JustPearlyThings - June 25, 2023


Trans Man Contradicts Himself in Real Time


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Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

198.95903

Word count

1,975

Sentence count

1

Harmful content

Misogyny

2

sentences flagged

Hate speech

3

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Summary

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In this episode, we discuss gender dysphoria, therapy before transitioning, the importance of a safe space for transgenders to talk about their gender identity, and the need for legislation to allow trans people to come to terms with their identity.

Transcript

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00:00:00.000 question is do you think that people with gender dysphoria need therapy before transitioning sure
00:00:06.720 they need to make sure that the decision that they're making is a hundred percent what they
00:00:11.520 want to do because if you don't if you like halfway through transitioning you say you turn around and
00:00:16.640 say you don't want to be that particular gender you're transitioning to be it's going to be a 1.00
00:00:20.800 waste of time if that makes sense it's a huge decision it's a very big decision it's so like
00:00:27.680 just like the basic like you as in yourself you have like come to a conclusion that you are
00:00:36.080 so i'm not a female i'm actually a man so it's like you're going to go through that whole process
00:00:41.440 i think it's important to get that therapy first and then just go from there and then you can really
00:00:45.920 make that final decision so it's only fair really isn't it yeah for sure wow everyone agreed on this
00:00:51.600 one no 100 100 100 think that someone should definitely go for therapy like i'm i was even
00:00:56.560 someone that beforehand was would be like i'm not talking to anyone about my ish no one needs to hear
00:01:02.560 my ish that you could just stay in my head it's fine and you know what like it took about 16 sessions
00:01:10.240 for me to actually really talk about the things that i needed to talk about and not necessarily like
00:01:15.680 transitioning but just like things that have culminated in like um like who i am today like
00:01:21.200 the trauma i've been through things i've experienced and so on and so forth like i think it's actually
00:01:25.360 really important and like to to actually have that space where you can sit and you can discuss that
00:01:31.360 stuff and you can talk about it and when it comes to transition i do think you should have therapy before
00:01:35.680 you before you even think about transitioning like it is it is a massive massive step to take
00:01:41.600 obviously society as a whole doesn't necessarily agree with our existence so it is hard i too am
00:01:47.760 muslim so i had to have that take that into consideration as well um i have like a lot of
00:01:53.040 religious family members both christian and muslim um and you know like i had to think about that i also
00:02:00.560 had to think about where i stood in my in my relationship with god in my spirituality as well
00:02:06.080 and you know what like the way i see is i am very very very blessed to have been given the
00:02:11.440 perspective of a female to understand like what it's like to be um objectified what it's like 1.00
00:02:16.400 to be spoken down at work or not to be taken seriously or to you know like to have your feelings
00:02:22.160 null and void because you're just hormonal yeah so i understand what that's like and i really really
00:02:27.520 appreciate being given that opportunity and that you know that perspective but did you see did you
00:02:34.720 see a psychiatrist too and i just saw a counselor okay but either way i feel very blessed i have been
00:02:43.600 given that perspective however i was not comfortable in my body i was 22 stone in that body i've lost over
00:02:51.040 10 stone um since understanding who i am and how i operate i feel so much more comfortable i don't
00:02:59.440 claim that i'm a man if anything i am a very beautiful balance of both i'm very very proud of
00:03:04.800 my femininity i'm very proud of my masculinity the outside now matches the inside i don't pretend to
00:03:10.800 be something that other people think i'm not i am both we strive for balance is that like non-binary
00:03:16.560 then i don't even consider myself non-binary if i label myself as taz that's how i label myself i
00:03:22.640 wouldn't say to anybody i wouldn't try to um coerce someone into thinking that i you know that i'm a
00:03:30.800 man that i was born with male genitalia that's not what i would ever do but i would hope that someone
00:03:36.960 would get to know me as a person before understanding or before knowing my my sexuality my gender or so
00:03:43.600 on because at the end of the day my name's taz i you know i like sunsets i play ice hockey i've done
00:03:49.680 martial arts um i like i like being out in nature like there's so much more to me than just my sex
00:03:56.000 and my gender um and my sexuality so i think it's far more important to actually be able to discuss
00:04:02.480 and to talk to people and to to find out who they are before fully labeling them like i like with all
00:04:08.320 due respect guys i don't care what gender any of you are i don't care who you go to bed with funnily
00:04:13.920 enough it doesn't affect me yeah when you not go to the toilet i'm not thinking what you are doing in
00:04:19.360 there i'm just going to toilet if you're not thinking otherwise then that quite often that's
00:04:23.840 down to either you your experience or the societal rhetoric i don't think people care about what
00:04:33.760 people do in the bathrooms in my opinion i think the bathroom thing is not is really a non-issue i think
00:04:40.080 people would do whatever people want to do at the end of the day but i think the problem is when these
00:04:45.040 things are put into legislation thereby forcing people to act a certain way yeah agreed that's my
00:04:52.400 problem if it's not put into legislation i don't think people are walking around trying to hate on
00:04:58.240 transgender people and say ah this are obviously there are always bad people in society but the 1.00
00:05:02.000 general consensus is i think most people would be okay letting other people live their lives however
00:05:07.760 they want to live it because do you really think there's been that much difference or do you think
00:05:11.600 that because it will blow over eventually right i understand the animosity right now the problem i
00:05:16.880 have with the legislation aspect is that when we start accepting things like this to be passed into
00:05:21.440 legislation then it does a knock-on effect other things would then it's like like what how they're
00:05:29.280 trying to make um because first of all they're putting it in school yeah there was a thing that happened
00:05:33.840 a couple of years ago where they forced everyone to stay indoors and then when it was all over we found
00:05:38.000 out that it was all whatever it was but it's that kind of rhetoric when we keep allowing these things
00:05:43.920 to be passed into legislation that's my whole point it never ends it's hardly the same though i think
00:05:50.720 you know it's hardly the same example i think you know we've got the whole conspiracy theories
00:05:55.280 conspiracy theories in regards to like what you just said just then and lots of other things
00:06:00.720 which is government you know related but this isn't a government thing this is what do you what conspiracy
00:06:06.400 theories like what are you talking about like your colleagues just said over in regards we had to
00:06:10.400 stay in our house for a certain period of time and then we realized we didn't have to do that anymore
00:06:14.080 i mean what do you mean who's who's making you stay in your house i don't get it i'm just going
00:06:18.000 off the basics of what he said three years ago the plan he's talking about david yeah david bovid
00:06:25.920 david oh that's what he told us this girl actually that's what helen said but oh man i forgot my
00:06:33.920 point now but i just think that's a little bit different because that's like a government thing
00:06:38.560 and i'm all for that conspiracy theories i didn't take part in none of them things there yeah still
00:06:43.040 so i i'm i'm fully against that that as well but i'm just saying that i think this is like different
00:06:47.360 because this is like trans people this is people so this is not necessarily like a government trying to
00:06:52.640 push an agenda legislation means putting it into law yeah but it's trying to be fair only because
00:06:59.280 it's trying to be inclusive and be fair yeah it's hardly the same as like uh whatever yeah that that
00:07:06.160 is the point because it's like you're you're forcing like especially like i mean this is a christian
00:07:10.480 country isn't it yeah so it's like you're forcing p i mean i'm not saying i'm not saying i'm not saying
00:07:17.600 yeah but the whole point er and i'm from the us so that's a christian countries we have christian
00:07:22.160 values and now we're going to schools where now they're putting in trans they're trans people are
00:07:26.720 coming in our sports in our bathrooms and it's like you're forcing us to live and act like it's
00:07:31.200 normal when we don't think it is and i hear that you know if you're a religious individual and you've
00:07:36.240 been you know i'm going to call it brainwashed into believing these things then i don't feel
00:07:40.960 brainwashed i've been i've been i've been i was raised into christianity and i take christianity very
00:07:47.920 seriously that's good that's good that's good and it doesn't i'm a spiritual i'm a spiritual
00:07:51.280 person let me just finish i'm a spiritual person yeah i'm a spiritual person i believe in god
00:07:56.720 i believe in all of these things but with religion and spirituality they're different
00:08:00.480 things that's why you've got a lot of people that call themselves they believe in spirituality
00:08:04.720 or they're spiritual people and you've got people that are religious and they put themselves
00:08:08.640 in these boxes of different religions hinduism islam christianity judaism and they all kind of 0.56
00:08:13.600 have the same thing but essentially they've got these laws and these rules that you need to
00:08:16.640 abide by with spirituality which is something that i believe in we're free spirited individuals
00:08:22.000 you know the main thing for us is to to love and to evolve yeah but you live but you live in you
00:08:28.320 you live in the uk and we have an archbishop not a pope he lives in canterbury cathedral
00:08:35.040 can i just make a point we live in the uk we have laws and you couldn't let her finish she's you 1.00
00:08:41.120 you guys have talked a lot let her go i didn't say anything no you keep interrupting her go ahead
00:08:44.960 what i'm trying to say is that you live in the uk and we have laws right you like common indecency
00:08:50.320 you have to be fully clothed right you couldn't just walk the streets naked without no clothes
00:08:54.960 that is a crime so and you're talking about um the different religions different religions and
00:09:00.080 different boxes that's people's religions and cultures and whatever they have going on but we
00:09:04.480 have laws here okay but i'm just saying that you guys brought religion into it by saying about this
00:09:09.520 is a christian country so not everyone in this country but the point is if you choose to live in
00:09:20.000 a christian country there's values that go along with it and so the whole point is that you're
00:09:24.960 coming into a christian country and saying that we need to normalize things that we do not agree with
00:09:30.560 it yeah that's like that's like me like if i if i went to um like i went to i forgot where i was in
00:09:36.560 the middle east but it was a couple years ago and they there were certain places where i went in and
00:09:41.520 i had to cover my hair i don't personally believe that but because i'm in their country like it's
00:09:45.600 disrespectful to force that on them