JustPearlyThings - July 02, 2023


Trad Woman EFFORTLESSLY Debunks Pro Choice Delusion


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

211.69534

Word Count

1,903

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

2

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the controversial topic of abortion. Is it something that should be considered or not? What is the difference between a human embryo and a human being? Is it murder to abort the embryo at a certain point in time? What are the benefits and disadvantages of abortion? Is there a point at which abortion should become an option?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 there's a unique dna code that's created that's different from the mom and the dads from conception
00:00:05.520 yeah that and like in that code they can say their eye color their hair color their height
00:00:09.520 that's fine but that's all just cells it's not an actual human being yet to the same extent i'm
00:00:13.520 i'm also cells i mean we're all cells we're all cells but we're also we're now human beings right
00:00:18.480 you understand well i think we're adults i think that's the distinction we're making because a
00:00:23.840 plant is also alive but a plant is still a plant a baby is alive but it hasn't been born yet and it
00:00:29.680 also has an experience quite simple it hasn't been born it's not left the mother it's still
00:00:36.000 inside of the mother's body it's a part of the mother it's it's breathing and eating and getting
00:00:41.920 everything from the mother if the mother dies the child will die right yeah so well to a certain
00:00:47.600 extent if the child's already a certain amount of weeks i have heard in some cases um historically
00:00:53.520 that the child can be born certainly if the mother has died like if it's really far along but what i'm
00:00:58.800 saying is you know in in terms of aborting at three to four months which is something that i
00:01:02.800 agree with you know um the the child the baby or the embryo whatever it is correct terminology is
00:01:09.360 fully reliant on that and it's still part of the mother's body right so let's explore that a little
00:01:13.840 bit more so we've got it hasn't had experiences and it still relies on its mother and those are the two
00:01:18.480 things that we know that's not what i'm saying because we some people rely on their mother till death
00:01:23.120 and you know some you know some people don't have experiences no no because she's trying to um
00:01:28.080 summarize my what i'm trying to say and it's incorrectly how you've summarized it yeah what
00:01:32.240 i'm trying to say is to you that we have to remember that the the the embryo is not a baby
00:01:38.400 and it's not a human until a certain point that's not true okay go on king tell us all right because you
00:01:46.160 made a point you said a plant is a plant and uh uh whatever you said about the humans that the
00:01:52.400 embryo is not a human being yet but to come against that point a seed is where the plants come from
00:01:59.040 right you can't get a human being from a seed and you can't get a plant from an embryo i can make a
00:02:04.880 better comparison if you would like go for it but can i just say can't do that to come against your own
00:02:09.600 point because you said um i believe you said um it's not murder because the woman is ejecting the
00:02:16.880 baby that's i can i can use an analogy the medicine is inducing yes but i can use this analogy if if
00:02:23.920 someone was hanging over this ledge there and they were about to fall to their death and i ejected them
00:02:31.760 i didn't kill them i didn't shoot them in the head i didn't do anything but i just
00:02:35.040 pushed the the way that would be killing them why it's the same thing i'm ejecting them no
00:02:39.680 it's not your it's not yours it's not coming from you and this is what we're trying to use
00:02:43.360 all of these examples then i can eject yeah if we're going to use this whole my body my choice
00:02:48.080 yeah you can't keep using these if i'm a human being and i'm going to push another human being
00:02:52.320 it's not the same no but when we don't use my it's not the same but you're okay with her using a
00:02:57.280 comparison you're using a comparison to plants but we can't use this comparison
00:03:01.200 because we're talking about being alive we're talking about being alive and a plant is alive
00:03:06.080 yeah you know a plant is still alive you know we're cells we're all cells like
00:03:09.840 so is the person being ejected off the building yeah yeah but that's a more fair comparison than a plant
00:03:15.760 no it's not it's not you you what you have to understand is when i said about the plant i said
00:03:20.400 that in regards to being a living organism yeah a cell an embryo human being a cat a plant we're all living
00:03:28.960 yeah the experiences that we have is is different because we're different types of living organisms
00:03:34.480 yeah when you said about um uh at conception this is the point where it becomes a human being i disagree
00:03:42.240 with you personally because at that point it's just cells merging creating what would be a human being
00:03:48.800 now now sorry king i'm not too sure when it actually because i don't know about these things too
00:03:53.920 deep i just have my opinions however whenever that uh cell that embryo starts to form into a
00:04:00.480 baby with a heartbeat and starts to get organs like lungs and so forth and and limbs and so forth
00:04:06.800 i think there should be a certain point where the abortion doesn't become an option i think that women
00:04:12.400 need to and men or whoever's involved mainly the women because as i said it's her body her choice
00:04:17.440 need to make these decisions fast you know you you have these decisions firstly before you even sleep with
00:04:22.880 the person but if it's still too late you need to make these decisions quickly i'm gonna let king go
00:04:28.080 ahead yeah but is a cell because you're conflating the your point is a cell a living organism a cell is
00:04:34.320 but it's not a human being is it a living organ i said it already so how can you in the same breath say
00:04:38.560 something is a living organism but it can't be murdered because it's not a human being i didn't
00:04:43.600 say that it can't be murdered you're putting my words in my mouth what i said what i said is uh a cell
00:04:48.800 from the young lady who's who said that um from conscious con from conception conception thank
00:04:54.720 you from conception it's a human being my whole uh my whole my whole my whole spill has been because
00:05:00.000 of that statement yeah but that's semantics live human being living in a garden it's not semantics
00:05:04.640 because when we're talking about abortion and killing human beings let them let them go when you're
00:05:08.000 talking about killing a cell a cell because these are names of things so a cell is a living organism
00:05:13.680 right correct a human being is what also a living organism exactly so but they're not the same it
00:05:19.200 doesn't matter why because we're talking about life we're not talking about whether it's a human life
00:05:24.000 or a plant like we're talking about life it's about my life and then because you're conflating it so if
00:05:29.120 we're talking about life and then you're saying a cell is a living organism if you cannot compare a
00:05:33.840 cell to a human being then that means you should be able to get a plant out of a cell right i'm gonna
00:05:38.240 come i'm gonna respond to you so a life is not the same as a living organism
00:05:43.440 i don't know if i'm saying this right correctly it's not that they're not they're not the same
00:05:48.000 things yes but you're conflating things that actually don't matter whether you call it a
00:05:52.000 life or a living organism or a human being doesn't matter all these are just words that we used to
00:05:56.080 express ourselves further to develop further points to be able to communicate better but the basis the
00:06:02.000 basic ideology is that you can only get a human being from the cells that are grown in a woman's womb
00:06:07.920 the reasons get a plant i get you and the reason why i do hold on to words is because it's words
00:06:13.280 which impact people's opinion so much when you're talking about killing human beings it sounds savage
00:06:19.760 and it sounds wrong yeah but yeah but but but that's not but that's not what's happening with
00:06:24.160 abortion at three three months in my opinion how'd you know because is it a human being and that's my
00:06:28.480 argument when when it becomes a human being that's when we're talking about that's a good question is like
00:06:32.800 when is a human sorry i just saw that well i'd love to give a medical so i'm a medical doctor and
00:06:37.280 we study this in medical school you know when does a human being begin to exist when does an organism
00:06:41.680 begin to exist we learn it begins at conception there was no real debate about that it's only when
00:06:46.400 you get into the politics of abortion that people are like oh we don't know we don't know when it's a
00:06:50.160 life we don't know when it's a human being it from a medical perspective in medical school in my
00:06:54.640 medical practice is very obvious when i see a lady who's pregnant if she wants the baby she can be only
00:07:00.160 five weeks along you go on the nhs website it says you and your baby at five weeks this is what it's
00:07:05.200 like and so i think all of us readily accept in every other context that this is a living human
00:07:10.880 being i don't think anyone denies that except when it comes to abortion because it's you know pro-choices
00:07:16.400 need to say it's not that because you know they that the reality is is is difficult to reconcile
00:07:21.280 with the pro-choice view so there was even a survey of this a few years ago of biologists this is a
00:07:25.680 biological question right biology literally means the study of life they studied 6 000 biologists
00:07:32.320 around the world and they said are you pro-life or pro-choice and half of them pro-life half of them
00:07:35.760 pro-choice probably more pro-choice and they said when does an individual member of the human species
00:07:40.560 begin to exist like what else could human being mean an individual human organism of the species homo
00:07:46.560 sapiens and 95 of them said at fertilization we know that this is a human because it's homo sapiens
00:07:54.640 it's not any other species it's not a calf or a dog or a elephant we know that it's living because
00:07:59.680 it can die and we all know what it means when a baby dies in the womb it's a living it's human what
00:08:05.200 more does it need to be a human being like it's got everything that i've got i hear you it's not
00:08:10.320 fully developed and i think that that when we're looking at some of the reasons why women have abortions
00:08:16.800 and some of the conditions human beings that have been born are living in for me personally it makes me
00:08:24.400 understand why people why women are having abortions and it makes me think that makes me be pro-choice
00:08:30.560 yeah because uh if what you're saying is true i'm not disputing that scientifically maybe so however in
00:08:38.400 my opinion i still do believe that women should have a choice to abort a child whether it's at home
00:08:45.360 as long as it's safe or you know in a medical facility up to a certain