JustPearlyThings - July 29, 2023


Transgender EXPOSES Gender Transitioning Surgery

Hosted by
Hannah Pearl Davis
Mentioned
Pearl
Modern Man Claimed to be FAITHFUL You Won't Believe Who She CHEATED With

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Length

9 minutes

Words per minute

166.94

Word count

1,595

Sentence count

146

Harmful content

Toxicity

13

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Hate speech

2

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In this episode, I speak to a trans woman who went through the process of transitioning from male to female. She talks about her journey, the challenges she faced and how she managed to get the surgery that allowed her to live her life as her authentic self.

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00:00:00.000 And also what is very interesting in the U.S. especially is the cost on insurance.
00:00:07.540 So they have like a Lupron Puberty Blocker implant, which goes in like once a year or once two years.
00:00:14.340 That is like $47,000 on the insurance.
00:00:18.540 Obviously, the individual doesn't pay the insurance piece.
00:00:21.180 But when an adult has the same thing for, say, a cancer, it's about $7,000.
00:00:26.940 Oh, wow.
00:00:28.420 So what does that mean?
00:00:30.000 That means that if you're a child, there's also that children are worth more on Lupron than an adult is by like a factor of eight or nine.
00:00:40.880 So it's a business.
00:00:42.500 Absolutely.
00:00:43.160 Yeah. 0.98
00:00:43.720 And also when you think about the surgery, so in the U.S. especially, again, the U.S. has got fucking huge problems.
00:00:51.140 You've got all these surgeons who's who like you've got to understand in surgery, especially to get a specialty to get noticed takes a lot to really, really stand amongst the crowd.
00:01:05.480 But then you've got this whole industry where you've got people who are creating new variations, like have you heard of meta surgery where the nullification, where the sort of close stuff up or the put a hole in, but the remove the testicles for a male and the mix and match, essentially.
00:01:24.860 It's totally experimental.
00:01:27.180 Look up nullification surgery.
00:01:30.200 If you dare, don't eat first.
00:01:32.420 Do I want to?
00:01:33.660 Yes, you should.
00:01:34.600 You should.
00:01:35.320 You should.
00:01:35.660 People have looked away for too long, Pearl, right?
00:01:39.840 People need to see what's going on.
00:01:41.640 It is savage.
00:01:42.460 So what also happens, you're a surgeon, right?
00:01:45.240 And you've got this patient group that manages itself.
00:01:49.000 So if there's any regret, if there's any complications, they're going to be, because what happens is when you speak about it, it's like, very sorry that's happened to you.
00:01:57.780 Be careful about your story being picked up by TERFs, because you know what they're like, da-da-da-da-da-da, and all that sort of thing.
00:02:03.300 This is from, like, the trans crowd.
00:02:05.580 So if you live in regret, your surgeon's pretty much laughing, because no one's really going to support you if you really go after them.
00:02:15.400 And there are some people who were doing severe damage, can't name them for libel reasons, but you can easily find out who on certain websites.
00:02:27.780 And also, as I said about the specialty thing, it's very easy to be that specialist.
00:02:35.480 And the case in point is the TikTok surgeon, who does, you know, you may have seen some videos, the yeet, the teat doctor.
00:02:44.440 Oh, Pearl, you need this.
00:02:46.520 You need, there are rabbit holes waiting for you to dive down after this.
00:02:51.500 Like, I swear to God.
00:02:52.600 But you need to have a look at these people, because they've made a lot of social media following by what they do.
00:02:57.780 And it's really quite disturbing, especially when you see the lifestyle behind it and the money that's being made.
00:03:06.340 And I do think money is a big motivator for a lot of these people, to be honest.
00:03:12.420 It's a motivator for everything, but it's easy.
00:03:15.540 So, okay, they basically keep pushing you to get the surgery, even when you express doubt.
00:03:22.580 Yeah.
00:03:23.000 How long was the period between going to that first meeting and getting the surgery?
00:03:29.520 Three years.
00:03:30.700 Okay.
00:03:30.960 Three and a half years.
00:03:32.320 Okay.
00:03:32.580 So you had time.
00:03:34.160 Yeah.
00:03:34.640 Yeah.
00:03:35.400 Wow.
00:03:35.600 I did.
00:03:36.300 Okay.
00:03:36.600 But it was like, while you were going to these therapists and they were telling you, they kept pushing that this is the answer.
00:03:43.220 This is the answer.
00:03:44.000 Yeah.
00:03:44.620 Well, not just that, but it was like, do you want surgery?
00:03:47.200 Do you want surgery?
00:03:48.180 Do you want surgery?
00:03:49.220 Do you want surgery?
00:03:50.560 Oh, so there was no, it was just the same question over and over.
00:03:53.220 Yeah.
00:03:53.860 And like, it wasn't as if you have surgery or else, but you kind of find reasons to reason your way into it, especially when, A, you want to believe this.
00:04:03.940 And two, you're not a well person.
00:04:06.800 And I was not a well person.
00:04:08.360 Right.
00:04:08.800 The things I was doing in 2016 and 17, for instance, are very high risk.
00:04:14.240 I was taking, I was just being absolutely reckless, you know?
00:04:19.800 And I told them everything I was doing.
00:04:22.020 I was, because I believed that because I was truly trans, you know, not like all these fakers and pretenders, because I was truly trans, all I had to do was essentially tell them everything going on in my mind. 0.74
00:04:34.660 And I could fix it all now.
00:04:36.620 And I could live a happily ever after for the rest of my life because I fixed it.
00:04:40.300 So I, when I went out and did something, I'm not saying what, I would tell them drugs, sex, misbehaving wildly, she would say.
00:04:51.660 And I would tell them everything, all the things that would cause me major red flags, you know? 0.99
00:04:57.860 And then I had the surgery and not only whether, did it not go wrong, but again, I felt that sense of why the fuck did I do this? 0.92
00:05:10.880 And ultimately, I'm the one who walked into the hospital. 0.93
00:05:13.760 Nobody dragged us into the hospital, right?
00:05:16.300 But it's a, it's so hard to explain it when you're, when you're out of it versus when you're in it.
00:05:25.260 And I wonder how this conversation would have went five or six years ago.
00:05:29.600 And I wonder how I would have been with you.
00:05:32.380 I was like the, I wasn't the screamer trans person who was screaming at everyone.
00:05:37.140 I was the calm, collected one who could have a conversation.
00:05:40.540 But I would always either do a lot of emotional manipulation, I think.
00:05:45.100 And that's me being honest.
00:05:46.660 And I didn't know I was doing it.
00:05:48.180 It was just, that's kind of the tactics that you get taught to deal with people.
00:05:52.720 What do you mean like emotional manipulation?
00:05:55.200 Like, so if you can't win sort of an argument, you kind of then turn it into yourself and how not having this would kill you and how not, that sort of thing.
00:06:07.700 And like withholding treatment is unethical.
00:06:10.120 All, all those sort of talking points.
00:06:12.260 So what, like, what complications did you have after surgery?
00:06:17.740 What, what was life like once you came out?
00:06:20.540 Oh my God.
00:06:22.020 Um, so first of all, I had heavy bleeding in surgery.
00:06:26.340 So the surgery supposed to last two and a half hours and it lasted five and a half.
00:06:30.660 Cause I was like, I lost 1600 mils on the table.
00:06:34.660 And then on the day after it was like 300 in the drains.
00:06:37.740 And the day after that was two 50 and then it just continued and continued. 0.99
00:06:42.000 So by day five, when that actually eventually gave us a transfusion, I was just fucked. 0.91
00:06:48.760 Like I could not remember a single thing that happened. 0.53
00:06:52.260 But what did happen is you've got these scar lines on your, um, I imagine your pelvic region, the sort of that area, if that makes sense.
00:07:02.040 Yeah.
00:07:02.240 Um, you've got these citra lines that go like, that's called sort of hold it all together.
00:07:08.380 Right.
00:07:09.140 And both of them just popped wide open and that's normal.
00:07:12.340 They got infected.
00:07:13.600 They, that bled more.
00:07:15.040 And I was also obviously catheterized.
00:07:17.340 Everyone's catheterized, which you have a catheter, but I was constricted, which meant that I couldn't pee by myself.
00:07:25.320 And I needed to go home with a catheter.
00:07:28.200 So I had a catheter for like six, seven weeks.
00:07:30.320 And it was really bizarre because it was on a flip switch.
00:07:33.580 Right.
00:07:34.400 So yeah, if you don't know, it's just like a little tap thing that you flip open, but you kind of have to stand up to pee. 0.97
00:07:40.980 And it's like, I've just had this fucking, sorry for swearing. 0.95
00:07:44.780 I hope that's loud. 0.98
00:07:45.840 Um, okay.
00:07:48.180 Yeah.
00:07:48.580 Well, I've just had this surgery, right?
00:07:51.220 And here I am standing over a toilet bowl, pissing. 0.99
00:07:55.320 Like it was just so mind-boggling, but I didn't have a dick. 0.99
00:07:58.660 Obviously I had a catheter, you know, and it was such a weird experience. 0.88
00:08:02.960 And then the, some local district nurses, cause I was in, I had a lot of infection at home.
00:08:09.020 Um, you know, I was like cleaning it daily and I got complimented for my excellent wound care by the surgeons.
00:08:16.900 And you've got to keep in mind that's in Brighton.
00:08:19.060 I'm in Newcastle.
00:08:20.280 That's like 360 miles.
00:08:22.360 So I can't just go down.
00:08:24.660 Um, and they sent some district nurses around who helped, like they gave us some antibiotics and they helped with the, the, uh, infection stuff.
00:08:34.200 And, um, cause the sutures are obviously split and that was the area getting infected.
00:08:39.180 And they took out the catheter, uh, on a like week seven or eight.
00:08:43.940 And I was in the worst agony I've ever been.
00:08:46.620 Like couldn't pee.
00:08:48.620 I just couldn't pee.
00:08:49.440 It was like completely squeezed at the end.
00:08:53.200 So I was like, I was like sweating like on the toilet and in the worst pain I've ever felt.
00:09:00.060 And you worry that you're just going to burst open by like straining too hard as well.
00:09:05.040 And when you do strain, you see specks of blood rather than urine and you just like kind of retract.
00:09:10.300 And yeah, it's just devastating.
00:09:12.920 So I get recathetized and then I went back for two revisions.
00:09:16.440 And I went back for two revisions.
00:09:16.980 I went back for two revisions.
00:09:17.320 And I went back for two revisions.