JustPearlyThings - Will Prenups Save Marriage？ (Call-in Show)

00:00:00.000 It caught my eye. Most young men are single. Most young women are not.

00:00:04.000 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.

00:00:08.560 It's a different world now. Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:11.540 No one needs men!

00:00:12.760 The future is female.

00:00:15.760 Men and women are drifting further apart.

00:00:19.220 And society is crumbling because of it.

00:00:22.300 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of merit.

00:00:25.500 We've kind of got the TradCon versus Red Pill thing.

00:00:28.040 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:00:31.760 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:00:35.840 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:00:38.480 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:00:41.480 Now many of the Red Pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.

00:00:46.360 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:00:50.000 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:00:53.700 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:00:56.460 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:01.780 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:03.900 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.

00:01:07.460 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.

00:01:10.320 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.

00:01:13.000 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:01:17.960 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:21.200 You need no evidence.

00:01:22.040 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for.

00:01:26.060 And you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:29.380 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:31.920 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:34.340 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:36.400 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:01:38.760 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:01:40.200 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:01:42.100 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.

00:01:44.520 Wives are taught to leave their husbands.

00:01:46.420 And then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:01:48.760 Family is the foundation of society.

00:01:50.360 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.

00:01:53.680 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.

00:01:57.920 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.

00:01:59.940 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:01.760 We tell them to put off family into marriage.

00:02:03.440 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:06.240 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:10.700 Oh, freeze your eggs.

00:02:11.480 Have an abortion.

00:02:12.500 What?

00:02:12.900 You're evil.

00:02:13.740 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.

00:02:17.440 Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:24.460 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:25.380 And that's the thing.

00:02:25.940 Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.

00:02:29.140 This is not about happiness.

00:02:30.940 The most important thing is the children.

00:02:33.240 And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.

00:02:40.820 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?

00:02:45.680 They think, well, men have all the rights.

00:02:47.160 They have all the power.

00:02:48.420 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.

00:02:50.680 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?

00:02:53.300 I have no friends.

00:02:54.620 No wife.

00:02:55.380 And no social life.

00:02:56.540 Men are alone in this situation.

00:02:58.460 Men are homeless.

00:02:59.420 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:00.780 I have seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:05.620 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:11.040 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:14.940 Women are helplessly dependent upon men.

00:03:17.560 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.

00:03:24.660 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:26.480 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:27.700 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:29.100 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:30.280 What kind of a woman are you going to attract?

00:03:32.580 If men are in trouble, so are women.

00:03:35.220 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.

00:03:38.880 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get...

00:03:41.080 500K.

00:03:41.780 500K.

00:03:42.340 300K.

00:03:42.720 300K.

00:03:43.180 200K.

00:03:43.620 Am I crazy?

00:03:44.320 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:03:46.560 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.

00:03:50.180 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:03:54.020 Women.

00:03:55.480 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:03:57.540 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:03:59.800 I'm over it.

00:04:00.940 When is it going to be my turn?

00:04:02.420 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:04.180 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:06.940 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:08.240 You simp for men.

00:04:08.840 No, I think you simp for women.

00:04:10.260 She's a provocateur.

00:04:11.240 She says stupid stuff.

00:04:12.420 But Pearl is right about this.

00:04:13.680 It's already happening.

00:04:14.820 It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:16.300 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want

00:04:19.900 a wife and women can't find a husband.

00:04:21.720 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:26.220 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:30.140 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:31.900 The American story does not end well.

00:04:34.460 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:04:37.400 Okay, you know what's funny at the end of this?

00:04:46.840 Rachel's like spitting.

00:04:48.080 She's like, the future is bad if we continue down this path and the women are just sitting

00:04:52.840 there.

00:04:54.020 And it's really what I've seen with women.

00:04:55.740 They're like, we do not care.

00:04:56.920 We don't.

00:04:57.920 We don't care in the slightest.

00:05:00.740 And then there's that like girl who she's like, you know, men don't want a wife.

00:05:04.080 And she's got like the fake nails, the Botox, the fake hair, you know, and I'm like, I just

00:05:10.420 don't care.

00:05:10.880 I don't care.

00:05:11.700 I don't.

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00:07:12.140 Okay.

00:07:13.140 So today we're actually talking about, um, a risk mitigation, um, tactics.

00:07:18.600 So welcome to Pearl daily guys.

00:07:20.660 If you've been watching my channel long enough, um, you know that, you know, I don't think

00:07:25.280 marriage is the most favorable deal for men.

00:07:28.060 You do have to make your own decisions as a man, but especially in the modern age with

00:07:32.420 modern women, men really have everything to lose.

00:07:35.880 They have nothing to gain and the idea of marriage, even in the age of women making

00:07:40.540 more money, being independent and doing for themselves is, you know, that a man is still

00:07:46.720 supposed to sacrifice himself for women.

00:07:49.120 And I've asked so many people, especially the trad cons, um, that tell men to get married.

00:07:53.680 What's in it for the man you guys saw from my documentary, they never have a good answer

00:07:58.840 other than shaming men for being degenerates.

00:08:02.100 That's really, ah, or telling you that you got to do it for my kids.

00:08:07.180 It's like, dude, most men aren't going to be able to have children.

00:08:11.680 Where's their incentive?

00:08:13.740 Even if you get married, there's no guarantee.

00:08:16.440 She's going to, she could just go bore your kid.

00:08:18.720 You know what I mean?

00:08:20.060 And so it's interesting because they always, they always put it like what's in it for them.

00:08:24.420 They're like society, you know, we have to save society.

00:08:28.400 And the average man is thinking, yeah, for your kids, I don't know if I'm going to get

00:08:34.180 custody of my kids.

00:08:36.100 My kids don't belong to me.

00:08:37.740 You're a rich guy.

00:08:38.580 Um, so there's influencers on the right.

00:08:42.120 They just use every single trick in the book to try to get men to take a deal that is just

00:08:47.000 not favorable to men.

00:08:48.960 Um, but the most vocal tactic I've heard recently is a prenup will save you.

00:08:54.400 Uh, I'm sorry to be skeptical.

00:08:56.300 I just, I doubt it.

00:08:58.120 Um, so what is a prenup?

00:08:59.920 It's a legally binding contract signed by two people before marriage, um, that outlaws how

00:09:05.700 their assets and debts will be handled in the event of a divorce or death.

00:09:09.500 This allows couples to define their own rules for property division and spousal support that

00:09:15.980 can differ from the state, the laws of the state.

00:09:19.480 But here's the thing.

00:09:20.640 Many women, they'll hate men for even asking for a prenup.

00:09:24.400 Even the question will give women a reason to shame the, her man for the rest of their

00:09:31.260 life.

00:09:32.420 She now has the ability to hold that over your head forever.

00:09:36.500 And you know, men can get screwed in court, even if they do have a prenup.

00:09:40.600 A lot of the time, the man is forced to pay a lawyer and for her lawyer while the divorce

00:09:46.080 proceedings are going on and she can just keep challenging the prenup.

00:09:50.020 And by the way, guys, when these influencers cite you stats that prenups will, are effective,

00:09:59.480 ask them where they got the stats from 90% of the time it's from a law office.

00:10:05.020 And I just have to ask, what is the incentive for a law office that's selling prenups to be

00:10:13.560 honest about how effective they are?

00:10:16.020 Now, that's like a restaurant when you ask them, is your kitchen clean?

00:10:22.400 And they say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:24.000 Can we verify that from a third party?

00:10:26.620 Well, no, we, we told you it works, right?

00:10:30.600 I don't believe that prenup agreements are the magical solutions that trad cons are making

00:10:35.280 it out to be.

00:10:35.940 It's also funny that so many religious influencers are telling men to get the state, get state

00:10:41.700 legal protections against their virtuous wives.

00:10:44.720 What's up with that?

00:10:46.020 So here's an article talking about, are there downsides to prenups?

00:10:50.900 Okay.

00:10:52.260 Are there downsides to prenups?

00:10:54.520 Like every good thing in life, sometimes there are downsides to even the best of things

00:10:59.500 like candy and prenups.

00:11:01.060 Candy is delicious, sweet, and fun to eat.

00:11:03.380 But the downside, too much of it will send you straight to the dentist.

00:11:07.680 Prenups help protect you financially.

00:11:10.380 They set expectations with your spouse and reduce the stress of divorce if it ever happens.

00:11:15.040 But the downside is that prenups can be expensive.

00:11:19.100 See what we mean?

00:11:20.040 There are downsides to even the greatest things on earth like candy and prenups.

00:11:24.860 A prenuptial agreement is a contract between two fiancés who are getting married.

00:11:33.480 It outlines the terms and conditions of their marriage, including the division of property

00:11:37.940 and assets in the event of a divorce or death.

00:11:40.560 While prenups provide several advantages for couples, it is important to also consider

00:11:47.280 the limitations, drawbacks, and potential risks associated with them before deciding

00:11:53.020 if a prenup is right for you.

00:11:55.160 Prenups have become increasingly popular in recent years as more couples look for ways

00:12:00.060 to protect their assets, clarify their financial expectations, and reduce the stress and uncertainty

00:12:05.280 of divorce proceedings.

00:12:06.420 In the article, we'll take a closer look at the pros and cons of prenups so you can make

00:12:11.840 an educated decision about whether a prenup is right for you.

00:12:15.480 All right, so the advantages of a prenup is protecting assets.

00:12:19.080 Many people get prenups to protect their assets.

00:12:21.720 Whether you have $50,000 or $50 million, a prenup can protect that money.

00:12:27.500 Assets can include bank accounts, retirement funds, real estate, and much more.

00:12:31.260 For the sake of a prenup, assets are either accrued before the marriage or during the marriage.

00:12:42.780 You can protect both existing assets and the future assets in a prenup by marking them as

00:12:48.720 separate property.

00:12:50.380 This means that your assets will be safeguarded and you won't have to worry about losing them

00:12:54.400 in the event of a divorce.

00:12:55.480 Defining the terms and conditions of the marriage and divorce, a prenup allows you and your partner

00:13:00.940 to define the terms and conditions of your marriage, which can help reduce stress and

00:13:04.720 uncertainty.

00:13:05.900 You and your partner can specify how assets and debts will be divided in the case of a

00:13:11.620 divorce, which will help ensure that both spouses are on the same page.

00:13:15.180 A prenup not only clarifies what should happen in the event of a divorce, but also the terms

00:13:20.460 of a marriage.

00:13:21.020 Things like marital expenses, joint bank accounts, and other financial obligations can be outlined

00:13:26.080 in the prenup to dictate the rules of the marriage.

00:13:30.140 Reducing the stress and uncertainty of divorce proceedings.

00:13:33.320 Because the terms and conditions of your marriage have been agreed upon in advance, the divorce

00:13:38.520 process can be much smoother and less stressful.

00:13:41.140 There will be less room for disagreement and less uncertainty, which can make the process less

00:13:45.200 emotionally taxing.

00:13:46.440 In other words, the big issues like property and debt division have already been decided

00:13:52.000 on in your prenup.

00:13:53.140 If you have a prenup, you pretty much know what's going to happen in your divorce.

00:13:56.520 Taking the uncertainty out of divorce processes can provide a lot of peace in mind and mind

00:14:01.660 and relief to many.

00:14:03.920 Clarifying financial expectations.

00:14:06.700 A prenup allows you and your partner to clarify your financial expectations, which can help prevent

00:14:12.060 misunderstandings and conflict down the road.

00:14:14.940 When your financial expectations are clear, you'll be less likely to experience financial

00:14:20.600 conflict in your marriage.

00:14:21.800 What do we mean by financial expectations?

00:14:23.960 Well, do one of you expect to be a stay-at-home parent?

00:14:26.800 Maybe one of you make significantly more than the other who would pay the bills.

00:14:32.960 Maybe the less-earning spouse falsely believed the higher-earning spouse would cover most of

00:14:37.880 them.

00:14:38.080 The list goes on and on.

00:14:39.900 These are the things that need to be worked out in a prenup and will help clarify expectations.

00:14:45.260 The downside of prenups.

00:14:46.720 While prenups have many benefits, there are some drawbacks to consider.

00:14:50.320 Here are some limitations and drawbacks of prenups.

00:14:53.640 Difficulty in predicting financial circumstances.

00:14:56.740 Did you know that Jeff Bezos did not have a prenup with his ex-wife?

00:15:00.060 It's crazy.

00:15:00.660 We know.

00:15:01.460 When he started Amazon, he probably had no idea that it would launch him directly into

00:15:07.660 the billionaire status.

00:15:08.660 Just like Jeff Bezos, there's no telling where you'll be in 5, 10, or 15 years.

00:15:12.620 You could be orbiting around the earth like Jeff in 10 years, and you'll never know.

00:15:17.460 It can be difficult to predict your financial circumstances.

00:15:20.340 Okay, where's the downside?

00:15:21.960 Well, depending on your state law and your specific circumstances, a prenup that was fair

00:15:26.880 and reasonable at the time of your marriage may no longer be in the event of a divorce.

00:15:32.220 The possibility of a prenup being considered unfair or unenforceable.

00:15:39.700 In some cases, prenups may be considered unfair or unenforceable by the courts.

00:15:44.000 This can occur for various reasons, such as if the prenup was not entered into voluntarily,

00:15:51.480 if it was not properly executed, or if it contains provisions that are illegal, such

00:15:57.960 as provisions related to child custody and support.

00:16:01.740 There are things you can do to ensure your prenup is as ironclad as possible, like using

00:16:06.460 Hello Prenup or an attorney.

00:16:07.800 To draft your prenup, which can help you ensure that your prenup is up to par with correct

00:16:12.800 state laws.

00:16:13.980 However, there are some things that are out of your control, such as major change in circumstances.

00:16:20.480 All right, now we got this pretty blonde lady talking about prenups.

00:16:23.720 A common question we get all the time has to do with, will my prenup hold up in court?

00:16:32.100 That's a really loaded question, but I'm going to break it down for you from a legal perspective.

00:16:38.060 In the vast majority of states, when you get divorced, you can either get divorced amicably

00:16:43.560 or you have a litigated divorce case, which is what people oftentimes think of when they

00:16:50.520 think of divorce, like on TV, right?

00:16:53.380 You see a trial, it's very dramatic.

00:16:55.940 A vast majority of divorce cases do not get to that point because it's really expensive.

00:17:01.900 When you have a prenup and you get divorced, you can either choose to follow the terms of

00:17:08.580 the prenup, and that may occur through either each hiring attorneys and hammering out negotiating

00:17:14.760 the terms of your divorce based on what is in the prenuptial agreement, or, and again,

00:17:20.240 I'm speaking very generally because each state is different, you can file in court and have

00:17:25.500 a litigated case in order to come to the conclusion as to whether or not the prenuptial agreement

00:17:32.180 should be enforced by the court.

00:17:34.560 My point in explaining all of this to you is to show you that there is a wide gap between

00:17:39.200 having a prenup and following the terms that you contracted to, and having a court actually

00:17:45.980 have to enforce that prenuptial agreement and incorporate the terms into a divorce judgment.

00:17:51.740 So back to the original question, will my prenup hold up in court?

00:17:55.960 Well, this question is up to the court at the time of your divorce.

00:18:00.820 I do not have a crystal ball.

00:18:02.180 Well, I do not know what a judge at the time of your divorce, yeah, it kind of depends on

00:18:09.060 the judge you get is going to decide every case is different.

00:18:13.020 And if you have any additional questions, okay.

00:18:17.660 All right.

00:18:18.240 The possibility of a prenup being challenged in court, let's back it up a little bit.

00:18:22.560 In order to even have a prenup be declared unenforceable by a court, you have to go through

00:18:27.540 the court process.

00:18:28.560 In other words, your spouse has to challenge the prenup, the prenup itself.

00:18:32.520 Doesn't just walk into the courtroom and let the judges know it's a bad prenup.

00:18:36.100 No, somebody has to challenge the prenup.

00:18:38.520 Now, the process of challenging the prenup can result in lengthy and costly legal battles,

00:18:43.800 which can be emotionally taxing and time consuming.

00:18:46.920 The downside here is the act, the mere act of dwell dealing with a court battle.

00:18:52.600 The possibility of a prenup being used as a bargaining tool.

00:18:55.680 Sometimes a prenup can be used as a bargaining tool in divorce proceedings.

00:19:00.240 How?

00:19:00.840 Well, a lawyer could theoretically threaten to or actually file a complaint with the court

00:19:05.940 challenging the prenup.

00:19:07.280 The bargaining tool here would be dropping the complaint in exchange for something like

00:19:11.600 more money in the divorce or a settlement.

00:19:14.180 This can make the whole divorce process more complicated and emotionally taxing.

00:19:20.020 The possibility of a prenup costing a lot of money.

00:19:22.800 Prenups can be very expensive, especially if you hire a lawyer to draft the agreement.

00:19:27.540 The average prenup costs about $2,500.

00:19:30.380 That's just for the average case.

00:19:32.540 If you have a ton of questions, complex finances or difficult requests, your prenup could end up

00:19:37.260 costing $10,000 or more.

00:19:39.680 Yikes.

00:19:40.260 Luckily, hello, prenup is here to save the debt.

00:19:42.760 Okay.

00:19:43.660 Now they're selling their prenups.

00:19:45.480 All right.

00:19:45.680 Common misconceptions about prenups.

00:19:47.440 Many people think about common misconceptions about prenups as the downside to prenups when

00:19:56.980 in actuality, it's not even true.

00:19:58.720 So we want to clear up some of the common myths floating around there for you.

00:20:05.260 Prenups are never upheld.

00:20:07.100 That is not true.

00:20:08.020 Prenups are often upheld despite what people believe.

00:20:10.700 Yes, there are times when a prenup is not upheld, but that is not the baseline standard.

00:20:15.040 The bottom line, it is possible to craft a valid and enforceable prenup that the court

00:20:22.260 will uphold if you get a good judge.

00:20:26.740 Prenups can only protect one person.

00:20:28.920 Wrong.

00:20:29.480 Prenups can protect both parties, but in different ways.

00:20:32.120 For example, spouse A can protect the majority of their future inheritance and pre-existing

00:20:36.920 assets, while spouse B can still receive alimony and a lump sum payment to support them after

00:20:42.640 the marriage ends.

00:20:43.460 Prenups mean your relationship will fail.

00:20:46.720 Oftentimes, people cite distrust, a bad omen, or a failed relationship for their reason for

00:20:51.420 not getting a prenup.

00:20:52.280 Is that true?

00:20:52.800 It could be true, but it's not necessarily true.

00:20:55.120 Think about it this way.

00:20:56.000 When you purchase car insurance, does that mean it's a bad omen and you're bound to fail

00:20:59.760 at driving and crash every single day?

00:21:01.860 Of course not.

00:21:02.840 Car insurance is simply a plan B in case things go wrong, which they might not.

00:21:06.640 Think of a prenup in the same way.

00:21:08.180 A prenup is simply plan B in case things go wrong.

00:21:10.860 Getting a prenup doesn't equal failure.

00:21:14.160 Is a prenup right for you?

00:21:16.300 Should I get a prenup?

00:21:17.540 That is the question.

00:21:18.440 Whether or not a prenup is right for you will depend on a number of factors.

00:21:22.460 That includes your financial situation and your personal values.

00:21:25.720 If you are thinking about getting a prenup, it's crucial to educate yourself with the resources

00:21:29.860 available and or speak with a lawyer.

00:21:31.660 Who can understand what is right for you?

00:21:34.720 In your opinion, prenups can be for everyone regardless of your net worth.

00:21:39.460 The conclusion is that prenups may have advantages and benefits, but they also have limitations

00:21:45.560 and potential risks.

00:21:46.800 It's important to carefully consider the pros and cons of a prenup before deciding if the

00:21:50.740 one is right for you.

00:21:51.880 If you're unsure about whether or not a prenup is right for you, it may be a good idea to educate

00:21:56.320 yourself on prenup laws in your state or consult with a family law attorney who can help you

00:22:01.240 evaluate the situation and make an informed decision.

00:22:06.180 Okay, next we got five bad things about prenups.

00:22:11.260 All right, five potential, five prenuptial pitfalls that may be bad for your marriage.

00:22:18.320 All right, negotiating a prenup may damage your relationship and make divorce more likely.

00:22:24.120 In the context of a prenup, there is usually an initiator spouse and a complement spouse.

00:22:30.640 The dynamics of prenup negotiations may set up as a bad pattern for marriage.

00:22:36.300 Some fiancés pushing for a prenup may be demonstrating a lack of faith in their partner

00:22:42.000 and a lack of commitment to marriage.

00:22:44.220 This can cause the compliant spouse to feel a lack of connection to the initiator fiancé and

00:22:52.480 feel like the initiator is cold or callous.

00:22:55.820 In addition, negotiating prenups is anything but romantic and if prenup discussions become

00:23:00.680 tense or difficult, they destroy a portion of the couple's love before they've even had a chance

00:23:06.080 to enjoy their wedding.

00:23:07.660 Negotiating finances is a harsh business and it's often made harsher by a couple's lawyers.

00:23:13.100 Generally speaking, both fiancés should hire attorneys to negotiate and draft a prenup on

00:23:18.220 their own behalf because the agreement may not be enforceable without the involvement

00:23:22.320 of separate legal counsel.

00:23:24.660 Most lawyers representing parties in prenuptial negotiations act as if the entire transaction

00:23:30.400 is purely business.

00:23:32.080 Although some aspects of a romantic partnership may require the partner's focus on money and

00:23:36.880 financial health, marriage is not a business.

00:23:39.940 Often, the initiating party says after the wedding, you can just put the premarital agreement in

00:23:48.220 a drawer and forget about it.

00:23:50.780 But of course, that's not true and not really possible.

00:23:53.680 The premarital agreement simply cannot be forgotten.

00:23:58.680 It's a legal contract both parties are bound to live by.

00:24:04.220 There may be resentment on either side that was given up, not agreed to, and the resentment

00:24:08.860 may rear its head in all aspects of marriage.

00:24:13.040 Prenups tend to be, we love this word, coercive when negotiating parties do not have bargaining

00:24:24.820 power.

00:24:26.200 For example, when one fiancé asks for a prenup very close to the wedding date, after the

00:24:31.480 invitations have been set out, the negotiation is unfair.

00:24:34.520 The other fiancé may feel extreme pressure to agree to anything just so the wedding isn't

00:24:41.260 canceled.

00:24:41.820 In fact, under such circumstances, the compliant fiancé can claim that he or she did not have

00:24:48.260 sufficient time to consider the prenup and was under extreme duress when signing it.

00:24:52.540 In that case, the compliant spouse could have a very strong case for having the prenup overturned.

00:24:58.760 There are other less extreme ways for bargaining power to be imbalanced.

00:25:03.180 Maybe one fiancé is not savvy with the business or money matter and isn't sure what she is

00:25:07.560 being asked to give up.

00:25:09.000 Maybe the initiating fiancé is very influential and almost intimidating to his or her partner,

00:25:15.280 such that the compliant fiancé can't imagine pushing back or asking questions about the

00:25:20.780 prenup and it feels impossible to say no to the proposed terms of the contract.

00:25:25.920 Even mediators can be insensitive or unaware of any power imbalance when assisting clients in

00:25:31.700 negotiating a prenup.

00:25:33.360 Mediators should try to determine whether the agreement was proposed by both parties may

00:25:38.700 be really thought of as the only one and whether the other party feels coerced.

00:25:43.580 All motivations and feelings should be exposed and discussed in the mediation prior to the

00:25:50.860 proceeding.

00:25:52.520 Prenups may be inappropriate for couples entering into a marriage.

00:25:56.220 Marriage is an exciting joint venture.

00:25:59.340 An important part of the joint venture of marriage is the financial partnership.

00:26:04.060 A spouse may correctly feel that some of this aspect of marriage has been taken away and

00:26:10.680 a premarital agreement decreases that spouse's rights.

00:26:18.380 State divorce laws are designed to handle the issues of disparity of income and disparity of

00:26:23.920 premarital assets if and when the spouses get divorced.

00:26:28.080 So insisting on prenuptial agreements that may end up harming the relationship may not be a

00:26:33.720 sensible trade-off.

00:26:34.720 However, prenuptial agreements can be highly useful for entering into second marriages who

00:26:41.960 have children from first marriages.

00:26:43.960 A prenup can balance the spouse's loyalty to the new spouse with the spouse's concern and

00:26:48.860 loyalty to his or her children of the first marriage.

00:26:51.440 Prenups often damage the relationship between the families of origin.

00:26:57.020 An initiating party may want a financial agreement prior to the marriage due to the existence of

00:27:02.740 family wealth and a proposal and proposal a premarital agreement that excludes all family

00:27:09.140 property from the marriage forever.

00:27:10.940 The result is that the future spouse's family feels humiliated and disrespected and never forgets

00:27:17.380 the rebuff.

00:27:17.960 This is not good for a relationship and it will result in the family of origin that will

00:27:22.960 be present during the entire marriage.

00:27:24.880 A common example is where the initiating fiance doesn't want the prenuptial agreement, but

00:27:30.240 spouse A's parents insist.

00:27:32.500 The prenuptial agreement is made and agreed to, but the compliant spouse feels that spouse

00:27:37.180 A was unable to stand up to his or her parents.

00:27:39.740 The compliant spouse loses respect for spouse A and spouse A's parents.

00:27:43.900 When one family of origin tries to control the marriage through a prenuptial agreement, it

00:27:49.680 distributes the delicate balance in a couple's relationship and makes it more likely to fail.

00:27:56.180 When prenuptial terms are unfair, divorcing spouses may end up in a court battle anyway.

00:28:01.980 Prenuptial agreements do not always eliminate divorce court battles.

00:28:06.100 Sometimes premarital agreements give a spouse a fraction of what he or she would be entitled

00:28:12.900 to under state law.

00:28:14.780 Although the outcome tends to support the notion that the deal is made in prenuptial agreements

00:28:20.340 years earlier was unfair to the spouse.

00:28:23.200 Courts routinely enforce prenups that result in unfair outcomes.

00:28:26.760 But we'll take a second look when enforcing the prenup would create such a dispensary of

00:28:32.440 wealth that the disadvantaged spouse would end up close to destitute or on public benefits.

00:28:39.540 When a couple that had a prenup decides to divorce and the divorce seems to result in

00:28:43.880 an unfair result to one spouse, the spouse may very likely go to court to try to have the

00:28:48.780 prenup set aside and request that the court uses the laws of the state to make a decision

00:28:53.920 about alimony and property division.

00:28:56.280 Court cases that involve the validity of a prenup can be very expensive and time-consuming

00:29:00.900 and they can drag on for years.

00:29:02.400 So it's important to realize that a prenup is no guarantee that you'll avoid divorce court.

00:29:10.920 All right, so now let's see what the ladies are saying about prenups.

00:29:15.180 Clever.

00:29:16.180 Let me make this full screen.

00:29:20.000 Clever things I've seen women put in prenups.

00:29:22.420 Money Before Men edition.

00:29:23.720 This is going to be fun.

00:29:24.860 When I started doing prenup work, it was really because I had a divorce that I was working

00:29:30.060 on and consulting with and she had a friend who was getting married and she was like,

00:29:34.520 oh my God, you need to talk to Joanna.

00:29:36.320 So a divorcing woman sent a woman getting married to me and that's how prenup work was born.

00:29:41.820 Sometimes I pinch myself that this is work that I do.

00:29:44.600 But if I can help one woman avoid the mistakes that so many women have made before in getting

00:29:49.860 married and wishing they could go back and do it again, it's worth it.

00:29:53.360 Please keep in mind, this is very respective, okay?

00:29:55.620 Like someone might have like $35 million, own a tech company, you know, have tons of houses.

00:30:02.080 Like it just depends on the situation.

00:30:04.380 But I always love a six-month emergency fund for a woman in a bank account with just her

00:30:09.700 name on it in the event of a divorce.

00:30:11.360 Someone I know was going to have a baby and she put in writing that she wanted a tummy

00:30:15.320 tuck, she wanted a nanny, she wanted house cleaning care.

00:30:17.940 And in the event of a divorce, those services...

00:30:21.380 She put a tummy tuck in the divorce?

00:30:25.200 You have got to be kidding me.

00:30:26.880 Level of living would be continued as part of the divorce settlement.

00:30:30.040 So she would never lose support for...

00:30:32.880 Do you know what the trads don't take into account?

00:30:35.740 You're negotiating with terrorists.

00:30:38.060 So you're negotiating a prenup with a terrorist.

00:30:43.740 And you know these trad, these conservative guys are not getting prenups.

00:30:48.000 They think too highly of their wives.

00:30:50.960 That's why they always get got.

00:30:52.720 They always think my wife would never.

00:31:00.040 And to be honest, if you think like that, you kind of deserve everything that's coming

00:31:06.300 to you.

00:31:08.080 Because TikTok is here, social media is here.

00:31:11.840 And so before the men of the past, women could hide our true nature a lot better.

00:31:16.740 Not anymore.

00:31:18.280 For raising a child.

00:31:20.400 One gal that I worked with had real estate money that she was able to invest every single

00:31:24.840 year.

00:31:25.220 And if the marriage came to an end, she would get to take all of the assets and portfolios

00:31:29.120 that she had built up over the course of the marriage.

00:31:31.340 Because she had sold her house to move in with him.

00:31:33.940 And so she didn't have a place to live.

00:31:35.240 So she needed a lot of options.

00:31:37.700 Let me know if you want more ideas.

00:31:39.560 I have them.

00:31:41.160 All right.

00:31:41.560 What do we got next?

00:31:43.260 Woman said she never would have married her husband if he made her sign a prenup.

00:31:48.920 What are we rating her, guys?

00:31:50.600 Fellas, one to ten.

00:31:52.680 One to ten.

00:31:53.520 Let's go.

00:31:54.060 That might be a little controversial, but I would not have married my husband if he

00:31:57.840 made me sign a prenup.

00:31:58.880 And I know I'm going to have a lot of people.

00:32:00.260 I'm giving her an inflated six.

00:32:02.320 I think she naturally would be a five, but she's got some filters and stuff on.

00:32:07.480 I guess she's thin.

00:32:08.460 In America, she'll be a six.

00:32:10.120 She'd be like a four overseas.

00:32:11.940 Calling me a gold digger.

00:32:12.980 Trust me.

00:32:13.620 I am far from that.

00:32:15.020 My husband and I, we are actually in love.

00:32:17.200 We've been married for almost 15 years.

00:32:18.780 We have three beautiful children.

00:32:21.060 And I also make my own.

00:32:22.600 If they weren't in love, would she say it?

00:32:26.380 Sorry, I'm a pessimist.

00:32:28.380 It was actually my husband who taught me how to become my own successful, independent woman,

00:32:33.800 how to get my own bag, because I believe that's what real men do.

00:32:37.200 They want their woman to be the best version of themselves.

00:32:40.500 And he did just that for me.

00:32:42.720 But my own personal reason as to why I would never sign a prenup is because I feel like

00:32:46.760 I'm ultimately jinxing my marriage at that point.

00:32:49.140 Because what do you mean we are talking about, we are planning, we are anticipating, we are

00:32:54.760 getting our attorneys involved about this future divorce before even walking down the

00:33:00.520 aisle?

00:33:00.780 That just doesn't sit right with me.

00:33:02.740 At that point, I would rather just not get married.

00:33:04.980 Let's just be in a relationship.

00:33:06.780 For most of my life, I didn't even want to get married.

00:33:09.580 Translation.

00:33:10.420 If I don't get the leverage over you, there's no point.

00:33:14.280 Because, you know, childhood trauma.

00:33:16.460 So if we're going to get married, if you are going to be my husband, if I am your wife,

00:33:20.560 it is for life.

00:33:21.700 Okay?

00:33:22.120 You are stuck with me, not only in this lifetime, but probably in many lifetimes afterwards,

00:33:26.180 because I'm psycho like that.

00:33:28.080 My husband didn't even bring up the idea of a prenup when we got married.

00:33:32.400 And while he's not as successful as he is today, he still owned his own business and

00:33:36.320 he was still doing far better than most 28-year-olds.

00:33:40.000 And here I was still trying to figure out what I wanted to do with my life.

00:33:43.480 So the fact that he didn't even bring it up to me, not once, it actually made me love

00:33:48.880 him even more because it showed me that we have the same morals and values when it comes

00:33:53.820 to a marriage, when it comes to what being a husband and wife actually is.

00:33:58.780 This is my own personal opinion.

00:34:00.240 I'm not saying that I'm right.

00:34:01.200 I'm not saying that at all.

00:34:02.300 I could be completely wrong and I'm okay with that.

00:34:04.700 But if you are one of the women who actually did sign a prenup, I would love to know your

00:34:08.420 reasons why and how you weren't offended by that.

00:34:13.020 How you weren't offended.

00:34:14.320 By the way, guys, if you have any experience with prenups, we're going to do a call-in.

00:34:19.680 So we're actually going to put the link in the chat now.

00:34:22.200 I'm going to watch a couple more prenup videos.

00:34:24.920 But if you know anybody that had a prenup, I want to hear from firsthand experience, your

00:34:29.940 experiences with them.

00:34:30.760 And by the way, isn't it...

00:34:31.760 So we got James Sexton.

00:34:34.640 And by the way, isn't it lovely to hear what someone likes about you?

00:34:38.540 I think it's one of the nicest things in the world when somebody says, you know what I

00:34:40.800 like about you, Jim?

00:34:41.740 I'm all ears.

00:34:42.640 Tell me, you know?

00:34:43.400 Or if someone who I love and trust, I know you're my friend.

00:34:47.060 So if you called me and you said, you know, Jim, can I give you some constructive feedback?

00:34:50.300 Like something I think you're doing that's getting in your own way?

00:34:52.740 Dude, I would be all ears.

00:34:53.840 That's an event in a couple's life, right?

00:34:56.320 So why in this romantic context would you squander the opportunity to have that conversation?

00:35:03.640 Here's what you bring to my life.

00:35:05.660 Here's how you make me feel.

00:35:06.980 Here's when I feel the most loved.

00:35:08.500 Here's when I feel not as loved by you.

00:35:10.800 I think it's because when people hear the word prenup, they're thinking ending.

00:35:14.300 I think I could be wrong, but I don't think most people associate the word prenup with

00:35:18.720 anything about the success of the marriage, which is probably why so few people get them.

00:35:23.480 Is there any idea roughly what percentage of marriages?

00:35:25.600 No, because what's amazing about a prenup is a prenup is not filed anywhere.

00:35:29.140 It's a contract.

00:35:29.680 And is it as binding as anything else?

00:35:31.900 Oh, yeah.

00:35:32.260 For the 25 years I've been practicing, trust me, I've had a couple of prenups I've tried

00:35:36.080 to set aside and I've been unsuccessful and I'm a good lawyer, but it's very hard to set

00:35:40.920 aside a properly drafted prenup.

00:35:42.660 What is a properly drafted prenup is my question.

00:35:49.260 Prenups can be thrown out in court.

00:35:51.700 This guy's coming.

00:35:52.960 Oh, I also heard that prenups can get practically thrown out of court.

00:35:56.500 Is that true?

00:35:57.140 Yeah.

00:35:57.800 So I want to hear from the field, not the lawyers.

00:36:01.160 I want to hear from people in the field.

00:36:03.800 I'm going to send a tweet too with this.

00:36:06.300 People's prenup get thrown out of court because you either had them sign it under duress,

00:36:12.660 which happens the most.

00:36:14.240 What does that mean though?

00:36:15.940 Under duress means under pressure.

00:36:18.420 So like the wedding's today, here's the paperwork we ain't getting married.

00:36:23.080 That's the rest.

00:36:24.400 Like you can't do it.

00:36:25.580 But how do they prove that in court if they got married like 5, 8, 10, 20 years before

00:36:31.540 that?

00:36:32.120 Because you signed the date on it and you know what the date of the marriage is.

00:36:36.640 And so those sorts of things get you thrown out.

00:36:40.020 But the biggest reason that prenups get thrown out is because you didn't disclose all your

00:36:46.220 assets.

00:36:47.440 Really?

00:36:47.940 Yeah.

00:36:49.220 I didn't know that.

00:36:49.940 It's so easy to like, especially if you're trying to move assets into other entities and

00:36:58.520 that sort of thing.

00:36:59.360 So like, yeah.

00:37:00.520 So that's why I tell people, get your affairs in order before you get engaged.

00:37:06.080 Because if you do that, you don't have to disclose.

00:37:08.120 It's just no longer on the table.

00:37:11.220 But like, if you have assets in your name, you get engaged and you're in contemplation

00:37:16.480 of marriage, you now have to disclose what you have before you can move it into a trust.

00:37:21.100 Or it would be like you're hiding the assets.

00:37:24.260 Really?

00:37:24.980 See, I didn't know that.

00:37:25.600 Okay, next, we got another woman saying she wouldn't sign a prenup.

00:37:32.280 There are going to be people online that say you didn't get married because he wanted

00:37:37.220 you to sign a prenup.

00:37:38.380 Correct.

00:37:39.200 So why did you not just sign the prenup?

00:37:42.120 In that moment, it was, I'd rather walk away from something knowing that I chose myself

00:37:46.880 than to spend the rest of my life not being loved the way that I love.

00:37:52.960 Translation, I want to take his money.

00:37:55.600 And virtue signal while I do it.

00:37:58.100 Somebody.

00:38:00.140 Yep.

00:38:06.800 Let's see.

00:38:07.480 A world's gymnast trying to get out of a prenup.

00:38:12.760 Oh, I think the sound stopped working on this one.

00:38:16.060 There is a woman who refused to sign a prenup and says she'll go back to her home country.

00:38:20.920 I can't imagine what this lady here is after.

00:38:26.100 With a face full of makeup, giant hoopier.

00:38:29.420 Okay, the sound isn't working on this, but she is not having it.

00:38:36.080 She's done.

00:38:36.740 Okay, let's see this next one.

00:38:43.400 Does this work better?

00:38:44.460 Maybe?

00:38:46.140 No, the sound still doesn't work.

00:38:50.620 Okay, we got Doug MPA on the line.

00:38:52.640 And.

00:38:52.700 I can't hear anything.

00:38:59.120 I don't know.

00:39:02.020 The links in the chat guys.

00:39:03.940 So the best I love my favorite way to get stories and whatever is from you guys directly.

00:39:09.700 So if you could click the link.

00:39:22.700 Bye-bye.

00:39:24.160 Bye-bye.

00:39:24.980 costab bleiben.

00:39:25.920 Bye-bye.

00:39:27.300 See ya.

00:39:27.360 Bye-bye.

00:39:27.920 Bye-bye.

00:39:28.860 Bye-bye.

00:39:30.240 Bye-bye.

00:39:31.220 Bye-bye.

00:39:32.400 Bye-bye.

00:39:32.980 Bye-bye.

00:39:33.700 Bye-bye.

00:39:34.120 Bye-bye.

00:39:34.860 Bye-bye.

00:39:37.560 Bye-bye.

00:39:40.960 Bye-bye.

00:39:44.140 Bye-bye.

00:39:45.160 Bye-bye.

00:39:47.720 Bye-bye.

00:39:48.600 Bye.

00:39:49.920 Bye-bye.

00:39:51.260 Bye-bye.

00:39:52.380 Bye-bye.

00:39:52.700 for a religious marriage understand what i'm saying well do you know what else was interesting

00:40:00.300 it said that you shouldn't get married with the state and just do it in religion but then why

00:40:08.940 would you have a prenup if you're not getting married with the state they're saying that

00:40:14.540 there's no audio on youtube now uh and for the production team the audio was my fault because my

00:40:23.580 microphone wasn't plugged in when i started sorry about that so whatever that is it's working now

00:40:31.100 okay cool all right um what did you what where were we cut off at did you think they lost the

00:40:40.300 whole part okay um so we were talking about andrew wilson in that debate yeah go ahead andrew

00:40:48.540 wilson is that oh he's mr orthodox i i respect andrew wilson but he's mr orthodox christian

00:40:55.420 he's saying that men should get a prenup with the state then he talks about religious marriage and

00:41:02.700 i'm using him as an example of these trad cons are using every reason every way to try to trick

00:41:10.300 guys into taking this bad deal and and if you think about it if a trad con says we'll just get

00:41:17.260 a prenup they're pretty much acknowledging that women are kind of scumbags out here

00:41:21.820 and guys are going to get screwed because the main thing about is the

00:41:26.540 trad cons they can't get around the fact that all they're doing is tell men just do it bro

00:41:33.180 go for it it could work out for you when we know most likely it won't do you know anybody that got a

00:41:39.580 prenup um i have one friend that got a prenup and that's only because he he has an ivy league phd

00:41:50.220 and he always knew that he was going to be big time and so and he got a prenup he met his now wife in

00:41:58.380 college and uh they met and i believe but she she stays home with the kids but he told her from the jump

00:42:05.980 when he was in his his postcard program if we get married i'm getting a prenup so she knew from the

00:42:13.180 jump and they didn't get married to like four years after college so he had the first conversation with

00:42:19.580 her right before he started his phd and he you know she just signed it because they were together for

00:42:26.300 so long and they're still together okay i was gonna that was my next question if they're still together

00:42:30.380 or not together they have three kids she's a stay-at-home uh mother and he is um he works for

00:42:38.460 some law firm that represents a big pharma companies against lawsuits and so he is he has a phd in in

00:42:47.820 chemistry so he does all the chemical he does all the scientific write-up for defense for pharmaceutical

00:42:56.220 companies against lawsuits he makes a ton of money man he makes a ton of money

00:43:04.380 and i hope someone that had a prenup and it either worked or didn't work calls them i i want to hear

00:43:10.300 from people that actually like went through a divorce and had one and if it held up or not go ahead and

00:43:15.500 also do you guys think that prenups are like the magical solution for marriage rates to rise let's say

00:43:24.060 that every woman you met would say okay i'll sign a prenup does it make it sound any less risky

00:43:31.820 to you guys i don't think so no i really don't because here's the thing

00:43:37.580 prenups they can in fact in fact while we're waiting for people on the call i'm gonna read

00:43:44.700 having costner's divorce real fast if you don't mind sure go ahead so he married this last woman

00:43:55.660 in 2004 right and originally had 38 000 a month in childhood and child support written into the prenup

00:44:04.540 right and if she divorced she had to leave within 30 days of divorcing him because his first marriage

00:44:12.060 when he got divorced he had no prenup and he had to end up sleeping on his friend's couch

00:44:18.860 while the divorce was going through so she said her lawyer said that she didn't know what understand

00:44:26.860 meant when she signed that she understood what the prenup meant so that was their defense and then she

00:44:34.780 she tried to get 240 000 248 000 a month in child support holy she wouldn't leave the house

00:44:43.820 yeah i think i'm is it kevin costa i think is that the guy i saw in hollywood

00:44:48.860 yeah on he was in um yellowstone he was in pen cup he was in robin hood prince of thieves yeah

00:44:56.060 and of course she's divorcing him because his work schedule took so much of a toll on her

00:45:06.220 you're married to an actor yep and so their estate is worth 100 well his um his mansion his whole

00:45:15.900 property is worth 145 million and she wanted half of that and uh and even so during their divorce

00:45:24.940 she temporarily got 159 000 a month for like seven months while the divorce was um was going back and

00:45:33.020 forth and now she gets like 47 000 a month but originally it was 38 000. yeah and then she wanted

00:45:42.700 30 000 a month to contribute towards her new home as well as him to cover moving costs

00:45:50.540 yes yeah all where she all while she's getting all while she's getting banged out by another dude

00:45:57.340 yeah yeah and she divorced him he literally said that he had no idea that she was going to get

00:46:03.340 divorced and now rumor is because she only is getting like 47 000 a month that she regrets divorcing

00:46:11.580 kevin costa i think she honestly thought that she was going to get more money

00:46:14.940 she gets 47 000 a month and she's not happy yep yep i mean i'll get it

00:46:25.580 i'll take half

00:46:26.380 how are you not happy on 50k a month just you jesus christ these people no it's it's their kids too

00:46:37.820 because they share custody yeah but how old are the kids he's old it says he's 70 so

00:46:45.740 yeah because he's like 69 oh my gosh he has seven kids are they all from the same woman

00:46:51.500 no they're from like three different women okay uh 30 and uh 37 and of course she's a woman so she

00:47:02.060 gets 47 000 a month in child support but she moved into a rental mansion that's costing her 35 000 a

00:47:09.420 month the youngest one is 14. okay so you got one 14 year old one six i mean how expensive are

00:47:18.540 okay

00:47:24.380 dang is anyone on the call or no no not yet guys help what do you guys think it

00:47:31.180 our prenups the magical solution if you met a woman and she said i'll sign a prenup but let's

00:47:37.180 get married would you still do it guys

00:47:38.620 would you do it doug and pia you know what uh

00:47:47.980 i don't think that any guys should should get married so no i mean i've been married once before

00:47:53.580 and guys let me tell you you cannot uh you can't control what a modern woman is going to do once you

00:48:01.900 get married all you all you can do is endure what she wants you to do

00:48:08.300 playing video games watching football all that stuff

00:48:12.940 if she doesn't want you to do it she she's gonna give you hell

00:48:15.260 so in the name of your peace don't get married guys

00:48:22.540 and this whole oh yeah you can find a virtuous woman yeah uh-huh sure what incentive does a woman

00:48:29.020 have to be virtuous and women are rewarded for not being virtuous in today's society i'd like to see

00:48:35.740 more house husbands put them to work and put them on alimony you know what i'd like to see put them

00:48:45.740 on put them on alimony and child support yeah every time i see that like um mary j blize's husband was

00:48:54.300 her manager but he didn't pay her taxes for like seven no for like 10 years 12 years so uh he started

00:49:02.700 sleeping with uh uh another woman and was using her money to cheat on her with right and so um

00:49:11.260 they got divorced oh my gosh and she had to find out that she owes seven million dollars in taxes

00:49:19.100 now she's paying him 55 000 a month in child support oh my god i've never heard of a woman taking a

00:49:25.900 bigger l how much is she worth look up kelly clarkson kelly clarkson had to give half her song

00:49:32.940 catalog to her ex-husband i think it's like 80 million dollars something like that

00:49:40.620 let's see how much is she worth though well kelly clark clarkson is worth 50 million yeah

00:49:50.460 now that she's divorced because her husband took half of it

00:49:53.020 and then freaking adele adele was the same way talk about it l she took

00:50:02.940 telling you every time a man gets child supported

00:50:06.220 an alimony all of us men rejoice kelly clarkson's husband's just pissed he got the fat wife and then

00:50:13.100 she lost all the weight after the audacity look at look at uh show my screen for a second this is her

00:50:20.860 during the marriage

00:50:23.980 super fat

00:50:24.780 and then recently she just starts losing the weight hold on now not yet um not yet for the

00:50:35.580 longest time she was denying that she's taking those epic she's like i eat nuts and berries and i hike 10

00:50:41.740 miles a week and that's how i lost all that weight yeah now she i'm gonna try to find a more recent

00:50:50.540 i mean i don't think she was as thin of yeah see look at that's what she looks like now

00:50:54.780 it was epic baby yeah like she's not as thin as she was before the marriage but still he he's like i

00:51:02.140 had to deal with this he's like you sold me left you gave me right and then after you went back or you

00:51:10.380 went to this i will put you on child support he's like you because she's like hot here

00:51:20.540 hey pearl i just want to say i love your show and thanks for being a kind and authentic person i plan

00:51:25.500 on getting married getting a married west coast or dipping to brazil nice i wonder if prenups will

00:51:34.060 be another reason to stay in court longer and spend more money in the future since the systems always

00:51:38.460 find a way to be corrupt almost everything in society is built to transfer money in mass from men to women

00:51:48.380 everything women used to bring money to marriages you know they used to have dowries and father i mean

00:51:57.900 it was from the father but they're like please take this daughter i'll pay you to take my daughter

00:52:03.900 versus today they just were just problems

00:52:09.340 what an l oh my can you imagine you signed up for right and you got left for years

00:52:18.700 can you matt look at this dog you see this

00:52:26.540 and look at look at the olympic face guys look at the right picture no the right that's her young

00:52:32.620 that's before was it yeah that's before i'll show you i had it up earlier but this is the this is the

00:52:38.540 olympic face is on the right it's way more prominent yeah yeah there it is you see how her skin is kind of

00:52:46.380 hanging off her bones yeah yeah he had to deal with left he's like you i think that's that's the

00:52:56.620 ultimate sign of disrespect he's like i i had to parade you around on my arm it's gonna cost you 50

00:53:04.620 million for that and now she looks like this

00:53:11.740 yeah i'm telling you like i keep saying things are never gonna be fair for men

00:53:19.660 so feminism is women pushing for their lives to be just as unfair for them as it is for men so you're

00:53:28.460 gonna see more women just taking l's dude just l after l

00:53:32.060 so you're gonna see more of these women marrying men with less than them and i know that men

00:53:43.020 don't normally put their baby's mother on child support but they better start filing alimony guys

00:53:49.660 get that alimony at least i should get the child support too but definitely get the eye

00:53:54.700 the alimony come on now i just can't believe she did that to him she was so beautiful back in the day

00:54:02.940 you just what a fat grenade man

00:54:08.780 like look at her on the left like she was beautiful and like

00:54:14.540 i mean okay she was a six but she was a very strong six all right

00:54:18.700 look at look adele's divorce all right love your stuff heard you're monetized again so i thought i

00:54:27.100 donate thank you we are monetized again guys any pr any um i really would love to hear your

00:54:33.900 experience with prenups are they that rare nobody knows anybody that had an experience no one's on the

00:54:40.860 call here so i'm gonna let him in okay cool okay it says iphone it doesn't have a name but

00:54:48.700 but uh sounds connecting connecting to audio

00:54:58.860 which is his iphone

00:55:01.900 i wonder if i know anybody that had a prenup yeah i just know that one guy i told you about

00:55:08.460 like he told the girl in college look man i'm signing a prenup all right iphone are you there

00:55:18.700 hello oh do you know what do you know anyone who had a prenup are you there hello did it work

00:55:30.380 iphone going once so we're live

00:55:32.700 you should call going twice all right i'm gonna put you back in the waiting room then since you're not

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00:56:03.980 coming so stay soon stay tuned for that you felt bad when that doctor lady was mean to me it's all right

00:56:12.060 i can take it um i wonder if prenups will be another okay if you oh by the way guys if you go to the audacity

00:56:19.580 site and you go on the live stream there i do unlimited super chats

00:56:23.420 okay he said no come on

00:56:36.780 okay yeah let's look at i was trying to find i thought this guy might have known someone

00:56:45.820 no worries

00:56:47.020 the divorce settlement for adele reportedly involved a substantial financial payout to her

00:56:56.380 ex-husband with reports suggesting figures ranging from 171 million to 180 million dollars

00:57:07.340 oh that is such an l

00:57:12.060 that's not talking about let's go we're gonna let in

00:57:17.980 jacob jacob jacob are you there yeah i'm here how you doing buddy i'm all right

00:57:29.340 oh my gosh uh

00:57:33.500 the sorry hey how's it going it's all right

00:57:40.940 uh hold on

00:57:47.020 so what do you think about this full prenup yeah sorry actually i have a friend of mine who uh told

00:57:55.020 me about a prenup that saved him on his first marriage he was on his second wife

00:58:00.140 and he told me a few good pieces of advice he said look get everything that you want before you get

00:58:06.860 married which i heard from a lot of people do whatever you want you know before you get married

00:58:11.100 and have to settle down and a piece of advice to get a prenup telling me he was on his uh well his first wife

00:58:19.100 actually he got divorced she of course filed on him she completely forgot about the prenup they sign

00:58:27.100 she takes him to court says i want the house i want half your paycheck every week he tells me i didn't

00:58:36.380 say a word smiled handed the judge the prenup judge looks at it looks at her holds it up is this your

00:58:46.220 signature uh yeah okay because according to this you don't want anything oh well uh you see but nope

00:58:55.340 case dismissed he said the kicker is he's on the second wife now the second wife has cancer

00:59:03.020 so imagine how awful that would be having to pay money to his ex-wife while helping his current wife

00:59:09.980 fight cancer so prenups do work they will save you so big piece of advice another friend of mine

00:59:18.460 actually was with a girl for a while they're living together that's the point where it was okay get

00:59:25.500 married or break up my friend says okay we're getting married we're gonna have a prenup she says oh

00:59:32.620 no if i ever divorced you i wouldn't want your money he said do you get the point of a divorce

00:59:38.300 they're gonna want to kill me if we get divorced he said oh okay you're right they go to a lawyer

00:59:45.100 they sit down okay if we get divorced you go our separate ways you get nothing from me i get nothing

00:59:51.580 from you she says um i don't know if i can sign this says okay we're done oh we're gonna still be

01:00:01.580 together right no we're done move out we're done we're not getting together we're not getting married

01:00:06.460 if you don't want to sign a prenup we're done so you do have to ask for them now in fairness

01:00:14.300 neither one of my friends had kids that can complicate it i guess the key is to have a no

01:00:20.060 contest or no reopener clause in there or if you have kids or not whatever the circumstances

01:00:26.700 it is what it is green up kids are not to go your separate ways so get them um me and my brother

01:00:34.380 actually he's on his uh second wife or going to be um we sat down there wills because he has a bunch

01:00:40.700 of kids and he asked the lawyer do you do prenups because i'm going to get married to my baby mama

01:00:46.620 like yeah we do so okay he's going to get that done on his second wife she didn't have in his first wife

01:00:51.340 which uh did hurt him substantially but uh pretty enough they'll save marriages but they're definitely a

01:00:58.380 good idea get them done inquire to them so girl does not want them that tells you a lot what state

01:01:06.460 was your friend in that it worked uh we're all in new york state okay cool so the states are different

01:01:13.260 obviously but uh for a few hundred bucks it's worth a shot um test the girl they look do you love

01:01:20.060 everything about me or just love my money or my potential money so that's the key i have a question

01:01:26.460 jacob so how many times have you been married zero okay but you said your brother got married twice

01:01:34.700 um he uh got married uh got divorced um he's got his new fiancee they've got two kids he had two from

01:01:41.980 his first marriage uh but he wants a prenup before he uh marries his second wife here and then you had

01:01:47.660 he said yet another friend that was on his second marriage too right yeah his first wife um they had

01:01:53.340 no kids signed a prenup she dragged him to court prenup saved him second wife okay um she has she'll

01:02:00.940 probably recover she has cancer but imagine that i gotta help my wife fight cancer and giving money to

01:02:06.700 my ex-wife just imagine the awfulness of that why do these guys get married again if it didn't work out

01:02:14.380 the first time what have they ever said why they've gotten married twice that's a good question i know

01:02:21.740 are that second marriages fail more than first marriages yeah i do have an uncle on his second

01:02:28.460 marriage actually his first wife because that my brother's marriage um his first marriage we sat

01:02:34.300 together at the table he told me they all thought he's like never met my first wife did you i said no

01:02:38.460 he's like she left me our son was one year old she couldn't settle down she just abandoned me and him

01:02:44.300 we crossed the country but he met his second wife they got married they're together in like 40 some

01:02:49.740 years they had another kid so i think it marriages can work i've heard the term starter marriage i've had

01:02:56.860 a lot of people i've known who've uh been married a couple years maybe a kid no kid get divorced whatever and

01:03:04.300 go on meet someone and it does work out on the second time so yeah i mean that'd be awful enough

01:03:12.620 our parents are divorced i mean half the people i know are divorced which it happens but uh just a

01:03:19.900 friend of mine had the prenup and other friend was going for one girl didn't want it so he ended that

01:03:29.180 oh yeah why do people want to get married twice i don't know i've had friends married three times

01:03:33.740 tell me not to get married i'm like come you've been married three times you're telling me not to

01:03:40.540 cool well thanks for calling in jacob we really appreciate it man thanks yeah thanks for calling in

01:03:46.380 um red pill prenum says or freedom says even with a prenup i would never get married as paul elam once

01:03:53.340 pointed out it takes longer to draft a prenup than it takes for judges to wipe his butt with it

01:03:58.700 well it saved this guy i'm not i'm not saying it'll work or not work i don't know that's you got to

01:04:06.780 research your state we have rj isaac it's connected his audio go ahead okay no that's it rj isaac are you

01:04:16.940 there yeah i'm here hey how's it going hey it's going well how about yourself good what um state are you

01:04:24.780 calling out of um not in the united states okay cool like um europe asia latin america oh latin

01:04:33.500 america okay are you you sound american did you go from yeah yeah i've have you called them before

01:04:41.420 yes okay i think i recommend i can't um see the video right now but i recognize your voice um

01:04:47.260 um so have do you know anyone that's had a prenup and how did it work for them

01:04:54.700 no i i don't know anyone who's had a prenup um i am married and i have not had a prenup um and so i'm

01:05:02.220 more here to address the question that do i think prenups are a good idea um because you know i don't

01:05:08.540 have the experience with the first hand of someone having a prenup cool and so i i think the that

01:05:15.500 prenups are a good idea uh even in if they don't work in the end as a way of filtering out a uh

01:05:23.980 potential spouse where if you say let's get a prenup and she says great i want to add in all these

01:05:31.100 additional things and like you like that one girl in the video shared earlier in the video

01:05:35.340 that would be a really good indication of of you know what kind of person she is um and she's

01:05:42.540 resistant about it or saying like if you write up a fair agreement and then she's you know having

01:05:48.860 cold feet about signing and saying oh you know my my parents said i shouldn't do this my pastor said i

01:05:54.220 shouldn't do this you know those sorts of things i i think that would be a really good indication that

01:05:59.580 it would not be a good marriage so for that purpose alone i think that there have been

01:06:04.220 beneficial however i think the problem is that the people who need it the most in are the people

01:06:11.660 who are not going to get it and what i mean by that is um i would consider myself to be a

01:06:18.540 a recovering simp to be quite frank um i was a you know the church going nice guy kind of person and

01:06:27.020 i've learned a lot over the past 11 years um but you know that's the context i'm coming from and i

01:06:35.260 know for a fact that when i got married if someone's told me hey you should really get a prenup you know

01:06:41.420 i know that you know you may not be thinking about this right now because you know you're in love with

01:06:45.180 her and and you should go get married i would have said no way um i don't believe in divorce that's never

01:06:51.020 going to happen and it hasn't happened but i i know for a fact that would not have done that and

01:06:58.220 i think these kind of people those the person i was at that time is someone who actually is most

01:07:05.420 susceptible to you know getting divorced raped and those kind of really bad outcomes that can happen

01:07:12.060 from that got it um but you don't know anyone personally that's had one yeah i think you're

01:07:25.820 completely right though when a guy is blue-pilled you can't talk him into getting a prenup there's no way

01:07:32.780 doug mpa you got anything to add

01:07:34.380 are you gone we lose him that looks like he's muted oh doug mpa i think you're muted

01:07:48.540 well sorry about that yeah yeah i mean every time arjun calls in he makes sense man yeah

01:07:55.820 yeah also i do actually one of our points i will say it as well so another big challenge though is

01:08:03.180 that that attorneys and getting a well drafted one that's going to hold up are also very expensive

01:08:08.220 and uh the people again you know i got married when i was 24 years old so i was rather young at

01:08:15.340 time there's no way i could have even afforded an attorney to go and draft one that would have any

01:08:21.420 confidence of actually well they say the average price is like 2500 but i think a good one probably

01:08:27.980 cost double that maybe well and this is one of the challenges so i there was a situation so my wife

01:08:33.900 she's an immigrant and we had some some ran to some legal challenges with her immigration after we got

01:08:39.900 married and we tried going through you know we ended up having to hire a immigration attorney which was

01:08:47.420 you know it went for someone else just someone we could afford some very cheap things dragged on for

01:08:52.540 years and nothing happened things were just getting worse in the end we ended up um going with an

01:08:58.380 attorney that was much more expensive than whatever kid we had to borrow money from family to be able

01:09:03.420 to afford but we are like it was like she was going to to port that day so either we paid now or she

01:09:09.500 just went with no representation and we hired an expensive attorney for it and the expensive attorney got everything

01:09:17.100 cleaned up within a month or so and so and this is the unfortunate reality is that you know the it's the

01:09:22.300 expensive attorneys the ones that are actually going to give you an effective prenup that's going to work

01:09:29.100 and you know again if you're if you're just starting out in life and you just don't have the

01:09:33.420 you know sure you might have you know 2500 bucks for it but it if it's going to be anything beyond

01:09:38.060 that um again i haven't had experience so maybe i'm just totally off on that but that's that'd be my only

01:09:43.660 other thought on this it's just the cost is going to be something that is going to be prohibitive

01:09:48.060 prohibitive for a lot of people yeah okay those are good points thanks for calling in yep anytime

01:09:55.820 yeah please do call in again all right

01:10:04.380 up next is dash are you there dash you're on mute dash are you there

01:10:13.660 dash going once dash going twice dash going three times i'm putting you back in the waiting room

01:10:24.220 so i'll try to get you next dash but you're on mute let me see if there's any things on the website

01:10:33.020 i'm sending this to a few people i know that might have input adam aka wingus hello hello hey adam how's it

01:10:42.940 going it's going going it's going very well it's wonderful to talk to you you too where are you calling

01:10:49.100 from i am from uh or i'm calling from charlotte north carolina cool um have you gotten a prenup or do

01:10:57.340 you know anyone that has uh personally from my life experience my father and mother divorced and you know

01:11:05.980 you know when they did my father did not get a prenup and uh i was an orphan growing up i was

01:11:12.620 raised in the church and i think in many ways i think that was a mistake i i think the way that a

01:11:19.260 financial obligation was shifted onto my father i think he couldn't really handle it it was kind of

01:11:26.140 detrimental to his masculinity personally that's what i witnessed we don't talk much anymore but uh yeah i

01:11:31.980 i i don't know i think different people have different life circumstances and formative experiences

01:11:39.980 leading to certain i suppose ideological lenses uh but in my opinion i don't think the government

01:11:45.980 should be at all involved in marriage traditional in any way i think it's not very rational personally

01:11:51.980 and would you get married with a prenup would you consider it um you know i don't want to sit there

01:12:01.660 and make it into a you know measuring my accomplishments kind of thing but personally i would say

01:12:09.980 i would not even get married with a prenup i don't think i would i would ever get the state involved

01:12:15.420 with my marriage personally um you know and i think it's tough because a lot of the

01:12:24.860 the the settlements that emerge from a divorce are based on percent of income

01:12:31.500 and if a person regardless of gender i think has sat there and and acquired wealth after so many years

01:12:40.540 it should be theirs it should go to the children first and it being distributed from a male to a

01:12:48.540 female through some either alimony or child support structure i just think that's not it just seems

01:12:54.380 profane spiritually to me personally got it would you consider getting married at all or i would say

01:13:04.940 i don't have any i think what goes on i live in the city it gets very violent sometimes and i think

01:13:13.820 that's formed my character recently i've walked away from a lot of fights i think people have a sense of

01:13:19.980 self from blood lineage and that's fine i respect that boundary and then some people they'll sit there

01:13:28.060 and say oh well if you don't want to reproduce you're an incel or some other derogatory and it seems to

01:13:34.220 vacillate between those archetypes incel and blood lineage epistemology and in my opinion i would say

01:13:43.980 getting married is a personal decision it's a personal decision and as a person who likes the new

01:13:49.740 testament and enjoys ministry i see it as a deeply intimate decision that's made before a person in god

01:13:58.860 uh and that is my perspective from my lived experience cool well thanks for calling in doug mpa you got

01:14:07.660 anything nope i do not thank you yeah calling any yeah calling any time okay thank you

01:14:16.060 sorry jack didn't mean to over talk you there oh no no no that's uh i didn't have anything to say okay

01:14:27.100 uh let in

01:14:32.220 is it mr j what's going on mr j hey hey he's he's been in twitter spaces how are you

01:14:42.380 good um tell me do you know anyone that's had a prenup or have you yourself had one

01:14:52.060 um yes um my my uh my young you gotta you gotta turn off the audio in your background

01:14:59.740 my bad i got i got background noise my fault my fault how are you i'm good i'm good how are you good um

01:15:06.380 tell me do you know anyone that's had a prenup or have you yourself had one

01:15:11.580 um yes um my my uh my young you gotta you gotta turn off the audio in your background

01:15:18.860 yeah yeah yeah hold on hold on hold on mr j mr j uh you know he's uh trying to learn all this stuff

01:15:23.980 like you got hold on i got you all right mr j when you're ready unmute because the feedback sounded

01:15:36.300 terrible so we want to hear from you but make sure to unmute because it was just looping over and over

01:15:43.020 and over again so i've muted you but if you want to come back in uh unmute do you want to um bring up

01:15:51.020 terrence while he figures out his audio yeah i'll do that all right all right how about now

01:15:59.580 no it's still going yeah yeah just cut him out until he figures it out well we're going to bring

01:16:06.380 you on in like five minutes let's figure it out um yeah guys make sure your audio is not playing in

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01:16:31.660 getting real close parents pop in the house how you doing friend what's up brother terrence how are

01:16:38.620 you i'm doing all right i was at the gym of course how was did you have a good session or what i gotta

01:16:46.780 run off my old fat gut and that's about it happens to the best of us so so enlighten us about this whole

01:16:55.740 prenup thing because like i was saying well prosa and the opening monologue you know the the trad cons

01:17:04.780 are trying to you have religious people trying to sell well get married but all you have to do is get

01:17:10.060 a prenup it's like what so now you have religious trad cons saying hey guys all you have to do to get

01:17:16.620 married is get a prenup just go for it bro go for it so can you dispel this prenup garbage for us please

01:17:23.740 20 20 of prenups shot down like a japanese zero the other 80 that make it to the end um

01:17:33.260 i would say 10 to 15 percent of the time there are uh clauses or things that are removed from the

01:17:40.380 prenup because it's not fair and what have you so i mean uh i've talked to probably a couple dozen

01:17:49.180 guys who had prenups and they they got shot down because they went to in front of the wrong judge

01:17:55.820 and they they lost their asses because a prenup it literally is dependent upon the judge you go before

01:18:04.860 and if he doesn't like prenups or she doesn't like prenups and they just throw them out yeah and what

01:18:11.340 percent of judges are now female oh i don't i'm about to i'm googling it i'm just curious now one one

01:18:21.820 third of women of judges are female so there's going to be more and more female judges to take women's

01:18:29.340 side correct yeah yeah oh my gosh we're 44 percent of this supreme court hell is frozen over oh my gosh

01:18:40.620 41 of federal judges are women 34 of state oh my gosh yep oh god help us

01:18:52.380 that's why men aren't getting married oh yeah let's just hope you don't get you don't get a woman on

01:18:56.380 her period that day yeah and the trad cons out there like i i ripped on uh naggy beard matt walsh i've

01:19:04.700 ripped on um crowder and uh what's his name ben shapiro and i agree with a lot of what they have

01:19:13.500 to say but i am not a fan of a man getting married today based on the laws that are just absolutely out

01:19:24.620 of fucking control there's no accountability for the judges you have lawyers lying on the regular um

01:19:32.860 to you know makes about abuse and what have you to so these women get the automatic wins

01:19:39.500 and even if you complain to the bar they rarely do anything about it i mean

01:19:44.780 it's it's a show what do you think about um they often cite stats that prenups are like 90 effective

01:19:52.220 um bullshit okay you you just don't you don't think they're the studies are honest well from my

01:20:02.220 research 80 of them are effective to a degree 20 of them are thrown out okay and the 80 that make it to

01:20:11.980 the end are literally they remove clauses and parts from the prenum because it's not

01:20:17.740 fair or what have you so yeah i mean there's all kinds of bells and whistles like you got it she

01:20:24.700 has to have her own attorney you have to have your own attorney you got to go through everything

01:20:30.620 it's just a nut roll and it's not worth it

01:20:35.820 nice um do you so the guys that you said you know that got prenups and they got thrown out what

01:20:42.540 states were they in oh let's see two i see several were in new york state uh one was actually in florida

01:20:50.460 which really shocked me um a couple in colorado a large majority in california one in washington state

01:21:01.900 and that's that's that's all i can remember it's usually the blue the blue states are the worst

01:21:11.980 um i mean that's a given and so what happened can you tell me like a story for one of them that

01:21:17.420 happened like what yeah okay a guy was married for about 11 years this is in new york state um three kids

01:21:25.740 he was working i think he was a brewer i don't remember the um the beer company he worked at

01:21:35.340 but he you know he was a a lead brewer so he was making about 120 ish a year with overtime in his

01:21:43.340 compensation package had a prenup and literally they're like okay they they basically threw out a

01:21:52.140 major section of the prenup and then uh the soon-to-be ex-wife was making up um the difference

01:22:02.460 in child support and alimony now i don't think he got hit with lifetime alimony i don't remember but i

01:22:09.100 think it was like seven years and his kids i think the oldest kid was like eight or nine at the time now

01:22:16.060 this is you know a while ago and uh you know in in new york state you have to pay child support up

01:22:23.100 until the kid's 21 and if the kid goes to college you have to pay for that too so he got crushed you

01:22:30.300 know he lost uh he had a pretty big house he lost that he lost a car half his retirement just absolutely

01:22:39.820 crippled him it took him about uh five seven years to recover and basically uh start over

01:22:50.060 that dude's never getting married again you know she played all kinds of games with his kids

01:22:56.060 and uh i mean there's never any repercussions for women that do that

01:23:01.820 on average you have to go to court five times if you're denied visitation before she gets a warning

01:23:08.300 and three to five more times after that before the judge actually does anything about it

01:23:13.420 and each uh time you go to court that's a six to eight week wait so that's two years you have

01:23:20.140 to wait around for the judge to actually punish the the mother of the child wow

01:23:28.700 yeah it's a clusterfuck and i really get mad at these trad cons like yeah just have a prenup get

01:23:34.700 married man up and get married prove your man like fuck off i'm sick and tired of these guys like

01:23:44.060 getting married and then committing suicide when they get railroaded by the system and their ex-wives

01:23:50.140 and even if they do pay the child support they jump through all the hoops they're still

01:23:54.300 called a deadbeat because there's only 24 hours in a day yep you want to stay on and take a oh yeah

01:24:05.980 i'll take questions someone asked what if they put the assets in their parents name have you seen anyone

01:24:12.860 do does that work um to an extent but you have to it has to be done like i think 24 36 months prior to

01:24:23.100 the divorce is filed otherwise they have a case to claw that back yeah i you know i have

01:24:30.460 a strategy i tell guys to use the ga ah and na strategy that's gamblers anonymous alcohol anonymous

01:24:38.460 and narc uh was it narcotics anonymous is if they don't have any kids that way you know six months out

01:24:46.140 you join aa and then you go to a few meetings and then you start having some rough patches

01:24:52.700 then you go to the casino and you take a bunch of money out of the bank and cash and give it to a

01:24:57.900 buddy of yours to hold it and then if they like what happened the money as long as it's done before

01:25:03.500 the divorce is final you can say i have a i have a gambling habit or i i'm an alcoholic

01:25:10.700 that's actually pretty good that's pretty smart she's like i've never seen you drink here's the aa meeting

01:25:17.660 that's right but i've never seen you gamble i kept it hidden i was embarrassed women are horacious uh

01:25:28.460 gamblers oh my gosh we gamble on our on the on men constantly with the drug dealers and criminals that

01:25:37.420 we did sorry who's next dash are you there let you back in bud you're in the chat saying that you're

01:25:46.140 off mute i have you here dash dash going once dash going twice one more second all right buddy i'm putting

01:26:00.460 you back in there putting you back in the waiting room we try all right let's go to scott

01:26:10.220 one second scott is coming in

01:26:14.220 it's joining give it a second well this is is this show strictly on prenups yeah

01:26:23.900 yeah i mean i just i wanted to see people's experience because you always get more than

01:26:29.020 the stats will tell you like i just thought it was so convenient they always quote stats that are from

01:26:34.780 lawyers offices so i'm like yeah if i was a lawyer's office i would like i would say yeah they're like

01:26:41.740 90 percent effective yeah yeah pay me five grand you cannot find independent stats on prenups

01:26:50.540 though and the stats i have are from my own um research that i did when i was going through my

01:26:56.620 divorce and then about a year and a half after okay scott how you doing buddy how you guys doing hey scott

01:27:05.660 how are you i'm doing great so did it's an honor to be on your show with uh the wonderful terence pop

01:27:15.980 yeah he's a legend isn't he legend yeah absolutely i haven't had any experience with prenups personally

01:27:24.860 but i grew up in california and went to private schools and it was very common for all my friends

01:27:30.220 parents to have prenups and you don't really talk about that a whole lot when you're little kids

01:27:35.180 but when people get divorced it does come up and i have never once ever heard a story where

01:27:43.580 the dad was like thank god for that prenup that held up solid

01:27:49.420 never i mean 100 of the time it was a disaster it's uh it's one of those it's one of those like

01:28:02.300 misconceptions that people have where you would expect that you put this legal document together

01:28:09.980 and everybody has this agreement and then when you go to court it's a pretty black and white situation

01:28:16.380 but like terence was saying that's not the case whatsoever and like paul elam says you know these

01:28:23.820 these documents are just a starting point so when you go and sit in the courtroom in front of the judge

01:28:31.260 now you have some piece of like there's one brick on your side that you can start to build a foundation

01:28:42.060 with but that's all it is it's not like you actually have like a solid game plan

01:28:49.660 and they can do whatever they want i have uh

01:28:54.540 a personal history in courtrooms in california i've been in like close to 50 court appearances

01:29:03.820 on various cases i was a wild man when i was young when i was young and uh

01:29:13.580 much like you you'll learn that law enforcement doesn't actually have to know the law

01:29:20.540 they don't actually have to follow the law most of the time so can you define savage when you were young

01:29:27.660 were you like savage like you were slinging seed like a bird feeder or you savage like fighting all

01:29:33.900 the time doing crazy yeah i was getting in a lot of fights i did i i got in a lot of fights and i also

01:29:40.860 had like criminal history where i was involved in like massive weed growing operations before it was even

01:29:49.260 legal and so like i got busted by the i got busted by the feds in 2010 and spent years going to court

01:29:58.780 i had the longest open court case that didn't go to trial in the state of california that did not

01:30:05.420 include a dead body wow well it's good to have goals brother you're gonna swing at a pitch you know

01:30:14.220 what i mean yeah yeah take a fucking swing at it you're gonna be remembered for for something when

01:30:19.820 you leave this earth so that's a plus well and now i'm just like a normal tax paying outstanding you

01:30:26.620 know citizen that goes to bed early and doesn't do anything i don't even speed i'm so like traumatized

01:30:33.180 from being dragged through courtrooms uh but all that to say the judges can really

01:30:41.580 be very flexible and so like what pearl said about if you get a female judge that isn't really sympathetic

01:30:48.940 to your you know position of trying to cut your soon-to-be ex-wife out of your fortune or whatever

01:30:58.460 you're you're cooked yeah good luck trying to appeal that too yeah no that ain't happening

01:31:05.180 and they rotate judges i'm i mean people you're not going to be able to go back to the same judge

01:31:10.380 and plead your case like oh because yeah the same one that drafted it like it might be a different

01:31:17.580 one later right yep i did hear one guy i think it was there's a guy that's made the rounds on some

01:31:25.740 podcasts in maybe in the last six to eight months who's like a dad from i believe texas who's gone

01:31:33.260 through a divorce and his ex-wife is trying to turn his young son into a transformer yeah yeah

01:31:39.420 yeah he came on yeah he came on okay i might i might have seen him on your show but he made a point

01:31:47.260 about getting a prenup where you have this woman sign off her rights to your children even though you

01:31:55.820 guys don't even have any children yet or whatever that will never stand up in court that's what i was

01:32:00.620 thinking but if there was a starting point you want to start at if you're going to get married

01:32:05.420 first of all don't ever get married yes absolutely not i've been married twice it was a disaster both

01:32:12.060 times so you threw yourself two flying cross-body cock blocks he got a he got a born again too

01:32:19.980 i got married when i was 21 and then i got married again when i was 42. all right and both marriages

01:32:28.060 lasted less than two years so like i had a 20-year stretch where i was just hitting home runs

01:32:33.020 constantly and then i blew it man well at least you learned now i mean nobody's perfect right yeah

01:32:40.300 oh yeah i won't get married again you know what i mean like i definitely won't get married again but

01:32:46.620 i can see why people do it and i think i saw your uh show with andrew wilson pearl maybe what was it

01:32:53.660 like a couple weeks ago yeah and uh i i thought that was great i i found myself agreeing with both

01:33:03.660 of you because like my super hardcore christian childhood upbringing wanted me to align with

01:33:10.860 the things that andrew was saying about like you know we want to not just watch the house burn down

01:33:18.860 and say oh the house is burning you got to do something about it and i agree with that but

01:33:23.660 i thought you were a hundred percent when you were telling them like hey man you're not really answering

01:33:30.220 my questions here you're kind of beating around the bush and he just saying just do it bro just do

01:33:36.220 yeah he was kind of sliding and i i i thought it was great that you kind of called him out on that

01:33:40.860 so well they just want to go back to like history and stuff like stuff that happened like a hundred

01:33:46.700 years ago like what am i supposed to it's you know it's cooked it's over yeah and the time's never

01:33:53.900 coming back man or the whole virtuous woman argument you know i was telling pearl i said i said what

01:34:02.060 first off women are they agreed that there's a small percent of virtuous women and then what incentive

01:34:10.220 do women have to be virtuous and stay virtuous and also um behavior women are rewarded for not acting

01:34:19.580 in a virtuous manner now right and also one last piece women preserve the right to change their mind

01:34:25.820 about anything uh in the western society and everyone has to to deal with it everybody yep they can

01:34:33.500 change your mind about anything at any time absolutely yep and what i found is the more i've

01:34:43.020 understood women's true nature the more i i don't hate them for what the things that they do it's like

01:34:54.620 you know i i don't resent them for the things that they do once you understand what's going on and like

01:34:59.500 there's a there's a very kind of sad dynamic where most women almost all not all all but like almost

01:35:06.540 all of them really don't like themselves and uh it can be really dangerous to align yourself with somebody

01:35:13.500 like that and allow them to have any kind of influence over your situation legally in the united

01:35:19.260 states of america it's a massive fucking l you just there's as much as you might want to be

01:35:25.820 like an honorable dude that gets married and has a family and everything have a family don't get

01:35:32.380 married yeah have a family where like you have an arrangement that you can manage but you can't let

01:35:40.220 her move in your house you can't get married you can't go you can't go getting some kind of marriage

01:35:46.220 at the church without a without the state involved thinking that that's going to be a solution that's

01:35:51.500 like a step above a normal state sanctioned marriage you're tripping if you think any of

01:35:57.740 that shit's going to work that is that is that is some soft ass weak ass living in la la land delusional

01:36:05.980 bullshit you cannot play that game anymore in our country and maybe in the future things change

01:36:13.900 i hope the same things that andrew wilson hopes maybe 10 20 30 50 75 years from now like

01:36:22.620 men will have a much more favorable legal standing or whatever needs to happen but

01:36:29.020 i don't imagine any of that going down in any of our lifetimes and uh it would take it would take

01:36:35.340 it would take a civil war for women to give up power yeah yeah like like you said you you're

01:36:44.860 i forget exactly what you said but it was something along the lines of like this

01:36:47.740 shit's really going to have to get bad and kind of burn well well you know if a child is taking

01:36:53.420 something for granted you you take it away from them and women are taking men for granted so men are

01:37:00.940 just going to have to take themselves away that's right um we got a super chat saying prenups are

01:37:06.460 worthless get an irrevocable trust does that work terrence um yes and no okay god well i mean robin

01:37:19.900 williams did that because he was paying uh like somewhere close to two million bucks a year to do

01:37:26.060 two different xyz for permanent alimony and he was getting older and he literally

01:37:33.100 put all his in their irrevocable trust for his children just to protect money for them

01:37:40.460 and that's pretty much the only way that's going to happen uh typically i'm not an attorney but you

01:37:48.300 try you could try some of that irrevocable trust stuff if it didn't exist before the marriage more than

01:37:54.140 likely they will they will penetrate it and rip it up it's very common for judges to to pierce the

01:38:01.820 corporate veil to break all kinds of other you know laws in regards to banking and what have you

01:38:08.780 on the regular and they get away with it because they have immunity

01:38:14.940 um matt says modernity has exposed women's true nature non-virtuous non-monogamous

01:38:20.700 murderous and manipulative history was wrong on its portrayal of women as different

01:38:27.740 well i mean if you look in the bible

01:38:31.900 all of the holy um books not just the bible or the quran or the torah they all warn you about women's

01:38:39.900 nature right all right scott we're gonna move on to the next caller thanks for having thanks for calling

01:38:47.260 scott calling anytime yeah pleasure as always i think we have a woman on the line here let me see

01:38:55.340 sorry everyone impossible in the let's see if this is alexia are you there

01:39:03.580 alexia alexia you're on mute she's on mute make sure you guys are unmuting and turning off the

01:39:18.300 sound in the background alexia are you there alexia going once alexia going twice alexia going three

01:39:27.180 times i'm going to put you back in the waiting room but you i'm going to bring you back up next

01:39:32.300 after the next person so get off mute okay we're going to go back and

01:39:39.660 and then we're going to go to nevermarried.com after that mr j what's up buddy hold on hold on

01:39:46.060 what's going on what's going on am i still getting feedback y'all got me yeah now you're good all right

01:39:51.500 all right all right i apologize i'm glad y'all let me back what's up um what's your experience

01:39:58.380 with prenups have you had one or do you know anyone that had one yeah i definitely know um

01:40:04.300 one person that had one um actually he was my mentor um he was a really he was actually a professor at

01:40:11.820 university of penn i live down here in the um new york new jersey pennsylvania area and um he actually um

01:40:19.660 he how can i put this he wasn't really in the he was very smart very astute guy but he wasn't

01:40:25.900 really pleasing to the eye but the woman that he picked was bad so um he at least was smart enough

01:40:33.740 to know uh yeah maybe i should get this prenup um and he would talk to me about and i was like listen

01:40:39.580 mr j was in the streets at the time so um i was like well i think you should protect yourself

01:40:45.180 because i'm looking at him like yeah i'm looking at you she got you know i mean light light

01:40:49.260 brown eyes she got that it's not making sense huh yeah that that you know a bad chick so and he was

01:40:55.260 you know like he was a really good dude stand up at stand up guy passed away i'm not going to you

01:41:00.220 know say his name but you know shouts out to him you know he was a good mentor for mr j when he was

01:41:04.700 in college kept me on a straight and narrow but um what happened was um he got the prenup after the

01:41:12.460 marriage and when he did that when he went to the um you know the judge after they was getting a

01:41:18.060 divorce the judge basically told him that everything that he had before he possibly could

01:41:24.060 count on him but anything that he had after they got married um you know that that that was um you

01:41:30.780 know community property i guess so to speak so what he did was um like like like i guess the guy

01:41:38.940 earlier said um did he was kind of smart and i didn't know he did this he put um most of the

01:41:44.940 stuff in his sister's name and she's still alive and um they had they you know once he passed away

01:41:53.500 that you know his ex-wife took him to took her to court and kept trying to get the money or whatever

01:41:58.620 and i don't know if that really is foolproof but that was the best way because he was smart enough to

01:42:04.140 know he was you know um you know outside of his game he was you know shooting out his league so he

01:42:09.820 decided okay i know this is a pretty chick i know i'm not a pretty dude i know i'm not an attractive

01:42:15.340 dude but i got money so i'm a high value man however they like to say it and um basically what happened

01:42:21.740 was uh his his wife and the kids got nothing and his sister's living you know great right now so

01:42:30.220 i mean i i'm not saying like you know that's what you should do because i heard the other guy saying

01:42:35.020 um you know uh you shouldn't get uh uh married now he got remarried so and he and even though

01:42:42.140 he said it was like you know you know a couple months or whatever i don't know after i got you

01:42:48.060 know got divorced if i would ever get remarried because it's like um the stuff that she took from

01:42:54.220 me wasn't just financial it you know she took something from me like like a piece of me and

01:43:00.300 when i say that it's like okay i understand you're on some funky ass maybe i'm on some

01:43:05.180 funky ass but we have children we have a house we have a life built together and she was just willing

01:43:10.860 to blow it the hell up and i was like ah and i'm gonna be honest with you mr j is not a crier but mr j

01:43:17.900 went to work one day no two days and cried his ass off but i didn't cry for her because i knew she

01:43:23.660 was funky i cried because she was blowing my family up like or our family i'm not gonna say my

01:43:30.540 like women do women get real selfish with my baby my my my this my day she was blowing the family up

01:43:36.060 so i'm like all right and we have an autistic son uh and it was like bro like you know he need help

01:43:43.500 i don't like he's on you know he's not he's on the high end low end i don't know what it is he's

01:43:48.620 functional but he still needs somebody to take care of him and for her to just roll out on this

01:43:55.820 i mean she's flat out roll and left us like like she went to go have another life and it was just me

01:44:00.940 and my son and i was like well you know he needs you and you know that's what made me i already knew

01:44:09.180 women were selfish but that really took a whole lot out of me i was like wow like the sad part about

01:44:15.820 it is all you hear are stories of how especially us black men abandon their kids and they don't want

01:44:22.860 to but i'm telling you we don't hear enough stories like the one that you're talking about there are too

01:44:29.020 many women who just who just duck out and leave and then the worst part about it is they're fully

01:44:35.180 entitled to try to come back watch give it she tried she tried like like she sent me doing this

01:44:42.060 thing and shout out and thank you pearl because i told her i said listen you you know you're leaving

01:44:46.540 a bad i'm getting ready i don't know if i can curse but you're leaving a bad man i'm getting ready to get

01:44:51.100 on you know with this podcast stuff and i guarantee you i'll make it so appreciate to you pearl because

01:44:58.220 she's been seeing me like um earlier my son had um orientation for he's going to high school and she

01:45:04.220 took him um orientation i was on um with you on with y'all on twitter and when she came in she saw

01:45:11.340 me and i was like look you see her remember i used to watch her on tv i'm talking to her live now

01:45:19.820 yeah so then she looked and she like yeah i'm like yeah uh-huh i told you so appreciate you pearl

01:45:26.060 because women one thing i've noticed do you want me to give her a shout out do you have like a message

01:45:30.620 you want me to say to her shout out to my shout out to my ex erica hernandez erica michelle hernandez

01:45:42.380 yeah i gave a shout out she gonna be mad i was thinking i want to start giving um uh what's it

01:45:47.740 called are they you people pay you to make videos and you can give me i can give a shout out to your

01:45:52.300 ex-wife i'll be cameo yeah cameo and i could be like i heard you sucked as a wife i heard you didn't

01:45:58.780 clean you didn't cook you didn't even i heard you were bad in bed and you know i just want you to know

01:46:04.380 what he's doing yeah i was like i just want you to know he's doing younger hotter and better have a

01:46:09.740 good day i appreciate it that's good stuff i was like i could do a cameo like that good if you was

01:46:17.740 to do that that would be great because like i said she's seen you like she's heard you and she has the

01:46:25.420 um she uh you know that woman uh what is she talking about i don't like when you know women you know that

01:46:32.060 denigrate other women i'm like she's telling the truth so you're mad because she's a woman and she's

01:46:37.420 telling the truth and you know that would this that would really blow her mind i'm telling you

01:46:42.540 that would really blow her mind if i was like there she go remember her yeah is that for real yes

01:46:49.660 say hi pearl and she oh my god that would be one of the best things ever i you know that would that

01:46:54.780 would make my what's it what did you say her first name was erica erica uh-huh i just want you to

01:47:02.300 know um mr j is doing better you know he's on the podcast now and he's dating younger hotter and

01:47:09.500 better in bed than you so i'm very sorry you took an l on this one he's gonna be on he's gonna go on

01:47:15.180 to do bigger and better things you can clip it and also well that's that's a common thing that happens

01:47:21.580 with exes very few of them do better down the road i mean whenever i get a story on my show

01:47:30.940 somebody talking about an ex and like what happened to her and eighty percent of the time

01:47:36.620 you know they don't they don't level up and literally they wind up in a very very bad uh

01:47:43.100 situation down the road well definitely there's a way for me also tell her okay i'm sorry tell her that

01:47:51.660 that your son is going to grow up and know who the hero is and who the villain is

01:47:57.180 he always works because i'm sorry go ahead no because right now um we're dealing with that

01:48:02.940 dynamic because like i said he just turned 14 three days ago four days ago and um she doesn't

01:48:10.700 understand the the dynamic that we had um you know before that when we was all together but now that

01:48:16.540 you left us i mean she rolled out and left us for two years like we didn't know who the

01:48:20.300 this was honestly um and the fact that the bond that we had because he was watching me like damn

01:48:27.900 going through it but dad's still holding it down and it's like like i said my leg was broke but i'm

01:48:32.700 still holding it down he has autism i still got to make sure that he eat every once in a while let

01:48:37.980 me tell you the most humiliating thing that happened to me with her mr j broke his cheek we had she said

01:48:44.460 i'm out and mr j had gotten a car accident and broke his leg and he couldn't um get to the you know

01:48:50.060 to the bathroom to you know to you know to get a basin to watch yourself so um i had to beg her

01:48:57.340 i mean literally beg her to come and help me like my like she got mad at my son because my son like

01:49:04.300 he has the phone and i'm his you know i'm his favorite character so he so i was you know i was i was

01:49:09.900 just i was crashing out and i'm like yo i've done everything for you all i need you to help me do

01:49:14.860 is get a basin you know what i'm saying and maybe wash my back you can't even do that for me and i

01:49:20.220 was cussing her out and it you know that he has autism so everything went into his head and it came

01:49:26.460 out verbatim so he was walking up and down the hallway like cussing her out but it was you know through

01:49:32.540 my voice and she heard it and that was like and she still to this day she says um can you not really um

01:49:39.100 had discussions around your son or our son because he still says things verbatim that you

01:49:44.540 say to me and i was like i can't control what he says he hears what he hears and he knows what he

01:49:50.780 knows he knows you i mean you you know you rolled out and it was just us guys and the cat which i hate

01:49:57.180 i i hate the cat i'm sorry i'm not i hate cats too don't feel bad yeah yeah so so it was so it was just

01:50:04.700 us guys me him and the cat and you know once we once once i got once i got to the point where my

01:50:10.940 leg wasn't broken no more i could move around i was cool but the funkiness of this woman like and i

01:50:18.060 hate to put this all right so after this after she left mrs j she wound up with breast cancer how about

01:50:23.820 that that that's a curveball damn right right now she ends up with breast cancer this is true story

01:50:31.580 so now um she ain't really she doesn't really have anybody else so i could be an and be like die

01:50:38.220 but i'm sorry i didn't mean to say that yeah i couldn't point that way but we have children so i want

01:50:48.140 you to live because mr j lost his mom early you know um i think i was i think did i graduate college

01:50:54.540 yet i'm not sure i think i had just got out of college and you know uh mrs j you know guy rest

01:51:00.220 her soul she had rolled out or whatever so um you know i understand having a mother i'm like are you

01:51:05.900 not being a mother right now but they still need their mother so i you know it was it was mentally

01:51:10.940 exhausting for me because i'm looking at you like but you still the mother of my children so

01:51:18.700 what do you need from me and that was that was like really really really mentally taxing for me

01:51:24.060 and and and i'm and you know i'm it's this is probably the first time i've actually said this

01:51:28.940 out loud because you know as much as mr j you know we talk on twitter likes to talk my personal things

01:51:36.540 i don't like because people like to use those against you especially in popular so um you know like

01:51:42.700 my first baby mom she wanted you know she wanted to let everybody know that we was together

01:51:47.980 so she decided to you know just go out in the street and throw these you know tantrums and

01:51:52.220 everything and you know try to make me come out of character and i'm looking at her like that's

01:51:57.420 not me but i understand what you're doing you're trying to test with the other women and see how far

01:52:02.300 i'm gonna go i didn't go that far with her so she felt some type of way but um but we're gonna go

01:52:09.500 ahead i'm sorry we're gonna wrap it up because we have a couple more people i tend to dominate

01:52:14.860 stuff i appreciate it i appreciate you uh let me in and if you know you know um can i plug my show

01:52:21.820 go ahead all right uh erica watch me work um hello y'all i'm mr j um i i'm the host of the mr j experience

01:52:31.580 uh we come on every saturday friday saturday and sometimes sundays around eight to nine o'clock

01:52:38.300 uh you can like and subscribe my channel all you got to do is see that you know the uh mr j symbol

01:52:44.060 like and subscribe and we we talk about everything like like pearl is more red pill mr j talks about

01:52:50.140 black issues uh i hate to say it like this white issue red pill uh whatever whatever i feel like

01:52:58.060 if i was drinking that day you never know how it might come out but anyway um pearl thanks for

01:53:04.300 calling in calling anytime okay anytime buddy thank y'all thank you thank you all right okay yeah if

01:53:12.060 you guys do a hundred dollar super chat i'll i'll do uh i'll do whatever i'll say whatever to your ex-wife

01:53:19.740 i'll tell her you're doing better you can just screen record it and send it to her

01:53:24.220 the best example i'm so never married are you there yeah i'm here yeah hey how's it going the best

01:53:32.460 example is bezos bezos is an ex-wife is known for her philanthropy all she's known for after

01:53:39.820 leaving jeff bezos is giving away the billions of dollars that she got in divorce so brutal

01:53:49.820 but never married dating how you doing buddy i'm doing pretty good but tonight i'm the second time

01:53:54.780 calling in hope you don't mind me calling into your show i i like i love your show and follow you on

01:54:00.220 ex twitter so i'm talking about prenups tonight and uh saving marriages in general people not getting

01:54:08.140 married um did you have a prenup or do you know anyone that's had one we don't i have i haven't

01:54:16.380 got any of our any of our members have not told us that they had any uh prenups as yet we have about

01:54:22.540 400 members on our website so far on the never married dating and um i encourage them to get

01:54:29.900 prenups uh it'd be helpful if they're going to contemplate you know divorce a lot of marriages do

01:54:34.460 end in divorce and but so many folks are not getting married right now it's a record a record rate and uh

01:54:42.700 it's just uh people not uh americans are uh less even likely to partner up are you even getting married

01:54:51.980 right now a partnership is at a general low there was a social study survey given and they said 30

01:54:58.940 percent of adults from 25 to 54 said they do not have a steady partner so we're you know seeing a

01:55:05.500 trend people are just not dating let alone getting married so it's uh an issue i think people you hear

01:55:12.780 in the news the birth the birth rate uh it's dropping so you know that's that's an issue right there

01:55:20.300 so uh if it really mattered to them they changed the laws to prevent it but they don't i never sent you

01:55:28.460 yeah like change the laws for the um prenup or the marriage in general marriage in general okay

01:55:36.300 yep yeah the comment some people actually they even have uh they don't do so much the common law

01:55:42.620 marriage as much as they used to uh common laws barriers you don't have to get married just hold

01:55:48.460 yourself out as a couple married in some states they recognize that it's called like common law

01:55:53.580 marriage just as a fact of the day i'm not sure people familiar with yeah common law marriage no

01:55:58.460 i've heard of it i wonder how many states that's legal in it's about uh six ish that's about six issues

01:56:07.660 right now i i could be wrong i don't remember that it's not many it says nine you were close all right

01:56:19.740 what states are they uh oklahoma kansas iowa columb district of columbia colorado colorado texas utah

01:56:28.300 iowa what the hell texas oh wow new hampshire pennsylvania ohio rhode island texas utah and

01:56:38.220 there's a couple of states that abolished common law marriage uh georgia idaho iowa and alabama

01:56:45.420 well yep they need to get rid i mean they need to get rid of common law you know across the entire

01:56:54.700 nation yeah that's i thought they probably should yeah and the marriage rate is between 5.1 and 6.3

01:57:03.660 out of a thousand which is the lowest it's ever been since they started tracking that stat shortly after

01:57:09.900 the civil war i found a stat just recently um i was unaware of this that it says uh 26 i'm reading uh

01:57:19.980 reading here online it says 26 of americans age 18 and up did not have sex once the past 12 months

01:57:26.460 american adults said that didn't have sex from up from 2016 it was 23 now it's 26 so i guess people

01:57:34.780 aren't dating and they're not even getting married anymore so yeah i'd say that's accurate

01:57:39.900 they're just getting they're getting ghosted by chad i had a guy on my show the other day he said

01:57:46.380 he goes through 100 girls a year wow whoa that's a little excessive yeah wow no i saw him i saw him

01:57:55.500 i met him at a like a pua boot camp um he like he brought home i saw him bring home like three or four

01:58:01.980 girls in a weekend so he was a lion i was like jesus christ oh yeah he says he ghosts like most

01:58:09.740 of them that's ghosting is awful no it's not doug is pro ghosting no it's not i'm pro ghosting man

01:58:19.260 i'm telling you go what is it you want to know why is it better than her it's better than hurting

01:58:24.060 somebody's feelings correct it's better than just not hurting somebody's feelings they don't want to

01:58:27.020 hear no he doesn't care about those yeah i don't care about that here's the thing women feel entitled

01:58:33.740 modern women feel entitled to everything in the modern day but especially closure they have to

01:58:39.740 know why and then part of the journey of a man is taking l's and accepting rejection see like i said

01:58:47.340 before feminism is women advocating for life to be just as unfair for them as it is for men who did we

01:58:55.500 learn ghosting from women women wanted qualities so ghosting just like they they ghosted you when

01:59:01.980 they were young don't act like women are too good to be ghosted they'll ghost you that's right not

01:59:09.100 only do they ghost you but they basically depth charge your life and reputation at the same time

01:59:15.740 mm-hmm yep ghost yeah all spirit and love and wear buddy all your experience with the two wives that

01:59:26.060 get married twice that sounded like a white experience and a lot of people are going through

01:59:30.220 that kind of experience and it's just it prenup should be accepted and i think even if everybody

01:59:37.900 gets one like you're saying the court won't accept uh all the all the conditions and statements in the

01:59:43.420 and the peanut so yeah well yeah thanks for thanks for your input today yeah that's uh can i plug my

01:59:53.020 uh the never married site a little for five seconds or something sure yeah go ahead it's uh called

01:59:57.580 never married dating it's three words never married dating.com and what i did is i created the website

02:00:04.060 for people that are never married and so if you don't ever want to get married uh you can join it

02:00:09.660 any and anybody's allowed to join it because in today's dating world you can't discriminate so

02:00:14.300 anybody can join it but i say it's the greatest source to find somebody that's never been married

02:00:19.980 and it's called nevermarrieddating.com so far we have about 430 members that joined and it's 100

02:00:27.100 free to join so you don't pay for anything unless you want to send an email so that's you can email and you

02:00:31.740 you can chat both so sure awesome thanks for calling in buddy thanks you too um i would argue that corn

02:00:39.900 stars corn corner prenups were a big was wait i would argue costner's prenup was a big w imagine

02:00:48.220 what she would have walked away with without it yeah yeah that's true she she wanted to get to 240

02:00:55.580 000 a month oh my gosh this women are so important insane okay so we're letting in i can't it's

02:01:05.020 sagans s-g-a-n-h-h-s sagans give me a second it's joining

02:01:12.460 tagans are you there

02:01:19.740 tagans it's s-g-a-n-h-s i don't know how to say that yeah you said it hey how's it going where

02:01:30.060 are you calling from uh new jersey cool so did you have a prenup or you know someone with a prenup

02:01:38.460 your signal's weak you're two by five can you hear me yeah there you are okay sorry i had to

02:01:48.780 turn volume down um uh i personally have never been married uh i tried to call in the show about the uh

02:01:57.180 the daughter subject uh i was the one with the uh technical error oh we need to redo that show

02:02:04.220 actually but but anyway anyway so basically i've been through the ringer of family court more times

02:02:12.300 than i can count and i've something's going on with this signal buddy we can barely hear me

02:02:19.740 can you hear me now yeah i can hear you now all right so i've been through the ringer of family

02:02:26.060 court and i've sat there and been like the last in line to go in front of the judge and i've heard

02:02:32.540 everything under the sun um i can't say honestly prenups are a waste of time because i've literally

02:02:40.700 sat in front of the couple you know with their lawyers on each side talk before they even got in

02:02:47.420 front of the judge and they're like you know to me it sounded like a complete game plan written out

02:02:53.660 and they're like okay we're just going to go and get the judge to smash the devil we're in now

02:02:58.860 and then literally i had to wait four and a half hours your signal is so bad yeah it's so bad

02:03:05.580 only hear you every other word so i i don't know if you want to come out and come back in or something

02:03:10.860 but we can only hear every other word so i i'm gonna drop you out and maybe try coming back okay

02:03:16.140 okay okay i got the same problem with mine too every now and again you get uh bad signals

02:03:26.860 then the um the last caller here is it says zoom user so we'll see it says zoom user you're muted hi

02:03:37.820 hey how's it going good how are you i'm good what is your experience with prenups

02:03:48.140 so i don't have any personal experience with prenups but um i wanted to give my female perspective

02:03:55.980 um if i ever get married i'm completely open to a prenup you know i think for men these days it's

02:04:02.220 a good idea but um i would also expect some protections for myself in that prenup and

02:04:12.300 another thing i wanted to say is that i feel like one thing that's not mentioned here is the women that

02:04:19.260 are forced to stay in marriages because of prenups so you know it could be viewed as a positive or

02:04:26.460 however you want to look at it wait forced to stay into a marriage how does that work not forced

02:04:33.580 but they're you know motivated i'm not you know i feel like some women choose not to leave their

02:04:40.380 marriage maybe if they otherwise would because they don't want to like pay for their lifestyle that

02:04:46.460 their husband pays for yeah and i'm not saying that's right or wrong you know but i feel like

02:04:53.420 people are saying prenups don't work and if you want your marriage to stay together then you know

02:04:59.980 yeah it might not work if you go to court but i think no one's brought up the fact that there are

02:05:05.100 women that will stay with you because there is a prenup in place so what

02:05:13.900 well because of that i do feel like it's a good idea and do you think it's okay for like

02:05:20.700 women to have protections within a prenup um yeah if they both agree to it sure well first of all

02:05:27.420 women enjoy a lion's share of protections from the courts the legal system uh media virtually everything

02:05:36.780 is to a woman's advantage in the current year and i completely agree like i i do think that courts do a

02:05:44.780 lot of the times tend to favor women so that's why i absolutely think it's a good idea but you know

02:05:51.500 what i don't understand how a woman like wouldn't you say that's just entitlement that's like one

02:05:58.220 the girl wanting to have her cake and eat it too if she's staying because her husband pays for her

02:06:05.740 yeah yeah i mean like i'm not saying that's ethical for a woman to do but you know we've i think also on

02:06:13.900 other episodes you've brought up like how women just leave because you know for frivolous reasons

02:06:20.300 for their fitness partner and if you know they have more to lose it does in a way also have the effect

02:06:27.740 of keeping the marriage together so you would argue that women have more to lose in marriage than men

02:06:37.100 oh no absolutely not i'm just saying if there is a prenup in place women do have more to lose

02:06:43.740 and i think that's also why you know they're gonna think twice i don't think they'll think twice

02:06:52.220 if they want to leave um zach says i'm the guys who got divorced because their wives had bad dreams

02:06:59.580 about them

02:07:03.340 zach says zach hold on guys i gotta read a super chat i'm the guy with the tech error while experiencing a

02:07:08.460 tech error too funny stephen hawking had baby mama drama okay go ahead sorry terrence there's actually

02:07:15.260 one more that just came in too if you can read it oh okay she's not happy be um and wants to leave but

02:07:21.420 is forced to stay because the money the husband provides also makes her happy aka i'm happy with

02:07:27.180 your money but not happy with you and have you thought about how those women would treat because i think that

02:07:35.820 these women honestly i think that you kind of said something true there where these women feel like

02:07:41.260 they're being forced to leave no forced to stay instead of doing what's hard and and leaving and

02:07:48.780 finding the and paying for their own way but could you imagine how horrible they treat the man if they

02:07:55.180 feel like they're being forced to stay because of his money yeah and i'm i absolutely i'm not defending

02:08:03.180 women that do that and i agree that you know courts tend to screw men over but you know the woman that's

02:08:10.540 going to divorce a man over a bad dream might think twice about it if um you know she has a while more

02:08:17.980 to lose because of a prenup and whether that's a positive or a negative you know that depends on how

02:08:24.940 you want to look at it um so you would be fine with let's say what's your age range are you like

02:08:34.220 late 20s early 30s i just hit 30. so let's say you you met a guy 35 he's literally you know a engineer

02:08:47.980 you know about to get into the the best earning years of his life and you guys have been dating for

02:08:53.900 three four years you met his family he met your family and he says look i want to marry you but

02:09:00.860 i have to sign a prenup how that conversation go and would you hold it against him no i would not

02:09:07.500 at all and but there would be things i would want depending on how much because okay if i in an ideal

02:09:15.260 world i would like to have the ability to be a stay-at-home mom because i feel like it is for the greater

02:09:20.300 good of the children and i don't know in the ideal world obviously i know this is like

02:09:26.380 privilege to ask for and whatnot but if i'm gonna stay home and it's probably not gonna happen just

02:09:32.140 statistically just so you know i know i do realize that it's like 15 of women get that okay but in an

02:09:38.780 ideal but some are by choice you know like also some women don't want to i but i do agree that especially

02:09:45.500 with me being 30 at this point it's not exactly looking great for me but i would like and just

02:09:52.780 reasonable amounts like if i stayed home from work and then we get a divorce then uh you know i'm not

02:10:00.620 saying like 50 percent of his salary or anything like that but you know if we and maybe we can see

02:10:08.700 the way so you think you'd be like you should be compensated for staying home for him like allowing

02:10:14.460 you to stay home with the kids well you do take a certain career you know break and yeah but you

02:10:23.580 have like a decade to save like you've had i mean you're 30 so you've had like 15 years to you know

02:10:30.460 save and prepare for this for my divorce no to stay home with kids you know like i mean you'll push out

02:10:37.420 maybe two yeah i mean like yeah if that's even in the cards for me we'll see like obviously if i have

02:10:43.580 to work and we have to put the kid in daycare or you know different story but i think if it is a

02:10:49.260 situation where i'm i mean i'm just saying it's it's a privilege that only 15 percent of women get

02:10:54.620 and you think you should be paid for it when he's like allowing you to live if anything you should pay

02:10:59.420 him you're living rent free and then we're falling into the unpaid labor baloney i was just

02:11:05.180 about to ask that do you believe in that unpaid labor concept because you you see these articles

02:11:12.540 where a housewife if you were paid a salary she should be paid 250 000 a year do you believe in that

02:11:20.460 concept yes or no uh definitely not to the tune of 250 000 but um i actually see them more get screwed

02:11:32.220 over when they do work because i do feel like and i'm i'm like i said i'm not a feminist i'm not

02:11:37.900 arguing like against your guys's you know a point of like men getting screwed over but i do think

02:11:45.420 sometimes i see women getting screwed over when they go to work and then they're still expected to do

02:11:50.060 all of the domestic duties or it's kind of frowned upon so but if you think about it

02:11:56.220 think about the jobs men work and the jobs women work women want to want to take away the domestic

02:12:03.500 labor when men are the ones breaking their backs outdoors they they work jobs that that would

02:12:09.900 literally stress them out and kill them like if your husband is a freaking a lawyer and you're a you

02:12:17.740 know and you're a secretary you know if he's making two hundred thousand dollars a year and you're making

02:12:23.180 40 000 he your job is is the domestic labor but we have the same like women think that no matter how

02:12:33.180 much money they make it removes them from the domestic duties and that's not true men work longer hours

02:12:40.540 more stressful jobs in in stem fields and women still get degrees in freaking underwater lesbian studies

02:12:49.020 and freaking work social work jobs it's not the same we're trying to paint all work as equal most

02:12:57.260 women don't work with the kind of jobs that men have to work to support that their families

02:13:02.940 so what you're trying to refer to are known as dud jobs which is the dirty uncomfortable and dangerous

02:13:08.460 jobs and i 100 agree i haven't really had experience dating anyone with a dirty job like that uh and no

02:13:17.500 shame you know i you know i'm open to whatever but i and i agree men go like risk their life at work

02:13:26.140 compared to women but i have 90 percent of workplace deaths are men but also like in this day and age

02:13:33.180 the reality is that women in my age group a lot of the times are out earning men not you know so much

02:13:39.820 but it is more common and i have seen it where the woman is how much do you make a year or more how much

02:13:45.020 do you make a year i i don't make a ton you know like i'm not saying this would be the case for me

02:13:49.340 and i would realize that but i see where women are making like 80 her husband's making 90 and

02:13:55.900 or no vice versa she's making 90 he's making 80. but he's but it's like a it's a privilege

02:14:01.500 like i don't i don't understand why you're entitled to more money when someone's allowed you to live at

02:14:06.620 home rent free and be with your kids and pay for him to stay home you know like if you don't like it

02:14:12.060 don't have kids yeah why would you why would you have children if you like like if you're not willing

02:14:18.300 to sacrifice anything to have them like why have them then just don't get your tubes tied

02:14:25.740 uh okay i and then i'm gonna bring it with one other thing so uh at my day job you know there's a

02:14:33.980 lot of i was working in an office where there's literally baby rabies for like one of the women

02:14:39.420 got pregnant and then all the women around here got pregnant and these were women with advanced

02:14:45.180 degrees you know working for all these health care models and stuff and these women they go out

02:14:51.900 on maternity leave and they come back a changed person i met women that would be in the office 60

02:14:58.060 70 hours a week and then they have a kid and now they they barely want to do 40 because they have

02:15:03.980 their child and you walk by their desk and you see them just look at their at their monitor monitor

02:15:10.140 like why am i here why am i not at home with with my child right and there's actually a growing part

02:15:18.300 of therapy where these boss women regret missing the younger years of the children your job is always

02:15:25.020 going to be there but your kids are only going to be young once right yeah once your kids are grown up

02:15:30.300 it's over you have a lot of these professional women who who had to put their child in daycare

02:15:37.020 for some job that ultimately doesn't care about them and they start going to therapy over this mom

02:15:43.260 guilt because they missed the children's formative years it's a real thing i just i mean put yourself

02:15:49.100 in the guy's shoes if you allowed your husband to stay home and you paid for him to just exist and watch

02:15:55.020 the kids you think on top of that if you guys divorce he should be entitled to your money that

02:16:02.300 you just paid for him the last five years or that almost never happens pearl i i know i know it's never

02:16:09.500 going to happen but i'm saying like if i was in a guy's shoes i would be pissed go ahead i had potential

02:16:16.940 to be a higher earner than a man which you know i feel like the odds of that are low but let's say i

02:16:24.060 had some specialized non-pointless degree um i like maybe i could um we can't keep him at home and i do

02:16:35.420 feel like if he took a step away from his career for five years because i do believe kids do best with

02:16:40.940 someone at home and not daycare you know so if i had all this earning potential and kept someone at

02:16:46.220 home i am also willing to have the opposite in the prenup and i mean obviously statistically that's

02:16:52.220 unlikely but oh boy you see the value dustin says let's be real if she has this idea at 30 won't be

02:17:00.300 a stay-at-home mom she'll just be a stay-at-home woman uh steve she can start an etsy page not an

02:17:06.780 only fans page from home well thanks guys well yeah i just

02:17:16.860 i mean i really don't disagree with you guys on a lot like i think absolutely men get screwed over

02:17:22.220 and these guys that are paying like 70 000 dollars do you know any women that had a prenup or men

02:17:29.980 i've known you know like my friend's cousin you know stuff like that but i think was it held up or

02:17:38.460 no in court it was it held up or like did they divorce or no they didn't divorce okay cool uh but

02:17:49.020 yeah i as far as i know i mean i and my ex told me like we're gonna sign a prenup and i or you know if

02:17:57.980 we ever got married we would sign a prenup and i was cool with that so i'm not i have one last

02:18:03.820 question so so what kind of protections would you want because at the beginning of the show we showed

02:18:10.300 this woman who literally tried one of her friends put in a prenup that she gets a housekeeper and she

02:18:17.340 gets all these different things if she gets divorced for from her husband in perpetuity and it's like

02:18:23.580 wait what i don't know if those are unrealistic but what kind of protections would you need

02:18:27.660 in a prenup well i think it would just really be dependent on you know if i stayed at home and if

02:18:36.060 not and it would not be to the tune of like someone's half of their salary or anything like that

02:18:42.940 you know i mean i would say up to 15 and that's if like he really wanted me to be a domestic stay

02:18:50.140 at home mom you know because then at that point like i feel like and we could like sign an agreement

02:18:55.660 every three years like we both still want me to stay home and if he doesn't want to sign that then

02:18:59.900 i'm going back to work you know okay what would be the difference in your marriage dynamic and your

02:19:06.060 mindset in marriage with a prenup and without one or would it be the same

02:19:11.340 um i feel like it would be with the same because i i honestly understand why men would want to do it

02:19:20.060 they hear horror stories i've heard them and i i don't hold it against them you know i

02:19:28.700 um yeah i mean i that's what i like to think but i don't know if in the moment you know it would

02:19:36.060 make me feel a certain kind of way but all right yeah cool well thanks for calling in feel free to

02:19:43.580 call back in anytime okay even if you disagree i do i do enjoy having um callers so feel free okay

02:19:50.700 i want to say shout out to alexia she paved the way when i saw that she called in i was like you

02:19:55.180 know what another female caller let's go cool anyways thanks have a great night thanks you too bye

02:20:00.620 then the last caller is just the other life yeah i i tried to bring alexia on but she didn't uh

02:20:12.380 yeah just the other wife how you doing hey how's it going thanks for having me how are you um where

02:20:19.660 are you calling out of uh south dakota cool um what's your experience with prenups

02:20:27.100 not necessarily a prenup but more of a relationship contract so one of my customers he is with his uh

02:20:37.820 he calls her wife but legally they're not and we're not in a state that recognizes uh marriage without a

02:20:45.900 license so without being said their contract is now for over 20 years and they renew it every three years

02:20:57.660 wow so what yeah so they sit down with attorneys every three years but at the same time he was a

02:21:05.020 billionaire before he got together with her oh wow so yeah yeah and uh another thing is that

02:21:17.180 what he told me at least that's what he told me uh that he

02:21:21.500 uh when he met her she didn't know who he was he was just a guy on an old pickup

02:21:33.580 that barely runs with the manual transmission that barely works and that's how she knew him and then he

02:21:41.180 offered her like hey let's make an agreement would you do that and she's like yeah why not i don't care for

02:21:48.060 her marriage license and that's when he pretty much reveals who he actually is and because he had to do

02:21:54.940 pretty much the whole financial audit and everything before they got together

02:22:00.060 wow and it's i mean you just randomly you just randomly know a billionaire

02:22:08.140 well i pretty cool i'm in an energy sector so i have to deal with people

02:22:12.860 and uh a lot of them you know i had to service multi-million dollar houses and stuff like that

02:22:24.380 so yeah cool and now yeah working with the energy sector i see quite a few different pictures i see

02:22:32.940 big people breaking up and men being raped over the coals at the same time like in my neighborhood

02:22:40.620 we have women's shelter where uh pretty much we're all told in the neighborhood like guys

02:22:49.100 if you see noise over there you gotta run there and help and all that stuff i'm like nah i'm not doing

02:22:53.580 that cool so he did um a contract that renews every three years and it worked for him because

02:23:01.260 she didn't know who he was before and she agreed to it before she even knew about his money

02:23:08.780 not necessarily no she agreed to have a contract but not sign it before she knew who he actually was

02:23:16.140 so he pretty much i guess tested the ground or tested the waters so to say of to see if this woman

02:23:25.980 actually cares about marriage because that was his check if this woman is in it for money or if she

02:23:33.980 is in it for something else it says zach says so the dude entered into a renewable partnership hey yes

02:23:41.980 it's more stable than marriage yes and uh the agreement was actually there's few things that they

02:23:50.220 uh had to follow is one of their points is that they have to do everything possible to be together

02:23:57.580 until the youngest child is 18 years old got it so there's quite a few things there's uh things like

02:24:06.220 who does what in the house like for example who is responsible for things like taking out the garbage

02:24:13.980 who's responsible for things like repairing something in the house who's responsible

02:24:19.020 for whatever the detail is it's all in that agreement and that's why it's been used every three

02:24:24.860 years so that way they can add or remove things got it cool yeah and uh from what i understood that's

02:24:32.300 what gets upheld contractually way higher because it's renewed it's been modified over time everybody

02:24:39.580 on same page all the time because most people what they do with prenups they sign in once and forget

02:24:47.260 but times change needs change people change uh laws change so you have to renew update and stay on top of it

02:24:56.620 okay cool okay cool thanks for calling in that was really interesting yeah absolutely so calling any

02:25:05.500 calling any time okay absolutely sure will that's everybody cool thanks guys this is a lot of callers

02:25:13.740 today this is a great um doug mpa would you do that a contract renewed every three years

02:25:23.660 uh i wonder how much that costs in legal fees oh god yeah he does have a billion dollars to spend

02:25:31.260 yeah because like you know that lawyer is like yeah why don't you come in every couple of years

02:25:35.020 and give you give you another 40 grand or something i just feel like that costs a lot of money a lot

02:25:41.740 but you know i mean if i had the resources i guess but yeah you don't want to just blow your money on

02:25:47.500 that huh yeah that's not an option the less money we give to lawyers the better off we're going to be

02:25:52.220 terrence what did you think uh well i'm gonna be honest um i am just 100 anti-marriage in the

02:26:01.500 current environment there's no workarounds until we're willing to uh change the laws and put in some

02:26:09.820 mechanisms to make it fair it is so one side men are dying over this

02:26:14.860 a much if you ever wonder why there's so many homeless men out there a lot of them are made

02:26:21.820 homeless by the system and never ever get out from underneath the boot of the government

02:26:29.820 that's true it's true all right well um any final thoughts you guys

02:26:36.220 marriage is a bad deal for men guys average man don't get married you know and then

02:26:46.380 i don't care what anybody says most women i say 90 will get upset if you ask for a prenup

02:26:51.020 yeah they try to kill you yeah it's the same as if you were to ask for a dna test it's the same

02:26:57.660 thing you ask for it and then she's gonna hold it over you for the rest of the time that you're with

02:27:01.740 her and that you know her it's the same thing with asking for a prenup it's the same thing yeah i am

02:27:08.700 i learned a lot today thanks for calling in guys um like the video on your way out and subscribe

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JustPearlyThings - May 28, 2025

Will Prenups Save Marriage？ (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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