What’s The Future For @JustPearlyThings
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On this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend and business partner Michael Sartain. We talk about how he got started in business, how he started his business, and why he decided to start a podcast.
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I'm so tired of panels actually. Really? Yeah, yeah. I'm just getting started pro. What do you
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mean? Why are you tired of it? Oh, um, it's more, I don't know. I really want to do more documentary
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stuff and have more time for that than panels. So what kind of documentaries? Um, I want to finish
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my divorce documentary. I feel like, uh, I've had so much stuff. It's kind of been put on like the
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backend. Um, I want to do a documentary into the school system to like, just kind of like deep
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dives into some of these institutions that I would argue discriminate against men. Um, that's what I
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want to do. Nice. All right. We got five more minutes. What other questions you got? Would
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all right. So where do you like, want this show to go? Like, what's your like end goal?
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Great question. So, you know, I say that, um, this, look, this is value attainment. So we have
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certain standards here. You know, we're not some fledgling little random YouTube company with no
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framework or vision or purpose. We're here to value attain. We need to provide value and we also want
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to entertain people. So when I started the basic premise of my show used before sauce, cause it was
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called sauce talks money. It was all money for five years. And then PVD sat me down one day. He's
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like, again, you have to evolve. You have to reinvent yourself. He's like, you know, you're good with
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money, but you're not the greatest. Okay. What else can you infuse? All right. And Pat basically was
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like, you're an awesome networker. You've owned bars in South beach. You've been around celebrities.
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You've been at the Kardashians and NBA players and rappers. Like, you know, all these people,
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you know, nightlife, you know, women, you have friends with women. Like, why don't you infuse
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that with your show? You know what I said? No, I'm good. And a year later, finally, I decided
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to do it. And obviously it kind of hit right as the red pill main kind of went mainstream and all
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that. So what I've realized is, you know, I remember the first time Rolo came on, right?
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Your buddy. And I, and I respect Rolo only because he was very open with me and like, meaning
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like, uh, he was like, Hey man, nice to meet you. Let me introduce you to some friends.
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Right. Introduce me to fresh and fit and Michael Sartain and Justin Waller. And for that, I'm
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grateful. Like the introductions, like in order to introduce someone to your, to your, um,
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network, there's a certain level of trust right there. And that's not saying that me and Rolo
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haven't had issues in the past, but I will always, uh, gravitate towards, I respect that
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man. Okay. So he came on. I remember the first time I asked him, I go, what's red pill. This
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is in early 2022. Keep in mind, right. You're talking to somebody that's been in the dating
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scene, South beach lifestyle, like, you know, men, women for 20 years. So once I kind of like,
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Oh, cool, cool. Intersexual dynamics, men, women, different. Cool. You know, I've realized,
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all right, when I show up to the club with four of my buddies, we don't get in. When I show up
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with four of these girls, I get a free table. Got it. All right. Bingo, bingo. Got it. So I
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started asking these questions and it just seemed very natural to me. So I wouldn't say that I am
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part of the red pill. I would say how Michael Sartain is red pill adjacent. I would say I respect
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what they got going on. But at the end of the day, I'm always going to gravitate towards, um,
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money, business, networking, what value tainment is. So I would probably will do a little bit more
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money content, like having conversations with women about money. Like, all right. So you do
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only fans. The natural thing is that, you know, no dude's ever going to marry you. You high body
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count bitch. Yeah. I might be like, so what do you do with the money? Oh, you only have five grand
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saved up, but you said you've made 200 grand. What are you doing with your life? Right. Cause it's a
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lot, it's a lot easier to nitpick tangible stuff rather than like you're dirty asshole. Nobody's
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going to marry you. So like, I get that content. I've done it. I've seen it. Awesome. But I do want
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to do kind of more like how you want to do more documentaries and movies kind of want to understand
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that a little bit more, but I do like this that you must admit there's something, there's something
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cool about the men, women, dating nature, all that kind of stuff like that. It's interesting. It's
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appealing. Um, but I would say for me, I would, I'm going to gravitate a little bit more towards that
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moving forward. Like how many times can you talk about body count? At least a hundred different.
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Yeah. A hundred different times. But after that, um, and do you think you'll, okay. Cause recently
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Jedediah is not with you guys anymore. Right. So like, what are you guys going to have like more
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people here or is it just going to be that you guys have two shows now? Like what's your plan?
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No, we actually have, I think five shows these days, five or six different talents and we're
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growing. I think we just, we just had an open house here at Valuetainment. We hired how many
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people, how many people showed up to the open call? Like 50 people show up and it was like
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live interview. We hired a whole bunch of people. No, bro. We, you know, you've been in both
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buildings. You've seen this building, pretty nice facility here, right? You've been at the
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other one. No, it's super nice. Super nice. You know, PBD respect to him. Um,
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he's in the process of literally looking for a campus right now. So the goal of
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Valuetainment is to have a thousand employees. Right. So I can look at it and be like, I was
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employing number four. Right. Like it's pretty interesting. I think now we're at maybe 90.
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Yeah. You know, so we're growing, we have a vision. Um, we were, we're here to empower future
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leaders and, uh, Valuetain the audience out there. So we have a deep vision. Yep. Um, maybe one day
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Pearl's doing a documentary with Valuetainment. You never know. You never know. Future looks
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bright. So they're saying that we got to wrap up now. You want to ask one or two more questions
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and I have one more last question for you. No, I'm okay. You have a better understanding
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of me? Yeah. Yeah. How about this? I do. I do feel like you guys would be a cute couple.
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Okay. You're really pushing this agenda, right? I know. You're really doubling down on that.
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Yeah. But thank you. Um, there's some certain men out there that are maybe in Nat's life
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that are probably be a little offended right now. Sorry. Sorry, fellas. What, what would
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you say is the biggest misconception about me? You're like, I don't think people know you
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that much. I don't think that, uh, what's like the one thing you're like, Pearl, any questions
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on the table, you can ask me anything, offend me. I don't care. What do you, what do you really
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want to know? Um, the biggest misconception about you? I don't know. Whatever question you want
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to ask. I'm actually having fun with this. I don't know. Um, I can, I can, can you say that
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question in a different way? Anything else you really want to ask me, but maybe you're holding
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back on asking? I literally can't think of anything. All right. Sorry. I put it out there.
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Let the record show. Um, before we, um, uh, let's do super chats and then we'll, we'll do the happy
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ending and we'll wrap up and Pearl can get her Chipotle in before she leaves. I already
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ate it. Oh, you already ate it. Respect. Okay. Thanks for super chats. We have, sorry
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if I messed up your name, uh, Deionka Taylor, Pearl, what are you looking for in a man?
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I think you covered that. We already addressed that. Uh, junior, he said, Pearl, would you
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go on fresh and fit? Seen you on there a few years ago and would love to see you reconnect
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with them. Uh, then we have, would you go? Yeah, no, I totally would. Okay. Nice. Uh,
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then we have Don Juan Plague is zero. I know I turned down some of your small chats,
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but they were mean chats and they were only a dollar buddy, but I see your $10 one. And he
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said, shame on that for not reading. Uh, shame on Trello for lying. Shame on Conovan Sharp
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for misleading. Shame on MLD for flutterant workout programs. Shame, shame, shame. Dis fatty
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bang hotties. Okay. That was a $10 one. Got it. Yeah. For the record, we're never, ever,
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ever, ever going to read $1 chats, especially if they're, um, hating comments, hating comments.
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You want to hate all you want at $10 comment. That's fine. That's at least worthy of your time.
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Do you have a minimum of chat you'll read? Uh, we usually do like 10 or 20 bucks. Okay.
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Yeah. Gotcha. So you're not going to just succumb to a dollar. Fuck you Pearl comment.
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You don't need the dollar that bad. I just won't read it. I'm like, I don't need this attitude,
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bitch. Right. Pass. Uh, then we have Crypto Creeper. There is a reason a lot of men and some
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women agree with Pearl. She resonates with what people are thinking. Thanks for booking her
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Nat. Keep up the great work. Then we have, uh, yeah, thanks for booking your Nat. Actually,
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this was sauce, but I love you. That was a great comment. It was Nat. It was Nat. It was Nat.
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Typical woman taking all the thunder from the men. Taking all the clout. Can't trust them.
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Sorry. Sisterhood of Raleigh. Oh, wow. Now you want to play the sisterhood.
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She can rail on women all she wants, but she is one.
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What needs to happen is so that both men and women win.
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Saying be 1% sounds a bit unrealistic for most.
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I would say the solution is lowering the risks of men for marriage.
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You know, whether it's money or whether it's your status,
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We all know the lowest form of stoplight is red, stop, okay?
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In the dating world, that is meaning you got no game.
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The beautiful thing as a man is that you can get to a yellow light.
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Maybe you deal with rejection, but develop your confidence, right?
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If you go to get rejected by nine girls and the 10th one says, yes, great, you're getting
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But the beautiful thing of a man, no matter how short you are, no matter how bald you are,
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no matter how poor you are, no matter what you are, if you play your game right, it might
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take you 5, 10, 20 years, you can become a green light.
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And as Andrew Tate will say, a man is born with a blank slate.
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I believe that a man is born as a red light and can work his way up to a green light.
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That's why when you say, well, one-third of men are virgins, it's like, figure out how not
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You know what percent of men have had more than one sexual partner in the past year?
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What percentage of men have had more than one sexual partner in the last year?
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Look, it is not acceptable for a man to be average.
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If you're just an average dude, you're average looking, you have an average job, you have average
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personality, girls aren't going to want to want you.
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And it's incumbent on every man to strive for greatness.
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Do you, do you think like, cause it's interesting.
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I don't see like a guy that has a normal job as like somehow not doing enough.
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Cause it just, it sounds like you're saying like you're not doing enough if you're, if
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Uh, the truck driver, he's working eight, 10 hour days, whatever it is, whatever job it
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The, the bigger question is what are you doing with the other 14, 16 hours a day?
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You're probably sleeping for six to eight hours.
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What are you doing with the other six, eight, 10 hours?
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Most people are getting home and Netflixing and chilling or eating pizza or playing video
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Very few people are going to the gym, reading, networking, going to business events.
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Very, it's, it's not so much what you do during your working hours.
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That'll make you, uh, different from the average guy.
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So I, I do, I respect the working man, the Uber driver, the truck driver, the plumber,
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But if you go home and you play video games and jerk off and smoke weed and that's your
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If you go home and you read and you go to the gym and you work out and you go donate your
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So it's, to me, it's not just the nine to five thing.
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You know, we do something called the happy ending.
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You know, you've said that you've wanted, uh, to basically do less panels, uh, and start
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Um, you know, we've, we've seen some of the comments from the haters.
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I actually believe that you're not going anywhere.
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Hopefully he's Catholic and six foot and bingo bango and all that fun stuff.
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Um, but what's the vision of Pearl and pearly things and the company you're building?
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So when we look at this by the time you're 30, what are we going to see from Pearl?
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Um, well, what we want to do is we want to leave a network in London.
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Um, so the idea is we're going to sign like five talents in London and then we're in the
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I actually outsource that like as much as I possibly can.
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So, um, and then we might, we're gonna, I'm probably going to have an office in Chicago to
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And then we're going to expand to, uh, maybe Miami or Vegas for the two cities we're looking
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Well, you have a friend in Miami and you can always shoot content here at value
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Pearlie thinks, um, I believe, you know, part of the premise of doing these shows is
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having these conversations to help men and women do better, improve, get better.
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It's very hard to get them to convince the other side to get what they want.
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You've used some shock and awe to draw attention to this issue, much like Andrew Tate has.
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But I believe that men and women do better together and better coexisting together.
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If we, everyone hates each other, no one gets together.
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You know, you're an advocate of women playing their traditional role, men being respected.
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I think that's something that you advocate of, although it sort of gets misconstrued with
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you're a female chauvinist and sort of the monikers that are thrown your way.
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But at the end of the day, this is a happy ending.
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How do you, how can men and women coexist and not just coexist, not survive, but thrive in
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I don't, I don't think men and women will coexist until the laws change for men.
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I just, I think men are going to look at the risks versus the rewards and continue to walk
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It's saying 60% of men in their twenties are not looking for marriage or relationships.
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Um, so I think if you want to see them come together, then change the laws.
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Well, I I'm solving for children because the truth of the matter is in this country, when
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They're always hers because the woman will always have the leverage.
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When you have kids, you can get whatever prenup you want.
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You might be protected from a prenup wise, but there's no guarantee that you will be the
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Because if a woman feels like it, she can leave.
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So, so if we want to see men and women get together, change the laws.
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Give your best piece of advice to men and give your best piece of advice to women.
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My best piece of advice to men is never to marry a spiteful woman and to watch out for
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spite because I actually think that's worse than a slutty chick is a spiteful one because
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those are the ones that'll ruin you in divorce court.
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And for women, please stop telling me about your rapper ex-boyfriend.
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Please stop dating these rappers because I'm sick of hearing about them.
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You've held my feet to the fire on a situation.
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But as always, we leave here, I think, with a better understanding of each other's perspectives.
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If you enjoy Pearl being on the show, hit the thumbs up.
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And obviously, Pearl's approaching two million on her channel.
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The next time we see you here, hopefully, we meet your husband, your boyfriend.
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We have no show on Thursday, but we got something cooking special for you coming up.