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- July 02, 2023
Trad Woman EFFORTLESSLY Debunks Pro Choice Delusion
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8 minutes
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Word Count
1,903
Sentence Count
1
Misogynist Sentences
2
Hate Speech Sentences
6
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there's a unique dna code that's created that's different from the mom and the dads from conception
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yeah that and like in that code they can say their eye color their hair color their height
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that's fine but that's all just cells it's not an actual human being yet to the same extent i'm
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i'm also cells i mean we're all cells we're all cells but we're also we're now human beings right
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you understand well i think we're adults i think that's the distinction we're making because a
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plant is also alive but a plant is still a plant a baby is alive but it hasn't been born yet and it
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also has an experience quite simple it hasn't been born it's not left the mother it's still
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inside of the mother's body it's a part of the mother it's it's breathing and eating and getting
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everything from the mother if the mother dies the child will die right yeah so well to a certain
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extent if the child's already a certain amount of weeks i have heard in some cases um historically
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that the child can be born certainly if the mother has died like if it's really far along but what i'm
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saying is you know in in terms of aborting at three to four months which is something that i
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agree with you know um the the child the baby or the embryo whatever it is correct terminology is
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fully reliant on that and it's still part of the mother's body right so let's explore that a little
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bit more so we've got it hasn't had experiences and it still relies on its mother and those are the two
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things that we know that's not what i'm saying because we some people rely on their mother till death
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and you know some you know some people don't have experiences no no because she's trying to um
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summarize my what i'm trying to say and it's incorrectly how you've summarized it yeah what
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i'm trying to say is to you that we have to remember that the the the embryo is not a baby
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and it's not a human until a certain point that's not true okay go on king tell us all right because you
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made a point you said a plant is a plant and uh uh whatever you said about the humans that the
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embryo is not a human being yet but to come against that point a seed is where the plants come from
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right you can't get a human being from a seed and you can't get a plant from an embryo i can make a
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better comparison if you would like go for it but can i just say can't do that to come against your own
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point because you said um i believe you said um it's not murder because the woman is ejecting the
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baby that's i can i can use an analogy the medicine is inducing yes but i can use this analogy if if
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someone was hanging over this ledge there and they were about to fall to their death and i ejected them
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i didn't kill them i didn't shoot them in the head i didn't do anything but i just
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pushed the the way that would be killing them why it's the same thing i'm ejecting them no
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it's not your it's not yours it's not coming from you and this is what we're trying to use
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all of these examples then i can eject yeah if we're going to use this whole my body my choice
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yeah you can't keep using these if i'm a human being and i'm going to push another human being
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it's not the same no but when we don't use my it's not the same but you're okay with her using a
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comparison you're using a comparison to plants but we can't use this comparison
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because we're talking about being alive we're talking about being alive and a plant is alive
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yeah you know a plant is still alive you know we're cells we're all cells like
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so is the person being ejected off the building yeah yeah but that's a more fair comparison than a plant
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no it's not it's not you you what you have to understand is when i said about the plant i said
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that in regards to being a living organism yeah a cell an embryo human being a cat a plant we're all living
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yeah the experiences that we have is is different because we're different types of living organisms
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yeah when you said about um uh at conception this is the point where it becomes a human being i disagree
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with you personally because at that point it's just cells merging creating what would be a human being
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now now sorry king i'm not too sure when it actually because i don't know about these things too
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deep i just have my opinions however whenever that uh cell that embryo starts to form into a
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baby with a heartbeat and starts to get organs like lungs and so forth and and limbs and so forth
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i think there should be a certain point where the abortion doesn't become an option i think that women
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need to and men or whoever's involved mainly the women because as i said it's her body her choice
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need to make these decisions fast you know you you have these decisions firstly before you even sleep with
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the person but if it's still too late you need to make these decisions quickly i'm gonna let king go
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ahead yeah but is a cell because you're conflating the your point is a cell a living organism a cell is
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but it's not a human being is it a living organ i said it already so how can you in the same breath say
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something is a living organism but it can't be murdered because it's not a human being i didn't
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say that it can't be murdered you're putting my words in my mouth what i said what i said is uh a cell
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from the young lady who's who said that um from conscious con from conception conception thank
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you from conception it's a human being my whole uh my whole my whole my whole spill has been because
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of that statement yeah but that's semantics live human being living in a garden it's not semantics
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because when we're talking about abortion and killing human beings let them let them go when you're
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talking about killing a cell a cell because these are names of things so a cell is a living organism
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right correct a human being is what also a living organism exactly so but they're not the same it
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doesn't matter why because we're talking about life we're not talking about whether it's a human life
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or a plant like we're talking about life it's about my life and then because you're conflating it so if
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we're talking about life and then you're saying a cell is a living organism if you cannot compare a
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cell to a human being then that means you should be able to get a plant out of a cell right i'm gonna
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come i'm gonna respond to you so a life is not the same as a living organism
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i don't know if i'm saying this right correctly it's not that they're not they're not the same
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things yes but you're conflating things that actually don't matter whether you call it a
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life or a living organism or a human being doesn't matter all these are just words that we used to
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express ourselves further to develop further points to be able to communicate better but the basis the
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basic ideology is that you can only get a human being from the cells that are grown in a woman's womb
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the reasons get a plant i get you and the reason why i do hold on to words is because it's words
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which impact people's opinion so much when you're talking about killing human beings it sounds savage
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and it sounds wrong yeah but yeah but but but that's not but that's not what's happening with
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abortion at three three months in my opinion how'd you know because is it a human being and that's my
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argument when when it becomes a human being that's when we're talking about that's a good question is like
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when is a human sorry i just saw that well i'd love to give a medical so i'm a medical doctor and
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we study this in medical school you know when does a human being begin to exist when does an organism
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begin to exist we learn it begins at conception there was no real debate about that it's only when
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you get into the politics of abortion that people are like oh we don't know we don't know when it's a
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life we don't know when it's a human being it from a medical perspective in medical school in my
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medical practice is very obvious when i see a lady who's pregnant if she wants the baby she can be only
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five weeks along you go on the nhs website it says you and your baby at five weeks this is what it's
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like and so i think all of us readily accept in every other context that this is a living human
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being i don't think anyone denies that except when it comes to abortion because it's you know pro-choices
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need to say it's not that because you know they that the reality is is is difficult to reconcile
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with the pro-choice view so there was even a survey of this a few years ago of biologists this is a
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biological question right biology literally means the study of life they studied 6 000 biologists
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around the world and they said are you pro-life or pro-choice and half of them pro-life half of them
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pro-choice probably more pro-choice and they said when does an individual member of the human species
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begin to exist like what else could human being mean an individual human organism of the species homo
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sapiens and 95 of them said at fertilization we know that this is a human because it's homo sapiens
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it's not any other species it's not a calf or a dog or a elephant we know that it's living because
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it can die and we all know what it means when a baby dies in the womb it's a living it's human what
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more does it need to be a human being like it's got everything that i've got i hear you it's not
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fully developed and i think that that when we're looking at some of the reasons why women have abortions
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and some of the conditions human beings that have been born are living in for me personally it makes me
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understand why people why women are having abortions and it makes me think that makes me be pro-choice
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yeah because uh if what you're saying is true i'm not disputing that scientifically maybe so however in
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my opinion i still do believe that women should have a choice to abort a child whether it's at home
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as long as it's safe or you know in a medical facility up to a certain
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