JustPearlyThings - August 14, 2023


Why Women Shouldn't Be In control of S3X


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

222.67744

Word Count

2,790

Sentence Count

256

Misogynist Sentences

34

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the age old question of when is high value off the table for a woman and when is it safe to have sex at a certain age. We also talk about the pros and cons of having sex in your 20s, and whether or not you should wait until you're 30 before you start having sex.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What do you wish you knew at 25?
00:00:02.620 Not to date anybody for their potential
00:00:05.200 because the chances of them fulfilling that potential are quite slim.
00:00:10.100 That actually a man who is a go-getter,
00:00:12.020 a man that is a hard worker, driven, they already are.
00:00:15.100 And it's not going to come from me pushing them.
00:00:17.220 They already are that person.
00:00:19.200 And then, yeah.
00:00:20.020 Would you say you dated more for looks in your 20s?
00:00:24.000 Not based on my exes, no.
00:00:25.900 But I do think that that's what you look for, definitely.
00:00:32.120 But I've sort of...
00:00:36.940 Oh, sorry.
00:00:37.860 Me.
00:00:39.500 This way?
00:00:40.440 Sorry, it's because I'm looking at Pearl, that's why.
00:00:43.500 Oh, don't.
00:00:44.660 Goodness me.
00:00:46.780 I've lost where I was again.
00:00:48.100 I asked if you dated for looks in your 20s.
00:00:51.600 Yeah, not based on my exes, no.
00:00:53.280 But I do think that charisma, I'd say, I went for.
00:00:58.620 The funny one, the loud one, the confident one.
00:01:01.120 You know, they weren't always the best looking one.
00:01:03.220 But I think that that comes off as like a masculinity in a way.
00:01:07.360 So I think that's what I was attracted to.
00:01:09.900 And then I'd get in the relationship and realise actually
00:01:12.140 they weren't doing anything else.
00:01:14.340 And I still...
00:01:14.880 You're hooked, so you can't...
00:01:16.160 They had a lot of practice to get that funny.
00:01:18.440 They had a lot of free time.
00:01:19.800 Exactly, yeah.
00:01:20.560 Talk to women.
00:01:21.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:22.960 Okay, what did you think of the body count?
00:01:25.280 When is high value off the table for a woman?
00:01:28.060 I think it is slightly age-related as well.
00:01:32.240 I think that if I had a kid or a niece, or I do have a niece,
00:01:35.580 I would say just hold on to your virginity for as long as you can.
00:01:38.260 But I think that early 18, if you start having sex when you're 16,
00:01:45.960 maybe you've slept with one person.
00:01:48.000 And then 20, maybe two, you know.
00:01:50.020 And then if you're 35 and you've had a few relationships,
00:01:52.220 then it would be a little bit above that.
00:01:53.900 But I think that there's no need to go out.
00:01:57.500 Yeah, I think it matters.
00:01:59.020 What's the number?
00:01:59.660 Oh, sorry, yeah, sorry.
00:02:03.340 So, early 20s, I'd say like five.
00:02:07.640 What age is high value off the table for a woman?
00:02:11.500 Probably 25.
00:02:12.540 Okay, so.
00:02:13.880 So five then.
00:02:14.860 Okay, roughly five.
00:02:15.900 Five, 25.
00:02:18.440 Yeah, I know.
00:02:19.240 You got it.
00:02:19.720 I agree, I agree.
00:02:20.820 What do you think?
00:02:21.820 Yeah, I think five.
00:02:22.580 Five.
00:02:22.960 Yeah, five.
00:02:23.480 After five high values off the table.
00:02:24.960 After five, it's finished.
00:02:26.220 That's a hell, guys.
00:02:28.080 Sorry.
00:02:28.480 I would say below double digits, to be honest.
00:02:33.580 Below double digits.
00:02:34.020 Yeah, below double digits.
00:02:34.740 So you're kind.
00:02:36.020 You'll give them up to 10.
00:02:37.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:02:39.100 That's the most common answer I get.
00:02:41.260 I get like, yeah, 10 is, well, I get when I ask how many bodies is too many bodies,
00:02:46.640 it's always prefer five, I'll deal with 10, 15 maybe if she's hot.
00:02:52.180 Yeah.
00:02:54.140 What do you think?
00:02:55.060 Well, it's funny that a lot of people land on five.
00:02:59.020 That's like statistically kind of the average for women in the Western nations.
00:03:04.600 Like, and so you're kind of going, well, as long as she's kind of average, which is, you know,
00:03:07.580 I think it's a fair standard.
00:03:08.680 Is that average now?
00:03:09.780 That is about the average, yeah, reported.
00:03:11.580 I mean, obviously there's going to be some variances because people lie, whatever.
00:03:14.320 But on the grand scale, it's probably not off by more than one.
00:03:17.760 The one I read was higher than that.
00:03:20.580 It was like eight, I think.
00:03:22.180 That might have been like Sweden or something, like a really like egalitarian sort of open
00:03:25.940 society that could happen.
00:03:27.680 You know, so.
00:03:28.660 Oh, were you doing like world?
00:03:30.280 Yeah.
00:03:30.620 Oh, okay.
00:03:31.020 No, it's more Western world.
00:03:32.280 It's more like England, America, Canada, you know, like sort of like the G20, whatever you
00:03:35.580 want to call it.
00:03:35.940 So there could be, you know, some variance in that, but.
00:03:40.120 That's good though.
00:03:40.920 If the average is fine.
00:03:42.680 It's a, it's such a, it's such an interesting thing.
00:03:44.960 Let me tell you guys this.
00:03:45.660 Like, here's the question I would ask, right?
00:03:47.040 And here's like a legitimate statistical question.
00:03:49.960 I'm interested in this, right?
00:03:51.560 As a man's income and options go up, options meaning more women are willing to sleep with
00:03:56.820 them.
00:03:56.980 Therefore, he gets to choose who he wants to commit to, because that's what a man does at
00:04:00.680 the end of high value.
00:04:01.280 He chooses who he commits to, right?
00:04:02.460 He's the one that controls the commitment.
00:04:04.140 The woman controls the sex, right?
00:04:05.260 As a man's options go up, does that number change?
00:04:10.500 An interesting question.
00:04:11.520 Because like, well, the, the, the body count for a girl that's acceptable to him to form
00:04:15.880 a long-term relationship.
00:04:16.640 Like I know a dude, we actually both know a dude with Henry that like is with a chick
00:04:20.860 right now.
00:04:21.260 And like, you can tell she's been with a lot of dudes, but the guy's so inexperienced
00:04:24.920 and naive.
00:04:25.340 He's just happy to have a woman.
00:04:26.860 He's like, yeah, I have a woman.
00:04:28.200 Is he well off?
00:04:29.060 No, no, no, no, not at all.
00:04:31.300 But I'm thinking like, but I'm thinking like if this guy was like, as this guy, right, he's
00:04:34.920 young, but as he rises through life, he's like, you know, he takes more money, more
00:04:37.820 money, more, whatever that metric you use for value, whatever, whatever, you know, gains
00:04:41.240 more opportunity, more, more social value.
00:04:45.820 He might look at that chick and be like, you know what?
00:04:47.580 I can do better.
00:04:49.300 You know, it's like the same that your friend is picking up a 300 pound chick.
00:04:52.160 It's like most of the guys that go for that, by the way, there's actual studies on this
00:04:55.720 as well.
00:04:56.040 Right.
00:04:56.300 And they say that poor men prefer fatter women.
00:04:59.080 And I look at that study, I go, it's not that they prefer, it's just who they can get.
00:05:01.800 It's just like the market has a certain equilibrium, right?
00:05:03.820 There's a surplus of that.
00:05:04.940 There's way too many chicks that are oversized and there's way too many lazy, broke ass dudes.
00:05:08.920 And then the market surplus adjusts itself.
00:05:10.940 They're really a match made in heaven.
00:05:13.220 Heaven's a strong word.
00:05:15.360 Heaven's a strong word.
00:05:16.500 But that's funny because this lady in the green dress here was saying like, yeah, I had
00:05:19.680 some guys living with me that never really thought they were going to marry me.
00:05:22.140 And my first thought was like, I wonder if there are very low ambition men.
00:05:25.680 Oh, I would say so.
00:05:26.840 Yeah, because they're comfortable being in an imperfect situation.
00:05:29.840 What happens is in this young gentleman here in front of me in the matching suit, he was
00:05:33.300 saying earlier, he's like, I want a girl that pushes me and motivates me.
00:05:36.380 And I'm like, no, you don't.
00:05:37.840 If a woman has to motivate you, no, you don't.
00:05:40.800 If a woman has to motivate you in a relationship, you will both be bitter and resentful.
00:05:46.600 Encourages.
00:05:47.140 I agree with that.
00:05:48.160 Like my woman is like, hey, do you need to travel on that trip?
00:05:51.320 Do you do this?
00:05:51.640 I'm like, yeah, like, you know, like I told my girlfriend who became my wife, I was like,
00:05:55.940 I'm really, really ambitious and be working all the time.
00:05:58.000 You have to deal with that.
00:05:59.060 If you don't, that's OK, but that's going to be me.
00:06:01.100 And so and I find that her attraction for me stabilizes and even goes up because I am
00:06:06.340 achieving new things all the time.
00:06:08.060 And she won't deny that.
00:06:09.480 I agree with that completely.
00:06:10.420 I work six days, seven days a week and you have to put up with it.
00:06:13.440 It's just that's what I do.
00:06:14.660 And I'm not going to stop doing what I'm doing because I'm able to provide what I need to
00:06:18.200 provide.
00:06:18.520 And no matter what arguments happen, you're still happy with what I'm doing because it
00:06:23.860 shows that I'm doing what I need to do.
00:06:25.240 I would ask an interesting question.
00:06:26.440 Anybody here grow up with a two-parent household?
00:06:28.040 Like my parents were together for most of my life.
00:06:29.720 OK.
00:06:30.320 And I experienced this, right?
00:06:31.500 Like my mom was constantly frustrated and a little resentful at my dad because he wasn't
00:06:37.060 as ambitious as she was.
00:06:38.660 Has anybody ever experienced that?
00:06:39.620 That's a terrible relationship.
00:06:40.340 I saw that as a kid.
00:06:41.060 That's a terrible, that's a bad relationship to observe.
00:06:44.140 That's a bad relationship because what happens, Pearl, you know, that's what happens with
00:06:46.900 the moment a woman out-earns a man.
00:06:48.520 She leaves.
00:06:49.060 It's done.
00:06:49.960 He's done.
00:06:50.780 Yeah.
00:06:51.200 Instantly.
00:06:51.720 So it's like you want to really motivate your guy?
00:06:53.580 No, you don't.
00:06:54.440 Support him.
00:06:55.620 No, but that's, yeah.
00:06:57.580 Support.
00:06:58.660 Always be there.
00:06:59.040 Not, the guy should have his own drive, his own ambition, his own motivation.
00:07:02.480 He should have his own goals.
00:07:03.460 And then the woman's like, yeah, you go.
00:07:05.440 Yeah.
00:07:05.700 Just as a pool.
00:07:06.580 Yeah.
00:07:06.840 Just positivity at home.
00:07:08.720 You know, not actually, because I made the mistake of thinking that I could motivate
00:07:13.200 people that don't have any motivation, any drive, any goals, and they're happy to win
00:07:16.780 and not very much.
00:07:17.880 But that guy won't choose a 300-pound woman with 20 ducks.
00:07:20.580 Like, he just won't.
00:07:21.660 Period.
00:07:22.200 He just won't.
00:07:23.200 Why would he?
00:07:24.280 I still agree with what you're saying as well.
00:07:27.180 You know what's interesting?
00:07:28.060 It's like women, we pick non-monogamy in our 20s.
00:07:30.640 Like, so it's like interesting, because this is the first time in human history where women
00:07:34.240 have been in control of sex.
00:07:35.980 Like, historically, you either go with the guy that steals you, you know what I mean, or
00:07:39.560 you're dead.
00:07:40.420 You can either comply with him or you're dead.
00:07:41.680 So this is the first time in human history we're 100% in control of sex because there's
00:07:45.720 consequences for the men, and we're also 100% in control of who's born.
00:07:49.040 So what happened?
00:07:49.880 You would think, like, when women were in control of sex, that we would pick monogamy,
00:07:53.920 right?
00:07:54.200 But it's interesting, because women, when we are at our peak, like we're in our prime, we
00:07:57.760 pick non-monogamy in our 20s.
00:07:59.360 And typically, like, women pick non-monogamy because we're going, we find 80% of men as
00:08:03.960 unattractive, not just okay, not just nah, we find them as ugly.
00:08:07.280 So because we find 80% of men as unattractive, that means we're sharing 20% of men.
00:08:11.240 And so, yeah, so we're picking, and because in our 20s, like you were saying, like, you
00:08:15.220 can't pick a guy for ambition.
00:08:16.880 Like, maybe it's social status, whatever it is.
00:08:19.020 So basically, women share men in their 20s, and then in their 30s, pick a leftover guy,
00:08:25.220 typically, that they wouldn't have picked in their 20s.
00:08:26.980 I am.
00:08:27.920 Yeah, I agree with that as well.
00:08:29.500 Same.
00:08:30.240 Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
00:08:31.860 You always see the age-old things.
00:08:33.200 Like, when I was in school, you get the really, the crisp-looking girl that everyone wanted,
00:08:37.880 and she would only pick who she deemed to be really handsome or whatever it was, and
00:08:43.100 then as she got into her 30s, had three or four children, and body shape's now no longer
00:08:48.160 the same, all of a sudden, because for me, I truly believe that men, as they get older,
00:08:53.680 they become more attractive.
00:08:54.740 That's just...
00:08:55.180 There's a reason they age like fine wine.
00:08:56.660 That's the phrase.
00:08:57.820 Women age like milk.
00:08:58.600 Milk.
00:09:01.020 So...
00:09:01.540 Even with the Botox nowadays, it don't...
00:09:03.880 We can see your forehead not move.
00:09:06.260 We can see it.
00:09:07.640 We can see it.
00:09:09.360 It's so shiny, you know?
00:09:11.200 Exactly.
00:09:11.520 Exactly that as well.
00:09:12.440 So then you get those women in their early 20s who didn't necessarily want to pick you.
00:09:16.300 Now, all of a sudden, they want to pick you when they're in a situation where it's like,
00:09:20.160 no, you come back and say, well...
00:09:21.180 Yeah, because they don't have as much bargaining power.
00:09:23.000 It's like, you got to go half off.
00:09:24.460 Yeah.
00:09:24.640 You know what I mean?
00:09:25.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:09:25.680 And so now, it's like, we'll run to the guys that we rejected in our 20s and our 30s
00:09:30.760 and say, take me with, you know...
00:09:32.120 And guess who they're going to cheat on you with?
00:09:34.060 The guys in their 20s.
00:09:34.420 The guys that they hooked up with their 20s.
00:09:36.260 Exactly.
00:09:36.780 So they're going right back.
00:09:37.780 Yep.
00:09:38.000 Yeah.
00:09:39.800 Which I think that's like why we really talk about what we do.
00:09:43.260 It's not really to shit on women, but it's like a lot of men are naive to this.
00:09:46.060 They think, oh, she really likes me because she's coming in my 30s or maybe she just overlooked
00:09:50.020 me in high school.
00:09:51.060 But she didn't overlook you.
00:09:51.980 She's just, you know, the other guys didn't work out.
00:09:53.840 You're a second choice.
00:09:54.960 They just don't know it.
00:09:55.880 She bet against you.
00:09:57.200 Yeah.
00:09:57.540 And you let her back in.
00:09:58.420 You're in trouble.
00:09:59.060 Yeah.
00:10:01.540 It's harsh.
00:10:02.220 I think that women, some women just make a lot of mistakes and are looking in the wrong
00:10:06.440 way.
00:10:07.120 Because I'm like a relationship person.
00:10:09.180 I wasn't just like, you know, going all around the place.
00:10:11.620 But what's high value when you're younger or what you think is high value when you're younger
00:10:18.520 isn't what you're not kind of linking it to a husband.
00:10:22.020 You're not, you know, you're not hunting properly.
00:10:24.540 You're right.
00:10:24.980 Because when women get closer to 30, it's like they look more for long-term security.
00:10:28.680 So in their 20s, it goes back to what we were saying.
00:10:30.480 It tends to be looks more like prime genes.
00:10:32.980 So they say, okay, these guys are the ideal genes that I want for whatever reason.
00:10:37.700 Maybe it's social status, maybe whatever.
00:10:39.900 But then in their 30s, they tend to go for like long-term security and like safety.
00:10:44.020 And so, you know, basically it's like alpha, beta.
00:10:46.500 Like they pick the alphas in their 20s and the betas in their 30s.
00:10:49.120 Yeah.
00:10:49.360 And women don't typically respect the beta.
00:10:51.460 I mean, I hate the word alpha and beta, but you understand what I'm saying.
00:10:55.360 And you don't realize as well that when you're saying the beta is like, say at school, at
00:11:01.620 college, just the good looking guy is the one that all the girls want.
00:11:04.720 But you don't realize these guys over here are the ones that are going to make the money,
00:11:07.780 have their own businesses.
00:11:08.620 And you're not, that's just not in your head at all.
00:11:10.740 You just want, it's an attraction.
00:11:12.920 It's not, you're not thinking it through, if you see what I mean.
00:11:14.940 It's not like a decision you've made on purpose.
00:11:16.980 Well, there's a reason historically like the dads would keep their daughters away from certain
00:11:20.540 guys.
00:11:21.460 Like this is why, it's like, that's why women, like we suck at relationships.
00:11:25.540 We don't pick the right guys in general.
00:11:27.420 Because this is the first time, because in the 20s it switched where women used to live
00:11:32.160 with their dad and then they went straight to their husband.
00:11:36.140 So there was no period in between.
00:11:38.620 And so in the 20s, that was when women started to go out, you know, that's why they say the
00:11:42.200 roaring 20s.
00:11:43.060 They started going to the parties, you know, they cut their hair off, all this wild stuff.
00:11:46.760 And so that was the first time where women were more in control of sex and more in control
00:11:50.940 of who they were picking.
00:11:52.020 And that's when you start to see the birth, like women having less children.
00:11:54.760 And that's when you, well, you see the divorce rate more go down in 65 when women were 100%
00:11:59.500 in control of, of reproduction because we got in birth control.
00:12:02.860 But my whole point is that when women are in charge, we make bad choices.
00:12:07.260 We're like children.
00:12:08.060 Yeah.
00:12:08.360 If you give us too much freedom, we don't know what we're doing.
00:12:10.340 Yeah.
00:12:11.320 Yeah.
00:12:11.480 If my dad had chosen who I dated, I wouldn't have dated any of them in my 20s.
00:12:16.120 Really?
00:12:16.440 You know, and that's the thing, like a lot of times girls will say to me, and I don't
00:12:19.100 say it to be mean, but they'll say, oh, well, not all women are like that, da, da, da,
00:12:22.960 da, da.
00:12:23.180 And then I'll ask them like follow up questions about their exes and their 20s.
00:12:26.700 Like, did your, did your parents like them?
00:12:28.080 The answer is always no.
00:12:29.400 You know, they were funny.
00:12:30.440 A couple of them were funny or nice.