00:00:43.720And also when you think about the surgery, so in the U.S. especially, again, the U.S. has got fucking huge problems.
00:00:51.140You've got all these surgeons who's who like you've got to understand in surgery, especially to get a specialty to get noticed takes a lot to really, really stand amongst the crowd.
00:01:05.480But then you've got this whole industry where you've got people who are creating new variations, like have you heard of meta surgery where the nullification, where the sort of close stuff up or the put a hole in, but the remove the testicles for a male and the mix and match, essentially.
00:01:42.460So what also happens, you're a surgeon, right?
00:01:45.240And you've got this patient group that manages itself.
00:01:49.000So if there's any regret, if there's any complications, they're going to be, because what happens is when you speak about it, it's like, very sorry that's happened to you.
00:01:57.780Be careful about your story being picked up by TERFs, because you know what they're like, da-da-da-da-da-da, and all that sort of thing.
00:02:05.580So if you live in regret, your surgeon's pretty much laughing, because no one's really going to support you if you really go after them.
00:02:15.400And there are some people who were doing severe damage, can't name them for libel reasons, but you can easily find out who on certain websites.
00:02:27.780And also, as I said about the specialty thing, it's very easy to be that specialist.
00:02:35.480And the case in point is the TikTok surgeon, who does, you know, you may have seen some videos, the yeet, the teat doctor.
00:03:53.860And like, it wasn't as if you have surgery or else, but you kind of find reasons to reason your way into it, especially when, A, you want to believe this.
00:04:08.800The things I was doing in 2016 and 17, for instance, are very high risk.
00:04:14.240I was taking, I was just being absolutely reckless, you know?
00:04:19.800And I told them everything I was doing.
00:04:22.020I was, because I believed that because I was truly trans, you know, not like all these fakers and pretenders, because I was truly trans, all I had to do was essentially tell them everything going on in my mind.
00:05:48.180It was just, that's kind of the tactics that you get taught to deal with people.
00:05:52.720What do you mean like emotional manipulation?
00:05:55.200Like, so if you can't win sort of an argument, you kind of then turn it into yourself and how not having this would kill you and how not, that sort of thing.
00:06:07.700And like withholding treatment is unethical.
00:06:10.120All, all those sort of talking points.
00:06:12.260So what, like, what complications did you have after surgery?
00:06:17.740What, what was life like once you came out?
00:08:24.660Um, and they sent some district nurses around who helped, like they gave us some antibiotics and they helped with the, the, uh, infection stuff.
00:08:34.200And, um, cause the sutures are obviously split and that was the area getting infected.
00:08:39.180And they took out the catheter, uh, on a like week seven or eight.
00:08:43.940And I was in the worst agony I've ever been.