Woke Woman Gets Called Out On Her BS
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the controversial issue of transgender women in team sports and how to deal with it. We discuss the difference between being transphobic and not being a racist, and how we need to change our language in order to be able to communicate with people that have a different gender identity.
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Yeah, but do you want to win or do you just want win? I'm just way like what?
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These are my options. Okay, I could I could say it nicely. They're still gonna do the same thing or I have to live with their delusion
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I have to use their language. I have to I have to
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Have them in my bathrooms and I have to play with them in sports. Is it really delusional to call them trans women?
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They're still not cis women. They're not biological women. I would say if we're having them
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If we're having if we're pretending that there's something that they're not which I would say it is women
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Dude that transitioned to a woman. Sorry. I would say even though they got the surgery even though they're dressing like it
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They're still not women. No, but they're trans women
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But but when you're trying when you put them in our bathrooms, it's like now I have to pretend and act like it's normal
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No, you don't have to do anything. It's up to you
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Because this is what I would do if if a man walked into my locker room
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I would go get the manager and say get him out, but I can't do that now
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I've been I've been tattling on this. Yeah, I've been tattling on on parties, you know, so my neighbor throws a party
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I'm calling you know what I mean, that's I'm not the food's bad. I'll get the
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But so now I have to do a different behavior based on them
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Based on how they're dressed. We don't have to but i'm just saying as someone that knows you
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I'm like do you want to actually have success and get somewhere then that's what I would do
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But you don't have to do that. I'm just saying do you want to actually make change and say hey
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It's not cool for transgender women to be in team sports where there's they have advantage for x y and z
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Like if you want to get somewhere you kind of have to adapt at least a little bit. No, there's no winning
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You don't argument sounds like your argument sounds like blackmail. Yeah, how am I blackmailing? No, it does
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It does sound like blackmail what you're saying. Yeah
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What you're saying is that we have to in order to be okay with trans
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Trans women and trans men we have to change our language. We have to like
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No, you don't have to be okay, and you don't have to change your language
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Communicate with other people that have this the way that they are we'd like to be fair
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Even I think like calling a trans woman a man is transphobic
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If you want change use my language if you want if you want us to do what you want you have to use my language
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We're being forced. Okay, so what is being transphobic right?
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It's this it's as similar as being I don't know racist you're using inappropriate language
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It's a type of prejudice and you can't just kind of ignore this
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As you're trying to engage with other people on the other side to make actual progress
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But the thing is I don't care what you do do it do what you want
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But again, it's when you force your opinions on me
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But the thing is that's my problem. I think you have a good argument like I do think within
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Team sports for women for cis women biological women whatever there are some like
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Advantages trans women would have which probably makes it unfair
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So for me the sad part is that I feel like you're approaching the argument wrong because I think you have a good point
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But it's lost in the language and it's disregarded because people just write you off as being transphobic
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Yeah, I mean you can feel that way but at the end of the day like it's
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It's not really how I feel like I don't give a fuck
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But you know it's very funny how her argument is very one-sided because she says we um
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Just because the transgender people don't like what we say they disregard it
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What the transgender people are saying to make them feel comfortable
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Just so they can feel comfortable so it's a very one-sided
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Firstly it does happen the other way around like we
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You're already calling them delusional xyz like you do disregard
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To be fair all human beings on the planet are delusional in one way or another
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If you do not accept that then you are the problem usually
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Can you can you look at it from my point of view i'm a young person right and growing up
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There wasn't anything to do with trans like it's a very new thing
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It's very very new to understand how trans people are like have become if that makes sense
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So it is very hard for someone like me to now track like change my language and say they
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And then I find it very perfect. I think if you have a good intention, it doesn't matter too much
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Would you would you guys think about people that are religious that you know, they've been raised and their religion
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Obviously goes back for a very long time and a lot of people still i'm so i'm muslim
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Accepting new terms for you know, like I just I just don't think I'd ever do it
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I think it's fine if you don't want to accept things, but also you're not really gonna be able to engage in arguments if you're not
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The point of arguments and debate is you're trying to meet someone in the middle so that you can have a conducive
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You can't you can't engage in an argument unless you engage it in the way that I think is right
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That's basically what you're saying. No, you need to meet people in the middle
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Not unless she is forced to use language that she's not comfortable using
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But she just said there's religious do you think there's any difference between okay, but we could talk about religion
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Like any difference at all like can we not just use it because it's confusing af if we don't say transgender women and so
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I think it's I think it's more confusing when you add it all
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But it's not like men men are trying to compete with women in sports or men men are trying to like turn off in our bathrooms and stuff
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It's there has to be a differentiation or the composition is fucking confusing
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No, no, I say the men that like they're trying to be women. That's how I would say it
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Well, they are trying to be women or transitioning into women
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I would say I would say trying because you you can't do it
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Yeah, but transitioning they physically can't do it. That's the thing
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Some biological women have problems doing that. Yeah, and that like like I said earlier that doesn't make them any less of a woman
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Yeah, some men cannot impregnate their sperm for whatever reason has this but the difference is trans people can never do it
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That's never that's fine. That's fine. How many people how many heterosexual people?
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Have had children transgender women don't raise that properly. How many how many how many I'm sure I'm pretty sure every single transition
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I'm pretty sure every single transgender person on the planet
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Was born from a heterosexual man and women just because someone is born man and born a woman
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It doesn't give them the right to be parents. Do you know much?
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F stuff happens because of men and women having kids
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so much so much stuff happens like I haven't seen one case so far
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Where there's been a lgbt couple that's had a child child and they've become a mass murderer
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I'm in schools all of the stuff that you all of the crazy stuff that happens in the world
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I don't understand like what all the issue is with
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You know transgender people when there's a lot of crazy stuff that goes on in the world
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That's not from transgender or lgbt the lgbt community
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But i've told you my issue my issue is that again, they're forcing us to live in their delusion
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But it's their peaceful community that lgbt community is a very peaceful community
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Okay, so if they want to do their thing in their community fine, I don't give
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But the issue is when you got men coming into my bathrooms men coming into my sports
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Men coming into women's spaces and forcing me to pretend that they're women
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But that's your prejudice and that's the battle
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You you have to go through that yourself. That's something that you're gonna have to come through
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I don't know if there's been people that have felt the same way about people of different races
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You know, you know people that have got different disabilities
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It's to do with it's literally to do with the transition of a
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Do you know what I think they would feel the same way if I said I am now black
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And now I would like all of I would like to be the head of the black student union
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I would like to be the head of all these things
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Yeah, and they would have to pretend that I'm black and guess I think and I think that that's the only equivalent
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Yeah, that's right. And you know what maybe in 50 years time. We'll see what science does
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If they make a way for that to happen, we can have another conversation
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Sex doesn't or it already doesn't exist on a binary there aren't to sex people
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There are people that have genetic differences that does fall out of XX and XY
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So it's there is already reasons for why we see things a little bit differently
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If you look on a DNA level those classes of people are classed as abnormal
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It's an anomaly. It's not natural. It's not like a normal thing that happens
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Do you know what genetic differences always used to lead to in the past?
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Yes, and there are genetic differences that have led to devolution
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But the point is by natural selection there are people that have existed
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that were not um that did not fit into the normal binary system
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and things like that have been like natural selection takes care of things like that
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Naturally, but human beings because of technology because of all these advancements
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Hermaphrodites as they were called and we now call them
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Differently have existed since the dawn of time
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If you have to leave everything to nature and take science out of it and leave everything to nature how we're designed
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Transsexuals or whatever would eventually die out if you had to leave everything to nature and human beings weren't going to tampon
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You're talking about nature and how many species are there on this planet
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Where an individual specimen can change its gender that happens in nature
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Yeah, but those are about design human beings are not designed to do that
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They can't change their nature through their mind
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There is one very weird example of a woman becoming pregnant by herself
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But the thing with genetics is things are weird and we we do
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Wait, there is a woman that got pregnant by herself
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Wait, were you guys following her making sure that she didn't go and inseminate herself?
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Just as how twins can like eat each other and then they have a different