Why Divorced Women DON'T DESERVE Child Support
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the issue of child support and how it should be paid to the children of a child separation from a parent. Do you think child support should be illegal or should it be legal? Is it fair for the child to receive child support from both parents?
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do you guys think that there should be child support like do you if it was up
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to you would you make child support illegal or do you think it has its place
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I'm just go around and just say as in for both parties like just as a
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institution yeah as an institution yeah yes yes it depends it depends so in
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some situations yes so is it legal or illegal well child supports legal now
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and I'm asking do you think it should be yeah it should be legal um it depends on
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it so I'm gonna wait in here in it yes but it needs to be the way it needs to
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be calculated needs to be fair if she's not if she's earning a lot of money
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then they need some adjustment for that okay hmm I say yes but it's controversial
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you know I was just thinking though because if they've got equal custody of
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the child then no because when the youths with me I'll pay when it's with you
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you'll pay and that's it in it that would just make sense yeah I think but if I'm
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paying you money and then I'm taking my child and spending more money when I have
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my child then to me it don't really make sense in it like I come from a home where
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my dad paid for everything like even my mom and dad weren't together and they
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didn't live in the same house my dad always bought my school uniform bought my
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shoes he bought everything so really and truly if he never paid child support or
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whatever you need to because he bought everything what about there's a large
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disparity of income where one parent affording a child a lifestyle of a
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private school certain luxuries and then the other parent can't keep up with that
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and then you find that that parent that kid is now feeling the way I think that
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that would still be paying for the private school no no no no sorry I'm saying
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when he's with the dad that the lifestyle they're living is different to when he's
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with her why does he have to fund her lifestyle yeah because the separation it's the
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child maybe she should figure out how to work it out yeah you could see as
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opportunity rich dad poor dad in real life you go I don't see the need for child
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support to be honest in like most cases go elaborate yeah because I don't
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understand you can get a job fuck why do you need his money hundred like what what on
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earth why are you entitled to a man's money I think in a modern day if you're
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especially if you chose to leave with like most of the time women leave why do
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you deserve this money you're gonna you're gonna leave and then rob man yeah it's
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true if you knew you couldn't get my money would you have left that's what you
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have to ask them would you would have stayed that's why I'm gonna say it's
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cheaper to keep her and it goes back to it goes back to no consequence so I can
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marry a man and leave him so make a poor decision for the family and take half
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his shit I guess we're thinking selfishly here because we should you
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should be thinking about the child's interest in here not the actual not
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because if we if we're like okay you need to get a job don't get his money but
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the child isn't affected in that so it's not the it's not the woman or the
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man maybe she should think about that before she leaves him I'm not I'm not I'm
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not favoring any one of them yeah I'm just talking about the child because he the
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child is affected so so to me if you took away child support it would take
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away the incentive for women to leave because now they're rewarded for leaving
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mm-hmm just have kids but because some cases dude the guy leaves 20% I wouldn't
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say I'm I wouldn't go through proportions are good I wouldn't go through data I'm
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just talking about each and different societies right and but what I'm saying is
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that I don't think he should just leave for no reason to I think people are
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really not careful nowadays how do you know how do you know that you know the
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money is solely being used for the child that's you don't and that's a lot of
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the reason why a lot of men don't want to pay the money bro because they're like
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hold on I'm not paying nine grand a month child support it's like yo what kind of
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food you eating in the house but you're still paying but that's your child at the
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end of the day like it's your child you wouldn't ask another man to pay for the
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child right so you should get a job and try to take care of her I'm not not
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favoring any one of them just saying that because the child is affected here
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we should be thinking about what's better for the child if she's earning more than
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him I wouldn't say that the guy should give child support I would say she
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should be doing that she should be taking care of them I'm not talking I'm
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not favoring any of any one of them and I know it's wrong to ask a man for a
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child support if she has done if she left or if she has done it by herself and
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vice versa if she left if he left she shouldn't be like taking full
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responsibility of the child because it was a mistake too you know it's just
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like a matter of accountability as you said it's it's that don't you think it's
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accountability for choosing the right partner exactly oh definitely right so
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so what I'm saying is if you take away child support people child support people
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have to face the consequences for their actions immediately so if you're gonna
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pick a reckless husband that's gonna leave you for a younger model in ten years
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you'll face the consequence a hundred percent if you're gonna leave him and
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take half like you can't take half anymore so if you want to leave you have
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to really think about it and to me to me this would put the child's best
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interests at heart because that's there are more consequences for leaving and and a
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child is at risk if there's one parent in the home that's why I'm saying that
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we're thinking selflessly here set like selfishly here because we don't think
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about the child we were thinking about individual interest well I'm thinking about the
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child because it like from my point of view if you take away child support more
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families would stay together because there's less of an incentive to leave
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and you're gonna have less women trying to catch a check by getting a baby off of
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a man I believe if a person is selfish it's regardless though even if it's a
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men or women do you think women would steal condoms from Drake no I'm serious like
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like because remember when we see celebrities that's the extreme but that
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means in society women are doing this just at a smaller rate so there are
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girls trying to catch kids from rich guys all the time because they know
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about child support yeah I know I know that of course there are people who
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would use that for their own advantage I'm just saying here if if we actually
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think about child's interest then there should be child support because they're
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the only ones affected here so how how does that benefit the child when you
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don't know if the mother is going to spend it on the child yeah of course that's
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what I'm saying it's you know it's it's still selfish because if she's asking
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for child support and we're not even seeing what's the financial status it's
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selfish itself it's it's unfair on the guy because we're asking for something
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extra from him right but it should it should be equal it somehow because if she's
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earning more than him she should be taking care of the child and vice versa so if
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it's 50 50 custody why is she entitled to his money if he makes more yeah fair enough
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I was going to say that this is what's going to happen it should have measures in place so that
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we know the money's been spent on the child yeah yeah exactly there should be
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measured so it's not it's the fault is not on the cancer crisis the fault is
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maybe we need to keep a check on that it is because if there were consequences to it
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you wouldn't do it so if no I thought but we know we know the consequences but
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couldn't couldn't the man just spend the money on the child and not get
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the government involved like why does he need the government a lot of men wouldn't do that
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because I can only talk I can only talk from my community a lot of men won't do that
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yeah I'm talking I'm talking bro my dad did my dad paid for everything but I'm sure
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growing up in the block you know a bagger man that don't know their dad
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yeah but that's different but that's different if you don't know your dad in it
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but I'm saying yeah like there's men that are involved want to see their kids
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ain't allowed to see their kids but this is why I say it depends
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women are taking money from them and tell them they can't see their kids bro
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look at what what behavior does this incentivize this incentivizes women to
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pick bad men and know that even even if they're shitty dads they can still get
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bailed out hmm yeah it goes back on accountability exactly yeah but that's
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what I'm saying I'm saying child support takes away accountability from women
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because even in this example right where he has to spend it on the kid that's
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saying to the woman you can pick a shitty partner and you still get bailed out
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there's a trade there's a trader for every consequence really what
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your debating is being a conservative or being someone who's in support of a more
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leftist support of the welfare state is that not what you're debating because
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there's going to be a trade-off there's going to be a good and bad that happens
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to whichever route you take is whichever you see as more of the problem I'm
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debating consequences yeah I'm talking about consequences for women that's the
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whole part of this conversation so if a woman falls pregnant who bears more the
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responsibilities of the man or the woman financially in general who bears more the
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responsibility of that lack of pregnancy of what comes after the woman obviously
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she's the one that's gonna have the pregnancy so in that so in that case if
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they took away something like child support wouldn't that it wouldn't be a
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bigger impetus to make a better decision on who you fall pregnant for
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or who you have sex with or bust it open for in general
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but I would say as a man though you need to be careful with who you're pregnant
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yeah so wait I'll know but wait let me let so I always advocate that men need to have
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discipline yeah but at the same time a man can just walk up and leave so which
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means that regardless of whether you want to be a principled man or not you don't
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have to be you're doing that because it's morally right yeah so but for you as a
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woman do consequences are stuck if you go through postnatal depression your body
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changes you're not stuck with a baby no no you have no consequence if you don't
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want one you can get an abortion yeah if you get pregnant it's a choice you you
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made that you made because people had that choice you have you have you have an
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iud you get an iud what percent chance do you have of getting pregnant and don't
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don't please don't bring up the exception it's going to irritate me
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if you have an iud a coil a coil no no an iud is I don't want to explain this on here
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it's either the coil or the implant yeah that's the coil what they call it here
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yeah the coil okay okay okay if you if you get a coil yeah what percent chance do you have of
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getting pregnant oh it's yeah it's maybe less than one percent so if you choose to sleep with
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men that would be poor fathers like that that was a choice okay so you made that first choice and
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then it let's say you do that and you get pregnant yeah you can get an abortion but i'm talking about
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what about the man that decided to have sex with a woman without a condom does he not have any
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responsibility to the child yeah so what i'm saying what i'm saying is the women the woman is
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in charge of birth yeah so if a woman gets pregnant she gets to decide if she gives birth if i get
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pregnant with a guy and i don't want to have the kid and he and he's begging me not to get an abortion
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he has no say yes yeah so what i'm saying because of that women are in charge of birth