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In this episode, we discuss feminism and the impact it has had on women throughout history. We discuss the role of women in society, the role women have played in society in the past and how feminism has impacted women in the present. We also discuss the impact feminism has had and how it has impacted the way women are treated and treated in the modern world.
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do you think feminism has made us better women overall do you know what following here in your
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stats and even seeing that muzzle um i still have my views on feminism but i would say that it has
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played a huge part in um assisting women you know with getting a better quality of life getting more
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equality because it obviously at some point there was a lot of oppression and i don't think it was
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treatment i don't think it was oppression ever yeah um i believe so and um i believe that
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you know to a certain point that it's assisted with like just creating a better space letting
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getting our voices heard because like it's all well saying that we don't agree with a lot of
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the things that the feminists say today the reason why i don't agree with them is because they're
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taking it too far and like the definition is being lost of independence and what it is to be an
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independent woman and person but as far as feminism and what the people were doing to make the change
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and the changes i think that to a certain extent they are doing a good thing because it is important
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that we have a diverse you know diverse people and voices on the tables like you've got a diverse panel
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you know so it's important that we can get a male's opinion you know so all voices all cultures are very
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important in order for us to breed greater innovation for us and breed better humans even
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our children and a better future you know for us all to have that growth i think the premise that men
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and women can be equal i think is wrong i think men are yeah but there's equal to what extent you know
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so obviously if you're talking in the sense of relationships then obviously we can go to traditions
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and cultures there's a few different factors that we can find out if we want to look at it in that way
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but so i do agree that there is roles within the home i'm very traditional in that way i agree with
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a lot of the things that um not i don't agree with all of the things before no muzzle i kind of liked the
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muzzle you see i'm very um i like i do agree you know that um again i'm all for diversity i think voices
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do need to be heard but there's respect as well and um a muzzle is very disrespectful it was only used
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it was only used for extreme women you've seen those women that are berating their husbands in
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public that that make their husband's lives a living hell it wasn't yeah but then that's down
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to how that woman was brought up and then that's down for the man as an individual to say that's
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not the kind of woman i want to be with well you were forced to be married back then so to me i was
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like i'm not saying we should bring back the i'm kind of joking but but my my thing is i kind of
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understand it because they were forced in this marriage he's married to a wicked wife it's like
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women don't talk about so like social abuse or verbal abuse women can be very verbally abusive
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and women are equally abusive as men you get and with men that go through domestic violence and
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because of women as well so it can work both ways and again maybe it doesn't get discussed as much
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because obviously in today's culture today's culture everything has been changed so feminism
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has actually brought and changed laws whereas imagine if women that were a lot of women were
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getting domestically abused and nothing was getting done about it because their voices weren't being
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heard there wasn't laws for them but they even but i'm saying even changes that have been made but even
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even back then they would argue that the the laws still favored women like for example they they estimate
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that 61 of murders were done by women and most of them didn't even get because back then they didn't
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have abortion so women would literally kill a quarter of their kids they just kill them we're also
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missing there's like a interesting piece of the puzzle that we're missing in this is that like okay
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let's go back to the 1700s and yes like there's some different sort of expectations so women are doing
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all this stuff around the house etc but it's like what was the what was life like for an average man in
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the 1700s oh horrible right it's like you're working on a something like you're breathing poison at work
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all the time you're dealing with poison you're dying like look at the life expenses way shorter
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for men it was like farmhand um coal miner or a factory worker but i don't remember what year the
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factories came in and like there's a pretty good chance you're gonna get like a wound that kills
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you or you're gonna lose a limb at whatever job you're doing and you're gonna die 10 to 15 years
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earlier than the woman in your life so it's like oh we have all these rules it's like well
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man men had a really hard existence back then right and it's like can you give him a little
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credit he's gonna die in war probably defending you well my my thing is i just think we can't be equal
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because every time like how can you have equality when you'll always have to appeal to men to enforce
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our rights you always have to ask men to give us the rights no we can't i think this is why this is
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about this article was this this is presenting a very overly idyllic version of the past and a very very
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a like antagonistic version of the present because there would have been many women back
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then who would have been bad wives who would have been very cruel to their husbands and there are
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many women hey i showed you the muzzle but who i showed you the muzzle this is presenting an overly
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idealistic version because i agree with you that i completely agree that feminism is bad but to say
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that it was all brilliant back then because for example as the gentleman rightly said you know a lot of
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men led very difficult lives it's not like i didn't say i didn't say it was i didn't say it was all
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good i would argue the wives were better then i mean i think i think i don't know on the basis of
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purity alone yeah why is that on the basis what percent of women have a cookbook today what percent of
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women really you you know the average chick i've had over 600 i've probably had a thousand p women in
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here in the last year the majority don't know how to cook are they from this society i i have
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interviewed women all over the world like yeah everywhere i'm telling you i've i i can't even
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count how many countries we've had and i'm not saying there are women that are more traditional
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that do cook that do all those traditional things but do i think more than half of women have those
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skills today no well you don't have to go back far just think of your grandparents marriage like most of
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us can remember our you know our grandparents being together and what that marriage looked like and it's
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probably different than how our parents were and it's different from our peers my mom showed me
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from young yeah i was grown up she looked after my dad she looked after the family my mom did not
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know what working was she was just a housewife she would cook my dad would come home from work and we
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would have a family dinner that's how it was 19 years my mom was putting up with it and i think it's
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just about how you're raised it's not about like i don't know it just really depends on how you're
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raised and i guess the the people you're around literally being a housewife is a good thing as
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well as well we shouldn't knock house but i think my point is if you look at every statistical data
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point the wives are worse today than they were just because you just because you don't like the way it
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sounds like the the facts women were more the women were more pure it sounds like a way to make
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modern women look bad i mean modern like we do look bad women are not feminists they're worse exactly
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they might not identify as a feminist but most women live their lives according to feminism
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because traditional women put family first but you don't have to be traditional women are typically
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married before the age of 25 because that's the number one thing they prioritize most women go to college
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and college teaches you to be a feminist i'm not saying it's women's fault completely right because
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we're all told to go to college we're told to do this stuff but it's like when you prioritize
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having um a career in your most fertile years that's the life of a parent's having a career isn't
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feminist for example margaret thatcher no it's not margaret thatcher was not a feminist like you don't
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isn't the options don't have to be traditional woman versus feminist this is a misconception i'm saying
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i'm saying i'm saying they might not identify as a feminist but the way they live their life
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is more feminist because what do you mean by because when i say when i say when i say traditional
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traditional is putting the family first and family is your first priority so women that are truly true
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i'm not even saying i'm i'm not a traditional woman otherwise i'd be married by now so i'm not even i'm not
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even saying it's me but i'm saying the women i know that are the most feminine the most traditional they are
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married before 25 they don't really care about college they don't really care about a career
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and that's their number one priority so a lot of times people get like like like frustrated because
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they're like women think they're traditional and they're not but why the options traditional versus
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feminist you know like because also this is the misconception being an independent woman doesn't
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mean being a feminist like a lot of career women because women have taken it to the next level and
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not even understanding what it means to be independent so now a lot of these women are
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saying oh i'm independent i don't need a man yeah they're man hating because feminism is really about
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being anti-men like you can be pro-men and also be a career focused woman you know what i mean like
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there's been a lot of married women for example helen girly brown was happily married and she was one of
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the founders of sexual liberation a lot of feminists don't like her okay so what her is trying to say is
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it's either you're going to dedicate your life to your family or you're going to dedicate yourself
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to a big career no one say you can't no one's gonna no you can't so basically you can be i i my
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my business academy i actually train women to do business like women entrepreneurs and um female
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leaders yeah the reason why i do it is not for the feminists so to feature them to be independent
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but what i'm trying to do is to help them build their self-esteem yes and give them skills that
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they can transfer to their children because the way i see it the women spend the majority of the time
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at home with their children with the children so in order to build leaders and entrepreneurs out of our
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children we need to educate our women in that way so that's the purpose of my business so when i'm
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teaching these women i'm not teaching them to say right you lot are going to go into your business
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you're going to be leaders and you don't need no men you're going to lead the world i'm not teaching
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them that i'm teaching them to grow and be more confident with themselves and become better
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influencers for their children because as women we are a big influence in society and to our children
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you know but the the misconception that a lot of these modern day women have is when they're
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chatting foolishness like we don't need men in the home we don't need a man what are you teaching your
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daughter yes what are you teaching your son so do you want your daughter to go and get breathed up
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by go and sleep with any man and have five three different baby dads no you want to teach your
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daughter the right way my daughter's father's died a couple days ago i'm not looking to just go and get
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into a relationship just to have a man around me i'd rather make sure that i do it the right way so i
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can teach my daughter the right way you know and there is a problem with just sleeping around i'm not
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going to run up my mileage dating how many men just to go and pleasure myself what's that going
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to look like to my child what kind of man would i be introducing into my life yeah you can't you know
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no like so it's not a case of saying you know there's any to me the traditional way works that's
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why our grandparents were together for so long you know and this modern day way of living that's why
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you've got all these single mothers growing up sons on their own and then their sons are becoming
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feminine and they can't even deal with your daughter they can't even deal with your daughter properly
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or be a man to your grandchild that's why they're breeding these girls and leaving them saying got
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no man in the home because of these modern day women uneducated your business sounds amazing but
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don't you think we can find a balance between the traditional and the modern because there's no need to go
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back to the 1800s but the point i'm not i'm not it sounds amazing by the way you might be able to
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prioritize yeah so what pearly's trying to say to you is you've got a choice so i've got a friend here
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i know one girl i've got to know a couple girls like that and they're actually going up into their
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40s they're deep in their 30s and they haven't got no children and i actually feel a bit like sorry for
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them they've never really had a serious relationship and my my thing is it's probably because you're not
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really focused you're not presenting yourself in that way how can you how can you get a husband if
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you're not letting off that energy if you're in a rave every day if all your friends are single
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how are you going to get a husband if you're sleeping with everyone what man wants you like seriously
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what's wrong with being a hoe there's a lot of wrong being a hoe you need to respect yourself
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to be honest so first and foremost before getting a man to respect you because a man's going to feel
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that energy yeah so if you don't respect yourself no one else is going so there's a lot to do with
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that and then what are you going to be feeding to your daughter to your son or to your nieces or
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nephews and this is the problem with modern day women they're not thinking they're not very conscious
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about what this they're just following trends it's not it's not all but but the but the the point is
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it's still most most women are not traditional it's like we can't we can't have a conversation about
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we cannot we cannot have a conversation about anything unless we can have generalizations
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and we know that over 50 percent of women i would say are not marriageable if you ask the men they're
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going to say the same exact thing it's not up to us to decide who's marriageable it's up to the men
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my son yeah and he's 22 and he's so he made a really good point and going back and he was saying to me
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about um girls his age like he's like that age group he's like mum you can't take them seriously
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because he's saying the roles are reversed he said and imagine this is a guy that's 22 like and i think
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he was about 19 at the time when he told me this and what his point is is that these girls they're
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actually the ones running down sex and man they're the ones you know the tables have turned now so
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they're like the boys and again why is that because of these the education that they're getting from
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these girls from the last generation think about how bad this is fall four percent of women are
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virgins on their wedding days that is a traditional woman she waits till she's married four percent we
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went from 85 percent to four percent i can't think of many modern men who are demanding virginity and
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they're not demanding they're not but they're not demanding it because they can't how can they
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demand it when four percent men adapt to the market there's studies we don't need to wait wait stop
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stop there's there's studies there's studies that have said that that sex is a need for men
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yeah and so if sex is a need they're going to adapt to the market but most men would prefer a virgin for
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a wife there's four billion men in the world you know this statistically they probably would prefer it
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but i think because of today's culture i think it's highly unlikely i don't think people are
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in the past i think people lied no they didn't because the consequences of sex were real before
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the birth control pill like women were like there was always the men that women wanted and then there's
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the men that women needed long term and there's a difference the cat versus dad strategy right the
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cat is like the chat and tyrone we call them today in evolutionary psychology it's called the cat or
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evolutionary biology and then there's the dad which is the long-term partner right and the problem was
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the women couldn't be with those chads and tyrones because the risk of pregnancy would just devastate
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their life not to say the shame aspect wasn't there because it was like the social consequences
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of you know a man probably wouldn't marry you if 85 percent of women are virgins he's not picking from
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the 15 that are not he's like one body right and that's and that's but but but the risk of pregnancy
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is like it was so severe and so serious and like if you first of all abortions were illegal so like that
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wasn't an option and then the reality was that like women had men they probably were naturally more
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drawn towards the more masculine etc etc but it's like well that's a dangerous option because he
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might not commit so he would pick a guy that would commit there was value in the market to commitment
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that value is gone today and the numbers on it are pretty shocking if you've got one
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match on tinder as a man you're in the top 50th percentile 50 percent of men never get a match on
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tinder that's real data if you've got 14 matches on tinder as a man you're 99th percentile
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yeah so so should we all go back to the 1800s well in some ways that probably wouldn't be a bad thing
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and in some ways there probably be some so you're laughing but it's like not necessarily bad right
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like well this is romanticizing hey hey i would i would go back to like 400 dc and i would go to like
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stoicism i'd go to like clato and aurelius and to me like that's a beautiful thing and you can't
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disagree with that philosophy right that just because it's old doesn't mean it's antiquated