In this episode, we talk about the dating market and how women are the prize and men are the dumpster fire. Do you think women should date up and men should date down? Do you agree or disagree with these opinions?
00:00:00.040Do you guys think that women date up or down? Up. I think depending on age. Okay
00:00:07.080so then what do you say up? I say up. Would you guys say up? Yeah. So how can we say women are the
00:00:14.520prize if they date up and men date down? That's a good question. That's a great question. You know
00:00:19.420that's an amazing question. I feel like the generation we're in now uh-huh I feel like
00:00:25.200everybody just has to date up because no no everybody can't. Someone's reaching every
00:00:33.600relationship someone likes the other more. Exactly. Someone's reaching someone's
00:00:37.200settling. Yeah. Okay go ahead. Personally I genuinely feel like where we are in this
00:00:41.580life here everything is so difficult. Yeah everything is getting worse and worse
00:00:46.560up. It's not check your friend zone. Wow that was a good one. It's not yeah. But I feel like a lot of my guy
00:00:54.240friends are compatible as friends and I'm not and I don't want to lose that. No no
00:00:57.900no you're not attracted to them like that. You like the attention. No I'm
00:01:03.180definitely attracted to some of my guy friends I just wouldn't want to go there.
00:01:06.120Would they want to go there with you? Possibly. However I just know that the
00:01:11.040boundaries and I'd rather I treasure the friendship I'm not I'm not trying to do
00:01:13.620that. Yeah yeah. Because more time if relationship ends up bad I've lost you as
00:01:16.680a friend. Yeah. And as that and if I value the friendship I feel like. But it can end up
00:01:20.280good. What the relationship? Happily ever after. That's the risk isn't it? Sounds quite
00:01:24.400pessimistic. Do you really see yourself having a lot of male friends once you
00:01:27.840get married? Is that really healthy? Oh no no no. That's not healthy. That's not healthy.
00:01:31.280It might end anyway. So what's the point of having them around? No but I just feel like
00:01:35.520I'd like in this day and age that you have I feel like a lot of people are mad. So what
00:01:40.980do you what do you what do you see as the problems in the dating market? The
00:01:43.800problems in the dating market I feel like everything has become so what can I get
00:01:48.560what can I get materialistic? And I feel like people aren't looking at character
00:01:51.740anymore. Do you think that's the men or the women? I think it's both. So you think
00:01:55.460it's the men? I feel like women have become this which means that the men don't
00:02:00.560even care anymore. It's like you want me for maybe materialistic things. Quite a
00:02:05.120few women so it's kind of like if that's all you look at me for then all right
00:02:08.780cool I'll take you your sister your auntie and then what do you could you
00:02:11.900explain that more? Okay so what I mean by that is there's a lot of guys who let's say
00:02:15.920faithfulness was something that let's say 10 years ago was key. Right now in
00:02:20.660this generation it's like nobody cares or quite a few people don't care if the
00:02:23.900guy's faithful or not as long as he's looking after them. So you've got a lot
00:02:26.720of men who maybe they were faithful growing up now it's like I don't even
00:02:29.900need to be faithful because I can get the 10 or the 12. Is that the fault of the men or the
00:02:33.160women though? That's what I'm saying it's the fault of the woman. Yeah yeah I agree with you. Oh yeah sorry I genuinely believe it's the fault of the women.
00:02:37.920It's like if you hand them a silver platter why would they not take it? And why do I need to be
00:02:42.660faithful spiritual distance if you're not even required? So why did you say women are the prize then?
00:02:48.900Because when you're growing up like I said from a young age you're pretty you're this you're that. I think when you get to a certain age you need to understand
00:02:55.660you need to understand the flower of your youth. When it's finished darling understand it's finished.
00:03:00.660However I feel like um naturally and you're you're taught today up because I just feel like
00:03:06.660he just needs to be the head of the household if that makes sense. So the head would mean he's up.
00:03:11.220Yeah so then he would be the prize. Yeah but that's what my answer was when you get to a certain age I
00:03:15.700feel like it flips. What age roughly? Me okay I think let's say 25 and up. 25 and up. 25 and up. I think after high
00:03:23.940school I'll be honest. No I agree with you. What do you think? I think I think men are always the prize because because the
00:03:30.020women the women that men want like 50 percent of women that hit 30 are single and childless.
00:03:36.100So so the most do you think men understand they're the prize from young? I think I think the small
00:03:40.820percentage of men do when they have when they have at their doorstep like from from the time they're
00:03:46.820from the time they're kid you know because it's only a very small percentage of men that get that
00:03:51.700and then you know the the women like the women that won't settle and I think they're gonna just
00:03:58.580gonna die alone. No seriously because yeah and they won't have kids and but fulfill their biological
00:04:05.380imperative. So you have to compromise right? Yeah I mean yeah but this is the thing like we compromise
00:04:11.700where it always benefits us and never benefits the men because when we compromise it's like at 30.
00:04:16.500Literally. Literally. And that's not what men want. It's a question clearly yeah. When you talked about
00:04:21.220the dating market do all the women on the panel believe that women are the problem with the dating
00:04:25.780market? No they contribute. They contribute 100 percent. They contribute because there's one can I just
00:04:31.860say this? Yeah grab. There's more women on the market in the dating market and how I would put it is
00:04:37.540everyone so a lot of women say they're the prize but they don't act like a prize so they're readily
00:04:43.380available if you're available to 25 men how are you a prize you're readily available I put it like
00:04:49.620this if you have a Rolex they don't advertise Rolex you know the value of it if you see a Ferrari they
00:04:55.940don't advertise that you know the value of it if you're on socials dating apps advertising yourself
00:05:01.940with no clothes you know trying to get male attention are you really a prize? But what that sounds like to me
00:05:07.860that sounds like a cognitive dissonance to me so like you think of one thing but you're not the
00:05:13.380other so that still goes back to the fact that women are potentially the problem in the dating
00:05:17.860market because of this delusion that they they carry I'm the prize yeah I deserve this and I deserve
00:05:22.580that yet really I'm not actually the prize like how can you be a prize at all if you're a virgin if
00:05:27.140you're not a virgin if you're not so much no I'm saying like back in the 19 in the 1950s like like
00:05:35.700you were a hoe if you if you slept with like two people I think men nowadays would pray for two
00:05:42.500and so it's like like what how are you a prize if you're not a virgin and so you're well the first of
00:05:48.020all that sorry the social parameters have changed okay we know this and we're acknowledging that's the
00:05:53.300case here in this but men haven't changed just because the social parameters have changed but
00:05:57.460the thing is the social the social parameters have changed to appease women and so so met but men have
00:06:02.420remained the same they want the same things women have changed no but as I said the social parameters
00:06:08.180have changed so the social parameters for men have changed and the social parameters for women have
00:06:13.060changed what do you mean what do you define social parameters so for example materialistically
00:06:18.660men are supposed to still provide be able to provide at a higher rate and at a faster rate
00:06:25.060from a younger age this is a social parameter change it's not realistic it is set out by women
00:06:30.980i agree but with the women with the ladies now a lot of us we have a materialistic approach
00:06:37.300to how we view men and when they can't provide that we get upset we don't actually look at like
00:06:43.580what you said the characteristics the moralistic values we don't look at actually when i look at
00:06:49.580this man do i see family because a lot of people they're they want uh financial benefits but they
00:06:57.420don't actually want family what does that make women the problem then yeah because men are the
00:07:02.460same like if anything more is expected of men as less is given to them because no go ahead go ahead
00:07:09.020i think that um we're getting married a lot later in life and that's you know part of it
00:07:15.660so like for example maybe 50 years ago getting married at age 16 to 18 might not have been a big
00:07:22.700deal whereas now when a when a a young woman wants to get married at 21 it's like are you ready for
00:07:29.820this you know have you finished uni yeah have you traveled there's there's so much that women are
00:07:35.340doing that they weren't doing 50 years ago that they're doing now and it's it's affecting the the
00:07:40.220age that people get married so that's gonna make women the problem yeah oh i never i never said women
00:07:47.020did you not say that they were the prize i said we're the prize when we're younger oh yeah yeah before
00:07:52.62040. and i'm curious have i heard much from you what do you think because i don't agree okay i feel like
00:07:58.220men are the problem okay tell me why tell me why because i'm young isn't it so i'm just thinking when
00:08:05.740i was younger women were always the one um more involved in the relationships men were always the
00:08:13.100one cheating treating the women wrong so that now i'm 21. all of us are tired at the age of 21. why did
00:08:20.780you pick them if you if you if women hate being cheated on why'd you pick the ones that cheat girls
00:08:27.980know you know early on that they're gonna cheat on you you know you know damn well what you know you
00:08:31.740know you know you know uh you know damn well you know damn well that that guy is capable of cheating
00:08:37.180so how that's how's that on him when you picked him do you know what after i finished with the guys
00:08:42.220that cheat i was not like let me go to a nice guy yeah but now you're but now you're a leftover for him
00:08:46.780oh but i was only like 18. look i'm not i'm not saying i'm just saying that's how men view it 18.
00:08:54.300i don't know i'm not gonna ask like what i'm just saying like i'm saying this is common so so you're
00:08:59.580young but i'm saying this is common where girls will go through the bad boys and the cheaters until
00:09:03.100they're 27 28 and then come to the nice guys who they've been rejecting the last decade right and
00:09:08.380saying take me oh i'm ready for you and they're like well now you're your chad's leftovers
00:09:14.220and i hate that but it's like how is that on them when we pick them because one out of three
00:09:20.060men are either virgins or haven't had sex in the last year so there's a lot of men that won't cheat
00:09:23.900on you you just don't want them look at me go look at your friend zone or go to go to you guys don't
00:09:34.620have talk do you guys have taco bell here you do go to go to taco bell ask the guy out behind the
00:09:39.260counter i bet you he won't cheat on you come on go ask him out