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00:00:00.000 Have you ever cheated, starting here, go around, and then second?

00:00:04.000 I have never cheated. I have been cheated on once that I'm aware of.

00:00:08.000 And how did you find out?

00:00:10.000 Looking through his phone, actually.

00:00:13.000 Okay, so what apps did you go to?

00:00:16.000 Literally just WhatsApp and also he had some dating apps as well,

00:00:22.000 which were live and the conversations there.

00:00:24.000 Was it your first time looking or had you looked before?

00:00:27.000 That was my first time looking. I already felt there was something not quite right.

00:00:36.000 That's why I looked.

00:00:37.000 How long were you guys dating before you looked?

00:00:39.000 Before I looked, probably about three years.

00:00:41.000 You never looked in his phone once?

00:00:43.000 No, because I trusted him until a point that I didn't and then I was right.

00:00:47.000 And what made you think he was cheating?

00:00:50.000 He changed the mannerisms, the way we were together, it was just different.

00:00:55.000 Was he treating you better or worse?

00:00:57.000 I was getting lots of presents and he was very wealthy, so win-win maybe?

00:01:03.000 I don't know.

00:01:05.000 But it was weird.

00:01:07.000 There was definitely things lacking, like emotionally and stuff.

00:01:10.000 But yeah, he was definitely different.

00:01:12.000 Did you stay with him or did you go?

00:01:14.000 I stayed for a bit because he was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:01:19.000 And he was like all about, you know, making everything work and fixing it.

00:01:23.000 I was like, okay, I'll give you a chance.

00:01:24.000 Okay.

00:01:25.000 But I think deep down, I was like, I can't, it doesn't, it's broken.

00:01:29.000 The trust is broken.

00:01:30.000 If he was making less money, would you have left quicker?

00:01:33.000 Oh my God.

00:01:34.000 You're not getting terrible, man.

00:01:35.000 That is terrible, man.

00:01:36.000 That is terrible, man.

00:01:37.000 I mean.

00:01:38.000 I mean.

00:01:39.000 I mean.

00:01:40.000 I mean.

00:01:41.000 I mean.

00:01:42.000 You know you're the best, Laura.

00:01:43.000 You know you're the best, Laura.

00:01:44.000 You know you're the best, Laura.

00:01:45.000 You know you're the best.

00:01:46.000 We're all about honesty on this show.

00:01:50.000 Yeah.

00:01:51.000 Probably, you know, because once it's broken, it's broken.

00:01:54.000 I have a question.

00:01:55.000 I have a question.

00:01:56.000 If he was making more, would you have stayed longer?

00:01:59.000 I mean.

00:02:00.000 No, I think, no, there came a point where I was like, no, I'm done.

00:02:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:02:05.000 And like money.

00:02:06.000 What was that point?

00:02:07.000 No, no, because, because I think when the trust is broken, the trust is broken.

00:02:12.000 So like, although I'm like, yeah, we can make it work.

00:02:15.000 And he was really trying, like really trying.

00:02:17.000 I was just like, I can't get that.

00:02:19.000 It's done.

00:02:20.000 You know, once it, you're just like, I can't.

00:02:22.000 And you, and once that trust is broken, then I think it's really hard for a relationship

00:02:26.000 to.

00:02:27.000 Yeah.

00:02:28.000 But I think because we spent so long together and we were good for so long and he was willing

00:02:32.500 to own up to it and rectify it and blah, blah, blah.

00:02:36.000 I was like, okay, let's try.

00:02:37.000 But realistically, it's very rare that that works.

00:02:40.000 So I have a question.

00:02:41.000 If you were single the rest of your life, would you have wished you worked it out with

00:02:45.000 him?

00:02:46.000 No, because he's not the one.

00:02:48.000 The one.

00:02:49.000 He's not the one.

00:02:50.000 I don't believe in the one.

00:02:51.000 I believe.

00:02:52.000 I believe.

00:02:53.000 I believe there is a one.

00:02:54.000 But I think, I think when I was in love with him, I probably would have said that, but

00:02:58.000 I'm not in love with him.

00:02:59.000 And that is way gone.

00:03:01.000 That, that emotion, that emotional draw or tie.

00:03:04.000 So I think, nah.

00:03:05.000 So second question.

00:03:06.000 So you've never cheated physically.

00:03:08.000 Never cheated.

00:03:09.000 Have you ever, have you ever flirted with another guy?

00:03:11.000 It depends what you mean by flirting.

00:03:13.000 I'm quite flirtatious.

00:03:14.000 It's just because of some of the stuff that I do work that I do, but, but never with intent.

00:03:20.000 Okay.

00:03:21.000 You never wanted it to go anywhere.

00:03:22.000 No.

00:03:23.000 Did you have guy friends at all when you were in that relationship?

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 I still have a lot of guy friends.

00:03:27.000 Okay.

00:03:28.000 One of my best is over there.

00:03:30.000 Okay.

00:03:31.000 Okay.

00:03:32.000 Um, what about, what about messages?

00:03:35.000 Did you ever respond to messages from other guys?

00:03:37.000 No.

00:03:38.000 No messages.

00:03:39.000 I shut it down.

00:03:40.000 I'm very honest.

00:03:41.000 Shut it down.

00:03:42.000 Shut it down.

00:03:43.000 Shut it down.

00:03:44.000 Maybe light flirting some guy friends, but nothing physical.

00:03:47.000 No, no.

00:03:48.000 Yeah.

00:03:49.000 I'm very fussy.

00:03:50.000 I really, if I like someone, that's the only person I want to be with.

00:03:54.000 Okay.

00:03:55.000 What about when women do cheat?

00:03:56.000 Are they cheating to leave typically?

00:03:58.000 Do you think?

00:03:59.000 Oh, I think some women cheat.

00:04:02.000 I think they kind of cheat for a one-upmanship rather than, so you did it so I can do it.

00:04:07.000 You know what I mean?

00:04:08.000 Whereas, um, I think that there is an element that it's, you know, escapism and they, and they want out of what they're in.

00:04:15.000 But I think it's that kind of one-upmanship.

00:04:19.000 How do you know?

00:04:20.000 How do you know?

00:04:21.000 Well, just cause I have a lot of girlfriends.

00:04:23.000 I have a lot of guy friends.

00:04:25.000 I've never cheated.

00:04:26.000 Just getting out of there.

00:04:27.000 You've never cheated, but you know women who've cheated back.

00:04:30.000 Yeah.

00:04:31.000 Okay.

00:04:32.000 And is that usually, does it work out for them?

00:04:33.000 Very rare, very rare.

00:04:39.000 Okay.

00:04:40.000 Have you ever cheated?

00:04:41.000 No.

00:04:42.000 Okay.

00:04:43.000 Have you ever been cheated on?

00:04:44.000 No.

00:04:45.000 Okay.

00:04:46.000 Have you ever cheated?

00:04:47.000 I've never cheated.

00:04:48.000 Um, I've experienced someone being unfaithful to me, but we're not even together in the first place.

00:04:53.000 So I don't think it counts as cheating.

00:04:55.000 So you weren't, so how was he unfaithful if you weren't together?

00:04:58.000 Um, I just, we were doing very official things.

00:05:02.000 Okay.

00:05:03.000 So the sex, you guys were having sex and then he was, we didn't have like a proper talk.

00:05:12.000 Okay.

00:05:13.000 But then I just energetically felt like he was with someone else.

00:05:16.000 So then I don't know.

00:05:19.000 I don't know if it counts as cheating.

00:05:21.000 What do you think?

00:05:22.000 If, if you never really established something, but, but then you kind of have?

00:05:26.000 No, I don't think it counts.

00:05:28.000 I mean, do you guys raise your hand?

00:05:30.000 Raise your hand.

00:05:31.000 Does that count as cheating?

00:05:32.000 I would say, yeah.

00:05:33.000 I think she says yes.

00:05:34.000 I'm on the, on the edge.

00:05:35.000 Oh, three.

00:05:36.000 You think yes?

00:05:37.000 Yeah.

00:05:38.000 If you're, if you're not together, you think it counts as cheating?

00:05:41.000 What is together?

00:05:42.000 Yeah.

00:05:43.000 Yeah.

00:05:44.000 What does it mean?

00:05:45.000 What does it mean?

00:05:46.000 What does it mean?

00:05:47.000 What does it mean?

00:05:48.000 Yeah.

00:05:49.000 He was consistently asking me out to be official.

00:05:50.000 Actually.

00:05:51.000 I was kind of, you know, for me, it's about action.

00:05:54.000 So instead of saying, yes, I can be a girlfriend, I have to receive girlfriend treatments and,

00:06:01.000 and see your consistency.

00:06:02.000 Okay.

00:06:03.000 Okay.

00:06:04.000 So, so he failed basically.

00:06:06.000 Maybe, maybe he took it as a no and then was starting to move on.

00:06:10.000 It's kind of, you know what I mean?

00:06:12.000 Yeah.

00:06:13.000 Like if like, it's like, if you asked a guy to be your boyfriend or like, if you, it's going

00:06:17.000 somewhere and he says, no, wouldn't you move on?

00:06:20.000 I was taking my time to decide.

00:06:22.000 Well, yeah.

00:06:23.000 I mean, maybe he was doing the same thing.

00:06:24.000 Yeah.

00:06:25.000 Okay.

00:06:26.000 What about you?

00:06:27.000 Have you cheated?

00:06:28.000 Kind of.

00:06:29.000 I think she's honest though.

00:06:32.000 I like that.

00:06:33.000 I like that.

00:06:34.000 Okay.

00:06:35.000 How would you say kind of?

00:06:37.000 Well, I was living with my boyfriend.

00:06:40.000 I hope he's not watching.

00:06:41.000 You don't really like that.

00:06:42.000 Someone's going to send to him.

00:06:45.000 And it was like a work thing.

00:06:47.000 It was proximity.

00:06:48.000 It was just some kissing and a bit of a fumble in my lunch break.

00:06:51.000 In your lunch break?

00:06:53.000 Okay.

00:06:54.000 I got to be honest.

00:06:55.000 I got to be honest.

00:06:56.000 I got to be honest.

00:06:57.000 This is a yes.

00:06:58.000 How is this a maybe?

00:06:59.000 Kind of.

00:07:00.000 Kind of, you know.

00:07:01.000 I kind of cheated.

00:07:02.000 He was like, you're kissing.

00:07:03.000 Oh, shit.

00:07:04.000 What if he only kissed another chick?

00:07:06.000 Would that be cheating?

00:07:07.000 Yes.

00:07:08.000 I don't know.

00:07:09.000 It didn't happen.

00:07:10.000 So I don't know how I feel about it or felt about it.

00:07:12.000 Okay.

00:07:13.000 What if he only kissed another chick?

00:07:15.000 Would that be cheating?

00:07:16.000 Yes.

00:07:17.000 I don't know.

00:07:18.000 It didn't happen.

00:07:19.000 So I don't know how I feel about it or felt about it.

00:07:22.000 Okay.

00:07:23.000 And did you tell him or no?

00:07:24.000 No.

00:07:25.000 Did he ever find out?

00:07:26.000 He knows now.

00:07:27.000 I mean, I'm assuming it didn't work out.

00:07:30.000 No, but he's still one of my good friends.

00:07:33.000 Okay.

00:07:34.000 Sorry.

00:07:35.000 Sorry.

00:07:36.000 In your back pocket.

00:07:40.000 Have you ever cheated?

00:07:41.000 I have cheated.

00:07:42.000 Yeah.

00:07:43.000 Quite a bit.

00:07:44.000 I was bad.

00:07:45.000 Tell me.

00:07:46.000 I appreciate the honest.

00:07:47.000 The men are much more likely to tell you.

00:07:49.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:50.000 I mean, I can't lie.

00:07:51.000 I can't lie.

00:07:52.000 Okay.

00:07:53.000 So, how did you cheat?

00:07:55.000 Ooh.

00:07:56.000 Well, the first time, she probably cheated on me and then I just went nuts.

00:08:01.000 Okay.

00:08:02.000 So, how did you find out she was cheating?

00:08:03.000 Email.

00:08:04.000 I checked her email.

00:08:05.000 She was emailing?

00:08:06.000 Love fucking letters.

00:08:07.000 Oh, I couldn't believe it.

00:08:08.000 Not even Instagram.

00:08:09.000 Email.

00:08:10.000 Wow.

00:08:11.000 Email.

00:08:12.000 Who is she emailing?

00:08:13.000 Very professional.

00:08:14.000 I cannot.

00:08:15.000 Who is she emailing?

00:08:17.000 She's probably going to watch this, so I can't.

00:08:18.000 How did you get into her email though?

00:08:19.000 Yeah.

00:08:20.000 I knew her password.

00:08:21.000 Ooh.

00:08:22.000 That's okay.

00:08:23.000 It's okay.

00:08:24.000 It's all right.

00:08:25.000 Be honest.

00:08:26.000 Be honest.

00:08:27.000 So, you caught her emailing.

00:08:28.000 Who is she emailing?

00:08:29.000 Just some dude.

00:08:30.000 Like, on holiday.

00:08:31.000 She met him on holiday and she was emailing.

00:08:34.000 Yeah.

00:08:35.000 And so, who did you cheat with to get back?

00:08:38.000 Ooh.

00:08:39.000 Ooh.

00:08:40.000 Not names, but like, loads.

00:08:43.000 Loads.

00:08:44.000 Oh, loads.

00:08:45.000 Absolutely.

00:08:46.000 Dating apps.

00:08:47.000 Anyone personal, like, close to her?

00:08:49.000 Ooh.

00:08:50.000 Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

00:08:53.000 But she knew them.

00:08:54.000 Yeah, some of them.

00:08:55.000 Yeah.

00:08:56.000 I'm not like that.

00:08:57.000 Did she know?

00:08:59.000 Yeah, Laura's seen a lot.

00:09:01.000 Yeah.

00:09:02.000 I've seen it a lot.

00:09:03.000 Yeah, we used to work together.

00:09:04.000 And what did you say when he was cheating?

00:09:06.000 Did you support him?

00:09:07.000 Were you like, she kind of deserves it, right?

00:09:09.000 No.

00:09:10.000 I was like, I was like, clean breaks.

00:09:11.000 I'm all about clean breaks.

00:09:12.000 That's true.

00:09:13.000 I should have clean-baked it.

00:09:14.000 Yeah.

00:09:15.000 He didn't.

00:09:16.000 Fuck it.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, he didn't.

00:09:18.000 He really didn't.

00:09:19.000 I did eventually.

00:09:20.000 Are you guys still-

00:09:21.000 We are friends.

00:09:22.000 Yeah, we are friends.

00:09:23.000 And we're actually laughing about it over the other week.

00:09:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:26.000 Other months, rather.

00:09:27.000 Would you ever get back with her or no?

00:09:29.000 Nah.

00:09:30.000 Nah.

00:09:31.000 Nah.

00:09:32.000 Too far gone.

00:09:33.000 Nah, it's all good.

00:09:34.000 And how did you hide it from her?

00:09:35.000 I didn't.

00:09:36.000 Brazen.

00:09:37.000 I actually didn't.

00:09:38.000 Like, nah.

00:09:39.000 Oh, you didn't hide it at all.

00:09:40.000 I just done it.

00:09:41.000 Like, yeah.

00:09:42.000 She just didn't even-

00:09:43.000 I did what I did.

00:09:44.000 And did she leave when she-

00:09:45.000 No, I left.

00:09:46.000 Okay.

00:09:47.000 It was actually me like, I left.

00:09:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:49.000 Did she find out?

00:09:50.000 Mm-mm.

00:09:51.000 Nah, she thought I was this angel.

00:09:53.000 Like, she's the best, but she thought I was a proper angel.

00:09:56.000 Like, yeah.

00:09:57.000 And when I was about to tell her over dinner, like, everything that happened, like, she was like,

00:10:01.000 it helps, don't tell me, don't tell me.

00:10:02.000 Like, I look at you as a, like, as an angel, so I was like, all right, find a way to tell

00:10:07.000 you.

00:10:08.000 I'll tell everyone else and say it.

00:10:09.000 So how many girls was it?

00:10:14.000 It was a lot.

00:10:15.000 Like, 20, maybe?

00:10:16.000 Oh, 20.

00:10:17.000 I thought you were going to say 50.

00:10:18.000 That's actually-

00:10:19.000 Oh, no, no.

00:10:20.000 No, not 50.

00:10:21.000 Nah.

00:10:22.000 Add on 10 then, innit?

00:10:23.000 30.

00:10:24.000 Nah.

00:10:25.000 That's it.

00:10:26.000 It was quite cool.

00:10:27.000 Yeah.

00:10:28.000 I was working in clubs at the time.

00:10:30.000 In your experience, if a girl finds out about another, if a girl finds out about other

00:10:35.000 women, does she stay or go typically?

00:10:40.000 It depends.

00:10:41.000 Stay.

00:10:42.000 Stay.

00:10:43.000 I don't know.

00:10:44.000 Maybe they stay for some reason.

00:10:45.000 Yeah.

00:10:46.000 They do.

00:10:47.000 I can vouch for that.

00:10:48.000 I can vouch for that.

00:10:49.000 Yeah.

00:10:50.000 Okay.

00:10:51.000 Mr. Tinder.

00:10:52.000 Can I, can I ask you a question?

00:10:54.000 It depends on what it is.

00:10:57.000 I want to know what you define cheating as first.

00:11:01.000 Like, what is cheating to you?

00:11:03.000 We were-

00:11:04.000 Because everyone sees cheating as a different thing.

00:11:06.000 That was actually-

00:11:07.000 You're kind of ahead of me.

00:11:08.000 That was going to be my next question.

00:11:09.000 Oh, is it?

00:11:10.000 Oh.

00:11:11.000 But let's for now make it physical.

00:11:12.000 Physical cheating.

00:11:13.000 Kissing.

00:11:14.000 Any-

00:11:15.000 Kissing or further?

00:11:16.000 Yeah.

00:11:17.000 Is it deceiving someone behind their back or is it doing it when they know about it?

00:11:22.000 Yeah.

00:11:23.000 So, she knew.

00:11:24.000 She was like, I can't lock Mr. Tinder down.

00:11:26.000 In that case, no.

00:11:29.000 Okay.

00:11:30.000 So, you've had like an open relationship type thing?

00:11:34.000 No, not at all.

00:11:35.000 No, I've had girlfriends and I've been single.

00:11:39.000 Wow.

00:11:40.000 I mean, I need to understand.

00:11:43.000 Okay.

00:11:44.000 Okay.

00:11:45.000 So, you've had a girlfriend?

00:11:46.000 I've had a few.

00:11:47.000 Yeah.

00:11:48.000 Okay.

00:11:49.000 And so-

00:11:50.000 To be honest with you, everyone sees cheating as a different thing.

00:11:53.000 So, I'm trying to find out what cheating is to you.

00:11:56.000 Yeah.

00:11:57.000 So, I'm-

00:11:58.000 Something physical.

00:11:59.000 Physical.

00:12:00.000 While you're with someone.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, but if they know about it, then it's not cheating, isn't it?

00:12:02.000 Yeah.

00:12:03.000 I would agree with you.

00:12:04.000 It's not cheating if they know about it.

00:12:05.000 Yeah.

00:12:06.000 But, so my question is, like, so you did like a one-sided open relationship where it

00:12:09.000 was like open on yours?

00:12:10.000 Yeah.

00:12:11.000 I could say that.

00:12:12.000 Yeah.

00:12:13.000 Yeah.

00:12:14.000 At first.

00:12:15.000 Yeah.

00:12:16.000 And I was a bit of a playboy, to be fair.

00:12:17.000 Okay.

00:12:18.000 Yeah.

00:12:19.000 I was quite bad.

00:12:20.000 Used to party and stuff.

00:12:21.000 Drink a lot.

00:12:22.000 Used to?

00:12:23.000 Yeah.

00:12:24.000 I'm good now.

00:12:25.000 I'm really good now.

00:12:26.000 I'm a settled man and stuff like that.

00:12:27.000 Yeah.

00:12:28.000 But yeah, I would say, yeah.

00:12:29.000 Do you know what?

00:12:30.000 Most of my girlfriends cheated on me.

00:12:31.000 So, I found that as a good excuse to cheat on them back.

00:12:34.000 Oh, okay.

00:12:35.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 I was quite good.

00:12:37.000 Like, if I said I'm in a relationship with someone, I'd be like, right, I'm in a

00:12:40.000 relationship.

00:12:41.000 But then they'll cheat on me.

00:12:42.000 And I'm like, right, I'm going back to Stefan now.

00:12:44.000 And I told them about it as well.

00:12:47.000 But yeah.

00:12:48.000 Okay.

00:12:49.000 And there'd be girls to meet.

00:12:50.000 Like, my girlfriends were so sly about it as well.

00:12:52.000 But I'm quite clever.

00:12:53.000 So, like.

00:12:54.000 What do you mean?

00:12:55.000 I'm intelligent.

00:12:56.000 Like, when it comes to dating, I'm like, super intelligent.

00:12:59.000 Hence, where I got right.

00:13:01.000 Okay.

00:13:02.000 I'm like the modern day hitch.

00:13:04.000 So, I'm like a detective in love.

00:13:06.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:13:07.000 So, yeah.

00:13:08.000 I found them, like, hard.

00:13:10.000 And they still deny it.

00:13:11.000 It's so funny.

00:13:12.000 It's so funny.

00:13:13.000 How would you catch them cheating?

00:13:14.000 There's various things.

00:13:15.000 So, like.

00:13:16.000 It's like.

00:13:17.000 So, they would ask me questions.

00:13:18.000 The first.

00:13:19.000 The biggest one is I'll go out.

00:13:20.000 Obviously, I'm a model.

00:13:21.000 So, I'll go out.

00:13:23.000 I'm on TV as well.

00:13:24.000 So, I'm going to take pictures of people in a club.

00:13:26.000 Why are you taking photos with them?

00:13:28.000 Right?

00:13:29.000 Well, obviously, if I go out, someone's going to take a photo of me.

00:13:31.000 So, I don't know.

00:13:32.000 If they're asking me that question, I'm like, I'll wait for them to go out.

00:13:35.000 And then I'll go and tag photos and stuff and see them in photos.

00:13:38.000 I'm like, why are you taking photos and why are you even asking me?

00:13:41.000 So, that would be the first thing.

00:13:42.000 If someone asks you a direct question, you have a direct answer.

00:13:45.000 But normally, they don't.

00:13:46.000 So, then I sort of like, if you're asking me a question, then what's the reason that you're

00:13:50.000 answering it?

00:13:51.000 Oh.

00:13:52.000 So, you're saying they're projecting?

00:13:53.000 Mostly.

00:13:54.000 They were cheating.

00:13:55.000 Like, where have you been?

00:13:56.000 And they clearly know where you've been.

00:13:57.000 So, it's like, when someone asks the whereabouts or why you're doing something, it's normally

00:14:01.000 because they're asking for themselves.

00:14:03.000 Oh.

00:14:04.000 Yeah.

00:14:05.000 Can I have an example?

00:14:06.000 I'm sorry.

00:14:07.000 Can I have an example?

00:14:08.000 So, they would be cheating with the guys they took pictures with?

00:14:11.000 So, for example, they'd be like, why are you taking photos with someone?

00:14:17.000 That's normal.

00:14:18.000 To me, that's normal.

00:14:19.000 Right.

00:14:20.000 But then they would do it.

00:14:21.000 So, I'm like, if that's a problem to you, and you're doing it, then you must be cheating

00:14:26.000 on me.

00:14:27.000 And then I'd go in.

00:14:28.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:14:29.000 Is that like, who are you texting?

00:14:30.000 That kind of question.

00:14:31.000 Yeah.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:33.000 Like, who are you texting?

00:14:34.000 Or like, where's your phone?

00:14:35.000 Or, do you know what I mean?

00:14:36.000 Like, then you're doing, you're hiding something.

00:14:38.000 So, that's normally how I found out.

00:14:40.000 Oh.

00:14:41.000 Yeah.

00:14:42.000 Because I'm quite open in me.

00:14:43.000 If I'm texting a girl mate, I'll just say it.

00:14:45.000 Or, if I'm taking a phone, even if I've gone back to an after party and there's five,

00:14:49.000 six girls in with my mates, I'll say it.

00:14:51.000 And then they go out.

00:14:52.000 And the fact they've asked me, and I've told them, I'm like, why are you

00:14:55.000 doing it then?

00:14:56.000 So, then you dig deeper.

00:14:57.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:58.000 I end up getting hurt.

00:14:59.000 But there you go.

00:15:00.000 That's me.

00:15:01.000 So, how did you find out?

00:15:02.000 Did you message the guys that she was taking pictures with?

00:15:05.000 No, no.

00:15:06.000 I've never messaged.

00:15:07.000 Looked through her phone?

00:15:08.000 Like, how'd you get hurt?

00:15:09.000 You know what's funny?

00:15:10.000 Like, because I've been in the limelight quite a while, they start messaging me.

00:15:15.000 They start liking photos.

00:15:16.000 Like, you see them connect.

00:15:18.000 Because I do social media as well.

00:15:19.000 Yeah.

00:15:20.000 Like, you just see the network happening.

00:15:22.000 And also, if they've been out, if an ex-girlfriend's been out on a night out or whatever, like,

00:15:27.000 you can see who they've been with because they start following them and stuff.

00:15:30.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:15:31.000 And like, oh, they're in Bournemouth.

00:15:33.000 Oh, they're in Mayfair.

00:15:34.000 And it all lines up.

00:15:35.000 And you're like, oh, okay.

00:15:36.000 And then you sort of watch it for a while.

00:15:37.000 And like, oh, you're cheating on me.

00:15:39.000 So, yeah, that normally happens to me.

00:15:40.000 Have you ever been wrong?

00:15:41.000 Sorry to...

00:15:42.000 Have you ever been wrong?

00:15:43.000 Assuming they have.

00:15:44.000 Do you know what?

00:15:45.000 Like, I haven't...

00:15:46.000 I've always...

00:15:47.000 I've always known my whereabouts.

00:15:48.000 I've known they've been...

00:15:49.000 Like, if someone's been with someone, they've not said they've been with them.

00:15:52.000 To me, that's cheating.

00:15:53.000 Whether it's physical or not.

00:15:54.000 Like, if you ask someone to question, it's like, oh, who was you with?

00:15:57.000 Was you with like...

00:15:58.000 Oh, because...

00:15:59.000 So, was you with four guys?

00:16:00.000 Did you go back to that house?

00:16:01.000 The fact they didn't say that to you is cheating to me.

00:16:03.000 What's your definition of cheating?

00:16:05.000 Like, what do you consider?

00:16:06.000 Oh, deceiving someone behind their back.

00:16:08.000 So, does it have to be physical?

00:16:10.000 Not at all.

00:16:11.000 Not at all.

00:16:12.000 Just...

00:16:13.000 So, wait, by that...

00:16:14.000 Yeah, just...

00:16:15.000 Like, yeah, come on.

00:16:16.000 By that logic, if a girl lies about her body count, is it cheating?

00:16:19.000 Because she's deceiving you?

00:16:24.000 Yeah.

00:16:25.000 Yeah, pretty much.

00:16:26.000 I'm like, well, just be open.

00:16:27.000 Because I go in at the beginning.

00:16:28.000 I'm like, yeah, I'll just go.

00:16:29.000 And they go, yeah, 20.

00:16:31.000 And then you find out, oh, this...

00:16:33.000 You found out 20 in the space of a month.

00:16:36.000 So, you're like, where's that 20 come from then?

00:16:39.000 Is it 40?

00:16:40.000 And where's the other 20 on top?

00:16:42.000 So, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:43.000 I wouldn't even want to know their body count.

00:16:45.000 No, I wouldn't know.

00:16:46.000 I like...

00:16:47.000 Because they ask you.

00:16:48.000 If they ask me...

00:16:49.000 Yeah, they ask you, I don't give it away.

00:16:50.000 And I'm honest about it, it just makes me want to be dishonest going forward.

00:16:52.000 But my thing with body count is, how can you ever really know who's telling the truth?

00:16:56.000 Yeah, but...

00:16:57.000 Like, you can't...

00:16:58.000 Yeah, but if you say, like, 10 and you're 30 years old, like, you know something to be...

00:17:02.000 Like, if I haven't started sleeping with people until I'm, like, 27, 28, then of course that number can be...

00:17:07.000 But what if you're with someone and you find out they've been with 12 people after?

00:17:10.000 But that's what I'm saying.

00:17:11.000 How do you...

00:17:12.000 You can't always find out.

00:17:13.000 But you can tell, just based on...

00:17:14.000 How can you tell?

00:17:15.000 Because women...

00:17:16.000 I feel like that's quite a general thing to say.

00:17:17.000 But it depends.

00:17:18.000 I disagree on that.

00:17:19.000 I'm not saying it's 100%, but when women slip up, it always comes out.

00:17:28.000 Yeah, look, the thing is, like, 2 off, 4, 5, 10, whatever, but when you're, like, 50 off, or 100, then there's a problem.

00:17:33.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:17:34.000 But that's my point.

00:17:35.000 I don't think we can ever tell.

00:17:37.000 What, 50 or 100 off?

00:17:38.000 No, no, no, no.

00:17:39.000 I'm saying everybody's body count.

00:17:40.000 So if I was to say right now that my body count's 10...

00:17:42.000 What is your body count?

00:17:43.000 What is your body count?

00:17:44.000 There's no physical weight.

00:17:45.000 What is your one?

00:17:46.000 There's no...

00:17:47.000 You're gonna say no weight.

00:17:48.000 But you haven't answered my question.

00:17:49.000 You wouldn't be able to know if I'm lying or not.

00:17:52.000 If I've gone higher or if I've gone lower.

00:17:54.000 That's, like, there's no concrete.

00:17:55.000 Yeah, but I just think the truth comes out of people...

00:17:57.000 It comes out of names.

00:17:58.000 It does.

00:17:59.000 I mean, it's awesome.

00:18:00.000 I'll give you an example, because, like, I've had hundreds of women come on the show.

00:18:04.000 It's like, one girl will say something on the podcast, but eventually I hear about someone she's slept with.

00:18:09.000 But again...

00:18:10.000 So it's like...

00:18:13.000 People have reputations.

00:18:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:16.000 Like, shit comes out about people.

00:18:17.000 I don't think it was that connected.

00:18:19.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:20.000 I don't think...

00:18:21.000 You know what?

00:18:22.000 You know what?

00:18:23.000 It's not the number.

00:18:24.000 Definitely you would be.

00:18:25.000 You would be surprised.

00:18:26.000 I'll get different show guests come on.

00:18:28.000 And then, like, some guy will be like, oh, I slept with that one, that one, that.

00:18:31.000 Like, it's like...

00:18:32.000 What?

00:18:33.000 But he could be lying.

00:18:34.000 Exactly.

00:18:35.000 That's my point.

00:18:36.000 You can never ever...

00:18:37.000 Okay, you're right.

00:18:38.000 He couldn't be lying.

00:18:39.000 But when you...

00:18:40.000 You won't completely tell.

00:18:41.000 But then when it's like three guys have the same story, you're like, okay, God.

00:18:44.000 That's...

00:18:45.000 That's bias.

00:18:46.000 That's bias.

00:18:47.000 Oh, my God.

00:18:48.000 Oh, my God.

00:18:49.000 No, no, no.

00:18:50.000 But you can tell guys cap, too.

00:18:51.000 Yeah, of course.

00:18:52.000 Guys cap about money.

00:18:53.000 That's the biggest thing.

00:18:54.000 Guys will be like, oh, I have this company.

00:18:56.000 And we'll look it up.

00:18:57.000 It's dissolved.

00:18:58.000 It's interesting to say that because...

00:19:01.000 Statistically, men are...

00:19:04.000 Like, men lie more about their body count than women.

00:19:09.000 Like, they will...

00:19:10.000 I'll tell you.

00:19:11.000 Not just lie.

00:19:12.000 Not just lie.

00:19:13.000 Sorry.

00:19:14.000 Not just lie.

00:19:15.000 But they are the ones that notch it up.

00:19:17.000 Exactly.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, exaggerate.

00:19:19.000 Women don't...

00:19:20.000 Men exaggerate?

00:19:21.000 Yeah, men.

00:19:22.000 Statistically, it's online.

00:19:23.000 You can look it up.

00:19:24.000 It's men.

00:19:25.000 Statistically, men exaggerate.

00:19:26.000 No, I don't think so.

00:19:27.000 So it's hard to know what body count you actually have.

00:19:30.000 Men will try and...

00:19:31.000 But it's statistics.

00:19:32.000 It's not my opinion.

00:19:33.000 No, that's not true.

00:19:34.000 That's not true.

00:19:35.000 That was written by a woman.

00:19:36.000 Let's just...

00:19:37.000 Well, there's two problems, okay?

00:19:39.000 One, feminists have ruined, like, all data.

00:19:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:42.000 They infiltrated schools in the 1970s and 80s.

00:19:46.000 But I will say, men do lie.

00:19:48.000 I would agree.

00:19:49.000 Men tend to lie up.

00:19:50.000 Women tend to lie down.

00:19:51.000 Because it makes sense in society.

00:19:52.000 But wait, wait.

00:19:53.000 But who lies more, men or women?

00:19:55.000 Oh, no.

00:19:57.000 No, they both lie.

00:19:59.000 That's a tricky question.

00:20:01.000 They both lie.

00:20:02.000 It depends.

00:20:03.000 It depends on the circumstances.

00:20:04.000 Exactly.

00:20:05.000 They're both human.

00:20:06.000 They're both human.

00:20:07.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:20:08.000 I'm banning a word.

00:20:09.000 No, it depends.

00:20:10.000 There's no, no, no, no.

00:20:11.000 There's no, it depends.

00:20:12.000 You gotta pick one side.

00:20:13.000 What about kinda?

00:20:14.000 What about kinda?

00:20:15.000 No, no.

00:20:16.000 Go on.

00:20:17.000 I think women lie more, for sure.

00:20:20.000 Because they suffer more judgment.

00:20:22.000 Yeah.

00:20:23.000 No.

00:20:24.000 I think women suffer more judgment from the guy.

00:20:26.000 And usually it's always the...

00:20:27.000 Mostly the guys asking the girl.

00:20:29.000 Her body counted the way around.

00:20:31.000 Yeah.

00:20:32.000 Because usually we presume that the guy is left with a lot of girls.

00:20:34.000 You're with the wrong guys.

00:20:35.000 Of course.

00:20:36.000 That's why I broke up with them.

00:20:40.000 Yeah.

00:20:41.000 But you need to understand something.

00:20:42.000 Men and women lie for different reasons.

00:20:44.000 So you cannot determine who's lying more.

00:20:45.000 Yeah.

00:20:46.000 Yeah.

00:20:47.000 So men lie about the money because guess what?

00:20:49.000 It works.

00:20:50.000 Yeah.

00:20:51.000 Yeah.

00:20:52.000 True.

00:20:53.000 There's no lies.

00:20:54.000 It's facts.

00:20:55.000 It's not nice, but women like...

00:20:56.000 We lie about the things that society finds important.

00:20:59.000 And women lie about their body count because it works.

00:21:02.000 Yeah.

00:21:03.000 In all honesty, I think women lie more because it's like we have the filters on Instagram.

00:21:08.000 We have the caked on makeup.

00:21:09.000 We have the BBLs.

00:21:10.000 But again, men have the cards.

00:21:11.000 They've got the clothes.

00:21:12.000 They've got the...

00:21:13.000 Men have the steroids.

00:21:14.000 I'll tell you.

00:21:15.000 I'll tell you.

00:21:16.000 I've just had so many people come on the show.

00:21:20.000 It's like so many girls come on.

00:21:22.000 They'll follow me on Instagram.

00:21:23.000 And I'm like, who is that?

00:21:25.000 And they don't look like they're mixed.

00:21:27.000 Yeah.

00:21:28.000 That's true.

00:21:29.000 Men, it's just not the same.

00:21:30.000 They don't do it as much.

00:21:31.000 They do lie about money.

00:21:32.000 I will say that.

00:21:33.000 Yeah.

00:21:34.000 Like, but when it comes to looks, come on.

00:21:37.000 Women lie way more.

00:21:38.000 I mean, I guess in a way, yes, it's just more socially acceptable with women.

00:21:43.000 However, there are a lot of guys, depending on the spectrum of guy that you're like talking

00:21:47.000 to or dealing with, they are very physically orientated.

00:21:52.000 So they do go to the gym, whatever it takes to get that buff body.

00:21:56.000 Who?

00:21:57.000 They do have like Botox.

00:21:58.000 Girls?

00:21:59.000 No, guys.

00:22:00.000 I'm saying guys do it too.

00:22:01.000 Botox for guys.

00:22:02.000 I don't think so.

00:22:03.000 Yes.

00:22:04.000 You'd be surprised.

00:22:05.000 What type of guy?

00:22:06.000 No way.

00:22:07.000 Going to the gym for a bum or muscles is good.

00:22:10.000 Like BBL.

00:22:11.000 But they do added extras, but it's so subtle and it's not spoken about because it's the

00:22:17.000 focus is mainly on women because the beauty industry is funneled for women.

00:22:21.000 Do you genuinely think it's equally common?

00:22:23.000 It's not equally common, but it is common.

00:22:25.000 Do you think it's close?

00:22:26.000 Like the amount of filters, Botox, it's close.

00:22:29.000 I'll tell you something.

00:22:30.000 From personal experience, a man, all they want to do is have a hair transplant.

00:22:36.000 And they hit like 26 hair transplant.

00:22:39.000 That's enough for a man.

00:22:40.000 They don't feel comfortable talking about it, but I do.

00:22:43.000 I love my hair now.

00:22:45.000 You have one, Steph.

00:22:47.000 Have you ever cheated?

00:22:50.000 Yeah.

00:22:51.000 Before that, I want to say something.

00:22:52.000 All self-reported data about cheating, money or whatever we speak now are unreliable.

00:22:58.000 You do like social desirability bias.

00:23:01.000 That's it.

00:23:02.000 Yeah.

00:23:03.000 So we cannot really determine.

00:23:04.000 Yes, I have cheated before and I have been cheated as well.

00:23:07.000 Okay.

00:23:08.000 What's cheating to you then, man?

00:23:09.000 What's cheating?

00:23:10.000 Well, let's talk about the physical that we started now and then we will go farther.

00:23:15.000 So how did you cheat?

00:23:17.000 Like how did you meet women you wanted to cheat with?

00:23:19.000 Like I was young, like 16, 17.

00:23:22.000 I was DJing.

00:23:23.000 I was just in the clubs every night and it was easy.

00:23:27.000 Okay.

00:23:28.000 So you would meet them in person?

00:23:29.000 Yes.

00:23:30.000 Did you ever cheat on dating apps?

00:23:31.000 I never had dating apps.

00:23:32.000 Okay.

00:23:33.000 Did you ever find out?

00:23:34.000 Yeah.

00:23:35.000 All the times.

00:23:36.000 She caught me many times as well.

00:23:40.000 Wow.

00:23:41.000 Like red handed.

00:23:42.000 Oh.

00:23:43.000 And what happened there, man?

00:23:44.000 Many times.

00:23:45.000 Did you get a kick from that?

00:23:46.000 So how did she catch you?

00:23:48.000 Like she would like entering the house or something.

00:23:51.000 Like you would have a girl over?

00:23:52.000 Yeah.

00:23:53.000 Or more.

00:23:54.000 Or a couple.

00:23:55.000 Okay.

00:23:56.000 Okay.

00:23:57.000 And she would come over.

00:23:58.000 And what happened?

00:23:59.000 She would kick them out?

00:24:00.000 No, I kicked them out and I stayed with you after.

00:24:03.000 Oh.

00:24:04.000 Did you kick them out?

00:24:05.000 I'm not proud of that, by the way.

00:24:07.000 Guys, guys, guys.

00:24:09.000 Did you ever have sex?

00:24:11.000 Wait.

00:24:12.000 I'm not proud of that.

00:24:13.000 Did you ever have sex with one girl and then have sex with her right after?

00:24:19.000 And she knowingly did that.

00:24:21.000 Yes.

00:24:22.000 In your experience, do women stay after they're cheated on?

00:24:28.000 Unfortunately, some do, but they shouldn't.

00:24:31.000 If they respect themselves, they should just leave.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, not should.

00:24:34.000 I'm asking what they do.

00:24:35.000 Yeah.

00:24:36.000 Yeah, they stay.

00:24:38.000 Okay.

00:24:39.000 Some of them they do.

00:24:40.000 Okay.

00:24:41.000 Would you say more stay or more go?

00:24:43.000 That depends.

00:24:44.000 I'd say more stay.

00:24:45.000 No, no, no.

00:24:46.000 Thank you.

00:24:47.000 Did you ask them to stay or did they say, I want to stay?

00:24:50.000 Because there's a difference.

00:24:51.000 No, no one.

00:24:52.000 They want attention immediately after.

00:24:54.000 No one say, oh, I want to stay.

00:24:56.000 But do you ever, do you say, I won't do it again.

00:24:58.000 I'm sorry.

00:24:59.000 I love you.

00:25:00.000 You're the one, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:01.000 Did you buy him a Porsche?

00:25:02.000 Did you buy him a Porsche?

00:25:03.000 Yeah, but I say I'm not.

00:25:04.000 Did you buy them a nice penthouse?

00:25:06.000 A Lamborghini A.

00:25:07.000 Put a ring on it.

00:25:12.000 So I don't understand.

00:25:14.000 So just because he said, I'm sorry, I won't do it again.

00:25:16.000 No, no, no.

00:25:17.000 Just curious as to, are they so desperate to stay that they don't need any reassurance?

00:25:23.000 They just like, I don't care.

00:25:24.000 I'm going to stay.

00:25:25.000 Or are you coercing them into staying perhaps saying like, I will never.

00:25:29.000 What is coercing?

00:25:30.000 What is coercing?

00:25:31.000 Rehearsing, but coercing.

00:25:33.000 No, as in sort of saying, oh, you've caught me.

00:25:36.000 I'll never do it again.

00:25:37.000 You're the one I want.

00:25:38.000 I don't know what I was thinking.

00:25:39.000 That's coercing.

00:25:40.000 So it's kind of lying to them, to engage in them.

00:25:43.000 Maybe he means it in the moment.

00:25:44.000 Maybe he means it.

00:25:45.000 Probably.

00:25:46.000 That's what most guys.

00:25:47.000 But women don't really care when they get cheated on.

00:25:50.000 They don't.

00:25:51.000 And I say this because if you look at their, look at it.

00:25:54.000 They do.

00:25:55.000 And I'm telling you.

00:25:56.000 Stop, stop, stop.

00:25:57.000 They could say they care.

00:25:58.000 But when I look at actions, they typically stay.

00:26:00.000 But why do they stay?

00:26:01.000 That's the question.

00:26:02.000 Have you stayed before?

00:26:03.000 Have you stayed before?

00:26:04.000 Hell yeah.

00:26:05.000 Why do you stay rich?

00:26:07.000 But the reasons behind it, I mean, there's an evolutionary reason behind it.

00:26:20.000 There's a reason why women stay.

00:26:21.000 We can try to say biology doesn't matter, but it does.

00:26:24.000 And it's because in the old days, if a guy could take care of other women and was selected

00:26:28.000 by other women, that showed that he could take care of you too.

00:26:31.000 And so that's why cheating, it's different for men and for women.

00:26:33.000 Women tend to stay.

00:26:34.000 And in some cultures, they have multiple wives, which is technically.

00:26:40.000 Correct.

00:26:41.000 And I'm saying there's a reason for that.

00:26:43.000 And in some cultures, there's women who also have multiple husbands.

00:26:47.000 What culture is that?

00:26:49.000 There's matriarchal cultures.

00:26:51.000 It's just that we don't learn about them.

00:26:53.000 It doesn't mean that they don't exist.

00:26:54.000 There's one in Asia.

00:26:56.000 There's one.

00:26:57.000 What's it called?

00:26:58.000 I need to know about this.

00:26:59.000 I've literally put them on my website.

00:27:01.000 I didn't know about this.

00:27:04.000 But here's the thing.

00:27:05.000 They don't stand the test of time.

00:27:07.000 They don't become big civilizations.

00:27:09.000 But what's a big civilization?

00:27:11.000 8,000 years ago, 17 women were reproduced for every one man.

00:27:17.000 Only 40% of men have reproduced historically.

00:27:20.000 How many?

00:27:21.000 70%?

00:27:22.000 No.

00:27:23.000 40% of men have reproduced historically.

00:27:25.000 Oh, wow.

00:27:26.000 Yeah.

00:27:27.000 80% of women have 40% of men.

00:27:28.000 It's always been two women to one man.

00:27:29.000 Oh, wow.

00:27:30.000 That's good to know.

00:27:31.000 For some people.

00:27:32.000 That's the thing.

00:27:33.000 I feel like in society, just because one thing works for someone doesn't mean it works for

00:27:37.000 everyone.

00:27:38.000 I didn't say that.

00:27:39.000 And I think the different tribes and the different, you know.

00:27:41.000 We have to have a conversation about in generalities.

00:27:43.000 Like if we, this is why I say it depends.

00:27:45.000 It's subjective.

00:27:46.000 Like we have to talk about the rule before we can talk about the exceptions.

00:27:49.000 And the rule is women tend to stay more than they do.

00:27:51.000 But why do they stay?

00:27:52.000 They stay, especially now in this society.

00:27:54.000 Have you stayed before?

00:27:55.000 Have you stayed before?

00:27:56.000 How many boyfriends have you had?

00:27:58.000 I've never been cheated on.

00:27:59.000 How many boyfriends have you had?

00:28:00.000 I'll say only one.

00:28:02.000 Oh?

00:28:03.000 You would say only one?

00:28:04.000 Only one.

00:28:05.000 That means you've been seeing a lot of guys now.

00:28:06.000 But why are you single now?

00:28:07.000 I've been interested for like four people, but real relationship only one person.

00:28:12.000 Wait, so I have a question.

00:28:13.000 So you've done the situationship thing?

00:28:16.000 Yeah.

00:28:17.000 So what is a situationship?

00:28:18.000 You're a side chick.

00:28:19.000 Mmm.

00:28:20.000 Unless, if he has a mane, then yeah.

00:28:23.000 I'm saying when you're in a situationship, it's not.

00:28:26.000 I wouldn't say situationship, but like you're getting, I was getting to know these people,

00:28:29.000 but then it wasn't, you know.

00:28:30.000 But the whole point is like, you didn't require exclusivity.

00:28:34.000 Meaning, he was proud, the reason women stay is because they can't replace the guy.

00:28:38.000 But again, why is that because of financial hardship in society?

00:28:43.000 It's literally less beneficial for a woman to leave a relationship than it is for a man.

00:28:48.000 Say that again.

00:28:49.000 It's less beneficial for a woman to leave a relationship, but more women leave relationships.

00:28:55.000 Even like you say all the time, 70% of divorces are by women.

00:28:59.000 But again, why is it such a high number considering how much they lose in the relationship?

00:29:05.000 Does it not show that there's something missing there?

00:29:09.000 But I think it's because we've told women wrong.

00:29:12.000 Like we're told that it's about our happiness.

00:29:14.000 Life isn't about happiness.

00:29:15.000 It's about duty.

00:29:16.000 It's about community.

00:29:17.000 And so when women are unhappy, they leave relationships, even when there's children involved.

00:29:22.000 But it should be about happiness.

00:29:24.000 You should be happy with the person that you're with.

00:29:26.000 You should feel supported by them emotionally, physically.

00:29:30.000 I think that's unrealistic in a 50 year marriage.

00:29:33.000 Like people used to be married for 50 years.

00:29:35.000 Do you really think that they were happy for 50 years?

00:29:38.000 Did you know that in the 1950s?

00:29:39.000 They've definitely done a little thing on the side.

00:29:41.000 I do believe that.

00:29:42.000 I do believe that.

00:29:43.000 What?

00:29:44.000 I think simplicity.

00:29:45.000 Sorry.

00:29:46.000 Did you know that in the 1950s, you know, the main era of stay at home moms and happy families

00:29:50.000 and all of that, there was like a known thing of those women being extremely unhappy

00:29:57.000 because of the fact that they didn't have an out.

00:30:00.000 Like they kind of felt stuck.

00:30:01.000 That's like, that's kind of the propaganda that they put.

00:30:04.000 Most girls that I meet go, I want you to have enough money to have to work.

00:30:09.000 I never say things unless I research it, you know.

00:30:12.000 But here's the problem, is most of those studies, if you follow them back,

00:30:16.000 it's by these like feminist gender studies professors that have gender.

00:30:19.000 This universities, I only ever do, yeah.

00:30:21.000 No, I know that's the problem.

00:30:22.000 Feminists infiltrated universities in the 1970s and 80s,

00:30:25.000 so much so that they made it more subjective rather than objective.

00:30:28.000 And so the difference is now, it's like we have women running the universities

00:30:32.000 and they even talk about how they rewrite history.

00:30:35.000 But what about the facts that you get?

00:30:37.000 If you can't trust anything that we find online, where can we actually find data to back the things that we say?

00:30:44.000 And I think this is the difference between like the right and the left a lot of times.

00:30:49.000 Like I think you learn over time, like which sources tend to be more credible.

00:30:54.000 Of course.

00:30:55.000 But in my experience, like I see what's in front of my eyes.

00:30:57.000 Yeah.

00:30:58.000 Do you know, like sometimes they want to give you a study and say,

00:31:01.000 don't look at what's in front of your eyes.

00:31:03.000 And I just don't see men being these crazy abusers that are just making women miserable.

00:31:07.000 But that's your experience.

00:31:08.000 It depends on where you are.

00:31:09.000 If anything, I see it the other way around much more.

00:31:13.000 It depends on where you are.

00:31:15.000 It's completely different on my side.

00:31:16.000 And that's my experience.

00:31:17.000 And I feel like just because you haven't seen this doesn't make it not true.

00:31:23.000 Like it doesn't delete other people's experiences.

00:31:25.000 There's hundreds of millions of women on this earth.

00:31:28.000 And I guess if we're going to go off of abuse, then I want to see police reports.

00:31:33.000 And that's the issue.

00:31:34.000 The majority of abuse claims are not filed in criminal court.

00:31:38.000 This is actually true.

00:31:39.000 This is true.

00:31:40.000 But why?

00:31:41.000 I love that.

00:31:42.000 I'm the first time I've experienced in this shit.

00:31:44.000 I'll tell you why it is.

00:31:45.000 It's because in criminal court, it requires evidence.

00:31:49.000 And in family court, it's on a balance of probabilities.

00:31:52.000 Meaning if it's 51% more likely that he did it, then they will take the woman's side.

00:31:56.000 So if a woman cries on the stand, she only has to convince one judge.

00:32:01.000 Where in criminal court, it's a jury of your peers, which is a lot harder to sway.

00:32:06.000 And that, in my opinion, is why women do not file police reports.

00:32:10.000 But how do you...

00:32:11.000 Sorry.

00:32:12.000 I think they don't file it because they're scared.

00:32:14.000 In all honesty.

00:32:15.000 How do you prove women have abuse?

00:32:17.000 There's nothing to prove though.

00:32:18.000 That's why they don't file it.

00:32:19.000 No, it's not guys.

00:32:20.000 I'm from Brazil and he has one of the highest rates of violence against women.

00:32:23.000 So it depends on where you are.

00:32:24.000 I've done like charity work and working with women.

00:32:27.000 So depending, guys, look, it depends socioeconomically.

00:32:31.000 These things, they are very different.

00:32:34.000 Maybe in Brazil, but hey.

00:32:36.000 Yeah, no, that's why.

00:32:37.000 What we're talking about is it depends on where you are.

00:32:39.000 Even on an international level, the issue is that they've switched to the Duluth model.

00:32:43.000 Now, what is the Duluth model?

00:32:44.000 This was founded by three feminists.

00:32:46.000 And one of them even admitted that it was not correct.

00:32:49.000 Like that the evidence that she was seeing working with women that had been abused

00:32:53.000 did not line up with the model that they made.

00:32:55.000 And basically the model that they made put men because they have more power.

00:32:58.000 It's like a very feminist worldview.

00:32:59.000 The men have more power.

00:33:00.000 They are automatically the oppressor.

00:33:02.000 Why do they call the police and they automatically arrest the man?

00:33:05.000 Even if the woman's hitting the man, it's because it's all based off of the Duluth model.

00:33:07.000 I heard that.

00:33:08.000 This happened to me.

00:33:09.000 And this, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:10.000 That's happened three times.

00:33:11.000 Three times, man.

00:33:12.000 CID, man.

00:33:13.000 And you see, it's the same.

00:33:14.000 I just noticed patterns and you see the same pattern.

00:33:17.000 Yeah.

00:33:18.000 You're the number one.

00:33:19.000 Yeah.

00:33:20.000 You're the number one swiped right man on Tinder, right?

00:33:21.000 Exactly.

00:33:22.000 I'm like, prime.

00:33:23.000 They always do it to men.

00:33:24.000 They always do it to men with money, power, and status.

00:33:25.000 They would never need.

00:33:26.000 You can check the reports if you want.

00:33:27.000 They would never need to.

00:33:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:29.000 I didn't do anything wrong.

00:33:30.000 And that's the problem with the abuse claims is that the system is so skewed one way

00:33:36.000 because it's all based on a feminist model that men have more power.

00:33:39.000 But they do have more power.

00:33:41.000 What do you mean?

00:33:42.000 Physical.

00:33:43.000 Physical power.

00:33:44.000 Right about a good 60, 70 years ago.

00:33:46.000 How would you say that they don't have power?

00:33:48.000 Especially if...

00:33:49.000 But women have power.

00:33:50.000 I know women that are stronger than me.

00:33:52.000 Of course.

00:33:53.000 I'm not saying that there isn't.

00:33:54.000 Yeah, there's definitely women that could take men, you know, even football, sports,

00:33:57.000 what not.

00:33:58.000 But it doesn't change the fact that...

00:34:01.000 I've seen angry tics.

00:34:02.000 That's it.

00:34:03.000 She could take me out.

00:34:04.000 And you do.

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