JustPearlyThings - November 04, 2023


What Every Woman That Did ABORTION Goes Through This


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33 minutes

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192.46118

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6,527

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4

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27

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00:00:00.000 do you know what i mean and like i don't know how to explain this to you but she really hates life
00:00:05.920 you know there's only a few things in life that make her happy maybe music seeing her family
00:00:11.360 food but then most of the time she's just suffering because she can see the world
00:00:15.840 and she can see what she doesn't have and then again like this can be avoided at the very early
00:00:24.560 stages and uh now like obviously i'm happy to have her in my life and i love her that's my cousin
00:00:31.600 but you know i can see her suffering yeah and the family as well well i just think doctors can be
00:00:36.480 wrong and that's like where i would have a hard time like if they say they'll have this disease
00:00:41.120 and they might not yeah yeah so many so many situations where that's happened the rain man
00:00:46.480 uh where where they yeah doctors have diagnosed something in the womb and the mothers have
00:00:50.880 refused or they said the baby's going to live this long and the mothers have refused abortion
00:00:55.360 and their children are healthy and fine you know there's doctors get it wrong so what would you
00:01:01.120 guys do then if you're in that situation so i think paul gave me an answer what would you do if your
00:01:04.880 daughter or son was born and then you have to make a decision whether they should live or not
00:01:08.880 the same thing i could never i could never kill my child um i just i would hope and pray that
00:01:16.240 my child got better i feel like oh sorry no no no go ahead are you finished no i was going to say
00:01:22.640 i feel like happiness is also inside a lot of people get it confused where they're watching the
00:01:27.040 outside too much and they're requiring all this temporary happiness like oh when i get money i'll
00:01:32.240 be happy or when this or when i do this but actually it's just inside if we search for happiness
00:01:37.200 inside we we will be happy but a lot of people compare themselves to other people's lives and things
00:01:42.720 like that but i do like i would never understand someone who's obviously disabled or severely
00:01:48.960 unwell you know it's quite difficult but again we don't know what the afterlife is no one knows but
00:01:54.320 if they're alive here today maybe there'll be another sort of life for them no one actually knows
00:01:59.520 because none of us has died so you know but but we just don't know it's a good point yeah yeah i was
00:02:05.680 just going to say i've got two things i just want to go back to what cas said earlier on about
00:02:10.240 having the right support um in place um because you work in mental health as you mentioned i did
00:02:16.480 yeah oh you did before okay um and i think it's similar with the abortion issue and um for a woman
00:02:23.440 that finds out that she's pregnant um i think a lot of it is based on being properly informed about
00:02:29.920 the process you're going through um so that you can come to a um informed decision i feel like um
00:02:37.680 from my experience um having an abortion when i was 19 i wasn't properly informed like abortion is
00:02:45.600 something that is classified as a medical procedure and with most medical procedures that you do have
00:02:53.120 and i've had a few um in my lifetime um nothing severe but you are informed about what the procedure is
00:03:01.760 going to be you are informed about um you've shown images of what you're going to have done
00:03:08.480 um and i feel like abortion is sidelined oh yeah it's not you don't you're not properly informed
00:03:13.840 no so for me my experience i came out the other side and there was a lot of mental trauma um and there
00:03:21.360 was a lot of healing there was a lot of healing process and the support i think is very important
00:03:26.480 um if you do decide to have an abortion um as it was in my case and i didn't feel like i had that at
00:03:32.240 that time um and just to go back to what ruby was saying um about your your family situation there's a
00:03:38.720 guy i can't remember his name and he's literally he was born without no limbs like he has no arms no
00:03:44.640 legs and he was actually well and he's on youtube is a big youtuber and i mean his life is phenomenal and
00:03:50.240 it's going back again where where what does happiness look like how do we define happiness he's
00:03:56.960 in this world and he's impacting this world and like leaps and bounds and he was born that way he
00:04:03.440 did mention that when he was i think it was 10 or 12 that he wanted to commit suicide can't remember
00:04:09.040 what he stated what got him over that hurdle but he's still here today and he's living a he's living
00:04:14.160 a fulfilled life do you know what i mean so i think it's it's about having the right support
00:04:20.080 it's about being well informed um and um yeah i just feel that there is other options do you know
00:04:26.960 what i mean having the right mentality yeah it's it's key to life definitely definitely um but yeah
00:04:32.800 i i must go back on that as well what you just said um i've had an abortion myself and again they
00:04:38.720 they don't really inform me of the procedure they will say okay yeah you get a pill and then or you
00:04:43.520 get the vacuum and then that's it but actually when when i did get the pill and they said it's all
00:04:48.960 gonna come out don't worry you know and it will come out and it was a little baby you know and it's
00:04:54.000 like whoa i wasn't ready for that you know and it was just it was shocking you got you got the pill
00:04:59.840 i got the the pill yeah so and so how does that i i know um once it's surgical they like pull off the
00:05:07.920 limbs and then vacuum yeah but i don't i don't actually know as much about the pill so so the pill so
00:05:13.680 you get like a couple of them right um and the like first it wasn't even like i felt something was
00:05:20.160 stuck so i had to go go back there and they had to like take out with um what's it called them
00:05:26.880 forceps yeah yeah that was my first um abortion and i had a second one and um it was it was a pill
00:05:34.080 and you know and um i decided to go ahead and it was the worst experience ever because they they did not
00:05:40.320 inform me that a whole child would come out of there you know and i would think it would be in
00:05:46.160 part so i wouldn't see it you know and it was a full little child it was the size of my palm but it was
00:05:53.680 such a horrible experience you know and i've seen it i i seen it and and that mental picture again you
00:05:58.640 have to train your mind to forget that you can't you know when people go through abortions and they have
00:06:04.080 ptsd from it i say like the best thing you can do is to there's ways to forget about it ways to never
00:06:09.200 think about it again ways to sort of you know erase that from your memory but but they don't tell you
00:06:15.040 anything like that they they never did and i always tell the women you know that go for abortion
00:06:20.720 i'm just just just telling you this is what it is you know and then i oh really you know and then
00:06:24.720 they come back like i regret it so much you know but yeah they they should be more informative 100
00:06:29.520 how far along were you i i was like four weeks you're only four no sorry no the uh this um escape the
00:06:36.800 when that when the baby came out yeah oh that one was about six or eight weeks something really
00:06:44.080 so it was six or eight weeks yeah and because they they say it's like a feed like a clump of cells
00:06:48.800 basically no it was a full baby and it was like the side they had it had arms it had legs it had a
00:06:53.920 head and it was intact so it wasn't like six wow and it wasn't like it was parts of it it was literally
00:07:00.960 all of it and and so um because i what i understand about the pill and you guys you two know more than
00:07:07.040 i do about this but it's like basically it starves the kid to death right and then it did like well
00:07:14.080 did it happen at the hospital or were you at home uh no so this happened at the hospital yeah so you
00:07:19.200 you take one at home and then like you said i didn't know it would starve the child right so but yeah
00:07:24.160 you take one at home then you come i think it's the next day or in two days and then you have another
00:07:28.560 pill and it's meant to come out of you and whatnot well and it is does it always come out at the
00:07:33.040 hospital if you do the pills i think some people have done it at home and it they just it goes down
00:07:38.000 the toilet you know okay that's what they say so since the pandemic um basically they allowed they
00:07:45.680 changed the law to allow these abortion pills to be sent by post to people's homes which causes all
00:07:50.320 sorts of issues because many women don't know how far along they are so you're only meant to have the
00:07:55.280 pills up to about 10 weeks and um you know there's been stories of people having it uh 12 13 14 15
00:08:03.200 weeks and ended up in hospital and hemorrhaging and things like that and so yeah just being sent
00:08:08.880 and they yeah they're literally saying the instructions to flush the baby or the products of conception
00:08:14.720 down the toilet so yeah i'm sorry you had to see that that must have been no it's all right like you have to
00:08:20.640 sort of over that i did not know wow yeah um do you want to show the video i actually have not seen
00:08:26.560 this video i don't know what it is what do you think about abortion each individual it's up to them
00:08:35.600 what they want to do i think everybody should be allowed to write i'm not really for it or against it
00:08:40.480 everyone has their right to kind of do what they call is right in their own life so what i want to show
00:08:45.920 you now is a short one minute video of what an abortion procedure looks like at various stages from
00:08:50.480 10 to 24 weeks oh sorry i don't think i can do it yeah i'm sorry i can't look at it sorry
00:09:15.920 so that's the video that was those babies were fully formed they were saying like it was
00:09:28.400 they had hands i didn't know it was like that that's a body that's just that's
00:09:35.200 it's fully developed that shouldn't that really shouldn't be right that's technically even though
00:09:42.960 the baby may not be out that's technically i'll relate that to murder i don't i don't think
00:09:48.800 there's been cutting up babies like that no i'm a bit speechless actually it is a person and people
00:09:59.120 don't realize that a lot people think oh it's just a bunch of cells and that to the point but you know
00:10:05.040 three months and on you can really see the formation and everything so yeah
00:10:15.920 so um is abortion like footage suppressed on google or something because i tried to do a show um
00:10:26.160 like i haven't done abortion in a while but i did this in the summer i think
00:10:30.880 and i like could not find a lot of images on it like at all yeah um well it's something yeah it's
00:10:38.640 definitely suppressed somewhat they'll probably on social media they'll probably blur it out
00:10:43.760 or because i mean in youtube we had an abortion video up and they took it down on youtube but then
00:10:50.800 we kind of said well you know you say it's a medical procedure so why can't we have medical procedures
00:10:55.440 on youtube so they reinstated it but covered it or it was only a few subscribed and over 18.
00:11:01.920 so yeah it's definitely suppressed definitely suppressed but you can see you know when people
00:11:06.800 see it they really do change their minds and you know people can go to abortionreality.com
00:11:12.560 and see abortion for themselves when you say we roof sorry i know we've never met before who do you
00:11:18.800 represent or work for what is your oh i work for an organization called cbr uk so the center for
00:11:25.120 bioethical reform uk so we're a human rights organization and does that represent like all
00:11:29.840 humans of course i've never heard yeah we stand up for we educate on the humanity of the unborn child
00:11:35.120 and the reality of abortion and we support women who've been through it yeah
00:11:39.200 i'm just like i'm not i keep thinking about the kid that came out oh yes it was it was crazy because
00:11:49.360 i'm just shocked at like six weeks like that's not far at all yeah like when i googled six weeks it
00:11:54.560 didn't see what it didn't show me what i birthed basically um you know what i think some of the
00:12:02.240 confusion with ages is that when you're pregnant they use lmp which is your last menstrual period
00:12:10.400 yep so actually when you conceive so say my last menstrual period was you know mid-october um that's
00:12:18.240 not when you conceive because you don't know when you've had sex and stuff so actually the the baby is
00:12:23.680 normally conceived about two weeks after if that makes sense so so a lot of the the images that we use
00:12:30.320 we date and your baby was this would have been from um conception yeah so you said you said six
00:12:38.080 or eight weeks yeah yeah yeah it had everything yeah it had everything yeah would i have done it if
00:12:45.520 i knew that no no but but it's like but again like i'm i'm for life right pro-life right but at the same
00:12:52.560 time like it's someone's choice it's like even coming out of abortions and saying if someone wants to
00:12:57.360 kill someone on the street they can it's their choice and that's sort of what i'm saying right
00:13:02.480 but it's still not legal yeah it's not legal exactly yeah because people need to be protected right yeah
00:13:08.800 do you do you guys um think that women that get abortions should be pursued to the fullest extent of
00:13:15.520 the law something with me so if um for the pro-life people here i think we should prosecute the doctors
00:13:23.600 because currently uh the as we've heard from the panel the doctors know full well what they're doing
00:13:29.360 they know it's a human being and they know that they're what they're going to do to that human
00:13:32.880 being is going to kill it so i think we should prosecute the doctors and the abortion um industry
00:13:38.800 uh not the women because most of the women are not fully informed as we've already discussed okay
00:13:44.480 um sorry you have to run that that question by me again um do you think that women if um they were
00:13:53.840 to outlaw abortion do you think women that get abortions should be pursued to the fullest extent
00:13:58.080 of the law um well that would put me in that category wouldn't it but um i meant moving so like
00:14:05.520 if they if they pass a law tomorrow they can't hurt like put someone in jail from before the law was
00:14:11.600 passed so it would just be like women in the future you know like if you change the speed
00:14:15.920 limit to 50 and it was 40 last week they don't say you drove 45 last week no um i i
00:14:25.360 i just think that you know
00:14:29.440 that woman
00:14:32.320 doesn't have the full picture so therefore as it stands anyway so therefore
00:14:39.040 similar to what ruth is saying the the doctors that are signing off these women to or permitting
00:14:48.720 them to have these abortions um and those that are actively performing the abortions should be held
00:14:55.440 to account now i'll just say something very quickly from my own experience was that from my understanding
00:15:03.920 there should have been two signatures to permit my abortion and there wasn't what was the second one
00:15:09.920 sorry so what signature they normally you normally have two signatures um so one doctor would um
00:15:20.080 sign and another would counter sign to authorize the abortion it's a legal requirement yeah that's not
00:15:27.120 so that wasn't the situation that wasn't my own personal experience it was very much
00:15:36.480 in the hospital consultation i mean i'm pregnant and the first thing that was offered to me was an
00:15:43.040 abortion um i just feel like they they should be other options given to that woman so yeah because
00:15:51.600 you were 19 i was nice and so that was the first thing yeah okay yeah um yes you're very i can see
00:16:00.480 it like still affects you it does it does um so it's just going back to what cas said you know you
00:16:05.840 say you train your mind to forget but like we're here today it's it's part of my tapestry i can't forget
00:16:13.520 like it i've moved on with my life i have been healed from my experience but like like most traumas
00:16:22.320 you can't forget it it's just you learn to cope and you learn to forgive yourself for it that's what
00:16:27.280 people say right that's what everyone says but the brain is capable of everything the brain is like a
00:16:32.640 computer if you tell um like you know you have to organize it in certain folders if you don't want
00:16:37.440 something on the computer you can move it to the bin folder and and people don't realize that i've had a
00:16:41.680 lot of things happen to me and and most of the things i've actually forgotten about until i
00:16:46.160 actually come and speak on these subjects and people bring these subjects up i'm like oh yeah
00:16:49.680 that's happened to me oh oh yeah like i'm really good with those things um so what i would do is
00:16:55.280 i would like if the memory comes back again it's very good to start off with forgiveness forgiving
00:16:59.600 yourself forgiving whatever the doctors no signatures or all those things yeah absolutely that's the
00:17:04.480 first step but the second step is working with your brain your brain communicates to you through your
00:17:08.720 imagination therefore you should respond with your imagination so when that memory comes you can
00:17:13.760 imagine scrunching it putting into the bin folder your brain will adapt your brain will know you are
00:17:19.040 the engineer of of of that computer you are the engineer of your life your brain thinks it can
00:17:25.520 control you only because you haven't taken that power but no one knows that you know everyone
00:17:30.240 just lets the brain do everything the amount of thoughts that we get every day and it could be so
00:17:34.320 random like random thoughts that don't even belong to our personality you know but but we can control
00:17:39.760 that we can and and things like that's happened to us we don't need to think about it we don't need
00:17:45.120 to feel the pain every time like this it's happened to you so long ago and i can feel it in in your chest
00:17:50.080 in in your emotions it's still there and it's still resurfacing you know so if you just practice this
00:17:55.920 i'm scrunching up putting into the bin folder um trust me the brain will adapt quicker than you think
00:18:01.200 and eventually it will stop showing up like the whole memory will just disappear um in my case i
00:18:06.400 don't want it to disappear only because i share my experience with other women um so it allows them
00:18:15.040 to understand that there is hope there is healing so although i'm emotive when i speak about it it's not
00:18:22.800 because i'm like holding on or dwelling to it dwelling yeah on it it's because i allow myself and i told
00:18:32.720 myself that because of what i experienced and because i wasn't well informed and because i knew
00:18:37.920 how long it took me to heal the trauma that i had from it i want to be able to share my experience with
00:18:44.080 other people so i do share it on a lot of platforms okay i mean yeah like i share my experiences as well
00:18:49.840 right but it's like that memory really just disappears and it's only when i want it to
00:18:55.040 return it returns it's like the brain doesn't just give it to me like it used to no not on the daily
00:18:59.520 but i mean they walk around daily thinking oh gosh i had an abortion day i've noticed i've noticed there's
00:19:03.920 like two types of girls that like after abortions like one gets like really caught up about it and
00:19:10.560 one doesn't even seem to care and i don't maybe she's just fronting but i wonder if it's like an
00:19:16.560 evolutionary adaptation because historically um if if you got like taken by another tribe they would
00:19:22.480 kill the women and the like they would take the women and kill the children and that that's like
00:19:27.280 why i think it's like might be an evolutionary adaptation um do you think that women should be
00:19:33.680 prosecuted if they have an abortion um yeah i think if um i i think that the information should be out
00:19:42.720 there but if i think if they outlawed abortion moving forward they should because a full like
00:19:48.640 life sentence in jail yeah um if they because to me it's you either believe it's a life or you believe
00:19:56.640 it's not a life and if you believe it's a life if we like under the law if we recognized uh like
00:20:02.880 i don't want to say fetus but like the baby as like a life i just think it would only make sense to
00:20:07.600 prosecute it to the fullest extent of the law but that life can't look after itself like if you're not
00:20:13.760 able as a life to look after another life how are you to be expected to do that i mean neither can a
00:20:21.840 two-day-old baby but you get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if you kill the baby what
00:20:27.280 about um like children like young girls that have been like great so essayed like say you're 11 or 12 and
00:20:35.520 you know you fall pregnant what happens if a 11 or a 12 year old had an abortion would you put here in
00:20:41.440 jail or murder um i mean i try to avoid like the worst case scenarios because 40 of abortions um they've
00:20:49.280 had one or more so it's not like a one-time i would like a one-time situation and less than
00:20:55.200 one percent of abortions are for great um but i think it's kind of the similar to if um but it can happen
00:21:03.360 what's it no okay i'm gonna answer don't worry um it's kind of similar to if a kid is too young
00:21:09.520 like they can go to juvie um but no i mean it it's really like sad but i just think that if you're
00:21:17.680 gonna recognize it as a life like it has to be consistent legally can i ask you that question back
00:21:24.240 because i can see you've got like a real heart of compassion you know but um in terms of if you if we
00:21:29.840 were to make abortions illegal except for grape sexual abuse i say sorry um and all of these
00:21:38.800 difficult cases this disability then would you agree that we make it illegal for for just say
00:21:46.000 contraception using it as contraception or just because no still no i still say it's the woman's
00:21:53.440 choice up until the day that you're allowed to it it has to be what human it is it is interesting
00:22:00.080 because people often hide behind these difficult cases um when actually you know you're the reason
00:22:07.680 is that you you'd be quite happy for a woman to have an abortion just because maybe she wants to go
00:22:13.200 on holiday and if she doesn't if she has a baby will interrupt her planned holiday
00:22:17.360 is that a good is that a good reason obviously that's not a good reason but but i'm not saying
00:22:22.960 just use abortion as like a form of contraception but i'm saying like what but why not well what's
00:22:30.080 wrong with it why why not use it as a form of contraception is it's not like it kills a child
00:22:36.000 well no but i just think that's just like irresponsible if you were like going out every weekend
00:22:40.880 getting pregnant and then like the next week or next month just going to the clinic and getting an abortion
00:22:45.840 like but why not what's wrong what's wrong with abortion that you've recognized that it shouldn't
00:22:50.080 be used as contraception well i mean it probably just wouldn't would that even be healthy for a
00:22:55.520 woman if she was getting an abortion like i mean neither are plan b's but girls be taking those every
00:23:00.640 other day it's quite like just something to think about you know yeah it is but like i said i don't
00:23:08.000 think my opinion would change contraception is a prevention yeah yeah and abortion isn't
00:23:16.800 i think men should have these pills because they can get 365 women pregnant in a year and a woman
00:23:22.320 can only get pregnant well easier i think that's supposed to spread our seed i think
00:23:32.640 i feel like there's a like i don't know why they haven't come up with that yet they have they have
00:23:37.040 they have but men decline they won't take it no like it had too that one that's what they say but
00:23:41.600 it had too many side effects like it wasn't like the women's one no i'm talking like it's sterilized
00:23:47.760 i got like it was actually like too much yeah it was i don't remember off the top of my head but it
00:23:53.600 was actually really bad um i don't remember one guy there got sterilized or died like something really
00:23:59.120 serious happened and it wasn't that big of a sample size so like if it was one out of 20 you know that
00:24:05.600 that might happen to you you probably aren't going to take it but i'm butchering that that's just like
00:24:11.280 off the top of my head um do you guys think that men should have a say in abortion so um for the for
00:24:18.880 the pro-choice people so if you get pregnant and um the father of the kid wants you to keep it should
00:24:24.480 he have any say like if i was in a serious relationship um i mean of course he can have
00:24:31.600 his opinion but i think like i said it's down to the woman to do whatever she wants to do so even if
00:24:39.840 he said no i don't want you to get an abortion i think even if she wants to get one she should still
00:24:44.720 be able to get one because at the end of the day it's hey let's carry in the baby um yeah yeah let's
00:24:52.480 give him birth so yeah i think it's her choice yeah i would agree with you and also like whose human
00:24:58.800 rights are we thinking about here you know your whole life changes if you have a baby like if you're
00:25:06.640 yeah for men and for women yeah for all parties involved and not even just the man and the woman
00:25:11.120 the superior the wider family and the child so what if what if the dad says like uh you don't
00:25:16.240 once you give birth like you don't have to i'll take care of it i don't i don't need you to do
00:25:21.040 anything else like i got it can you carry it for me can you birth it for me can you change your body
00:25:27.200 for me do you know how many times you hear about like dad's running out on like single like mums and
00:25:33.600 they're like oh i swear it took two of us to make this kid like come back here and like look after the
00:25:38.480 kid so that is acceptable for the women to say but when it comes to like deciding on who's like
00:25:44.400 gonna have the baby no no it's definitely my choice do you see what i mean and then like
00:25:48.880 ah like i didn't even expect us to go into the whole men and women's type of debate and i thought
00:25:53.600 we were gonna stick to abortion but it's again like it's just two double standards isn't it you know
00:25:59.200 you guys want basically everything and then more you don't carry it you don't have to you don't
00:26:05.360 you don't carry it but what's worse though carrying it all paying for it for the rest of its life
00:26:09.440 and paying non-stop child support paying everything you're saying that women don't pay for their
00:26:13.360 children well i'm saying no most of the time if the man's involved he's paying for pretty much
00:26:18.000 everything right if he's a support no if he's a supporting dad if he's a supporting dad supporting
00:26:23.120 means supporting the person who's actually doing so if i'm in the kid's life i'm gonna have to make
00:26:29.840 sure i'm working to look after that kid you subjectively yeah not objectively wait hold on
00:26:35.200 say that again that's you subjectively yeah well i'm just talking about what a high value man would
00:26:39.360 want to do for their wife i don't want personally for a high value man would want to do but statistically
00:26:44.880 is that what happens well yeah so why are there so many single mothers in this country or they're not
00:26:50.000 high value men no they're single mothers because women are irresponsible in terms of what do you mean
00:26:56.960 like irresponsible sexually you're in control of who you have sex with you are so if you've chosen
00:27:03.440 to have sex with a man that isn't someone that would actively support you that makes you what exactly
00:27:09.360 irresponsible you're responsible for making a choice yeah because yeah you have you have 10 choices the
00:27:15.120 men have one you you have the choice like you know when you're ovulating you have the choice to get an
00:27:19.840 abortion you have 41 forms of birth control to choose from the man has condom or no condom that's a choice
00:27:26.720 right you're right but i'm saying i'm saying the women have more choice than the men so it's more
00:27:32.480 on us we're in control of who who we have sex with so coming back to the original question was like
00:27:38.400 should man have a choice when it comes to abortion 100 based on that opinion 100 right i mean you guys
00:27:46.160 are for equality right so why can't we get pals pals just literally said with her home words that it's our
00:27:51.200 responsibility so why would you get a say if it's our responsibility i said it's um we have more
00:27:56.400 choices so we are more responsible so if we're more responsible why do we not have the same percentage
00:28:00.800 of choice okay but you're only having that large percentage of choice while it's in your stomach
00:28:05.760 right and that's all you're debating but what happens when it comes out yeah i said who's who's
00:28:09.840 responsible for birth yeah pregnancy birth both plus i feel like it's hot like it's the egg and the sperm
00:28:16.000 it's not just yeah it's like half half right so it's like it takes two to tango but if it's 50 50
00:28:21.840 then why are we more responsible because we have to carry it no i'm saying i'm saying i'm saying if
00:28:27.680 there's an unplanned pregnancy like we as women we have so much more choice than the men so like we can
00:28:34.240 we can do abstinence if we want like we all could have waited till we were married you know we we can
00:28:39.120 also um we also have the choice to require the men that we sleep with wear condoms we could do that we
00:28:44.800 could also we also have the choice to get on birth control you can get an iud you can get a pill
00:28:48.800 that thing in your arm i know there's side effects but that's that's our choice right um
00:28:53.360 on top of that we also can be wise with who we sleep with and not sleep with anyone that wouldn't be
00:28:57.760 not a good father we also have the choice to get an abortion we also have the choice to put a man on
00:29:02.560 child support we also have the choice to get married and leave leave and then take half um we also
00:29:08.720 get more child support if we take away the kids from the dad so we're financially incentivized to take away
00:29:14.560 the children um so they have all of the we have all of this choice and the men have condom or no
00:29:20.240 condom so it's like if we have 10 choices that's a pre-pregnancy choice that the man has post-pregnancy
00:29:26.000 choice it would depend a lot a lot of the things yeah of course we have that choice but divorce
00:29:30.880 doesn't just get you don't just automatically get half based on absolutely nothing like if you're a
00:29:35.040 woman that's like worked and earned certain amount of money it does come down to yeah and there's
00:29:40.080 there's a small percentage of women but women don't typically make more than men that we we make
00:29:44.880 less and we spend more and there's also um i just learned about this the other day there's um lawsuits
00:29:50.800 going on in the u.s where they overestimate how much it costs to raise a child basically just so
00:29:57.680 they can get more child support in court so they'll say like it costs this much to raise a child even
00:30:01.920 though like for example let's do kanye west and kim kardashian like why does that girl and and she
00:30:07.360 out earns him and he's a billionaire and he still has to pay how much in child support 200 000 yeah
00:30:12.880 200k a month and that's a billionaire woman so what happens to the average man if if a multimillionaire
00:30:19.680 that married a billionaire can't escape child support so you believe that a man shouldn't have any say
00:30:25.040 in an abortion or should based on the fact that you acknowledge that women have all the responsibility
00:30:30.240 no i'm saying like we are more responsible for an unplanned pregnancy like it's more of our fault
00:30:35.200 and we actually avoid the responsibility after because we can we make the men pay for our poor
00:30:41.120 choices so you think that they should have more say in abortions or not um i think that abortion if it
00:30:47.040 was up to me it would be illegal yeah so um i don't think anyone should have to say but if it was to be
00:30:52.960 that what would be your like if if that if abortions were not illegal and you were on the side of uh pro
00:31:00.640 if i was pro-choice you would think that it would have to be a signature from the man and the woman
00:31:05.360 for unable to enable the actual like surgical or procedure to continue based on the facts
00:31:12.240 um that's a good question um but see that's hard because i wouldn't even i wouldn't be pro-choice to
00:31:18.000 begin with so why is the question like relevant why because you're pro-choice that's what i was asking
00:31:24.880 yeah um but if if you're pro-life like you don't believe in abortion to begin with so you wouldn't
00:31:29.680 even get there so it's not about the masculine and feminist purely based on it's just like like
00:31:35.040 feminists fought for equality here it is well guys guys that are pro-life right so when i got pregnant
00:31:41.520 twice i was actually on um anti-contraception um how would you how would you react to that like
00:31:47.520 obviously what i was um i was on pills okay yeah and i was taking them regularly and both of
00:31:54.720 of the times i even changed my pills just to make sure you know it's a different one and and both of
00:32:00.080 the times i actually got pregnant so it's it's kind of difficult like when you actually don't want
00:32:05.280 it after the first time um what do you mean after the first like pregnancy you didn't switch birth
00:32:10.080 control i did i did that's why i said i tried different ones yeah and then the the other one
00:32:14.240 yeah it's a different one and it still didn't work and i looked specifically just to check like i
00:32:19.360 made sure that i took one i even had an alarm set you know and it is what would you say to that
00:32:24.240 i'm curious why don't you get an iud that's like that's the most effective one what's that um what
00:32:29.680 the coil i don't know oh is that what you guys call it here the coil i had a coil um but it went um
00:32:37.360 it got stuck um under i couldn't breathe i had to they didn't even know that it um it was that it was
00:32:44.560 stuck under it was attached to one of the womb tissues or something it was so painful and i kept saying
00:32:50.880 like something's wrong and they were like no nothing's wrong you ain't had children so it's
00:32:55.120 it's not that you know and i had to actually go privately pay for x-rays and then they told me no
00:33:00.160 it's that and they had to to get it out i mean i just think um you also only ovulate three days a
00:33:04.240 month so i think you can track your ovulation um i think you can wear condoms and i think you can
00:33:10.400 not have sex yeah that's another thing but yeah and i just think like i'm just a big fan of like
00:33:17.280 you kind of made your bed lie in it and at some point like something went wrong yeah um but you
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