a virgin or not if i like i i i don't
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bump into any of you and say hey are you a virgin no but when you're getting to know somebody you would
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ask a question though why you don't want to know if the woman that you're with is a virgin or she's had
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sex with a hundred thousand men like so you you would marry a girl that had sex with a hundred guys
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uh wow like why why is the number like i i'm yeah sorry i just yeah that's a completely abstract concept
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to me do you want to talk about pair bonding no it was because i only are like yeah i only discovered
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who you were yesterday and yeah like yeah and like even the the idea of that yeah well i think
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bonding is intriguing to me because it's a completely foreign concept okay it's just in my entire life
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yeah it's just basically like the more partners that a girl um has the more people she compares him to
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typically and it makes her less satisfied with the guy she's with so for example if a girl is a virgin
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when she's married she has an 80 chance of having a happy marriage after 10 years where if she slept
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with more than five people it drops to a 30 chance how are you how are you ascribing these statistics to
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that like what's the like how how do you possibly prescribe an 80 statistical so so they they survey
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the people later so like how many people have you slept with when you got when you got married and
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then later they come back and ask if they're happy are they reducing that to just sex and saying that
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the reason the women are comparing them to the past men is specifically because of sex well okay
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they don't they don't they they don't say in the study that it's because they compare so i should
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say that's just like based on like my like talking to people um it's just based on how many partners
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they've had so it drops down to 25 percent it's just very homer simpson telling ken brockman that like
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40 percent of all people can make up statistics like so so you don't see the you don't see the sense in
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it so if if you think that somebody has experienced 100 men for instance yeah if a woman's experienced
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100 men yes and then you're 101 yeah you don't think that those 100 men would um she won't think about
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one of those 100 men and not you and not you of course you would right exactly so that's the but
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but that but that but it's complete it's it's it's a it's a fallacy it doesn't like it it's not a
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comparable statistic well well of course it is because do you know an alpha widow is a what alpha widow
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an alpha widow yeah so uh a lot of women a lot of women go on pearl you'll explain it better than i would
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well it's basically like like women like to be with the guy that's the best that they can get
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and like they want to feel like they're with who the best the best that they can get and the problem
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is if a girl has a guy that's at a certain caliber and then she goes on to date somebody else and she
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sees him as settled so a lot of times women sleep up and then the person that they marry isn't who they
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actually want and so there's like accounts of like like even there's reddit threads of like girls
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talking about how they you know married one guy and they missed their husband or not sorry they
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missed their ex-boyfriend from college or whoever it was but what is why does sex or how many people
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they've slept with determine that wouldn't it be other factors like how they were treated in the
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relationship it's not only you're right it's not it's not only sex but if you've had a hundred guys
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but not all of those are going to be substantial relationships not all those are going to be
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comparable to say the person you're with right if it's one specific person it's no different for one
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person sleeping with one person and comparing that to that person right what do you so so say
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if they um had only slept with say like five people before they met the person they married
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right um regardless of whether they slept with a hundred or five there's still that one boyfriend
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that they'd compare to you're actually you're actually correct with that it's not it's not
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necessarily only about the number like if you know the first person you slept with was michael b jordan
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i think it's going to be hard to live up with up to that if that's your first boyfriend so it's not
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necessarily about the number but when you go up to a hundred it's like the the more chances of
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there being a guy that you can't live up to i think increases i think if women are actually honest
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they all know that one guy in their head that they probably won't say there's that one guy that
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they know who we're actually talking about i don't know who he is but you do i think it's it's
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depending on how you view your past relationships for me there's not one in my life i would really
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want to go back to because i understand why it didn't work out and and it worked out didn't work out for
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specific reasons and i'm not quite frankly that person anymore and i also think it's dependent
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on the circumstances of how women are sleeping with these different men right if they're not
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entering into emotional commitments or you know why they're sleeping around these sorts of things
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and then they change the headspace that they're in then i don't think body count has an impact on who
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their future partner might be based on just like self-awareness question what value does more bodies
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bring to a guy does it have to bring value yeah no i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying when when
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when a girl men are biologically predisposition to be attracted to purity and youth what do you mean
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by that like all throughout throughout all of history like the most powerful men had concubines of
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virgins right like so so that's something i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying you can't i'm saying
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such as uh genghis khan yeah but i would attribute that to the claiming of power they would claim power
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over female and wait guys it needs to be one at a time go ahead i would say that would be attributed to
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men wanting or people in those positions one is claiming as much power as possible and the more
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most power you can have is over a submissive pure female right it doesn't necessarily right but i'm
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saying like we're they're attracted to youth and purity and they can't undo that but that's that's a
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power based mindset right and that power is what we kind of crave through a survival mindset right when
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we're trying the person who has the most power is the most likely to survive right and so when we're in
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that frame of mind that makes sense but that's not the world that we kind of really live in anymore it's
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not really based around survival it's not based around this calling for power i don't think that
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should be the um the defining kind of factor in terms of right but that's like a woman's point of
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view right you might you might not think that but in general guys care and so it's like you can't go
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to the market and tell them and i know i know your friend doesn't and like like but this is an
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exception but i don't think he's he's that much of an exception a lot of people who don't really care
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and don't really consider that because there are other factors they consider are they trying to sleep with you
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who like the people that told you that in terms of they don't probably because guys are here right
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so guys you prefer a purer woman than more of a whole i mean yeah and there's a lot of factors
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when it comes to liking a girl but i think if the exact same girl and then she slept with a thousand
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men or three men it's like i'm i don't even yeah i don't judge the girl that slept with thousand men
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live your life but yeah you're gonna want the girl who has had less men inside of her right even if
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even if i were to say that there was any weight on body count i would say you'd have to consider the
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the circumstances that that body count happened in right where that person was at why they were
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sleeping around right and what space they might be in right so guys completely change their habits
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i don't think that's true i don't believe that's true i think that is actually kind of making too
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much of a generalization i know you work on the general exception but that is too much it's it's a lot
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more nuanced than that i don't think as many men as you think actually i'm just saying if a woman came to me
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and said i've slept with a thousand men because i was broken and i had been abused and blah blah blah
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right you still slept with a thousand men where's the compassion in that though where's where's
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i'm not thinking about i'm thinking about you've had a thousand penises inside you are going to be
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with someone shouldn't compassion be a main factor in that relationship right and understanding of who
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they are what they've been through shouldn't that be a main factor the world but the world yeah the
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world doesn't owe you understanding like that's entitlement you're not you're not entitled to someone's
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compassion and understanding and you i think men are allowed to be selective in who they date
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and like i think men are allowed to have standards and if that's their standard so be it and it's not
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it's not every single guy but i think in general if you pull men would you rather have a girl that's
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up with a hundred or slept with one they would pick one and and and i are they less picky than they
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were a hundred years ago sure you were how if you slept with three people a hundred years ago right
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right so are they less picky now sure but you can't undo the wiring what what in general men want
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so where would you say that's come from in terms of them wanting that where would you
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it's biological because that had to okay i'll tell you i'll tell you where is that so historically
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historically they had to ensure paternity yeah so historically like a men a men did not want to
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pass on resources to a kid that was not theirs so they're biologically predispositioned to be grossed out
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by hoes you know basically yeah because it's like well whose child is that it's not mine it could be
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like it could be stanley's and derrick's do you know i mean he doesn't know and so you're trying to
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i hear what you're saying but you can't undo the biological wiring that human beings have had for
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centuries thousands of years it just is what it is can we can we put a marker on where this historic
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number is coming from you're saying a hundred years ago that was 1922 so okay so like maybe
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can you speak into the microphone sorry between world war one and world war ii
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and in what part like like you it's a very it's a very vague argument you're saying you're saying
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historically a hundred years ago well you could you could take um data from like the 1950s where the
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majority of high school graduates were actually virgins before like the whole birth control was
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introduced in the sexual revolution like happened in the u.s um so that was i wasn't actually invented
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by then yeah you're right like i'm not saying like women women it gave women the option to sleep around
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but that's what i'm saying back then it was like um it was bad like it was looked down upon if you had
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more than a certain amount of sex partners and you can even think of this anecdotally like if i start
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telling my mom about that if i start telling my mom about the body counts like of girls nowadays
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she's disgusted she's like what on earth is going on and i tell my grandma i tell i tell my grand but
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that's not something about anything that's like irrelevant to the conversation i tell my i tell my
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grandma about like the body counts nowadays she's like what is going on in these streets and we could
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just say like anecdotally and me when i hear like my little sister with the stories that they tell me i'm
00:29:49.440
like what on earth but it's like every generation go ahead in america right now uh 100 of women that
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enter the college system around 17 right only 12.3 leave virgins
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only 12.3 leave college virgins wait you give me a hundred percent you got a hundred percent of women
00:30:12.880
entering the college education system and when you leave the college education system only 12.3 percent
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are virgins what's that statistic for men for women so what's that statistic for men 4.4.5 4.5 leave
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men leave virgins and 12 sorry 14.5 14 point and 12.5 percent 12.3 so we're talking a difference of
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like one and a half two percent so so what happens during the college years now in in these days and
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times is people are definitely more promiscuous in the most formative years of their life when they're
00:30:46.480
supposed to be going out and experiencing new experiences so so okay so then we have this
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whole it's it's a misnominable like it's complete so do you do you think society benefits from
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promiscuity or it doesn't benefit from promiscuity i think it's completely irrelevant you think
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promiscuity is completely irrelevant i think whether it benefits society or not is irrelevant i don't think
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like you're i don't think that it should be definitive enough as like one person 100 people
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1000 people it is a benefit or not to society you can't prescribe statistics yeah it's just like you
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can't be going 12.4 percent of this because it's it's it's relevant subjective to each individual
00:31:29.440
individual and they're in a bodily autonomy okay but do you do you think it's do you think it's good
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for families that people are sleeping around more in what sense like do you think it's good to go
00:31:40.320
into a marriage with a bunch of exes is that is that good like and i just say this from from
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experience because my parents have only been with each other and like where i would see you know exes
00:31:50.960
come back in the picture and like some of my friends parents marriages and like other stuff come in
00:31:55.200
where my parents had like only been with each other and i think it was better for their marriage
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and that's a completely subjective view it's completely it's well you could say that but
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when you also have data to back it up right i would say there's other factors that go into that and i
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kind of bring back what i said about kind of having a certain amount of self-awareness right when you
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choose to go into marriage i think people have to take accountability for their pasts and acknowledge
00:32:16.880
you know where they may be still holding on to things before you enter into a big commitment like
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that and i don't think you know the number of your body count or the number of people you've been with
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prevents you from being able to do that i feel like you can still make the choice to do that you have
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