JustPearlyThings - June 06, 2023


Why Divorced Women DON'T DESERVE Child Support


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In this episode, we discuss the issue of child support and how it should be paid to the children of a child separation from a parent. Do you think child support should be illegal or should it be legal? Is it fair for the child to receive child support from both parents?

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00:00:00.000 do you guys think that there should be child support like do you if it was up
00:00:08.560 to you would you make child support illegal or do you think it has its place
00:00:11.760 I'm just go around and just say as in for both parties like just as a
00:00:16.680 institution yeah as an institution yeah yes yes it depends it depends so in
00:00:23.520 some situations yes so is it legal or illegal well child supports legal now
00:00:29.080 and I'm asking do you think it should be yeah it should be legal um it depends on
00:00:35.380 it so I'm gonna wait in here in it yes but it needs to be the way it needs to
00:00:41.580 be calculated needs to be fair if she's not if she's earning a lot of money 1.00
00:00:44.960 then they need some adjustment for that okay hmm I say yes but it's controversial
00:00:54.040 you know I was just thinking though because if they've got equal custody of
00:00:57.340 the child then no because when the youths with me I'll pay when it's with you
00:01:01.420 you'll pay and that's it in it that would just make sense yeah I think but if I'm
00:01:07.140 paying you money and then I'm taking my child and spending more money when I have
00:01:10.580 my child then to me it don't really make sense in it like I come from a home where
00:01:14.080 my dad paid for everything like even my mom and dad weren't together and they
00:01:17.840 didn't live in the same house my dad always bought my school uniform bought my
00:01:21.160 shoes he bought everything so really and truly if he never paid child support or
00:01:25.540 whatever you need to because he bought everything what about there's a large
00:01:28.780 disparity of income where one parent affording a child a lifestyle of a
00:01:34.040 private school certain luxuries and then the other parent can't keep up with that
00:01:38.080 and then you find that that parent that kid is now feeling the way I think that
00:01:44.580 that would still be paying for the private school no no no no sorry I'm saying
00:01:48.340 when he's with the dad that the lifestyle they're living is different to when he's
00:01:52.660 with her why does he have to fund her lifestyle yeah because the separation it's the
00:01:58.580 child maybe she should figure out how to work it out yeah you could see as
00:02:02.860 opportunity rich dad poor dad in real life you go I don't see the need for child
00:02:08.740 support to be honest in like most cases go elaborate yeah because I don't
00:02:13.060 understand you can get a job fuck why do you need his money hundred like what what on 0.94
00:02:17.680 earth why are you entitled to a man's money I think in a modern day if you're 0.79
00:02:20.680 especially if you chose to leave with like most of the time women leave why do 1.00
00:02:23.920 you deserve this money you're gonna you're gonna leave and then rob man yeah it's
00:02:29.680 true if you knew you couldn't get my money would you have left that's what you
00:02:33.520 have to ask them would you would have stayed that's why I'm gonna say it's
00:02:36.500 cheaper to keep her and it goes back to it goes back to no consequence so I can
00:02:41.420 marry a man and leave him so make a poor decision for the family and take half 0.64
00:02:47.560 his shit I guess we're thinking selfishly here because we should you
00:02:53.800 should be thinking about the child's interest in here not the actual not
00:02:57.880 because if we if we're like okay you need to get a job don't get his money but
00:03:02.080 the child isn't affected in that so it's not the it's not the woman or the 0.93
00:03:06.700 man maybe she should think about that before she leaves him I'm not I'm not I'm
00:03:10.800 not favoring any one of them yeah I'm just talking about the child because he the
00:03:14.500 child is affected so so to me if you took away child support it would take
00:03:18.820 away the incentive for women to leave because now they're rewarded for leaving 1.00
00:03:21.880 mm-hmm just have kids but because some cases dude the guy leaves 20% I wouldn't 0.91
00:03:30.340 say I'm I wouldn't go through proportions are good I wouldn't go through data I'm
00:03:33.940 just talking about each and different societies right and but what I'm saying is
00:03:38.020 that I don't think he should just leave for no reason to I think people are
00:03:41.500 really not careful nowadays how do you know how do you know that you know the
00:03:47.200 money is solely being used for the child that's you don't and that's a lot of
00:03:50.380 the reason why a lot of men don't want to pay the money bro because they're like
00:03:53.080 hold on I'm not paying nine grand a month child support it's like yo what kind of
00:03:57.000 food you eating in the house but you're still paying but that's your child at the
00:04:05.500 end of the day like it's your child you wouldn't ask another man to pay for the
00:04:09.100 child right so you should get a job and try to take care of her I'm not not 0.96
00:04:13.840 favoring any one of them just saying that because the child is affected here
00:04:17.320 we should be thinking about what's better for the child if she's earning more than
00:04:21.880 him I wouldn't say that the guy should give child support I would say she
00:04:24.940 should be doing that she should be taking care of them I'm not talking I'm
00:04:27.880 not favoring any of any one of them and I know it's wrong to ask a man for a 0.71
00:04:31.900 child support if she has done if she left or if she has done it by herself and
00:04:35.380 vice versa if she left if he left she shouldn't be like taking full
00:04:40.480 responsibility of the child because it was a mistake too you know it's just
00:04:43.880 like a matter of accountability as you said it's it's that don't you think it's
00:04:47.680 accountability for choosing the right partner exactly oh definitely right so
00:04:50.980 so what I'm saying is if you take away child support people child support people
00:04:54.940 have to face the consequences for their actions immediately so if you're gonna
00:04:59.540 pick a reckless husband that's gonna leave you for a younger model in ten years 1.00
00:05:03.120 you'll face the consequence a hundred percent if you're gonna leave him and
00:05:06.180 take half like you can't take half anymore so if you want to leave you have
00:05:09.000 to really think about it and to me to me this would put the child's best
00:05:12.900 interests at heart because that's there are more consequences for leaving and and a
00:05:18.720 child is at risk if there's one parent in the home that's why I'm saying that
00:05:23.820 we're thinking selflessly here set like selfishly here because we don't think
00:05:27.720 about the child we were thinking about individual interest well I'm thinking about the
00:05:31.900 child because it like from my point of view if you take away child support more
00:05:36.580 families would stay together because there's less of an incentive to leave
00:05:39.820 and you're gonna have less women trying to catch a check by getting a baby off of 1.00
00:05:43.660 a man I believe if a person is selfish it's regardless though even if it's a
00:05:47.520 men or women do you think women would steal condoms from Drake no I'm serious like 1.00
00:05:55.300 like because remember when we see celebrities that's the extreme but that
00:05:58.960 means in society women are doing this just at a smaller rate so there are 1.00
00:06:02.980 girls trying to catch kids from rich guys all the time because they know 1.00
00:06:07.540 about child support yeah I know I know that of course there are people who
00:06:11.440 would use that for their own advantage I'm just saying here if if we actually
00:06:15.200 think about child's interest then there should be child support because they're
00:06:19.360 the only ones affected here so how how does that benefit the child when you
00:06:22.960 don't know if the mother is going to spend it on the child yeah of course that's
00:06:26.020 what I'm saying it's you know it's it's still selfish because if she's asking
00:06:29.740 for child support and we're not even seeing what's the financial status it's
00:06:33.880 selfish itself it's it's unfair on the guy because we're asking for something
00:06:38.380 extra from him right but it should it should be equal it somehow because if she's
00:06:42.940 earning more than him she should be taking care of the child and vice versa so if 0.97
00:06:46.260 it's 50 50 custody why is she entitled to his money if he makes more yeah fair enough 1.00
00:06:51.160 I was going to say that this is what's going to happen it should have measures in place so that
00:06:56.080 we know the money's been spent on the child yeah yeah exactly there should be
00:06:59.380 measured so it's not it's the fault is not on the cancer crisis the fault is
00:07:02.740 maybe we need to keep a check on that it is because if there were consequences to it
00:07:06.400 you wouldn't do it so if no I thought but we know we know the consequences but
00:07:10.040 couldn't couldn't the man just spend the money on the child and not get
00:07:13.480 the government involved like why does he need the government a lot of men wouldn't do that 0.89
00:07:17.100 because I can only talk I can only talk from my community a lot of men won't do that
00:07:20.960 yeah I'm talking I'm talking bro my dad did my dad paid for everything but I'm sure
00:07:24.800 growing up in the block you know a bagger man that don't know their dad
00:07:27.340 yeah but that's different but that's different if you don't know your dad in it
00:07:31.240 but I'm saying yeah like there's men that are involved want to see their kids
00:07:34.920 ain't allowed to see their kids but this is why I say it depends
00:07:36.720 women are taking money from them and tell them they can't see their kids bro 1.00
00:07:41.880 look at what what behavior does this incentivize this incentivizes women to 1.00
00:07:46.720 pick bad men and know that even even if they're shitty dads they can still get
00:07:51.560 bailed out hmm yeah it goes back on accountability exactly yeah but that's
00:07:56.100 what I'm saying I'm saying child support takes away accountability from women 0.99
00:07:59.140 because even in this example right where he has to spend it on the kid that's
00:08:03.020 saying to the woman you can pick a shitty partner and you still get bailed out
00:08:06.480 there's a trade there's a trader for every consequence really what
00:08:11.460 your debating is being a conservative or being someone who's in support of a more
00:08:17.420 leftist support of the welfare state is that not what you're debating because
00:08:20.640 there's going to be a trade-off there's going to be a good and bad that happens
00:08:23.340 to whichever route you take is whichever you see as more of the problem I'm
00:08:26.780 debating consequences yeah I'm talking about consequences for women that's the 1.00
00:08:30.640 whole part of this conversation so if a woman falls pregnant who bears more the 0.99
00:08:37.500 responsibilities of the man or the woman financially in general who bears more the
00:08:42.060 responsibility of that lack of pregnancy of what comes after the woman obviously 0.85
00:08:47.920 she's the one that's gonna have the pregnancy so in that so in that case if 0.98
00:08:52.100 they took away something like child support wouldn't that it wouldn't be a
00:08:55.180 bigger impetus to make a better decision on who you fall pregnant for 0.98
00:08:58.060 or who you have sex with or bust it open for in general
00:09:02.060 but I would say as a man though you need to be careful with who you're pregnant 1.00
00:09:05.900 yeah so wait I'll know but wait let me let so I always advocate that men need to have 0.73
00:09:10.380 discipline yeah but at the same time a man can just walk up and leave so which
00:09:15.100 means that regardless of whether you want to be a principled man or not you don't
00:09:17.960 have to be you're doing that because it's morally right yeah so but for you as a
00:09:21.680 woman do consequences are stuck if you go through postnatal depression your body 0.98
00:09:25.880 changes you're not stuck with a baby no no you have no consequence if you don't
00:09:29.480 want one you can get an abortion yeah if you get pregnant it's a choice you you 1.00
00:09:37.960 made that you made because people had that choice you have you have you have an
00:09:45.580 iud you get an iud what percent chance do you have of getting pregnant and don't
00:09:49.760 don't please don't bring up the exception it's going to irritate me
00:09:52.140 what are you talking about an iud
00:09:54.460 if you have an iud a coil a coil no no an iud is I don't want to explain this on here
00:10:01.140 it's either the coil or the implant yeah that's the coil what they call it here
00:10:05.380 yeah the coil okay okay okay if you if you get a coil yeah what percent chance do you have of
00:10:11.700 getting pregnant oh it's yeah it's maybe less than one percent so if you choose to sleep with
00:10:17.940 men that would be poor fathers like that that was a choice okay so you made that first choice and
00:10:24.600 then it let's say you do that and you get pregnant yeah you can get an abortion but i'm talking about 1.00
00:10:30.420 what about the man that decided to have sex with a woman without a condom does he not have any
00:10:36.040 responsibility to the child yeah so what i'm saying what i'm saying is the women the woman is
00:10:42.180 in charge of birth yeah so if a woman gets pregnant she gets to decide if she gives birth if i get 0.91
00:10:48.260 pregnant with a guy and i don't want to have the kid and he and he's begging me not to get an abortion 0.98
00:10:53.300 he has no say yes yeah so what i'm saying because of that women are in charge of birth 1.00
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