JustPearlyThings - July 03, 2023


Watch How Pearl SCHOOLED This DELUSIONAL Woman

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Hannah Pearl Davis
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George Akerlof
Heated Debate Between PRO-LIFE And PRO CHOICE Pearl Gave Her A Reality Check

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In this episode, we discuss sexism in the workplace and the pay gap between men and women. We discuss the difference between male and female lifeguards in the London lifeguard industry, why women are paid less than their male counterparts and what the future might look like in the future.

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00:00:00.000 so jobs out there 100% that are the same job and yet one like a man will be paid
00:00:06.600 more and a woman will be paid less name one name one I worked in one if you want 1.00
00:00:14.640 to know what was the job well I was a lifeguard okay um so um when you when
00:00:19.980 you were applying for the job did you apply for the job like on a job board
00:00:23.520 like indeed or something like that no I had worked as a lifeguard for three
00:00:27.840 years and then I switched working place and then I learned that the person that
00:00:32.460 had less experience than me he was the man he earned about three quid more anyway
00:00:39.180 and did you ask when you see lifeguard that's that's a very nice example
00:00:44.640 because I would think that the point I try to make anyways is when you apply for
00:00:50.700 any job role is there do you see what like if you say you want to become a
00:00:55.380 lifeguard for instance and you see it on indeed do you see lifeguard role women's
00:00:59.940 salary 10 pounds an hour men's salary 15 pounds an hour or do you see lifeguard
00:01:04.320 role 10 pounds an hour and whoever gets hired gets that salary it usually says
00:01:08.940 from depending on experience or something like that well okay then then that would
00:01:13.680 come to negotiation power that has nothing to do with sexism well my other 0.97
00:01:17.100 question is why don't we talk about women models get paid more than male models 1.00
00:01:20.760 where is everyone where is the marches where the inequality right the demand causes the cost so
00:01:26.940 the reason why that women and it works the other way around too so the reason why 1.00
00:01:30.420 women don't tend to be in male dominated industries as much it's just because 1.00
00:01:34.320 it's unpleasant it's same for the reason why men don't women women don't want to do 1.00
00:01:38.700 hard jobs no okay do you think a veterinarian is a hard job double the amount of female veterinarians 1.00
00:01:45.180 i mean you can find some niche like you can find some niche fringe thing but it's like wait but but
00:01:52.620 the number one employers of women is it's teachers and nurses yes because that's how it's always been 1.00
00:01:58.080 and you're right correct my point is the hardest jobs the ones that have the most workplace deaths
00:02:05.040 men do them so it makes sense that they're paid you're defining hard by simply are you
00:02:11.000 more likely to die which is a rather daft way to define hard you know i base that on intellect
00:02:17.480 i mean you don't think a job is harder to do if you might die doing it to be fair you can die if 0.77
00:02:25.020 you work in a hospital to be fair you might catch something i mean you can but it's not as likely
00:02:29.420 as i as some of the jobs that men do
00:02:32.520 they're pretty unpredictable what percent let's go into vets what percent of um vets are women 1.00
00:02:37.820 double okay what percent 60 okay so it's 60 percent it's so it's still close to 50
00:02:44.200 no it's no it's over 60 percent i said double so it's like a third it's like two thirds to a third
00:02:51.420 i just was expecting like because in the industries i mentioned it's like 95 percent men
00:02:56.160 it's not close to 50 50 you don't think that two thirds of veterinarians i don't i don't think
00:03:01.940 that's the same as 95 i think men have been working for a lot longer than women i mean so
00:03:06.620 i think women are still trying to come into their fields you know there's some women that are still 1.00
00:03:10.900 reliant on men some women are still reliant on their parents even you know there's women that are in 1.00
00:03:14.960 their 20s and they're still reliant on i think that's just an excuse if you're born today you have
00:03:19.100 no barriers there are absolutely that's fine but in regards to like trying to move up and trying to get
00:03:24.140 further in your career not just get into a career entry level it can be difficult quotas they
00:03:29.160 literally pay companies to hire women but do you realize the older generations haven't died yet so 0.98
00:03:34.280 you're going to need to give it a couple generations before we can actually judge anything so there's
00:03:38.040 going to be more older people that do those jobs that's just such a cop-out the older generation wants 0.99
00:03:44.060 to make money if you're telling me you tell a 55 year old dude you get money to hire women you don't
00:03:50.460 think he's going to hire more women no that that's not what i mean i mean until the older generation
00:03:55.040 have died where there is still inequality because obviously if you're going past 60 years old
00:03:59.540 all those women that are that old still have the same mindset that they had because they didn't 1.00
00:04:04.200 have those options from what from what era like how old are you talking like my like my mom's
00:04:08.900 the equal pay gap the equal pay act was it was in 1964 i'm talking about opportunities from going
00:04:15.680 to university so 1963 was the equal it's been illegal it is illegal to pay women less than men
00:04:22.200 this young lady's already given an example that she's been underpaid so this was before this was
00:04:27.580 after the 60s lifeguard job it's still a job and it's still an example that's valid
00:04:32.100 can i ask other examples can i ask it's access to education and i have examples and i have examples
00:04:38.600 where i've paid more like than a guy could i could i just ask what did you say you're a doctor right
00:04:44.460 yeah what is your stance on this and especially in the hospital like because obviously we're talking
00:04:52.300 about nurses and etc so i just wanted to know what you it's it's difficult i mean you know clearly the
00:04:59.080 majority of doctors at the moment are male that's mainly because of the older generations the majority
00:05:03.160 of medical students and young doctors are female sort of switched around and that part of that's 1.00
00:05:08.280 part of the reason this is so complicated is because we're often measuring people of different
00:05:11.820 generations so i honestly don't know i think probably from anecdotes from my own experience from my
00:05:18.660 reading of the data that there are ways that women get screwed over in the job market than men the men
00:05:23.460 don't there'll be some the other way around i don't know who is worse off overall and i it's almost a red
00:05:28.740 herring because the question was does this mean that men can't have an opinion on abortion
00:05:32.280 what do you think of that do you think so so i think you know there's so many things to say about
00:05:40.100 this one was i used to be a fetus which i think is important one is i might have my own kids one day
00:05:45.580 you know this fetus some of the fetuses might be mine hopefully not that many because i only have one
00:05:49.980 wife who's next to me um what i really think is you know when we think about justice and when we think
00:05:55.980 about having a community that works together and a society that functions we have to have men and
00:06:00.420 women talking to each other giving their best to each other and working in harmony right so 1.00
00:06:06.460 take an example emma watson's campaign he for she that was basically saying for women's equality
00:06:12.300 we cannot just do this with women alone men have to use whatever platform they might have
00:06:17.560 we can debate whether they have it whatever privilege they might have men have to use it to fight
00:06:22.440 for equality now the way i think that links to abortion is firstly that i think the pro-life view
00:06:28.600 is about equality for the child as well saying the child has an equal right to life so everyone has a
00:06:33.560 duty to fight for that but at the same time what what really gets me about this is think about
00:06:38.840 before abortion was legalized if a man gets a woman pregnant the likelihood is they get married 0.94
00:06:45.480 suddenly some of those marriages don't work out i admit but many of them do the man provides for the
00:06:50.440 child the man provides for the woman and the man has that sense of responsibility now what happens
00:06:55.080 when abortion is legal the man can suddenly have sex with whoever he wants and when she gets pregnant 0.99
00:07:01.160 he says it's your body it's your choice and therefore it's your responsibility and your burden
00:07:07.160 and so what is meant to be a burden shared by a father and the mother equally has become something
00:07:12.840 that is just on the mother now because the man says this is a woman's issue this is your body this is 1.00
00:07:17.080 your choice so all of those women who think okay now i'm pregnant some of them will have an abortion 0.99
00:07:22.040 okay many of them don't want to have an abortion even if it's not planned even if it's not wanted 0.98
00:07:26.520 many of the women don't want to have an abortion because they disagree with it because they don't want 1.00
00:07:29.640 to go through the trauma of it whatever reason and now they're faced with a man who says it's your
00:07:35.160 body it's your choice this is your issue i'm having nothing to do with it that is why i think
00:07:40.360 portraying it as a woman's only issue is harmful to women themselves because this was a job 1.00
00:07:45.400 that is for a man and a woman to do together in partnership and why wouldn't you want the like
00:07:53.160 joint like to be strong together and get through things together even if you don't want to be with
00:07:58.920 that man that man is still the reason you are in this situation exactly you have done it together
00:08:06.280 it's not his fault it's not your fault it's together both of you have made that decision
00:08:13.560 both of you you should be together through the decision and i think if if a guy goes i don't
00:08:21.640 want anything to do with it then it's a different situation but why wouldn't you want to even just
00:08:28.520 have that kind of extra bit of strength that you need to get through this so can i pull up on that so
00:08:36.040 so one of the kind of arguments for abortion originally was it's going to get rid of single motherhood 0.99
00:08:40.920 because we have all these women who you know get pregnant the man has abandoned them they can just 0.99
00:08:44.680 have an abortion now but what actually happened is that when abortion was legalized single motherhood
00:08:49.160 skyrocketed because of this dynamic because men still got women pregnant they got more women pregnant
00:08:54.760 and then they just pissed off and so what you actually saw was so many more women get into 0.90
00:09:00.360 single motherhood which has economic costs it has relational costs it has costs of your time your
00:09:05.720 resources any costs you can imagine we know how difficult parenthood is or many of us do i
00:09:10.920 don't know exactly because i'm not one yet um but parenthood is difficult and what happened when
00:09:15.800 abortion was legalized was that all the cost of parenthood went on to mothers because the man said
00:09:20.360 this is your issue and so i think abortion actually has made things worse and there's good evidence for
00:09:25.320 this you know the the poverty in the united states was going to be eliminated before 1970 it was on a
00:09:30.920 downward trend for decades and decades they were going to stop poverty in america a noble prize
00:09:35.560 winning economist george ackerloff wrote a paper in an economic journal and he said since 1970 when
00:09:40.920 abortion was legalized and he's pro-choice he said since that time the feminization of poverty has begun
00:09:47.720 more women have gone into poverty more ethnic minorities have gone into poverty more children have
00:09:51.960 gone into poverty because of this dynamic and so you know we can say that abortion is liberating for 1.00
00:09:57.960 women that it allows women to pursue their careers and have more money the reality is it's the poorest
00:10:02.200 women who have suffered from this because they have been the ones who have had to shoulder the burden 1.00
00:10:06.440 of the absent men and that was caused by abortion if you know according to the statistic
00:10:11.960 and and you know you made some really good points and i think you sound like a really good guy
00:10:17.240 you know and that's probably why you have you know this opinion but you know not every not every guy is
00:10:22.600 like you yeah not every guy has that um some guys will say yeah let's do this let's do this i'll be
00:10:30.360 with you and then two three years down the line they're gone there's been terrible men and terrible
00:10:36.840 mothers since the dawn of time like men have abandoned women since the year dots this isn't a new thing 0.97