JustPearlyThings - June 12, 2023


Twitter Comes After Pearl For Saying This


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10 minutes

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152

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In this episode, I sit down with a good friend of mine who is a second generation Zimbabwean. We talk about what it's like being a Zimbabwean in the 21st century and how the culture has changed in the past 20 years.

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00:00:00.000 So why do you think, like, what's with the second generation Zimbabweans?
00:00:06.420 Like, why do they have this negative picture of Zimbabwe?
00:00:09.060 Like, because you grew up in Zimbabwe.
00:00:10.580 Yeah, I grew up in Zimbabwe, yeah.
00:00:12.060 I think it's just, you know, the westernized ones, especially the girls, 0.67
00:00:18.000 they have, like, a lot of parental issues.
00:00:20.560 I think when you come to the western world, it's a bit more liberal here than Zimbabwe.
00:00:23.920 We're more of, like, a conservative nation, you know,
00:00:26.600 what the parents say is good, all of that.
00:00:30.500 So when they come over here and they start getting all these ideas,
00:00:33.860 like, oh, I can think for myself and I can do all this stuff,
00:00:38.320 they don't have a respectful story.
00:00:41.160 Yeah, it just gets crazy after that.
00:00:44.260 Now, it's so interesting because it's, like, you're leaving a culture where, like, family,
00:00:48.560 I mean, I don't know much about the stats from Zimbabwe in particular,
00:00:51.360 but it seems like families, just from talking to you, like, family is super important there.
00:00:55.000 And it's, like, we'll leave a culture that worked and go to a culture that's,
00:00:59.180 for families anyway, worse.
00:01:00.960 But it's, like, they'll shit on it later and it's so weird to me.
00:01:04.740 Yeah, and our grandmothers understood that.
00:01:06.220 You heard herself, like, when she went to Zimbabwe and they're asking all these questions.
00:01:09.940 They're all based, so they'll be, like, you know, you have to stay. 1.00
00:01:14.140 If anything goes wrong in a marriage, you have to stay.
00:01:16.060 If anything goes wrong in this, you have to stay because they understand the importance of family as well.
00:01:20.580 So, but as much as, you know, we would like that to happen as well.
00:01:24.880 There was a mass, like, exodus from Zimbabwe because of our financial situation.
00:01:28.720 So, a lot of people left Zimbabwe and went to Canada, UK, USA, and a lot of that.
00:01:33.580 So, there's a lot of, like, second-generation Zimbabweans that are Westerners.
00:01:38.100 So, yeah, the relationship dynamic right now, it's a big crazy.
00:01:42.320 Well, I didn't even get to the point of the show.
00:01:44.300 So, guys, I broke Twitter the other day.
00:01:49.660 I was beefing.
00:01:51.060 I was beefing.
00:01:52.980 I freaking tweeted the other day something that broke Twitter.
00:02:00.360 It's going to get, like, 10 million views.
00:02:02.100 I think it's on track to get because I tweeted, I tweeted, let me ask my wife with, like, a barfing emoji.
00:02:10.640 And the reason I tweeted this, a lot of people, you know, didn't understand why I tweeted this,
00:02:17.620 is I had this epiphany the other day that we don't really have traditional relationships anymore
00:02:23.540 because even in the more traditional relationships on paper, the woman still runs it 1.00
00:02:29.600 because the man is constantly doing what the woman wants because they don't want her to freak out
00:02:34.720 and men just want, like, what's easy and they're like, I'll just go with what she wants.
00:02:37.740 And I realized, like, a lot of men, when they want to make a decision, they'll say, let me ask my wife.
00:02:43.580 And it's not in a way, like, I want to consult her.
00:02:46.000 And I was thinking of, like, a boss, like, employee relationship.
00:02:49.280 And I'm like, a boss wouldn't go to his superior and say, or what's it, superior below you?
00:02:55.840 Superior.
00:02:56.160 And say, like, you, I need you to make this decision for me.
00:03:02.260 Inferior.
00:03:02.620 Oh, inferior.
00:03:03.700 So that's what I was thinking.
00:03:05.000 I'm like, wait.
00:03:05.740 But as inferior and ask for their permission, they might ask for information,
00:03:09.920 but there's a difference between information and permission.
00:03:12.580 And this erupted the internet.
00:03:14.160 Everyone's like, I ask my wife for things.
00:03:16.880 And I'm like, there's a difference between asking for information and asking for her permission.
00:03:21.060 Yeah, that's, like, a modern perspective now that people have, like, let me ask my wife for things, you know.
00:03:28.200 You know, I know my girl is watching this, but I don't care.
00:03:33.440 Sorry.
00:03:34.700 But there's a thing of, like, I think it's, like, infected society in general now.
00:03:41.180 Like, if you see all the TV movies, you see, like, the dramas, whatever.
00:03:46.260 It's, like, the wife is, like, the smart one. 1.00
00:03:49.320 The husband is the dumb one.
00:03:51.220 Everything goes wrong.
00:03:52.440 The husband has to go to, like, the wife, like, Simpsons.
00:03:56.160 Like, that's a cartoon.
00:03:57.200 So it's programming people from young, from young age, that as much as you get a happy wife, happy life from a young age,
00:04:05.700 you're just going to think that your wife is going to be smarter than you. 1.00
00:04:08.760 So I think that's, you know, I think you can ask for information, yeah,
00:04:12.680 but when they ask for permission, it's a bit more, it's not godly.
00:04:17.340 As a Christian man, I don't think that's godly.
00:04:19.560 And I'm so tired of hearing Christians say we have to submit to each other.
00:04:23.640 Like, you guys are supposed to submit to each other.
00:04:25.860 No, they take one verse out of context that says that give each other to yourself.
00:04:30.100 When it's talking about giving your body, like, your body doesn't belong to you.
00:04:34.280 It belongs to your wife. 0.99
00:04:36.420 Or your wife's body doesn't belong to you. 1.00
00:04:38.020 It belongs to the husband. 0.59
00:04:38.920 And that's the verse that people take in terms of submitting each other.
00:04:42.140 But the Bible says that the husband is the head of the family, just as Christ is the head of the church.
00:04:48.700 So as the head, that means that you are the decision maker.
00:04:52.340 So if people want to pivot towards that verse, that's a bit more of a liberal kind of approach to it,
00:04:58.120 to say that because this verse says that I should give my body to my wife,
00:05:02.540 that means that we need to submit to each other.
00:05:04.680 But that's not the case.
00:05:06.020 Well, and I started thinking about other things, right?
00:05:08.700 Like I saw, can we play the pastor one that, blessing, you sent this to me.
00:05:14.120 But I started thinking about other things in context of like an employee, like employer-employee relationship.
00:05:21.260 And I was thinking about arguments.
00:05:22.800 And I'm like, if they're arguing, like that's a sign that the, like, you wouldn't argue with your boss.
00:05:29.200 You just say, okay.
00:05:30.780 But like women are not taught to say, okay. 0.89
00:05:32.620 They're taught to like question everything.
00:05:34.940 Yeah, that happens a lot now, especially in this modern society.
00:05:39.060 Why not?
00:05:39.760 We can watch this and then we can all go home.
00:05:42.740 Yeah.
00:05:42.960 Yeah.
00:05:43.280 It's been a long day.
00:05:44.720 Thank you, Chad, for being nice to me.
00:05:46.180 Yeah, yeah.
00:05:47.240 I'm scared of this for you.
00:05:48.680 It's crazy.
00:05:50.860 If every man and every woman married at 30, companies would go bankrupt. 1.00
00:05:56.060 Fashion surgery, fitness, online dating companies, push the narrative that women can have it all. 1.00
00:06:00.800 Keep them spending and consuming.
00:06:03.080 Let's go into female pastors. 1.00
00:06:07.320 Oh, wait, play this.
00:06:13.280 How are you going to play?
00:06:15.720 Is it there?
00:06:18.480 It's so hot in here.
00:06:19.840 When I was in Dubai, Elet said, what if the words that were spoken were spoken by my husband
00:06:43.320 why at least we were arguing?
00:06:45.620 I said, number one, why were you arguing with your husband?
00:06:49.900 By calling the script position.
00:06:52.020 Then the man goes like, what are you saying?
00:06:53.780 You think we are at the same level here?
00:06:56.300 And then arguments ensue.
00:06:58.280 So arguments should never be there because there should not be an argument.
00:07:00.940 Why?
00:07:01.360 Because there's nobody who should be arguing with the leader of the house.
00:07:05.640 There should not be discussions in the family.
00:07:11.020 Now, that means in marriage, if you are the sacrifice to God, you will follow God's plan.
00:07:18.760 In marriage, if you are the sacrifice of God, you have to follow the plan of God.
00:07:22.080 And that's the message no one wants to hear right there.
00:07:23.280 And you men, don't just say because the wife went this direction.
00:07:25.940 You know what I was thinking, too?
00:07:27.240 The fact that women spend 80% of the time, it's like unbiblical when you think about it 1.00
00:07:32.060 because that means she's in charge of the finances in the house.
00:07:34.900 But she's not supposed to be making the decisions.
00:07:37.100 It's supposed to be the guy.
00:07:39.040 Yeah, it's meant to be the man, really.
00:07:40.520 That's why even if you look in the Bible, the Bible is quite right on a lot of these things. 0.68
00:07:46.340 But, you know, as feminism gained destruction, it infiltrated the church as well. 1.00
00:07:51.260 So, you get a lot of things that bring a lot of equality in the Bible in terms of women.
00:07:58.580 But not to say that women don't have a place, but their place is just no leadership. 1.00
00:08:04.620 Right.
00:08:05.680 Yeah.
00:08:06.340 And, you know, I know a lot of Christians are going to be beefing me on this one.
00:08:10.920 But, and I go to a church that has female pastors. 1.00
00:08:13.700 How do you feel about female pastors? 1.00
00:08:20.240 Well, in a way, it's not, I mean, I haven't done too much studies,
00:08:26.420 but I don't think it's biblical to have female pastors, right? 0.82
00:08:29.640 But at the same time as well, it's not really like I can leave my church
00:08:32.760 because I honor my father and my mother.
00:08:36.540 And this is the church that I was raised on.
00:08:38.480 So, I'm not going to become too westernized to the point where I'm just like, just because.
00:08:41.880 I'm not telling you to leave your church.
00:08:43.740 I'm asking what you think about the pastor's blessing.
00:08:47.920 Yeah.
00:08:48.220 Are you thinking about it?
00:08:49.360 Is that what comes to your head?
00:08:50.660 You're bringing it up.
00:08:52.000 No, no, no.
00:08:53.460 You know, when you become an adult, you have to make a decision for yourself sometimes, you know.
00:08:57.220 But I think it's a decision that you make when you get married.
00:09:00.140 Because when you get married, the Bible says you leave your father and your mother
00:09:03.500 and you join with your wife and become one.
00:09:05.900 And I think that's when you can make a decision of where your family is going
00:09:08.860 because now you are not the head of the family.
00:09:10.560 But now as I stand as a single person, I'm not the head of the family.
00:09:13.740 I'm still in submission to the authority in my family because I can't leave the family yet.
00:09:19.840 So, people get that wrong.
00:09:21.400 You know, when people leave their family religion or ideology,
00:09:26.580 sometimes I have a bit of disagreement with that because.
00:09:31.140 Didn't, like, Christianity come to Africa?
00:09:36.200 Didn't, like, someone have to have left their families?
00:09:38.640 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:40.820 Christian was bought by the.
00:09:41.860 So, should you be whatever.
00:09:44.580 The traditional one.
00:09:45.820 Yeah, like, whatever was before that.
00:09:47.640 Like, were they wrong?
00:09:49.340 Because the way I was raised, I was raised Christian already.
00:09:52.100 I don't think they're wrong.
00:09:53.560 I'm for African tradition.
00:09:55.380 It was there before me.
00:09:56.500 Yeah.
00:09:56.760 And I think, you know, if you are fortunate enough to have that culture in your family, embrace it.
00:10:02.260 It's just not my experience, yeah.
00:10:04.800 Now, I was just wondering if you thought the same thing, like, because I just thought Christianity came to Africa.
00:10:10.500 It did, yeah.
00:10:11.400 It's not really original.
00:10:12.500 But, again, again, there is also the Ethiopian Orthodoxy Church.
00:10:17.620 So, there is conspiracies about this, whether Christianity was introduced to Africa or reintroduced to Africa.
00:10:27.920 It was already in Africa.
00:10:28.840 So,
00:10:29.100 Alright.
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