JustPearlyThings - March 31, 2023


Traditional VS Modern Women


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12 minutes

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2,453

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244

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19

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In this episode I speak to a very special guest. She is a very well known and respected woman in the traditional world. She has been a long time member of the Traditional Women's movement and has been involved in the women's movement for a very long time. We talk about her views on modern women and how they need to go back to being traditional.

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00:00:00.000 I feel like over a certain age, modern women cannot have traditional outcomes anymore. 1.00
00:00:05.240 I had the same conversation today with him indoors.
00:00:08.640 And it was just like they get to this age after being so modern and they hit like the 35s and
00:00:19.100 they think, you know what, it's not working for me. I want to be traditional. But then
00:00:22.240 the men that are out there that want traditional, they don't want them because the women are coming 1.00
00:00:29.300 with these modern values, trying to be traditional. And you know what? You either got it or you
00:00:34.240 ain't. And you can't mix the two. You cannot mix the two. And women are out there. They're 1.00
00:00:38.480 too busy trying to be modern, but traditional. But no, they're not even trying to be like
00:00:43.380 a normal woman with traditional values. They want to be modern and traditional. And they're 1.00
00:00:49.260 going to clash. They're going to clash because the two can't work together. No matter what
00:00:52.700 they say, it can't work. I'm telling you, it cannot work. You cannot be modern.
00:00:58.720 Modern and traditional at the same time. Modern is all about, look it up in the dictionary.
00:01:04.920 Modern is all about me, me, me, me, me. Traditional is about us, the village, raising
00:01:11.640 everybody together. So you can't turn around and say, oh, I'm going to be modern. It's all
00:01:15.920 about me. And I'm going to do traditional because it does not work. It's impossible.
00:01:20.140 You're fooling yourself if you think you could be modern with traditional values. If I turned
00:01:25.120 around and I said, oh, I'm a traditionalist and I'm going to be modern, I'm going to go
00:01:29.060 out there, I'm going to get my nails done, I'm going to wear a miniskirt, I'm going to
00:01:32.420 get my hair done, I'm going to get makeup on my... They're thinking, you're kidding yourself.
00:01:36.280 Look at her, old woman. Do you know what I mean? Or mutton dressed as lamb. They're not 1.00
00:01:40.600 going to accept it from a traditional old person like me trying to be modern. So why do they
00:01:45.180 think it's going to work the other way around? It don't.
00:01:46.940 Yeah. How, how do you feel like we can return? Do you, do you think there is any returning
00:01:52.080 to traditionalism for modern women? Like, is there any way they can do it? 1.00
00:01:56.080 No, forget about modern women. I want to start with my grandchildren's age and the children 1.00
00:01:59.820 because there's no hope for them. The only thing I can do is all the modern women, you 1.00
00:02:03.420 try and sort yourself out for your children and raise the next generation because these 1.00
00:02:08.060 people now, they're lost. They're lost. They're fighting against themselves. They're fighting
00:02:13.680 to, they're fighting to hold on to something that is not good for them. That is, it's proven
00:02:20.180 that it's not good for you. So all this modern-ness that they want, it's not working. There's
00:02:27.540 nothing wrong with being traditional. And the thing is, it only hits them when they get
00:02:31.300 to a certain age and they think, you know what? Shit, I've got this. I want this. I want
00:02:34.780 this. And where's the man?
00:02:37.100 Oh, can I say something?
00:02:37.780 Do you, do you think most men are traditional?
00:02:39.540 Yeah. I think deep down they are. Deep down in the backbones of the men, they are. But
00:02:47.700 it's finding a woman that would work with them. And the men are too busy trying to bend 0.57
00:02:52.200 to this modern woman rather than dash them and leave them. 1.00
00:02:56.040 Do you think from all cultures or specific cultures?
00:02:58.040 All cultures, all cultures. Before you can say it's the, you can say like, it's the people
00:03:02.800 in, it's spreading. It's like the plague. It's like a modern plague. Even places where
00:03:07.980 you think it's not going to happen, all of a sudden, they've got people on Instagram and
00:03:13.320 they live in a village where, they live in a village back wherever it is and you can see
00:03:17.580 them and then, and they're doing the dances and everybody wants to, no, no, no, no, no.
00:03:21.600 It's leaking into society. And if we don't stop it now, it's going to, you're going to
00:03:25.840 end up with, it's going to end up with a mess really because sooner or later, they're going
00:03:30.840 to be no children being born. They're going to be cutting down. They're going to be no
00:03:34.300 children being born because the modern women are going to be too old to breed. And then 1.00
00:03:39.640 the old, the, the, the, the people that they want, don't want them. And men quite happily 1.00
00:03:44.360 after a certain age, they're going to think, you know what? I've got to the age where I don't
00:03:47.140 want no crying kids in my head. I'd rather just chill, have my own place, live off my
00:03:52.800 own wealth and forget about it. So I think now we need to work on the children that are
00:03:57.800 in school now, because what we're showing them now is wrong. And the thing is, the modern
00:04:03.020 woman knows it's wrong. And rather than turn around, like me, I have messed up my whole
00:04:07.980 life. I have messed up my whole life. I'm not going to turn around and say, oh yes, I've
00:04:13.080 had a perfect relationship. Oh yes, I've had a perfect life. But you know what? If I
00:04:17.080 can avoid somebody else going through the crap that I have, I'm going to try my hardest.
00:04:22.420 But too many people are out there. And rather than say, you know what? I've learned this.
00:04:26.520 I'm going to pass it down. They're not passing it down. They're making it look as if it's
00:04:30.620 all right. And I don't understand that because if it's not working for you, why not pass it
00:04:34.900 on to the next generation so they can see that it's not working.
00:04:38.840 But you know what? Just to say quickly, the solution is not really going back to traditionalism.
00:04:43.620 The solution is instilling people with self-love so that they can value themselves and find
00:04:48.300 the right people for them.
00:04:49.280 What does that even mean? Modern women are obsessed with themselves. Look at fucking 1.00
00:04:54.700 Instagram. But that's, there's a difference. There's a difference. There's obsession and
00:04:59.580 there's like seriously true installation of confidence and self-love. And what I mean by
00:05:04.220 that... Self-love is modern. What does that mean?
00:05:06.040 No, no, no. I'll tell you what it means. Do you want me to tell you what it means?
00:05:09.280 Okay. Okay. Okay. Tell me what it means. Okay. No stress. Self-love means that you are able
00:05:14.460 to understand what you're good at, what you're bad at, what is ugly about you, which means
00:05:18.380 that when you go for somebody, you're not going to let somebody make you feel less than, and
00:05:21.880 you're not going to go for somebody that is way more than you. So you're going to stand
00:05:25.220 in your lane. That's what it is.
00:05:26.280 But modern, modern women love themselves so much that they think they deserve the men that 1.00
00:05:29.280 they... This goes to men and women. 0.78
00:05:30.280 No, modern women. Stop, stop. Modern women love themselves so much that they think they deserve the 1.00
00:05:34.520 men that they sleep with, even though those men do not commit to them. And then they come
00:05:38.780 back and scream trauma.
00:05:40.200 Do you think that the women that are showing off on social media doing a lot of these things, 1.00
00:05:43.760 they think that's self-love or is that actually a lot of insecurity?
00:05:46.020 I think it's narcissism. I think most modern women are very narcissistic. They're usually 1.00
00:05:49.760 obsessed with themselves. They think that they're tense. They think that they're special.
00:05:53.020 And narcissism comes from? When you're literally average.
00:05:55.020 Narcissism comes from? Insecurities.
00:05:57.020 No, I would disagree. I would disagree.
00:05:59.020 No. The narcissist is an extremely insecure person who feels rejected.
00:06:04.020 I think this is like, I think this is modern women babble where they try to psychoanalyze 1.00
00:06:08.180 everybody and they think that they think that they're, they psychoanalyze everybody and
00:06:14.580 they think that they're a therapist and they think that they're a psychologist and they
00:06:17.520 can just psychoanalyze. Narcissists literally think they're better than everyone. They think
00:06:21.140 they're perfect. They can do no wrong.
00:06:23.020 It's a front. Thank you.
00:06:25.020 It's not a front. No, it's a psychological condition. There's literature on this.
00:06:28.020 You're just making stuff up right now.
00:06:30.020 Everybody read Freud for narcissism. It is not insecure. Baby, that person is very, knows
00:06:35.180 who they are.
00:06:36.180 Do you know the definition of a narcissist?
00:06:39.460 I like the fraud. It's literally a clinical condition.
00:06:41.460 No, Freud, I did, I did that in my private school.
00:06:44.580 Screw the definition. I think it's insecurity because that would mean you're right. I think
00:06:49.140 it's need to be right right now. Excuse me? Okay. A narcissist, a person who has an excessive
00:06:54.500 interest or admiration of themselves. It is not insecurity. Where does it stem from?
00:06:58.580 Okay. Okay. You can't ask the individual person. I went deep into research about narcissism because
00:07:04.980 I was very interested. Okay. Okay. But like this, like right here, this, this is a narcissistic trait.
00:07:09.380 Like this, this interaction, because you think you know the definition better than the actual definition.
00:07:14.420 You're like rewrite writing words so you can be right. Well, no, I'm not. Go search for it and
00:07:20.340 go for all the psychology journals. You'll tell them that the narcissist is starts from youth where
00:07:25.540 actually they're going through so many, so many, I don't even know what to tell. Which one?
00:07:30.180 When I was going through my abuse, just Google, just Google how narcissists, just put like how
00:07:35.380 narcissists might come about, just like that, just like that and go check. And actually narcissism actually
00:07:41.460 stems from the fact that the child either was ignored when they were young and so they did
00:07:45.380 everything to come from attention. Okay. Okay. Literally. Okay. This is, this is, this is from Mayo
00:07:51.700 Clinic. Do we, do we agree Mayo Clinic? Yes or no? How do we feel about Mayo Clinic? I don't think so.
00:07:56.420 Mayo Clinic feels a bit like you could with a PDM. I'm a scientist. I will take you with a pinch of
00:08:01.780 salt. Go on. I can, I can pick a different one though. There's no peer reviews. That was just the first one.
00:08:06.820 Yeah. Symptoms. Have an exaggerated self, exaggerated sense of self-importance.
00:08:12.740 Have a sense of entitlement and require constant excessive admiration. Oh, actually go through this.
00:08:18.580 I want you to think of if these describe modern women. Okay.
00:08:22.020 As I, as I go through these. Expect to be recognized as superior, even without achievements
00:08:27.860 that warrant it. Exaggerate achievements and talents. Be preoccupied with fantasies about success,
00:08:34.500 power, brilliance, beauty, or the perfect mate. Believe that they are superior and can only
00:08:40.820 associate with equally special people. Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people
00:08:46.820 they perceive as inferior. Expect special, special favors and unquestioning compliance with their
00:08:52.980 expectations. Take advantage of others to get what they want. Have an inability or unwillingness to
00:08:59.220 recognize the needs and feelings of others. Be envious of others and believe others and be them.
00:09:05.140 Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner coming from a conceited, boastful, and pretentious.
00:09:11.460 Insist on having the best of everything. For instance, the best car, office, etc. Did that describe modern
00:09:17.460 women? Yep. That sounded like, um, like that, like she said, that sounded like somebody really insecure. 1.00
00:09:24.260 Exactly. Exactly.
00:09:25.380 A little bit, but no, a little bit by no. All I wanted to say is that.
00:09:32.260 Gotcha.
00:09:36.660 Also, also, also, also, um, causes environment, genetics, neurobiology.
00:09:41.940 Environment. Mismatches in parent-child relationships, either with excessive adoration
00:09:49.060 or excessive criticism that is poorly attuned to the child's experience. Genetics. Inherited
00:09:55.060 characteristics. Neurobiology. The connection between the brain and behavior and thinking.
00:10:00.740 Risk factors. Narcissistic personality affects more males than females. Doubt it.
00:10:05.540 No, no, no, no, no. I was about to say that. I'm so sorry.
00:10:07.780 I wanted to say is that it sounds like the modern woman, but it sounds like the mother
00:10:12.020 woman who's trying to catch up with the man. Oh, that's what it sounds to me. Do you understand?
00:10:16.900 Because that's meant for you. Men that run companies, whatever, have they lift a finger,
00:10:21.620 male privilege, white privilege. You understand? Like, uh,
00:10:24.340 You think men that run companies don't have to lift a finger? No, no, no. I'm just saying,
00:10:27.940 well, well, well, I don't, they may not work as hard as well. I said, may. I said, may. I said, may.
00:10:34.100 Oh, girl. I said, may. I said, may. It depends.
00:10:36.260 Have you met these men?
00:10:38.020 No, we now have to look at the companies. Okay. I'm talking, let's say the man of say 50,
00:10:43.780 60 years ago, the modern woman of today is trying to catch up with that man.
00:10:47.380 Of 50, 60 years ago.
00:10:49.380 Yeah. The one that was very pompous, like full of himself, like the characteristics you read.
00:10:54.100 What I see is not current men, because also what's funny is that we started this conversation,
00:10:59.380 say what's wrong with the man. And then we now look at the woman and what's faulty with her. 0.89
00:11:03.140 And that's what's funny here. That's what I'm trying to say. So it's like, the woman is faulty, 1.00
00:11:07.540 but who's the woman trying to emulate? She's trying to catch up with the man. 1.00
00:11:12.420 So really the women just need to know their place. Now they're women, they're not men, 1.00
00:11:15.700 and they can't catch up with men. And they need to, as they say, hold their own lane and be women 1.00
00:11:20.500 and allow the men to be men. Yeah. But when we say be in their lane, people should not get offended by,
00:11:27.140 in your lane does not mean in the kitchen. You understand? In your lane doesn't mean in the house.
00:11:30.900 In your lane could be like, okay, if you know that engineering is not for a female field, 1.00
00:11:36.980 leave it for the man. Go find your field. That is the lane. That's like, find what you prosper in.
00:11:41.860 I wouldn't say that. Yeah, but don't complain about it.
00:11:43.460 No, no, no, but what I'm saying, stay in your lane. She's saying like, understand,
00:11:46.100 understand your position. Don't overplay your position. And that is valid for everybody in life,
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