w NOTHING about Marriage! The TRADITION Family Will Save Us ｜ Pearl Daily
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Summary
This week on Pearl Daily, we hear about a man who is a convicted child rapist and child molester, and a woman who is looking for a new man to take her out on a date. We also hear about an account that is going viral on social media where men are putting together a dating profile with a very attractive model-esque type of guy.
Transcript
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Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
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I'm going to take breaks in the show to read your comments, but only in the live chat on
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So our first story today was an interesting one.
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So oftentimes we hear women talk about how we love men's personalities.
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We want a funny guy, a charming man, and we don't really care about looks, but we care
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But unfortunately, sometimes I'm disappointed in my own gender because we say things, but
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So an account is going viral on Twitter talking about a science experiment of men putting together
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a dating profile with a very attractive model-esque type of guy, as you see here.
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So now remember, women say that we don't care about looks at all.
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We just want a guy with a good personality that treats us right.
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You should know that I've had trouble with the law my whole life.
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Convicted three times for rape of a child and once for sexual activity with a child.
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But to be fair, she turned 16 like a week later.
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I'm on Tinder because maybe if I F some of you sluts, I'll stop wanting to be with kids.
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It's unlikely they're way tighter than your beef curtain cunts.
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I hope you can therefore forgive me for my past crimes.
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And you would think that because women, we only care about a man's personality and character,
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Well, unfortunately, that was just not the case.
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She said, hey, handsome, how is your week going?
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Another woman named Amber, she says, I can absolve you of your sins tonight.
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Molly says, hey, when I was seven, I stole a gumball from my corner store and felt guilty
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He said, I'm surprised you're still out roaming the streets after such a heinous crime.
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I don't think I'd mind as long as we're locked up together.
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I'm surprised you're still out roaming the streets after such a, oh, wait.
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Another woman says, what are you doing tonight?
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Now, obviously, maybe it was just this, you know, maybe it was just this guy, right?
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I mean, there can't be a pattern for this sort of thing, right, guys?
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This can't be a normal thing for us to be interested in.
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You should know this about me because you'll see the ankle monitor.
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Made some mistakes, but working each day to fix them.
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Longer stuff is cool, but can't be around in a month because I have to go back to jail
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She is overreacting about a few slaps I gave her a year ago.
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He was eight and my mind felt it was consensual.
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I guess it's cool that you're being honest about it.
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Now, this woman, 28 years old, says, hey, we matched.
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If you didn't read my profile already, check it out.
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Explains why I wear an ankle monitor, which you'll probably see when my clothes are off.
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He said, lol, yeah, it's serious, but it's in the past.
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That's super effed up, but I would just rather we stop talking about it.
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I didn't say I was done talking to you about other stuff.
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This woman was willing to date a man who had done stuff with a two and a half year old
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And this is a normal looking 28 year old woman, you know, because the one complaint
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I always get is it's the type of women, certain types of women are like that.
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You go and find special women to put on your show.
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Just read my profile, see what I did, and then brush it aside and we can go ahead and
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So your plan is to boss me around and expect me to do everything you say because why?
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Just make sure you read my profile though, seriously.
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Yeah, I read it and I'm okay with it as long as you are a different person.
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Now, this is a woman, what would you guys put her?
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Good looking, good looking lady is okay with the child.
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Well, it seems like you've been through a lot and learned your lesson.
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I'm cooking dinner and you, he says he's horny AF.
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They're trying to do the same, um, experiment, but with serial killers.
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I hear the women are a little better looking there.
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So our next story was, as you guys know, there has been a rise in single mother households.
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And one of the challenges you get when there's no father in the home is a lack of a discipline.
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So it's no wonder that we're seeing more and more videos of children acting out.
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And there is one that is currently going viral on Twitter.
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So there is a, um, a child that was freaking out in Walmart.
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So there was a child that was, no, I forgot to do it.
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So there was a child that was freaking out in Walmart, just throwing everything around
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Did you hear she said, don't do that to a little girl when they're trying to get her
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This is the next generation of women raised by strong and independent single mothers because
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And this is what happens when you have some of the problems in the family court system.
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Um, by the way, guys, if you want, I am doing a documentary.
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Um, and we're trying to, uh, fund this divorce documentary because we are currently demonetized.
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You know, that's why I got to, you know, whatever.
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But that is what we're getting with leftist policies, right?
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And then we're, we are taking out discipline from the home.
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And you have these kids that are going absurd because they are just simply not, they don't
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have a father to be afraid of, you know, and as most of you know, I have been fighting
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So next on the agenda is women, I guess, are very upset by Donald Trump's election and
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they're really, you know, the one thing, sometimes when I complain about feminists, you know, I
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just, I maybe label them as incompetent or lazy.
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And I just want you to know that I am actually very, very proud of them because right now they have a plan.
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And I am really proud of these ladies for doing something to really show the patriarchy and show this country that they're upset.
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These women, including OnlyFans models, are getting sterilized and blaming Trump for their decision.
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You can't say, you can't say they did not take action.
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So these women are getting elective surgical procedures to render themselves infertile.
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The women who are speaking proudly about their decision say it's their, it's because they fear a reproductive rights crackdown under a second Trump administration.
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Newsweek recently spoke to multiple women, including an OnlyFans model.
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I know you guys were really looking for an OnlyFans model to be the mother of your children.
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So they said they were turning to invasive, irreversible medical procedures to ensure their reproductive freedoms remain untrodden upon.
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Eden, 25 of Florida, who creates content for the adult oriented site, told the outlet for me, the idea of getting pregnant is worse than death.
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And they say women are meant to be mothers, right?
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Okay, so she said she was making plans to have a bilateral splintectomy, a procedure in which her fallopian tubes will be removed.
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For me, it was a call to action, a need to get locked in so I don't live in fear that at any moment a random guy can destroy my life, she said.
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For me, the idea of getting pregnant is worse than death.
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I'm doing what I can to protect my right to choose.
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She told the Post she was mewling the procedure before Election Day, but his winning just made me want to actually get it in my calendar.
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She wasn't the only woman considering this procedure with politics in mind.
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If I am denied any rights for the next four years, I will not give them up without a fight, says Lydia, 28 of Texas.
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She also plans to have her fallopian tubes removed.
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An unidentified 39-year-old said she wished she had just gotten the procedure, who said she had just gotten the procedure, told the outlet she felt she had no choice after the election results.
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I mean, how much she didn't really have to do all that, did she?
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At 39 years old, like you can barely get pregnant anyways.
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That's like the the fat kid at the end of the bench on a basketball team saying, I quit.
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That's the equivalent of a 39 year old saying she's getting her tubes tied.
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I am not happy that I felt forced into this surgery.
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I felt like the election tied my hands and forced me to be sterilized.
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Another woman who said she and her husband both never wanted children described her decision using language straight out of a dystopian novel and TV series,
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The Handmaid's Tale, in which women are second class citizens.
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I paid too much attention to the vitriol Trump repeatedly spit during his previous term and I'm keenly aware he keeps around the people he keeps around him and in his ear,
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who all seem to see women as incubators and possessions to subjugate, she told the outlet.
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She had preemptively scheduled her appointment to be sterilized in October, claiming she was fully planning to cancel the surgery the day after the election.
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In describing her choice to Newsweek, the woman used language that suggested elective surgery was forced upon her.
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With Trump's victory, we quickly learned that my choice to cancel the surgery had been taken from me.
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I'm sure someone just put a gun to her head, right?
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This isn't a weird procedure, but one of necessity due to the politics and subjugation coming on our way.
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On a post on the Child Free subreddit about the Newsweek article, women were launching their decision to get sterilized as young as 21 years old.
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Some throwing around extreme claims now rooted in reality.
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When you pass laws that murder women on a regular basis, what are you going to do?
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I want to get sterilized so bad, but I don't have the money and I want and I don't want this procedure to come up on my parents insurance.
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Other women are coping with Trump's dominant election win with a good old fashioned sex strike.
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We all need a plan of action and I'm really proud that you're going, that you're out there doing the thing.
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Across TikTok and X, there's been a surge of videos of women aligning themselves with a South Korean feminist protest known as 4B in which participants say the 4 No's having sex with men, giving birth, dating men, or getting married to men.
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Others have even taken to shaving their heads in an attempt at signaling some sort of vague anti-patriarchal sentiment or encouraging their viewers to dump their Trump-supporting husbands and boyfriends will just be devastated.
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I'm sure they're in such a happy relationship that they will be devastated when they're dumped by these feminist ladies.
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I think you, you know what, I think you ladies are actually not going far enough.
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I think you ladies just need to keep going further.
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The movement that has been widely mocked online with some, including women.
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Who would, I can't, who would mock such an awesome movement?
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Their sanity or calling their behavior attention-seeking and cringe.
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This is, I mean, they have a good reason for this.
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Evolutionary dead ends cutting their own branches off.
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Sounds like they need lobotomies instead, quiped another.
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Nothing says defeat like eliminating yourself from the gene pool.
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Hey, Trump has sent mixed signals about his support for abortion, right?
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At times boasting about his role in getting Roe v. Wade overturned, but he's also repeatedly
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vowed that he would not support a federal abortion ban, even threatening to veto one should
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Soon to be first lady Melania Trump also famous, famously made her staunch support of abortion
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rights, known in a clip posted on social media to promote her memoir, Melania.
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Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that I safeguard, said Melania.
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Without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when it comes to the essential right that all
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Meanwhile, the number of abortions since Roe v. Wade has actually ticked up slightly, which
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experts say, thanks to a wider availability of abortion pills by mail.
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Well, um, I can't think of anything more, anything more effective at decreasing the number of
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abortions every year by these ladies getting their tubes tied.
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So the next story we're going to talk about today, he's on, right?
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So the next story we're going to talk about today, um, is actually somebody that I saw
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come up on a, he, he had made some videos talking about some of my points that he disagreed
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And the one thing that I do appreciate about my critics and detractors, it was when they're
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willing to come on and have a discussion with me on live.
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So I actually invited him on the show 90% of the time when I invite people that disagree
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And so he has the, hold on, let me pull something up.
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Um, so I'm just going to pull one thing up on the, uh, here we go.
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He has a YouTube channel with a hundred thousand subscribers and, um, he had a couple videos made
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One thing I shouldn't talk about marriage, a couple defending Nala Ray and just commenting
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So I wanted to invite him on the show and yeah, you can bring him up.
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I'm right outside of DC, um, Northern Virginia area.
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So I kind of wanted to start with some of the points that you made in your video.
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And I wanted to talk about where we disagree maybe to start.
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So do you want to start with the Nala Ray situation?
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So I want to know why you felt like I was wrong to point out that her conversion did not seem
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Well, I guess my question to you would be is, are you questioning her conversion or are you,
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or are you questioning her, her, her detriment, I would say to Christianity or do you have
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do you feel as though she's trying to con Christians into believing that she's a convert for money?
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Because it seems like that was more so your take.
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So you don't believe that this girl stopped doing only fans because she found Christ and
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I mean, I know you just talked to Andrew Wilson last week.
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If we want to talk philosophically and theologically about the Christianity that she, that she
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But in my opinion, and this is where I disagreed with you is I, and I said, you have a hopeless
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And that's basically what I'm defending here in that I believe that if somebody wants to
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turn their life around and turn away from sin, I guess you can say, if we're going to
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speak in religious language, that is a good thing.
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Now, how she went about doing it, doing it publicly, now turning into, you know, what you
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That is where I would say, okay, like, you know, don't agree with everything that she's
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But like I said, and I think a tweet that I responded to of yours, like, I think we can
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all agree that Nala not being an OnlyFans model, I'll use appropriate language here,
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a hooker and being a confused Christian is better for her, right?
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Yeah, but the problem is I've seen this film before, and I don't think it's necessarily
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a good thing when we have an OnlyFans model to preach her pipeline, and I'm not allowed
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So one thing that she claimed was that she was baptized and she had a change of heart in
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Not one, not two, not three, not four, but five.
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She doesn't delete it until the day before the Michael Knowles interview.
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She has active chats going on where she's communicating with men and still sending nudes.
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So, you know, she can say one thing, but if I look at her actions, I think if you're claiming
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I had a change of heart in December and this isn't about money, then you wouldn't make it
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You wouldn't start a Jesus Christ brand, right?
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And I think that's the challenge where I just think that people blindly believing her
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And I know that you said that, and I know you've recently come out and said that I was
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Can you clarify what you're claiming to be right about?
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So if I would say that I am right that she did not have a change of heart because she
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So I think it was, it was very, so only fans, where's my interview?
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And the thing is, the problem when we're clapping for, like, she's doing the bare minimum.
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And it's not even the bare minimum because she goes on a podcast with, on whatever, and
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So it's, it's very clear, you know, it's very clear that she hasn't been reading her
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Bible, that she doesn't know what she's talking about.
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Like, what actions other than the bare minimum has she done?
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My question to you would be, what is there to gain for you in claiming that you are right?
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So what, what is there, what is there to gain for you for her failing to change her
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Well, I think that the truth is important regardless of how it makes people feel.
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Porn star becomes a pastor, really changes her life.
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But if the facts don't line up with, with what she's saying and, you know, magically when she's
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getting the Christian clout, that's when she's magically deciding to delete it.
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You know, if we look at the incentives, you know, I'm not going to stop saying it just
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because it makes people, it ruins people's story.
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And I think, I think we should stand for the truth.
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Now, here's my thing that, you know, and when it comes down to it, like, I don't think that
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Nala should necessarily be a Christian influence or even though it seems like she's trying to
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be, I certainly don't think that she gets to be a pastor, but that's where, you know,
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when it comes to, to my faith, which is I'm, I'm a Catholic versus a Protestant faith.
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Like you don't just get to become a pastor in, in my tradition, for example.
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And same with, you know, Andrew Wilson, who's, who's Orthodox.
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And then in order to even enter into the Catholic church, you have to go through an initiation
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But I agree with Andrew Wilson and that what Nala has turned into is a, you know, he calls
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it buffet Christianity, where she can pick and choose the things that she likes.
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And that is not the case for a number of denominations, like even good Protestant, obviously good
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Protestant ones, Catholic, Orthodox, et cetera.
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We are subject to the interpretation that we've been given by the authority of the church,
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But we don't get to go in and interpret our own scripture.
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So I think this is the problem when it comes to Christian only fans models, basically justifying
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Like that does, that's not the way that it works.
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But you're, but you're part, but you become part of the problem when you're white knighting
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for her and like you make, okay, you make videos condemning me for saying what I said,
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And you don't make any video condemning her now.
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Like, where's the, where's the video now where you say, Hey, you shouldn't be preaching.
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I'm not saying I saw it all, but you know, it's like, that's what I get from Christians.
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They're mad at me for my tone and me for pointing it out, but they're not mad at her
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for being disrespectful to Andrew and, you know, spreading things that are not true.
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I'll grant to you that her, her current, her current behavior, her current theology, I do
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Um, now that being said, when it comes down to me and you, when the reason that I did that
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video is because I truly believe, and I stand by this, that if somebody is saying that they
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are going to change their life, then I'm, as a Christian, I am, of course we can be skeptical.
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Of course, it doesn't mean don't be skeptical, which I think obviously is important.
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Because I think that level of skepticism is important.
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But again, like you, you cited the prodigal son when you were going after her and the prodigal
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son is a, is a great story and it's a great example.
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And it refers to all of us, like every single one of us, like we've all made mistakes.
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Like it's hopeless to say that none of us can turn our lives around.
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Like we all have to turn our lives around from something.
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What, um, you know, it may not be as extreme as something like Nala did.
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Like I've never done only fans, like, you know, but I'm not going to sit here and say
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And there aren't things that I've had to get over and turn my life around from.
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So what's, what's, what's more important actions or words?
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So other than deleting the only fans after she got Christianity clout, so I'm not, I'm
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not even going to give that as a bonus because she just traded it.
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We all know if you look at the demographics, white Christian men are only fans customers.
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You could talk to any only fans model, married Christian men.
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So all she did was substitute in her old fans for her, for new Christian fans that are just
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And if she ever goes back into it, it's still a backup, right?
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So other, other than the, the deleting, the only fans, what did she do?
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So you were community noted for fudging the timelines on, on her deleting her only fans
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account, from what I understand, there's a delay in how only fans allows you to delete account,
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So no, they were, they were, they were incorrect because what they did was they flagged me because
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it's a sympathetic and it's, it's defend women at all costs.
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If she, if she deleted it the day before the baptism, you still would have had three months
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to clear your contact or five months to clear your contact, make sure all your chats aren't
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active anymore and take actual action to clear it.
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Well, you, you said actions, but we both agreed that actions are more important.
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So she's a Chris, she just traded in the one clout for the other.
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I mean, like if she was sitting in the back of the church, quiet, reading her Bible, no
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one would have any problem, but it's that it's becoming a only fans to Christians.
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Do you think that there's any value in, uh, previous women who are in women who were previously
00:37:12.300
doing only fans coming out and talking about how terrible the lifestyle is and turning their
00:37:19.980
I'd rather hear from the women that didn't do it and lived virtuous lives.
00:37:24.080
I think that when you have ex hoes going around saying, Hey, you can do whatever you
00:37:29.880
want and still get married after you're basically telling younger women.
00:37:33.780
You can literally do only fans and a man will marry you after.
00:37:39.620
So you think they're incentivizing that behavior and then they have basically an off ramp later
00:37:50.800
And the thing is, cause I've actually interviewed, you've seen my show.
00:37:54.020
So I've interviewed these women and when they're doing it, it's not cause they're coerced.
00:37:58.740
It's not cause they don't know what they're doing.
00:38:01.680
And a lot of these women have a huge addiction to attention.
00:38:05.820
So do I believe overnight that a woman with such an addiction to attention that she got
00:38:11.180
tag teamed on camera by two men at the same time that in five months she's magically better
00:38:25.520
Well, and I think that we, I mean, again, I don't think our, our points of difference are,
00:38:32.080
I mean, again, in my tradition, you know, when I speak from my own experience, like this is
00:38:36.780
not something that I necessarily have to deal with other than seeing this online.
00:38:41.000
Because again, when you become Catholic, you have to go through a fairly long initiation
00:38:48.080
And then once you become Catholic, you sit in the pew, just like all the rest of the lay
00:38:52.580
And you listen to, you know, you listen to the priest every Sunday that there's no, there's
00:39:00.820
There's no me coming up with my own interpretation of scripture.
00:39:04.600
So this, the first time I saw this, the first time I saw this was in the Catholic church.
00:39:09.040
The first, the first, like it's the same thing, Christiana and Jason Everett, it was the wife
00:39:15.060
got ran through in high school, said, oops, sorry.
00:39:18.000
And then she got a husband after it's like the same story.
00:39:25.080
So I meant they have the same thing, but with chastity speakers, it's like the same thing.
00:39:30.860
I mean, I mean, the last generation didn't have only fans, but it's like they were hoes.
00:39:37.800
Christiana, Jason Everett, they're Catholic speakers.
00:39:43.860
Cause we would have a different one every year and it would be the same story.
00:39:47.860
It'd be like the, the guy who like cleaned up her mess, the girl who did whatever she
00:39:56.100
I mean, you know, again, like when it comes to Catholic marriage prep and a lot of the
00:40:00.420
Catholic education, I mean, I'll say this, and I've been outspoken about this on my channel.
00:40:08.280
Um, I think like 90% or so of Catholic education and pre-education comes from, from women.
00:40:14.400
I mean, there's a, there's certainly a male leadership problem within the Catholic church.
00:40:26.380
I mean, yeah, I'm not going to sit here and deny that the Catholic church, um, has not
00:40:33.580
I mean, I think that that, I think you see that, um, I think that's obvious, but, um,
00:40:38.440
so if even, so if even you're agreeing that the Catholic church has been influenced by feminism,
00:40:43.520
how can you still push Catholic marriage and say that feminism won't influence it?
00:40:48.580
Cause that's like the next point we're going to go through.
00:40:51.700
Well, I mean, I think we can get into marriage.
00:40:54.220
So again, I'm talking about the women today that men have to pick from as wives are not
00:41:09.560
Well, I mean, a prerequisite, I mean, it helps.
00:41:14.960
I mean, there are, there are plenty of statistics on, and I know, you know, this on men and women
00:41:21.540
who attend church weekly, every Sunday, men and women who pray together, and I know we
00:41:28.660
I know you've pushed back on that many, many times.
00:41:31.100
Um, those individuals are less likely to cohabitate before, before marriage.
00:41:38.100
They're less likely to, they're more likely to have low body counts, I guess you can say.
00:41:43.000
And, you know, the stats say that those individuals are more likely to have marriage success.
00:41:49.100
But, uh, you know, I wouldn't say that that is limited necessarily to just Catholic.
00:41:55.460
Um, I think you can look at other religious denominations and, um, you know, as long as
00:42:00.460
those, those habits are being, um, executed, then you're likely to have more, more marriage
00:42:15.440
Okay, so what action would a young woman take that says she's Catholic?
00:42:21.460
What would be an action she would take, a choice she would make?
00:42:25.520
She participates in the sacraments as prescribed by the Catholic Church.
00:42:29.800
Okay, and what other choice, what, what would she avoid?
00:42:35.960
Right, so what percent of women are virgins on their wedding nights?
00:42:45.620
So, based on the actions, women aren't choosing this, right?
00:42:51.760
So, we know that, obviously, women who are, men and women who are virgins that get married,
00:42:57.460
I mean, again, this is, if we're talking about the ideal, then obviously this is the ideal.
00:43:02.800
This is what the church teaches, is that men and women who wait until marriage, I mean,
00:43:07.280
it, from the, what the statistics say, they have the highest rates of marriage success.
00:43:11.640
Now, we live in an imperfect world, and as, and as we, as the stats say, and as we can
00:43:17.760
agree, most people are not virgins when they get married.
00:43:20.580
Right, but who has more choice in terms of a 21-year-old male and a 21-year-old female?
00:43:29.380
Okay, so, if the women aren't waiting until marriage, whose choice is that?
00:43:34.220
If we're not waiting until marriage, whose choice?
00:43:42.240
More women would be choosing to, to not, to wait, right?
00:43:48.880
Because we know one in three, yeah, because we know one in three men under 30 are virgins,
00:43:56.040
And we're not really seeing the same trends when it comes to women.
00:43:59.560
Like, we're seeing the rise in sexless men go up, and we're seeing STD rates in women go up.
00:44:09.920
So, like, how can men force, like, they can't, they can't, they can't put a, like, I'm saying
00:44:16.340
There's a degeneracy that is certainly impacting marriage success in the West.
00:44:20.460
I'm saying, yeah, but I'm, I'm saying it's not like the men can hold a gun to the women's
00:44:33.240
Don't have sex with the, the quarterback on the football team.
00:44:38.680
And then they say, no, we're going to, we're going to not do that.
00:44:42.440
And then it goes back to the praying every day.
00:44:54.340
You know, I think that those, those types of, I mean, that type of evaluation needs to
00:44:59.560
be done though, when you're, when you're discerning the person that you're going to
00:45:03.200
I mean, you know, there are, there are values that you can identify prior to getting married
00:45:08.880
that are going to allow you to see whether or not that, that person is going to be a good
00:45:15.140
Um, and I'm not saying that those, I'm not saying that those things are permanent.
00:45:19.280
I mean, of course there's always the risk that somebody changes.
00:45:23.160
Um, we, we do change over time, but well, I mean, like what you, you asked, I mean, you,
00:45:31.420
I mean, do you, are you practicing your religious faith?
00:45:35.020
What are you, what are your political beliefs and values?
00:45:38.380
Um, you know, I would, we, my wife and I talk about this all the time.
00:45:41.900
It would be very difficult to be married to somebody that didn't agree with us.
00:45:49.820
If I had a wife that, you know, loved Kamala Harris, I think I'd be in trouble right now.
00:45:57.040
When on your wedding day, she's practicing 10 years later, she says, no, I'm okay.
00:46:07.580
So basically you're saying like, if I, if I'm Catholic, I married a Catholic when we get
00:46:14.540
Because the problem is, the problem is with those stats where it says, if you prayed every
00:46:19.440
day and you go to church every day, you can't make somebody do that.
00:46:24.400
So if the woman tomorrow, and that does happen, I have accounts of men that's happened to where
00:46:30.720
She's religious five years in 10 years in 15 years and something changes.
00:46:38.820
I want to, I mean, that's a, that's a good question.
00:46:41.720
And of course that puts the husband and wife in a very difficult situation.
00:46:45.180
And, and it also puts, if they do have kids that puts them in a very difficult situation.
00:46:49.620
And again, we don't, maybe we will get into some of the divorce laws, no fault divorce,
00:46:54.600
which, which I, if a, for example, if a female changes her mind and basically says, I'm, I'm
00:47:03.980
Now there are, there are ways you can go about it within the church to get that marriage annulled.
00:47:10.540
If you run into certain issues like infidelity and, you know, there are other things that
00:47:15.980
So, I mean, there are, there are ways that, you know, you can, there are ways where you
00:47:21.460
can, I guess you can say legally separate even, even within the church.
00:47:26.240
But I'm, I'm saying today, advocating for divorce.
00:47:30.160
But, but when it comes down to it, like that's the situation, like that's, that's a worst
00:47:44.600
It happened in Michael Knowles church in his church from California.
00:47:48.800
I interviewed a guy and he went to his exact church, Latin mass on her wedding day.
00:47:58.100
Five years later, she stole his kid and went to Europe.
00:48:03.840
Interviewed another guy, Christian guy, didn't want to get divorced, doesn't believe in divorce.
00:48:09.180
And on their wedding day, they're practicing Christians.
00:48:13.280
Fast forward five years later, she takes his children and he's actually, she just,
00:48:18.780
one, a court case in Texas where she can legally transition his kids.
00:48:25.520
Both of these men spent $300,000 plus trying to get their kids back.
00:48:30.500
Now, neither of their kids know who they are or really, or have positive images of them.
00:48:38.460
So you're going to be able to find examples within these communities where divorce and where
00:48:44.420
I mean, again, like that's, it's not just because they're just because that there's a
00:48:48.540
traditional Latin mass community that has lower divorce rates compared to the rest of
00:48:53.980
the population does not mean like, again, like when it comes down to the percentages, there
00:48:58.800
are a percentage of those individuals that still do get divorced.
00:49:02.360
So of course, you're going to be able to find examples within those communities.
00:49:05.660
But when it comes down to it, like the, you have to acknowledge that the percentages are
00:49:10.020
significantly lower compared to the rest of the population.
00:49:13.940
Like, and if you take the rest of the secular population, I'm sure it happens significantly
00:49:18.600
more than it does in a conservative Catholic community.
00:49:21.480
Again, you're ignoring what I'm saying though, because the problem with the stats you're talking
00:49:26.180
about is they're only taking the people that are still practicing.
00:49:29.620
And the challenge you get is some people start off practicing together.
00:49:37.700
And so now he's not taken into that statistic because like now they're not praying every
00:49:43.800
day and going to church, even though they started that way.
00:49:48.620
So it's very, it's like conveniently taking the winners.
00:49:51.220
So it's not a good sample size, but if you take the number of divorces and I don't know
00:49:56.200
this off the, I can't remember it off the top of my head, but Catholic, it's similar.
00:50:00.460
It's because the problem is they have to convince men to get married.
00:50:06.220
And the reason they have to is because, um, men, if they don't keep convincing men to sign
00:50:12.400
up, the government doesn't know what they're going to do with all of these single women.
00:50:16.140
So that's why they're pushing it because they don't want to see homeless single women.
00:50:22.720
They want men to keep paying alimony, keep paying child support because, um, part of child
00:50:29.980
I'm kind of butchering it, but that's the reason why.
00:50:33.500
So a lot of times with these places that are like pushing marriage, it's, they're just
00:50:41.900
I mean, again, it's not without its problems, especially in the society that we live in,
00:50:45.880
but I would ask you this Pearl, like, do you agree that, do you agree that marriage
00:51:05.500
But in today's, but today's, but today's, but today's society, they're paid to leave.
00:51:12.740
So you can't have a traditional marriage when women are paid to leave.
00:51:16.200
Like you can't because women will always have the upper hand.
00:51:22.900
I've, I've heard you mentioned that you're not traditional.
00:51:27.940
I guess we can say if we're talking about definitions.
00:51:40.520
Like is a part of your life plan to get married?
00:51:42.960
Um, I would never get married with the suing that because I would never want to put a guy
00:51:49.920
in that position after the things I've learned.
00:51:53.340
And I don't, and when, I mean, I mean, since we're going, since we're going personal, when
00:52:02.320
My wife and I were 24 when we both got married.
00:52:18.680
And we've got, we've got five kids, but my wife and I, we met in high school and, um,
00:52:30.160
So the thing is when women tend to divorce when the youngest kid hits five.
00:52:34.160
So I wouldn't even say you're necessarily in the clear yet.
00:52:39.140
Cause you guys always talk very confidently as if you've won and we don't know because
00:52:43.980
it, I don't know what your wife is going to be like in 10 years.
00:52:48.180
But Pearl, that's the case with anything in life.
00:52:50.320
Like you have a, you have a successful media career and you have a great YouTube channel
00:52:55.680
five years from now, it could be nothing right.
00:52:57.840
You, you could, you, again, like there's, of course there's risk going into the future.
00:53:05.140
But, but I don't understand how you guys so confidently push it as if it's the right
00:53:17.900
I mean, each of us have our own individual vocation.
00:53:20.380
I mean, when it comes down to it, for me, again, I can only speak from my own experience.
00:53:25.160
Um, you know, I've not to get too, too, too deep into my background, but again, I was,
00:53:36.280
Um, you know, we've, we've been together, um, since, since we were 15, other than some
00:53:45.760
And, you know, I'm sure you'll, I'm sure you'll start to question that a little bit,
00:53:49.200
but, um, you know, for the most part, we were together for the entire time.
00:53:52.900
Um, and when it comes down to it for me, like I was an entrepreneur.
00:53:57.320
I started my first business right after I got done with school and I wasn't necessarily
00:54:03.600
put together financially, physically, you know, as a, as a leader or even spiritually,
00:54:11.920
um, when my wife and I first got married, like that's, you know, we've both matured and we've
00:54:18.820
But what I can say is that something legitimately changed in me once when I got married.
00:54:25.860
But then when we started having kids, it's almost like something in me switched to become
00:54:33.200
like a man and a leader and to get out into the marketplace and produce and build something
00:54:42.740
Like that aspect of accountability is something that, you know, has kind of powered me.
00:54:58.360
So like, if she, like if she left, if she left tomorrow, you wouldn't still have that.
00:55:04.840
Well, I mean, I'm sure there's, there's certainly something that's ingrained, but when it's about
00:55:08.380
more than myself and when it's for my family, when it's for other people, I mean, I think
00:55:14.920
I think when you're doing something for other people, it enhances what you do.
00:55:19.420
Now, do I think that I could have a successful business, um, you know, in a, in a media,
00:55:29.280
I mean, I'm sure that I could, I understand how to be competent, but at the same time,
00:55:32.940
it's like, but when there's some, when there's, when there's other people that I can do it
00:55:40.180
And I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing, but that's desirable
00:55:45.380
for a man to pursue, even though there are risks involved with, with doing it.
00:55:51.760
I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't think you're in the clear yet because
00:55:57.320
again, most men get divorced when the youngest kid hits preschool.
00:56:01.340
So we can't even know if you have a good outcome yet.
00:56:06.700
So we really, we'll get back together and we'll figure out where I'm at as far as my
00:56:12.920
And if you're right, well, great, great divorce is the greatest increase too.
00:56:24.500
That's like the big, one of the biggest increases right now is gray divorce.
00:56:33.080
I mean, we're never, so the other, I think that it's important to say though, you're never
00:56:39.880
And that's why, just like I'm never in the clear for my business, always being successful.
00:56:44.760
I would just like, you're never in the clear with, I wouldn't, I wouldn't equate it daily
00:56:48.640
activity, daily inputs that you have to execute in order to maintain something.
00:56:53.280
Like, of course, if I take my hands completely off the wheel and I, you know, and I just
00:56:59.380
like screw all my responsibilities, of course, my marriage could fail.
00:57:04.640
Like, I agree with that, but this is a daily pursuit and I have daily responsibilities that
00:57:13.180
But you can't, you can't control, even if you do her risk, you do your responsibilities.
00:57:23.300
Like what was, the only reason I'm bringing it up is because people use their relationship
00:57:29.780
If you don't bring it up, I don't ask, but if you're going to use your relationship as
00:57:34.180
an example of what we should be, then it's like, I have questions, right?
00:57:40.720
I mean, so I would say that, um, the influence of older people telling us that we, that we needed
00:57:48.420
to break up in order because just being with one person for your entire life.
00:57:53.220
And this is actually funny because we grew up in religious households, you know, going
00:57:57.940
to church every Sunday, but we were actually given advice that, you know, you needed to
00:58:06.100
Now, that being said, I will say that my wife and I waited until marriage.
00:58:13.940
Well, cause my, what I would think is if somebody influenced you guys back then, we don't know
00:58:25.160
Like if it happened before it's possible, it could happen again.
00:58:28.840
I mean, there are unknowns when it comes, when it comes down to it, like that's, that's
00:58:40.640
But the challenge is I've just seen this film before.
00:58:45.040
So I've seen people that like, I'll give you an example.
00:58:48.900
He went around for years saying how great his marriage was.
00:58:51.960
A lot of the same talking points you're saying he said like five years ago.
00:59:01.620
Um, so, and all of that was going on behind the scenes.
00:59:06.100
So I have no idea what's going on behind the scenes with you guys.
00:59:14.900
And so I just wonder how people can so confidently like push something when there's no guarantee
00:59:25.100
And the other thing is too, when I'm showing you these risks of these guys, like getting
00:59:30.040
their kids stolen, um, getting their kid transitioned, all of these, you know, being like if a guy
00:59:36.040
is between 50 and a hundred thousand dollars a year, they take more than 50% of his income
00:59:43.100
That's like, there are absolutely men that are in worse places today.
00:59:46.960
And some even suicidal because they got married.
00:59:49.820
So do you think that if you push a guy to do it and he ends up in that position that
01:00:04.400
I mean, I would say like, I mean, so if a, if a guy gets married, if, if a man and woman
01:00:10.000
get married and maybe you're talking about, I mean, obviously these are real, these, these
01:00:15.780
But again, these are, these are worst case scenario type of situations.
01:00:21.200
They're not impossible, but they are worst case scenario type of situations.
01:00:25.780
Of course I, there's the risk that I could go to sleep tonight and my wife takes a knife
01:00:33.480
Like that's possible because that's happened before, but you know, we have to make, you know,
01:00:39.780
you make prudent decisions as you go through life.
01:00:41.960
And when it comes down to it, like if you do want to pursue as a man getting married,
01:00:48.200
having a wife that you can provide for and who respects you and loves you very rewarding
01:00:54.240
thing to have in this life and children, which again, provides a lot of meaning and stability
01:01:01.360
for a man, also for a family, for the wife and for the kids and also for society at large.
01:01:08.500
It's, you know, it's, there are, and you know, all the talking points there, there, the,
01:01:13.100
the importance of the nuclear family unit, heterosexual man and woman remain married in
01:01:22.840
I mean, I would even go a little further and say the patriarchal structure of a marriage
01:01:28.780
with the man actually providing for the, providing for the family and the, the wife, um, in the
01:01:38.500
I mean, of course, if there's no kids involved, then there's more flexibility there, but that
01:01:48.000
I mean, that model is ideal for the individual and for society, but it also provides a tremendous
01:01:52.820
amount of meaning for the individual people that are involved in it.
01:01:57.160
And it also protects children and allows them to grow up in an environment where they're
01:02:03.960
stronger individuals so that when they do encounter all of these things that are tempting
01:02:09.600
them, causing them to sin or trying to, you know, pull them into degeneracy, they're in
01:02:14.000
a spot where they can, they have a firm foundation that they can navigate through the world with,
01:02:20.920
and it allows them to, it gives them a better chance.
01:02:24.220
And when I say gives them a better chance, of course, there's no guarantee.
01:02:26.800
Like I'm doing all of this and well, it gives, but it gives you, my kids may be at risk for
01:02:35.900
Like I, I acknowledge that, but again, like I'm, I can only do my best and I can only strive
01:02:45.820
So I think the challenges, the challenges, but the challenges, it gives you a worse chance
01:02:51.700
if you're the one, um, providing in terms of divorce court.
01:02:56.080
So you're punished if you pro like, if you do the patriarchal thing and pay all the bills,
01:03:01.060
you're actually punished for it in court and your child support payment.
01:03:04.280
Like I just interviewed, um, a guy in, I think it was Idaho and he supported his wife, had five
01:03:12.620
Um, and she divorced him and he now has to delay his retirement by 12 years.
01:03:30.880
This isn't, um, so I actually wanted to see, are you interested in learning more about this
01:03:36.040
or is this more like to preach is that I I'm just wondering because the next guest I have
01:03:43.020
coming on, he like works with a lot of these guys and I think it'd be interesting for you
01:03:52.060
I mean, you know, I, I came on your show not to necessarily, you know, butt heads with you,
01:03:55.960
but, uh, I mean, again, I, I said to you that there are aspects of your message that
01:04:02.780
Um, and you know, but there are certainly aspects of it that I, that I do.
01:04:06.920
And, um, I'd be interested in learning more from, from that individual.
01:04:11.280
But again, like, I want to go back to, you know, I want to go back to that question that
01:04:15.140
I asked you, that I asked you about you getting married, because that kind of puts your money
01:04:19.680
where your mouth is with regard to all of this.
01:04:21.340
And your answer was, well, I would never get married in the state.
01:04:23.860
And I think that's interesting because like, I don't give a crap what the state has to say
01:04:30.540
Um, so, you know, I, I understand that the, I mean, I understand what the laws are.
01:04:37.560
I'm for laws that incentivize, that incentivize families that disincentivize divorce, but you
01:04:44.680
stated that you would put, so what that alludes to is that you would, you would potentially
01:04:49.280
get married, but the state wouldn't be involved, which fine.
01:04:52.900
So does that mean that, I mean, again, I don't know your, I don't know what you're practicing
01:04:56.760
as far as your religion goes, but like married in the church, like, cause I consider that
01:05:01.940
like the marriage as a sacrament to be significantly more binding than what the state has to say
01:05:21.200
So if he wants to get married in the church, we can, I'll do what he wants.
01:05:35.220
Um, so I have, so you talk a lot about like red pill guys.
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Um, so this is Terrence pop in the corner and Terrence works with, um, men that have
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like committed, like he, he saves men from committing suicide because they were married.
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Um, and then down on the bottom, we have Nick, Nick is a former pastor who also went through
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I'm just trying to understand kind of the context of who I'm talking to here.
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I hear what you're saying about the whole, uh, Christianity choose the perfect woman,
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But, uh, unfortunately the world we live in marriage is managed by the state, not by the
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So it doesn't really matter what you have to say.
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Zach, um, the reality on the ground is simply this 80% of divorces.
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85% of the time, no matter what the mother is going to get custody of those children.
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A lion's share of all alimony and child support is paid by men.
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If men don't pay such a child support and it gets over a certain dollar amount, you can
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get charged with a felony and put in big boy pound you in the ass jail.
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Even if you do pay your child support, you still have to work either a second job or overtime just
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to make those financial obligations, which means you don't have really that kind of time to spend
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So you're watching them grow up and fast forward, which I'm telling you through experience is
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literally every time I dropped my kids off to their mothers, it was like processing a death.
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And I, I have been dealing with the, uh, aftermath of these individuals.
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Like you're up there, you're in church, you're doing your own thing.
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I'm at the bottom of the pyramid, catching these broken dudes and doing the best I can to slap
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them back together and get them back out into the fight using logic, reason, and comedy.
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Uh, my denomination is Catholic light, uh, which is Episcopalian.
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It's virtually the same thing other than the fact that my grandfather had a wife and he wasn't
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a priest, but, uh, I have, and it, it happens in, uh, in the Western world and all denominations,
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all religions, Buddhists, Muslims, uh, you know, Jewish of all different sex.
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Women are rewarded for breaking the marriage contract hand over fist.
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And, uh, you know, I wish, I wish we lived in a different world where people could get married
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Well, there are studies out there that once a woman goes over five sexual partners, her
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chances of staying in a long-term committed relationship drop into the 20 percentile.
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It is just an ugly situation all the way around.
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And I'm not denying that there aren't, that there aren't risks when it comes to marriage.
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And I also am not naive to the fact that there are individuals that have certainly suffered
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And, you know, and I, and I acknowledge that there are laws in place that significantly
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Um, and I think reform is needed in that regard, but I mean, again, what it comes down to is
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this, and this is the question that I would pose to you guys.
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Like what then is the solution from a societal and individual standpoint?
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So I understand that you help these men that have been divorced.
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What, so what then is your advice to young men who are trying to build themselves, build
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And why would you, and, and I, again, I understand the risks, but when it comes to, this is being,
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getting married is a, is a biological, it's rooted within our biology, right?
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Like this is like, we are, we are creatures that cohabitate with another, with a, with, with
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And this, this allows us to raise children in a stable environment, which,
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contributes to building successful, stable societies.
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So my question would be to you guys, then what is your solution?
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I think my solution is there's something called, I think Stephen Baskerville was on a week or
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No, you are in a modern marriage, whether you like it or not, the state will ruin your
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If they come after you, you're asking men to play Russian roulette with their posterity.
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I was an Orthodox Presbyterian pastor and I got totally wrecked and zeroed out.
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But traditional marriage does not currently exist in the United States because the state
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You're talking about the, where men are hardwired to get married and reproduce.
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But you also have to take into account just how far the modern women has fallen in value
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They're not pursuing women, you know, in large quantities.
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We've got nightclubs, bars going out of business.
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Uh, we have the, uh, wedding industry has gone bankrupt to what, two or three times now.
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So, you know, I have an end to that entire world.
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Now, men build, maintain, and protect the civilization.
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And what we have going on here is our civilization has broken the contract between men and women.
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So, men no longer have an incentive to participate.
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And I encourage every one of the men I talk to, to ask a simple question.
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And if that question is not answered, do not participate.
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Because we have a civilization where millions of, I would say billions of people before us going back,
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you know, a millennia, where men have sacrificed their health, their well-being, their very lives,
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and I would even dare say they're immortal souls for the vicious shit you've got to do in war.
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And they went into this willingly knowing that there's a contract like,
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hey, I can have the wife, the kid, you know, the white picket fence, what have you.
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We are going to see, in some form or fashion, a collapse of the Western world.
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And it's going to turn, historically, when you look at that, it's going to be incredibly vicious, bloody, vile.
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But if, you know, I'm a realist, and I look at the examples of history, and that is exactly where we're going.
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And I'm an optimist, and that's why I am currently out here fighting for traditional marriages,
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which will prevent us from collapsing as a society and as a civilization.
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So, it's a hill that I'm willing to die on because, again, like, because I think it's the most important thing.
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And you guys, you know, if you were listening before, you heard me say that I understand that there are risks.
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To get something that's most meaningful, most willing to die for, something that you will cherish in your life,
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of course it's going to come with the most amount of risk.
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Like, I mean, you know, I used the business example before when I was criticizing Pearl about marriage,
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but, you know, we start businesses, and, you know, I started in the real estate industry.
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Yeah, but you're not enslaved to your business for 18 years, though.
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Like, my parents had a business, and if it failed, like, they failed.
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You can certainly get into severe financial debt from business decisions.
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People commit suicide because their business fails.
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Like, all of those are examples, but that would never be a reason to not pursue it.
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I would say that it would certainly be a reason to not pursue it if your business partner was incentivized to rip you off.
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That would be the equivalent of going into business when your partner is paid to rip you off.
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Yeah, and also, like, our entire civilization, the laws and the traditions are skewed to favor the woman in virtually every respect.
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For instance, you're living with a woman, she dials 911, makes a claim, you did some crazy stuff, you're going to jail.
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And it's going to cost you between $5,000 and $20,000 to get out of that, depending upon if you take a plea or fight it in court.
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And we've seen the Me Too, where people's careers have been absolutely destroyed by women who made accusations that are decades old.
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I myself, in the military, if I did not have a nanny cam in my office recording a specific interaction I had with a female officer,
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I would have been kicked out of the military and probably living in the street now.
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But there's a big difference between a business risk and a marriage risk.
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You can lose your business and do a bankruptcy.
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But in the real, real world where women are, you know, favored by the laws in criminal court, civil court, and divorce court,
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and you can literally wind up in prison under false accusations.
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I've had judges, you know, I've talked to guys who've had judges impose incredibly high child support numbers based on the degree that the individual held,
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So they randomly just picked a number and said this is what he had to pay.
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And he wound up doing, what, 18 months in the Michigan Correctional Facility for felony child support evasion.
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On average, if you lose your job, you get cancer, you get injured, it's going to take you five appearances before the judge,
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before they'll even entertain lowering your child support.
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And that could take anywhere from five months to a year and a half, sometimes two years.
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Anything over that is felony child support evasion.
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So you're trying to get your numbers corrected, but the court took forever to do it or didn't listen to you the first four times.
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And then all of a sudden you're standing in front of the judge.
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You owe more than $5,000 and, you know, he could quite literally just pound the gavel and you're going to prison.
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And that's not even talking about the whole suicide numbers.
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I would estimate from my research and my studies and talking to all these individuals that 60 to 70% of the time,
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the suicides that I've heard about or had to deal with or heard through secondhand had either a divorce or a contact with family court within five years of their suicide date.
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All right, and there's a reason why 65 to 70% of the men out there are homeless.
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A lot of those guys will never get out of the street because they owe a huge amount of child support.
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And in most states, the interest rate on unpaid child support is sitting between 9% and 15%.
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And if these men decide, hey, I want to fix my life and get a job, the first paycheck they get, it's going to be docked almost 85, 90%.
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Turn myself in for child support evasion, you know, in the fall, spend the entire winter in jail, get out in the spring or whenever.
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And they just live in this pool of helplessness, and it is evil beyond compare.
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And I understand you want to save everything, but, you know, sacrificing men in your church to save the civilization is not the answer.
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There's a reason why most of the congregations out there are mostly women, because the minute a man shows up there, they want to pawn off these swamp donkeys, which are these women with multiple kids or multiple divorces on these guys coming in.
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And I'm curious, did you have a, did you, what was, like, your experience?
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I know you ended up getting divorced after you had seven kids.
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Yeah, I had to do DNA tests on the younger three, some of the younger three.
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Yeah, so, yeah, she had been constructing a narrative where I was, you know, quote, unquote, abusive, verbal, emotional, sexual, physical, you name it.
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Even, like, my facial hair apparently was abusive.
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So, yeah, I took her phone, and she tried to beat me, and I ran, ran to the church like I usually did.
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Lost custody of my kids because of my religious beliefs.
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Yeah, so, these religious women, especially if they're traditional, they have all the more incentive to try to screw you over, excuse my language, or F you, or whatever you want to call it, to morally justify their shameful behavior.
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So, they will increase the charges to justify leaving you.
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They can be false charges because they have to, they can't deal with the shame factor of their, of the sisterhood, of the church ladies.
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Versus if you had a woman that wasn't even a Christian, it might not even be as bad.
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So, yeah, I got, I lost custody of my kids, and you see your kids develop, but you have no real say on what's going on in their life.
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You feel the pain when you drop them off that their lives are probably screwed, and that's not a damn thing you can do about it.
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So, basically, Nick, you were issued the wound that never heals.
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So, the reason I brought you on, Terrence, was I was hoping you could go through, because I think there's this idea that you guys aren't, it's not common, right?
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That it's, like, a 1% chance, like, that it won't happen to you, and I just, that's what I was kind of, because you were, like, an expert with the different stats, so I was wondering if you could kind of go through them.
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If you get beyond 24 years, your chances of getting divorced go way down.
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Granted, I probably have to revisit that, because I did not take gray divorces into account, which are growing in number.
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But 80% of the divorces are filed by women, and that even goes up to 90% if you add in college-educated women.
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And furthermore, if a woman is working and she makes close to what you make, your chances of getting divorced go up quite a bit.
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Now, of the 85-15, 85% of the time, these women will get custody of the children no matter what.
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I've seen women get custody of their convicted felons, you know, in drug rehab, working, you know, as sex workers.
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Okay, of the 15% where the man actually gets the custody of those kids, 5% to 7% of the time, the mother didn't show up in court, and he won by default.
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So the true number is somewhere between 93% and 97% of the time, or 95% of the time, the children are going to the mother.
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And if you look at the stats of, you know, the end result of children of fatherless homes, 85% of the felons in court or in prison are there because they came from a single-mother home.
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You know, the rapists overwhelmingly come from single-mother homes.
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Drugs, drug addicts, any of your mental instability, all of those go up through the roof when they come from a single-mother home.
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And while you're going through your divorce, the entire court will look you in the face and say, we're doing this for the best interest of the child.
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And in reality, it's all financially motivated.
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But my question to you guys would be this, because you just explained the detrimental stats of single parenting.
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And Nick, I mean, I'm sorry to hear about your situation.
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But you also just said that you also advocate for traditional marriage.
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So, again, it seems like your guys' vision for men is to enter into traditional marriages.
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You believe that that's the answer, yet at the same time, you're telling men that they shouldn't get married, what, because of the current legal system?
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Because traditional marriage doesn't exist currently in the United States.
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You can have, you know, you can go before the church.
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But the second one person wants to leave, you realize there is no traditional marriage.
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And if you look at the stats for single father homes, the outcomes of the children are very close to the outcomes of a child having both the mother and father present.
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If the court was really about best interest of the child, those kids would be given to the father who statistically makes a lion's share of the income.
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But that doesn't happen because everyone wants to get paid.
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It is corrupt from the top down, bottom up, and every screwed up stage in between.
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And so my question for conservatives is why do they spend so much time on, like, trans issues?
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Why do they spend so much time complaining about the red pill guys, but they don't complain about the marriage laws?
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Because my question is, why is it a one-off video about the marriage laws, but they'll do, like, trans sports forever?
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You know, it's like the one thing that could give us back traditionalism would be changing the marriage laws.
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I guess I'm having trouble understanding why you can't practice a traditional marriage and abide by, for example, what the church teaches and treat marriage as a sacrament and structure marriage as a traditional marriage, despite what the current marriage laws are.
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But even if the laws were totally in favor of traditional marriage, I still couldn't control another person.
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Okay, so if your wife tomorrow said, I want to leave, what leverage do you have to make her not?
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I have no leverage to make anybody do something that I, I have no leverage to control anybody in that regard.
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I mean, no other human being has the ability to do that.
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Well, that's why you don't have a traditional marriage.
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Because if tomorrow she says, I want to leave and steal your children, she can.
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And if she goes to court, there is a 90% chance she gets primary custody, meaning you'll never make another primary decision.
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She gets, you get every other weekend, if you're lucky.
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So you can't have a traditional marriage because she has the leverage.
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So in a, so what, so what you're saying is that in a traditional marriage, the husband has complete control over the, over what the wife can do.
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I'd say in a traditional marriage, they stay together for a life.
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In an Islamic country, for example, where, you know, I mean, divorce would be, I don't know how divorce is punished, but I'm sure severely.
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I would say at the bare minimum, it wouldn't be rewarded.
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I would say at the bare minimum is one person isn't paid to leave.
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And if we're going patriarchal, that would mean the men get the children.
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So you're saying that the traditional model should be invoked into, into law would be what your guys' solution is.
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If I, well, I'm, I'm not saying one way or the other.
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I'm saying in 2024, you can't have a traditional marriage.
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There's, I mean, I would say, get rid of child support, alimony, 50, 50 custody off the bat.
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Stephen Baskerville says, um, I pretty much agree with them.
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Default father custody would fix everything because this by default patriarchal and hence that's what's worked forever.
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There's a reason why when you remove the father crap goes crazy.
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And, and the stats would also, the stats say that if there is a single parent household, that statistically the children would be better off if, if the father was the single parent.
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I, I would be fine with that, but it's, it goes back to, it's not make a wish, right?
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So I can't blame men if in the meantime they choose to walk away.
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I don't think you're more moral because you chose to take the risk or less moral.
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And, uh, Hey, Nick, if you want to send me an email to send it to redonculous 12 gmail.com.
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And I'll be more than happy to, uh, go over some, uh, scenarios with you.
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Redonculous, you said redonculous 12 at gmail.com.
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Also, I don't know if you have any other, if I don't know if you have any other thoughts, but I was going to go back to me and Zach, Nick, unless you have any other thoughts you wanted to add.
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Hey, Nick, I'm up to, uh, I'm up to 553 guys saved from suicide in the past 15 years using logic, reason, and comedy.
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It would be more if I could, uh, get YouTube's, uh, you know, boot off my neck, but it is what it is.
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Um, Zach, do you have any other points you want to make at all?
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And like I said, the invitation's out, out to you as well to, to come on and maybe do something long form on my channel as well.
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I'm waiting for my Nala doesn't know what she's talking about.
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Maybe I'll do a Nala as a confused Christian type of video.
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A confused Christian than, than an only fans model.
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I would rather, I would rather have, I would rather her and her soul.
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Like, seriously, as a person, I don't believe her.
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I would rather have someone that's not a fraud in church.
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I would just, I mean, again, like I appreciate the skepticism.
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And I think, again, that's, that's important for all of us to, to be aware of.
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But when it comes down to it again, I don't think we should necessarily at any time, hope that somebody can't turn their life around.
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I mean, it's, it's, it's just, to me, that would go against everything, everything that I believe in, that I stand for, right?
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Like we want every, we want people to turn their lives around and get their lives on track and, and turn back toward God is, is my argument.
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I mean, that's the argument that I made against you in that Nala video.
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The chance of her being really converted, I would say, yeah, you could win the lottery,
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10 years from now, 20 years from now, will she be quiet in the back of the church?
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If this influencer thing doesn't work out, she'll either be a female pastor or an OnlyFans model.
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And again, I'd rather have a confused Christian than somebody who's doing whatever she's doing
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Do you guys like having the people that make the hit pieces on me?
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So anyways, guys, make sure you like the video on your way out and subscribe.
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You know, if we get more signups on the website, I can do more edgy stuff.
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I really want to bring some people back on, but it would have to be on the website.
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So before we go, I hope you're right, but I'm unsure.
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Yavak says this means they're only removing their sellable value when it's on the decline.
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Chris Watts says that he has two found Christ and he has a daily devotional available.
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At least he stopped killing people before talking about his conversion.
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Demonstrate your commitment for a decade or so.
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I respect this guy for coming a lot on and defending his position.
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If he wants to come back, you can come back on.
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Pearl's critics get more upset about her being community noted than about what Nala did.
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Why smear do Catholic women need to spread to get their annul three times before 40?
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I hope that men and women keep trying to build faithful marriages.
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Her point is that society is skewed to giving women all the power that can't work long term.
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It's the liberal society that created these scenarios for laws.
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It's not a reasonable or financial educational decision without a bulletproof prenup.
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And there's too much cultural pressure for women to divorce for many reasons.
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Unfortunately, he's confusing potential benefits from a non-rigged marriage versus the reality of today.
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Hopefully, people see the BS happening in society.
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What men allowed these laws, rights, and policies to keep happening?
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All the Democrat women that are willing to stand up in front of the world stating the most important voting issue for them was the ability to kill their unborn child.
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Best chance of a lifelong marriage, only the laws of Moses.
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If he divorced, then a letter and send her away.
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No payments, no children if she's caught in alimony.
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Make sure you guys sign up on the website if you can.