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- February 07, 2023
This Modern Woman ADMITTED This
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34 minutes
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Word Count
6,765
Sentence Count
938
Misogynist Sentences
55
Hate Speech Sentences
36
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Have you ever cheated, starting here, go around, and then second?
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I have never cheated. I have been cheated on once that I'm aware of.
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And how did you find out?
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Looking through his phone, actually.
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Okay, so what apps did you go to?
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Literally just WhatsApp and also he had some dating apps as well,
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which were live and the conversations there.
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Was it your first time looking or had you looked before?
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That was my first time looking. I already felt there was something not quite right.
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That's why I looked.
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How long were you guys dating before you looked?
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Before I looked, probably about three years.
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You never looked in his phone once?
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No, because I trusted him until a point that I didn't and then I was right.
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And what made you think he was cheating?
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He changed the mannerisms, the way we were together, it was just different.
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Was he treating you better or worse?
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I was getting lots of presents and he was very wealthy, so win-win maybe?
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I don't know.
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But it was weird.
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There was definitely things lacking, like emotionally and stuff.
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But yeah, he was definitely different.
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Did you stay with him or did you go?
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I stayed for a bit because he was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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And he was like all about, you know, making everything work and fixing it.
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I was like, okay, I'll give you a chance.
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Okay.
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But I think deep down, I was like, I can't, it doesn't, it's broken.
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The trust is broken.
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If he was making less money, would you have left quicker?
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Oh my God.
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You're not getting terrible, man.
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That is terrible, man.
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That is terrible, man.
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I mean.
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I mean.
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I mean.
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I mean.
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I mean.
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You know you're the best, Laura.
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You know you're the best, Laura.
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You know you're the best, Laura.
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You know you're the best.
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We're all about honesty on this show.
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Yeah.
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Probably, you know, because once it's broken, it's broken.
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I have a question.
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I have a question.
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If he was making more, would you have stayed longer?
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I mean.
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No, I think, no, there came a point where I was like, no, I'm done.
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You know what I mean?
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And like money.
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What was that point?
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No, no, because, because I think when the trust is broken, the trust is broken.
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So like, although I'm like, yeah, we can make it work.
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And he was really trying, like really trying.
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I was just like, I can't get that.
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It's done.
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You know, once it, you're just like, I can't.
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And you, and once that trust is broken, then I think it's really hard for a relationship
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to.
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Yeah.
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But I think because we spent so long together and we were good for so long and he was willing
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to own up to it and rectify it and blah, blah, blah.
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I was like, okay, let's try.
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But realistically, it's very rare that that works.
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So I have a question.
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If you were single the rest of your life, would you have wished you worked it out with
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him?
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No, because he's not the one.
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The one.
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He's not the one.
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I don't believe in the one.
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I believe.
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I believe.
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I believe there is a one.
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But I think, I think when I was in love with him, I probably would have said that, but
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I'm not in love with him.
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And that is way gone.
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That, that emotion, that emotional draw or tie.
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So I think, nah.
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So second question.
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So you've never cheated physically.
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Never cheated.
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Have you ever, have you ever flirted with another guy?
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It depends what you mean by flirting.
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I'm quite flirtatious.
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It's just because of some of the stuff that I do work that I do, but, but never with intent.
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Okay.
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You never wanted it to go anywhere.
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No.
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Did you have guy friends at all when you were in that relationship?
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Yeah.
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I still have a lot of guy friends.
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Okay.
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One of my best is over there.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Um, what about, what about messages?
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Did you ever respond to messages from other guys?
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No.
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No messages.
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I shut it down.
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I'm very honest.
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Shut it down.
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Shut it down.
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Shut it down.
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Maybe light flirting some guy friends, but nothing physical.
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No, no.
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Yeah.
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I'm very fussy.
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I really, if I like someone, that's the only person I want to be with.
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Okay.
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What about when women do cheat?
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Are they cheating to leave typically?
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Do you think?
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Oh, I think some women cheat.
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I think they kind of cheat for a one-upmanship rather than, so you did it so I can do it.
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You know what I mean?
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Whereas, um, I think that there is an element that it's, you know, escapism and they, and they want out of what they're in.
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But I think it's that kind of one-upmanship.
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How do you know?
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How do you know?
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Well, just cause I have a lot of girlfriends.
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I have a lot of guy friends.
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I've never cheated.
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Just getting out of there.
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You've never cheated, but you know women who've cheated back.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And is that usually, does it work out for them?
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Very rare, very rare.
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Okay.
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Have you ever cheated?
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No.
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Okay.
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Have you ever been cheated on?
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No.
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Okay.
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Have you ever cheated?
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I've never cheated.
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Um, I've experienced someone being unfaithful to me, but we're not even together in the first place.
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So I don't think it counts as cheating.
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So you weren't, so how was he unfaithful if you weren't together?
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Um, I just, we were doing very official things.
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Okay.
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So the sex, you guys were having sex and then he was, we didn't have like a proper talk.
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Okay.
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But then I just energetically felt like he was with someone else.
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So then I don't know.
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I don't know if it counts as cheating.
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What do you think?
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If, if you never really established something, but, but then you kind of have?
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No, I don't think it counts.
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I mean, do you guys raise your hand?
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Raise your hand.
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Does that count as cheating?
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I would say, yeah.
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I think she says yes.
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I'm on the, on the edge.
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Oh, three.
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You think yes?
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Yeah.
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If you're, if you're not together, you think it counts as cheating?
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What is together?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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What does it mean?
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What does it mean?
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What does it mean?
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What does it mean?
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Yeah.
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He was consistently asking me out to be official.
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Actually.
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I was kind of, you know, for me, it's about action.
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So instead of saying, yes, I can be a girlfriend, I have to receive girlfriend treatments and,
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and see your consistency.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So, so he failed basically.
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Maybe, maybe he took it as a no and then was starting to move on.
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It's kind of, you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Like if like, it's like, if you asked a guy to be your boyfriend or like, if you, it's going
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somewhere and he says, no, wouldn't you move on?
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I was taking my time to decide.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, maybe he was doing the same thing.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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What about you?
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Have you cheated?
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Kind of.
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I think she's honest though.
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I like that.
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I like that.
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Okay.
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How would you say kind of?
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Well, I was living with my boyfriend.
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I hope he's not watching.
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You don't really like that.
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Someone's going to send to him.
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And it was like a work thing.
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It was proximity.
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It was just some kissing and a bit of a fumble in my lunch break.
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In your lunch break?
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Okay.
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I got to be honest.
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I got to be honest.
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I got to be honest.
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This is a yes.
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How is this a maybe?
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Kind of.
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Kind of, you know.
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I kind of cheated.
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He was like, you're kissing.
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Oh, shit.
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What if he only kissed another chick?
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Would that be cheating?
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Yes.
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I don't know.
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It didn't happen.
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So I don't know how I feel about it or felt about it.
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Okay.
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What if he only kissed another chick?
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Would that be cheating?
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Yes.
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I don't know.
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It didn't happen.
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So I don't know how I feel about it or felt about it.
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Okay.
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And did you tell him or no?
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No.
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Did he ever find out?
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He knows now.
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I mean, I'm assuming it didn't work out.
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No, but he's still one of my good friends.
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Okay.
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Sorry.
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Sorry.
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In your back pocket.
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Have you ever cheated?
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I have cheated.
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Yeah.
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Quite a bit.
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I was bad.
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Tell me.
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I appreciate the honest.
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The men are much more likely to tell you.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, I can't lie.
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I can't lie.
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Okay.
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So, how did you cheat?
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Ooh.
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Well, the first time, she probably cheated on me and then I just went nuts.
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Okay.
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So, how did you find out she was cheating?
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Email.
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I checked her email.
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She was emailing?
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Love fucking letters.
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Oh, I couldn't believe it.
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Not even Instagram.
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Email.
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Wow.
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Email.
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Who is she emailing?
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Very professional.
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I cannot.
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Who is she emailing?
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She's probably going to watch this, so I can't.
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How did you get into her email though?
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Yeah.
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I knew her password.
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Ooh.
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That's okay.
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It's okay.
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It's all right.
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Be honest.
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Be honest.
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So, you caught her emailing.
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Who is she emailing?
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Just some dude.
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Like, on holiday.
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She met him on holiday and she was emailing.
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Yeah.
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And so, who did you cheat with to get back?
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Ooh.
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Ooh.
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Not names, but like, loads.
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Loads.
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Oh, loads.
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Absolutely.
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Dating apps.
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Anyone personal, like, close to her?
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Ooh.
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Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
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But she knew them.
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Yeah, some of them.
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Yeah.
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I'm not like that.
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Did she know?
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Yeah, Laura's seen a lot.
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Yeah.
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I've seen it a lot.
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Yeah, we used to work together.
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And what did you say when he was cheating?
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Did you support him?
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Were you like, she kind of deserves it, right?
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No.
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I was like, I was like, clean breaks.
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I'm all about clean breaks.
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That's true.
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I should have clean-baked it.
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Yeah.
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He didn't.
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Fuck it.
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Yeah, he didn't.
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He really didn't.
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I did eventually.
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Are you guys still-
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We are friends.
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Yeah, we are friends.
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And we're actually laughing about it over the other week.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Other months, rather.
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Would you ever get back with her or no?
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Nah.
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Nah.
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Nah.
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Too far gone.
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Nah, it's all good.
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And how did you hide it from her?
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I didn't.
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Brazen.
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I actually didn't.
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Like, nah.
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Oh, you didn't hide it at all.
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I just done it.
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Like, yeah.
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She just didn't even-
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I did what I did.
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And did she leave when she-
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No, I left.
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Okay.
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It was actually me like, I left.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Did she find out?
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Mm-mm.
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Nah, she thought I was this angel.
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Like, she's the best, but she thought I was a proper angel.
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Like, yeah.
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And when I was about to tell her over dinner, like, everything that happened, like, she was like,
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it helps, don't tell me, don't tell me.
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Like, I look at you as a, like, as an angel, so I was like, all right, find a way to tell
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you.
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I'll tell everyone else and say it.
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So how many girls was it?
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It was a lot.
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Like, 20, maybe?
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Oh, 20.
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I thought you were going to say 50.
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That's actually-
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Oh, no, no.
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No, not 50.
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Nah.
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Add on 10 then, innit?
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30.
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Nah.
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That's it.
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It was quite cool.
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Yeah.
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I was working in clubs at the time.
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In your experience, if a girl finds out about another, if a girl finds out about other
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women, does she stay or go typically?
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It depends.
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Stay.
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Stay.
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I don't know.
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Maybe they stay for some reason.
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Yeah.
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They do.
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I can vouch for that.
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I can vouch for that.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Mr. Tinder.
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Can I, can I ask you a question?
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It depends on what it is.
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I want to know what you define cheating as first.
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Like, what is cheating to you?
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We were-
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Because everyone sees cheating as a different thing.
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That was actually-
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You're kind of ahead of me.
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That was going to be my next question.
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Oh, is it?
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Oh.
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But let's for now make it physical.
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Physical cheating.
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Kissing.
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Any-
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Kissing or further?
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Yeah.
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Is it deceiving someone behind their back or is it doing it when they know about it?
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Yeah.
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So, she knew.
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She was like, I can't lock Mr. Tinder down.
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In that case, no.
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Okay.
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So, you've had like an open relationship type thing?
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No, not at all.
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No, I've had girlfriends and I've been single.
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Wow.
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I mean, I need to understand.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So, you've had a girlfriend?
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I've had a few.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And so-
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To be honest with you, everyone sees cheating as a different thing.
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So, I'm trying to find out what cheating is to you.
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Yeah.
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So, I'm-
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Something physical.
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Physical.
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While you're with someone.
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Yeah, but if they know about it, then it's not cheating, isn't it?
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Yeah.
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I would agree with you.
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It's not cheating if they know about it.
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Yeah.
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But, so my question is, like, so you did like a one-sided open relationship where it
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was like open on yours?
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Yeah.
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I could say that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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At first.
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Yeah.
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And I was a bit of a playboy, to be fair.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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I was quite bad.
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Used to party and stuff.
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Drink a lot.
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Used to?
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Yeah.
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I'm good now.
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I'm really good now.
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I'm a settled man and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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But yeah, I would say, yeah.
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Do you know what?
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Most of my girlfriends cheated on me.
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So, I found that as a good excuse to cheat on them back.
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Oh, okay.
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Yeah.
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I was quite good.
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Like, if I said I'm in a relationship with someone, I'd be like, right, I'm in a
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relationship.
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But then they'll cheat on me.
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And I'm like, right, I'm going back to Stefan now.
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And I told them about it as well.
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But yeah.
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Okay.
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And there'd be girls to meet.
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Like, my girlfriends were so sly about it as well.
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But I'm quite clever.
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So, like.
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What do you mean?
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I'm intelligent.
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Like, when it comes to dating, I'm like, super intelligent.
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Hence, where I got right.
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Okay.
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I'm like the modern day hitch.
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So, I'm like a detective in love.
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Do you know what I mean?
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So, yeah.
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I found them, like, hard.
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And they still deny it.
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It's so funny.
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It's so funny.
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How would you catch them cheating?
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There's various things.
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So, like.
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It's like.
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So, they would ask me questions.
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The first.
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The biggest one is I'll go out.
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Obviously, I'm a model.
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So, I'll go out.
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I'm on TV as well.
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So, I'm going to take pictures of people in a club.
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Why are you taking photos with them?
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Right?
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Well, obviously, if I go out, someone's going to take a photo of me.
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So, I don't know.
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If they're asking me that question, I'm like, I'll wait for them to go out.
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And then I'll go and tag photos and stuff and see them in photos.
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I'm like, why are you taking photos and why are you even asking me?
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So, that would be the first thing.
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If someone asks you a direct question, you have a direct answer.
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But normally, they don't.
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So, then I sort of like, if you're asking me a question, then what's the reason that you're
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answering it?
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Oh.
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So, you're saying they're projecting?
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Mostly.
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They were cheating.
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Like, where have you been?
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And they clearly know where you've been.
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So, it's like, when someone asks the whereabouts or why you're doing something, it's normally
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because they're asking for themselves.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Can I have an example?
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I'm sorry.
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Can I have an example?
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So, they would be cheating with the guys they took pictures with?
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So, for example, they'd be like, why are you taking photos with someone?
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That's normal.
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To me, that's normal.
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Right.
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But then they would do it.
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So, I'm like, if that's a problem to you, and you're doing it, then you must be cheating
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on me.
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And then I'd go in.
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Do you know what I mean?
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Is that like, who are you texting?
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That kind of question.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like, who are you texting?
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Or like, where's your phone?
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Or, do you know what I mean?
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Like, then you're doing, you're hiding something.
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So, that's normally how I found out.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm quite open in me.
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If I'm texting a girl mate, I'll just say it.
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Or, if I'm taking a phone, even if I've gone back to an after party and there's five,
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six girls in with my mates, I'll say it.
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And then they go out.
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And the fact they've asked me, and I've told them, I'm like, why are you
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doing it then?
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So, then you dig deeper.
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You know what I mean?
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I end up getting hurt.
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But there you go.
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That's me.
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So, how did you find out?
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Did you message the guys that she was taking pictures with?
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No, no.
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I've never messaged.
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Looked through her phone?
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Like, how'd you get hurt?
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You know what's funny?
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Like, because I've been in the limelight quite a while, they start messaging me.
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They start liking photos.
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Like, you see them connect.
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Because I do social media as well.
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Yeah.
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Like, you just see the network happening.
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And also, if they've been out, if an ex-girlfriend's been out on a night out or whatever, like,
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you can see who they've been with because they start following them and stuff.
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Do you know what I mean?
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And like, oh, they're in Bournemouth.
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Oh, they're in Mayfair.
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And it all lines up.
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And you're like, oh, okay.
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And then you sort of watch it for a while.
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And like, oh, you're cheating on me.
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So, yeah, that normally happens to me.
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Have you ever been wrong?
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Sorry to...
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Have you ever been wrong?
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Assuming they have.
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Do you know what?
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Like, I haven't...
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I've always...
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I've always known my whereabouts.
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I've known they've been...
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Like, if someone's been with someone, they've not said they've been with them.
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To me, that's cheating.
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Whether it's physical or not.
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Like, if you ask someone to question, it's like, oh, who was you with?
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Was you with like...
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Oh, because...
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So, was you with four guys?
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Did you go back to that house?
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The fact they didn't say that to you is cheating to me.
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What's your definition of cheating?
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Like, what do you consider?
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Oh, deceiving someone behind their back.
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So, does it have to be physical?
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Not at all.
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Not at all.
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Just...
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So, wait, by that...
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Yeah, just...
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Like, yeah, come on.
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By that logic, if a girl lies about her body count, is it cheating?
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Because she's deceiving you?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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I'm like, well, just be open.
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Because I go in at the beginning.
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I'm like, yeah, I'll just go.
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And they go, yeah, 20.
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And then you find out, oh, this...
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You found out 20 in the space of a month.
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So, you're like, where's that 20 come from then?
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Is it 40?
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And where's the other 20 on top?
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So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I wouldn't even want to know their body count.
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No, I wouldn't know.
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I like...
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Because they ask you.
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If they ask me...
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Yeah, they ask you, I don't give it away.
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And I'm honest about it, it just makes me want to be dishonest going forward.
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But my thing with body count is, how can you ever really know who's telling the truth?
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Yeah, but...
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Like, you can't...
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Yeah, but if you say, like, 10 and you're 30 years old, like, you know something to be...
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Like, if I haven't started sleeping with people until I'm, like, 27, 28, then of course that number can be...
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But what if you're with someone and you find out they've been with 12 people after?
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But that's what I'm saying.
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How do you...
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You can't always find out.
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But you can tell, just based on...
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How can you tell?
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Because women...
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I feel like that's quite a general thing to say.
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But it depends.
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I disagree on that.
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I'm not saying it's 100%, but when women slip up, it always comes out.
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Yeah, look, the thing is, like, 2 off, 4, 5, 10, whatever, but when you're, like, 50 off, or 100, then there's a problem.
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Do you know what I mean?
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But that's my point.
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I don't think we can ever tell.
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What, 50 or 100 off?
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No, no, no, no.
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I'm saying everybody's body count.
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So if I was to say right now that my body count's 10...
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What is your body count?
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What is your body count?
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There's no physical weight.
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What is your one?
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There's no...
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You're gonna say no weight.
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But you haven't answered my question.
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You wouldn't be able to know if I'm lying or not.
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If I've gone higher or if I've gone lower.
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That's, like, there's no concrete.
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Yeah, but I just think the truth comes out of people...
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It comes out of names.
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It does.
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I mean, it's awesome.
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I'll give you an example, because, like, I've had hundreds of women come on the show.
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It's like, one girl will say something on the podcast, but eventually I hear about someone she's slept with.
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But again...
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So it's like...
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People have reputations.
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Oh, yeah.
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Like, shit comes out about people.
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I don't think it was that connected.
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Oh, yeah.
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I don't think...
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You know what?
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You know what?
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It's not the number.
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Definitely you would be.
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You would be surprised.
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I'll get different show guests come on.
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And then, like, some guy will be like, oh, I slept with that one, that one, that.
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Like, it's like...
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What?
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But he could be lying.
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Exactly.
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That's my point.
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You can never ever...
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Okay, you're right.
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He couldn't be lying.
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But when you...
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You won't completely tell.
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But then when it's like three guys have the same story, you're like, okay, God.
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That's...
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That's bias.
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That's bias.
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Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God.
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No, no, no.
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But you can tell guys cap, too.
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Yeah, of course.
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Guys cap about money.
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That's the biggest thing.
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Guys will be like, oh, I have this company.
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And we'll look it up.
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It's dissolved.
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It's interesting to say that because...
00:19:01.000
Statistically, men are...
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Like, men lie more about their body count than women.
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Like, they will...
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I'll tell you.
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Not just lie.
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Not just lie.
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Sorry.
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Not just lie.
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But they are the ones that notch it up.
00:19:17.000
Exactly.
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Yeah, exaggerate.
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Women don't...
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Men exaggerate?
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Yeah, men.
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Statistically, it's online.
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You can look it up.
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It's men.
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Statistically, men exaggerate.
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No, I don't think so.
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So it's hard to know what body count you actually have.
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Men will try and...
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But it's statistics.
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It's not my opinion.
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No, that's not true.
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That's not true.
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That was written by a woman.
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Let's just...
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Well, there's two problems, okay?
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One, feminists have ruined, like, all data.
00:19:41.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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They infiltrated schools in the 1970s and 80s.
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But I will say, men do lie.
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I would agree.
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Men tend to lie up.
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Women tend to lie down.
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Because it makes sense in society.
00:19:52.000
But wait, wait.
00:19:53.000
But who lies more, men or women?
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Oh, no.
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No, they both lie.
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That's a tricky question.
00:20:01.000
They both lie.
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It depends.
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It depends on the circumstances.
00:20:04.000
Exactly.
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They're both human.
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They're both human.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I'm banning a word.
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No, it depends.
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There's no, no, no, no.
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There's no, it depends.
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You gotta pick one side.
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What about kinda?
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What about kinda?
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No, no.
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Go on.
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I think women lie more, for sure.
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Because they suffer more judgment.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I think women suffer more judgment from the guy.
00:20:26.000
And usually it's always the...
00:20:27.000
Mostly the guys asking the girl.
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Her body counted the way around.
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Yeah.
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Because usually we presume that the guy is left with a lot of girls.
00:20:34.000
You're with the wrong guys.
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Of course.
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That's why I broke up with them.
00:20:40.000
Yeah.
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But you need to understand something.
00:20:42.000
Men and women lie for different reasons.
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So you cannot determine who's lying more.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So men lie about the money because guess what?
00:20:49.000
It works.
00:20:50.000
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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True.
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There's no lies.
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It's facts.
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It's not nice, but women like...
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We lie about the things that society finds important.
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And women lie about their body count because it works.
00:21:02.000
Yeah.
00:21:03.000
In all honesty, I think women lie more because it's like we have the filters on Instagram.
00:21:08.000
We have the caked on makeup.
00:21:09.000
We have the BBLs.
00:21:10.000
But again, men have the cards.
00:21:11.000
They've got the clothes.
00:21:12.000
They've got the...
00:21:13.000
Men have the steroids.
00:21:14.000
I'll tell you.
00:21:15.000
I'll tell you.
00:21:16.000
I've just had so many people come on the show.
00:21:20.000
It's like so many girls come on.
00:21:22.000
They'll follow me on Instagram.
00:21:23.000
And I'm like, who is that?
00:21:25.000
And they don't look like they're mixed.
00:21:27.000
Yeah.
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That's true.
00:21:29.000
Men, it's just not the same.
00:21:30.000
They don't do it as much.
00:21:31.000
They do lie about money.
00:21:32.000
I will say that.
00:21:33.000
Yeah.
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Like, but when it comes to looks, come on.
00:21:37.000
Women lie way more.
00:21:38.000
I mean, I guess in a way, yes, it's just more socially acceptable with women.
00:21:43.000
However, there are a lot of guys, depending on the spectrum of guy that you're like talking
00:21:47.000
to or dealing with, they are very physically orientated.
00:21:52.000
So they do go to the gym, whatever it takes to get that buff body.
00:21:56.000
Who?
00:21:57.000
They do have like Botox.
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Girls?
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No, guys.
00:22:00.000
I'm saying guys do it too.
00:22:01.000
Botox for guys.
00:22:02.000
I don't think so.
00:22:03.000
Yes.
00:22:04.000
You'd be surprised.
00:22:05.000
What type of guy?
00:22:06.000
No way.
00:22:07.000
Going to the gym for a bum or muscles is good.
00:22:10.000
Like BBL.
00:22:11.000
But they do added extras, but it's so subtle and it's not spoken about because it's the
00:22:17.000
focus is mainly on women because the beauty industry is funneled for women.
00:22:21.000
Do you genuinely think it's equally common?
00:22:23.000
It's not equally common, but it is common.
00:22:25.000
Do you think it's close?
00:22:26.000
Like the amount of filters, Botox, it's close.
00:22:29.000
I'll tell you something.
00:22:30.000
From personal experience, a man, all they want to do is have a hair transplant.
00:22:36.000
And they hit like 26 hair transplant.
00:22:39.000
That's enough for a man.
00:22:40.000
They don't feel comfortable talking about it, but I do.
00:22:43.000
I love my hair now.
00:22:45.000
You have one, Steph.
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Have you ever cheated?
00:22:50.000
Yeah.
00:22:51.000
Before that, I want to say something.
00:22:52.000
All self-reported data about cheating, money or whatever we speak now are unreliable.
00:22:58.000
You do like social desirability bias.
00:23:01.000
That's it.
00:23:02.000
Yeah.
00:23:03.000
So we cannot really determine.
00:23:04.000
Yes, I have cheated before and I have been cheated as well.
00:23:07.000
Okay.
00:23:08.000
What's cheating to you then, man?
00:23:09.000
What's cheating?
00:23:10.000
Well, let's talk about the physical that we started now and then we will go farther.
00:23:15.000
So how did you cheat?
00:23:17.000
Like how did you meet women you wanted to cheat with?
00:23:19.000
Like I was young, like 16, 17.
00:23:22.000
I was DJing.
00:23:23.000
I was just in the clubs every night and it was easy.
00:23:27.000
Okay.
00:23:28.000
So you would meet them in person?
00:23:29.000
Yes.
00:23:30.000
Did you ever cheat on dating apps?
00:23:31.000
I never had dating apps.
00:23:32.000
Okay.
00:23:33.000
Did you ever find out?
00:23:34.000
Yeah.
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All the times.
00:23:36.000
She caught me many times as well.
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Wow.
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Like red handed.
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Oh.
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And what happened there, man?
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Many times.
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Did you get a kick from that?
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So how did she catch you?
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Like she would like entering the house or something.
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Like you would have a girl over?
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Yeah.
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Or more.
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Or a couple.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And she would come over.
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And what happened?
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She would kick them out?
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No, I kicked them out and I stayed with you after.
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Oh.
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Did you kick them out?
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I'm not proud of that, by the way.
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Guys, guys, guys.
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Did you ever have sex?
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Wait.
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I'm not proud of that.
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Did you ever have sex with one girl and then have sex with her right after?
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And she knowingly did that.
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Yes.
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In your experience, do women stay after they're cheated on?
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Unfortunately, some do, but they shouldn't.
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If they respect themselves, they should just leave.
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Yeah, not should.
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I'm asking what they do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they stay.
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Okay.
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Some of them they do.
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Okay.
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Would you say more stay or more go?
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That depends.
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I'd say more stay.
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No, no, no.
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Thank you.
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Did you ask them to stay or did they say, I want to stay?
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Because there's a difference.
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No, no one.
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They want attention immediately after.
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No one say, oh, I want to stay.
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But do you ever, do you say, I won't do it again.
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I'm sorry.
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I love you.
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You're the one, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Did you buy him a Porsche?
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Did you buy him a Porsche?
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Yeah, but I say I'm not.
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Did you buy them a nice penthouse?
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A Lamborghini A.
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Put a ring on it.
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So I don't understand.
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So just because he said, I'm sorry, I won't do it again.
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No, no, no.
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Just curious as to, are they so desperate to stay that they don't need any reassurance?
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They just like, I don't care.
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I'm going to stay.
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Or are you coercing them into staying perhaps saying like, I will never.
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What is coercing?
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What is coercing?
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Rehearsing, but coercing.
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No, as in sort of saying, oh, you've caught me.
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I'll never do it again.
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You're the one I want.
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I don't know what I was thinking.
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That's coercing.
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So it's kind of lying to them, to engage in them.
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Maybe he means it in the moment.
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Maybe he means it.
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Probably.
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That's what most guys.
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But women don't really care when they get cheated on.
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They don't.
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And I say this because if you look at their, look at it.
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They do.
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And I'm telling you.
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Stop, stop, stop.
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They could say they care.
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But when I look at actions, they typically stay.
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But why do they stay?
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That's the question.
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Have you stayed before?
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Have you stayed before?
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Hell yeah.
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Why do you stay rich?
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But the reasons behind it, I mean, there's an evolutionary reason behind it.
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There's a reason why women stay.
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We can try to say biology doesn't matter, but it does.
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And it's because in the old days, if a guy could take care of other women and was selected
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by other women, that showed that he could take care of you too.
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And so that's why cheating, it's different for men and for women.
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Women tend to stay.
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And in some cultures, they have multiple wives, which is technically.
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Correct.
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And I'm saying there's a reason for that.
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And in some cultures, there's women who also have multiple husbands.
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What culture is that?
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There's matriarchal cultures.
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It's just that we don't learn about them.
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It doesn't mean that they don't exist.
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There's one in Asia.
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There's one.
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What's it called?
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I need to know about this.
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I've literally put them on my website.
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I didn't know about this.
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But here's the thing.
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They don't stand the test of time.
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They don't become big civilizations.
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But what's a big civilization?
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8,000 years ago, 17 women were reproduced for every one man.
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Only 40% of men have reproduced historically.
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How many?
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70%?
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No.
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40% of men have reproduced historically.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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80% of women have 40% of men.
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It's always been two women to one man.
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Oh, wow.
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That's good to know.
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For some people.
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That's the thing.
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I feel like in society, just because one thing works for someone doesn't mean it works for
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everyone.
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I didn't say that.
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And I think the different tribes and the different, you know.
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We have to have a conversation about in generalities.
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Like if we, this is why I say it depends.
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It's subjective.
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Like we have to talk about the rule before we can talk about the exceptions.
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And the rule is women tend to stay more than they do.
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But why do they stay?
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They stay, especially now in this society.
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Have you stayed before?
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Have you stayed before?
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How many boyfriends have you had?
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I've never been cheated on.
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How many boyfriends have you had?
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I'll say only one.
00:28:02.000
Oh?
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You would say only one?
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Only one.
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That means you've been seeing a lot of guys now.
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But why are you single now?
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I've been interested for like four people, but real relationship only one person.
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Wait, so I have a question.
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So you've done the situationship thing?
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Yeah.
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So what is a situationship?
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You're a side chick.
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Mmm.
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Unless, if he has a mane, then yeah.
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I'm saying when you're in a situationship, it's not.
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I wouldn't say situationship, but like you're getting, I was getting to know these people,
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but then it wasn't, you know.
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But the whole point is like, you didn't require exclusivity.
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Meaning, he was proud, the reason women stay is because they can't replace the guy.
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But again, why is that because of financial hardship in society?
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It's literally less beneficial for a woman to leave a relationship than it is for a man.
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Say that again.
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It's less beneficial for a woman to leave a relationship, but more women leave relationships.
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Even like you say all the time, 70% of divorces are by women.
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But again, why is it such a high number considering how much they lose in the relationship?
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Does it not show that there's something missing there?
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But I think it's because we've told women wrong.
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Like we're told that it's about our happiness.
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Life isn't about happiness.
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It's about duty.
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It's about community.
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And so when women are unhappy, they leave relationships, even when there's children involved.
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But it should be about happiness.
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You should be happy with the person that you're with.
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You should feel supported by them emotionally, physically.
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I think that's unrealistic in a 50 year marriage.
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Like people used to be married for 50 years.
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Do you really think that they were happy for 50 years?
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Did you know that in the 1950s?
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They've definitely done a little thing on the side.
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I do believe that.
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I do believe that.
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What?
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I think simplicity.
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Sorry.
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Did you know that in the 1950s, you know, the main era of stay at home moms and happy families
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and all of that, there was like a known thing of those women being extremely unhappy
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because of the fact that they didn't have an out.
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Like they kind of felt stuck.
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That's like, that's kind of the propaganda that they put.
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Most girls that I meet go, I want you to have enough money to have to work.
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I never say things unless I research it, you know.
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But here's the problem, is most of those studies, if you follow them back,
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it's by these like feminist gender studies professors that have gender.
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This universities, I only ever do, yeah.
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No, I know that's the problem.
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Feminists infiltrated universities in the 1970s and 80s,
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so much so that they made it more subjective rather than objective.
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And so the difference is now, it's like we have women running the universities
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and they even talk about how they rewrite history.
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But what about the facts that you get?
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If you can't trust anything that we find online, where can we actually find data to back the things that we say?
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And I think this is the difference between like the right and the left a lot of times.
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Like I think you learn over time, like which sources tend to be more credible.
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Of course.
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But in my experience, like I see what's in front of my eyes.
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Yeah.
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Do you know, like sometimes they want to give you a study and say,
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don't look at what's in front of your eyes.
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And I just don't see men being these crazy abusers that are just making women miserable.
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But that's your experience.
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It depends on where you are.
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If anything, I see it the other way around much more.
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It depends on where you are.
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It's completely different on my side.
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And that's my experience.
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And I feel like just because you haven't seen this doesn't make it not true.
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Like it doesn't delete other people's experiences.
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There's hundreds of millions of women on this earth.
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And I guess if we're going to go off of abuse, then I want to see police reports.
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And that's the issue.
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The majority of abuse claims are not filed in criminal court.
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This is actually true.
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This is true.
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But why?
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I love that.
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I'm the first time I've experienced in this shit.
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I'll tell you why it is.
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It's because in criminal court, it requires evidence.
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And in family court, it's on a balance of probabilities.
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Meaning if it's 51% more likely that he did it, then they will take the woman's side.
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So if a woman cries on the stand, she only has to convince one judge.
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Where in criminal court, it's a jury of your peers, which is a lot harder to sway.
00:32:06.000
And that, in my opinion, is why women do not file police reports.
00:32:10.000
But how do you...
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Sorry.
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I think they don't file it because they're scared.
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In all honesty.
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How do you prove women have abuse?
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There's nothing to prove though.
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That's why they don't file it.
00:32:19.000
No, it's not guys.
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I'm from Brazil and he has one of the highest rates of violence against women.
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So it depends on where you are.
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I've done like charity work and working with women.
00:32:27.000
So depending, guys, look, it depends socioeconomically.
00:32:31.000
These things, they are very different.
00:32:34.000
Maybe in Brazil, but hey.
00:32:36.000
Yeah, no, that's why.
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What we're talking about is it depends on where you are.
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Even on an international level, the issue is that they've switched to the Duluth model.
00:32:43.000
Now, what is the Duluth model?
00:32:44.000
This was founded by three feminists.
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And one of them even admitted that it was not correct.
00:32:49.000
Like that the evidence that she was seeing working with women that had been abused
00:32:53.000
did not line up with the model that they made.
00:32:55.000
And basically the model that they made put men because they have more power.
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It's like a very feminist worldview.
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The men have more power.
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They are automatically the oppressor.
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Why do they call the police and they automatically arrest the man?
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Even if the woman's hitting the man, it's because it's all based off of the Duluth model.
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I heard that.
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This happened to me.
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And this, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's happened three times.
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Three times, man.
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CID, man.
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And you see, it's the same.
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I just noticed patterns and you see the same pattern.
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Yeah.
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You're the number one.
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Yeah.
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You're the number one swiped right man on Tinder, right?
00:33:21.000
Exactly.
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I'm like, prime.
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They always do it to men.
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They always do it to men with money, power, and status.
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They would never need.
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You can check the reports if you want.
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They would never need to.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I didn't do anything wrong.
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And that's the problem with the abuse claims is that the system is so skewed one way
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because it's all based on a feminist model that men have more power.
00:33:39.000
But they do have more power.
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What do you mean?
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Physical.
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Physical power.
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Right about a good 60, 70 years ago.
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How would you say that they don't have power?
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Especially if...
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But women have power.
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I know women that are stronger than me.
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Of course.
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I'm not saying that there isn't.
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Yeah, there's definitely women that could take men, you know, even football, sports,
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what not.
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But it doesn't change the fact that...
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I've seen angry tics.
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That's it.
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She could take me out.
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And you do.
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