JustPearlyThings - July 02, 2023


Woman Narrates The Saddest Abortion Story EVER


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7 minutes

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190.34592

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1,438

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113

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Misogyny

4

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2

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In this episode, we talk about abortion and why it should be banned. We also talk about the pros and cons of having a baby with a child with a Down Syndrome diagnosis, and why we should all be pro-life.

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00:00:00.000 So, yeah, I do have a story and I hope that this will endear me to the pro-lifers a little bit because it's a personal story.
00:00:07.260 Not me, but my mom had an abortion and she had announced the pregnancy to all of her kids. 0.64
00:00:15.300 She was intending on keeping it.
00:00:18.100 However, this was a while back and I was a kid as well.
00:00:23.280 We didn't have access or good access to the Internet, or at least my mom didn't know how to use it too good.
00:00:28.080 So, my mom had all of her kids in her 30s, but by this point she was now 40. 0.99
00:00:34.500 And she had been, I guess, scared that by the increasing statistical chance of Down syndrome.
00:00:42.300 Now, my mom's friend had a kid with Down syndrome, so she went to see her friend.
00:00:47.440 She spoke to her about it a bunch.
00:00:49.600 And in the end, she decided that if that was going to be the end result that she couldn't manage, she did have four kids already.
00:00:58.080 Um, but if she had been able to know, or someone had actually told her that the statistical likelihood of having a child with Down syndrome was incredibly low, just because it's increased, she'd had a healthy kid two years before, I think she would have kept the kid because we were, she wouldn't have announced it to all of her children otherwise.
00:01:18.640 So, I do think, and I was excited, I only have brothers, so I was like, heck yeah, this will be my sister finally.
00:01:25.820 I was like to my mom, can I name it if it's a girl?
00:01:29.120 So, it wasn't a happy situation.
00:01:31.200 It wasn't done lightly.
00:01:32.580 And I do think it was done, um, sadly, considering that it was based out of being scared and not having that information that she might have made a different decision otherwise.
00:01:44.780 Do you think the doctors pushed her to do it?
00:01:47.140 No, they didn't push her.
00:01:48.880 But by providing the statistics, we're saying there's an increased chance.
00:01:52.740 It's not telling you how still, how small that is, especially if you've just had a child two years prior and all of your children have been healthy.
00:02:00.500 It's just.
00:02:01.500 What'd your dad think about it?
00:02:03.760 Um, so this was not my dad.
00:02:05.700 Um, I have one brother and then I have two half brothers.
00:02:08.820 Um, I think they were both sad about it.
00:02:11.620 It wasn't, it wasn't, um, yeah, it wasn't a decision that was taken lightly.
00:02:16.760 Yeah.
00:02:17.580 So this is why I think abortion should be banned.
00:02:20.400 I would ban it.
00:02:22.100 No exceptions.
00:02:23.720 Well, I'm, I'm definitely not okay with the lack of information.
00:02:26.120 And I do think that sometimes people get scared because they're like, oh, if you haven't had a kid by 35, then it's a geriatric pregnancy.
00:02:34.680 Um, but we should be evaluating these things on a case by case basis.
00:02:38.860 Um, fertility is a whole other thing.
00:02:40.840 And it's, you know, we shouldn't be scaring people out of what might be otherwise healthy pregnancies if they actually want to keep them.
00:02:46.980 Um, because the majority of abortions are had by women that already have children. 0.90
00:02:52.740 60%.
00:02:53.740 Wow.
00:02:57.100 You think they'd keep them then?
00:02:59.020 They already did the first two.
00:03:00.060 Oh, for my mom's case, it was being scared.
00:03:02.460 You're not talking about your mom.
00:03:03.440 I'm just talking about the stats in general.
00:03:04.960 I think usually when it's mothers that are having abortions, it may be because they, they think they can't cope.
00:03:11.220 I think it's less money and it's more coping.
00:03:15.840 If you've got two or three, or in my case, my mom's case, four kids, and then she's thinking it might be disabled as well.
00:03:22.160 Um, you start to think, oh, I can't cope.
00:03:25.040 I'm going to like die from stress.
00:03:26.820 Like I'm going to fall apart.
00:03:28.680 Um, obviously that's not necessarily the case.
00:03:31.520 Um, and it can come from, you know, not feeling like you have enough support one way or the other.
00:03:36.740 Um, but I think it usually comes from being scared in some way.
00:03:43.200 Yeah.
00:03:43.740 But I just think we have like a, a better quality of living than we've had in all of human history.
00:03:48.960 Generally speaking, but I think after a certain point, you don't get any additional, like child tax credits and benefits beyond, is it the third child?
00:03:57.600 Yeah.
00:03:58.080 And it starts to be a bit of a strain.
00:03:59.620 Yeah, but then, like my answer is get married, stay married.
00:04:02.440 Yeah.
00:04:03.100 Um, well, that, that, that's dependent on whether your husband is successful at taking care of you.
00:04:11.940 And to, to be fair on men, you might be able to happily support two kids, but four, five, six just might be out of your budget.
00:04:19.680 Right.
00:04:20.320 And I know that's a tough thing to say, but I don't think money should be a predominant factor in deciding this, but it is a factor for some people.
00:04:28.400 So I'm curious, pro-choicers, when, I'm, I'm assuming you guys think life begins at conception.
00:04:34.460 Yeah.
00:04:34.640 Okay.
00:04:34.820 Um, pro-choicers, when do you guys think life begins?
00:04:38.120 How many weeks?
00:04:39.820 Months?
00:04:40.360 What is it?
00:04:40.760 What do you guys think?
00:04:41.560 Should it, abortion be legal up to birth? 0.84
00:04:43.880 Three weeks?
00:04:44.680 A month?
00:04:45.420 Like what's your, starting here and then?
00:04:48.400 Go ahead.
00:04:49.080 Go ahead.
00:04:49.800 Sorry.
00:04:50.260 Yeah.
00:04:50.460 When should abortion be legalized?
00:04:53.560 Um, well, to be fair, the laws at the moment, isn't it like 12 weeks or something?
00:04:59.800 Mm-mm.
00:05:00.500 24.
00:05:01.120 24.
00:05:01.560 24.
00:05:02.240 24.
00:05:02.640 It's six months.
00:05:03.760 Six months.
00:05:04.340 Okay.
00:05:05.020 I don't agree with that, but I'm sure at some point, was it 12 weeks?
00:05:08.780 I don't know where I got that from, but I'm sure at some point.
00:05:10.960 12, probably 12 weeks is, 12 weeks is, is what you can get the pill up to, is it?
00:05:17.840 The pill?
00:05:18.720 And then after that.
00:05:19.800 You can get the pill for longer beyond that.
00:05:21.500 Oh, right.
00:05:21.900 No, it's, it's the, it's the, but it becomes more likely that you'll get a surgical the later
00:05:26.280 on that you're getting it.
00:05:27.420 Yeah.
00:05:27.460 Yeah.
00:05:27.760 Well, they, they're literally taking the mic with it right now.
00:05:32.200 They've, um, they're talking about putting it up to like two months off or a month off.
00:05:39.860 There was, there was, that's too much.
00:05:42.300 That's murder to me.
00:05:44.520 Yeah.
00:05:44.700 That's too much.
00:05:45.520 I wasn't aware of that because I don't know the stats.
00:05:48.080 Some children have survived at less than six months at like five and a half.
00:05:52.540 Yeah.
00:05:53.660 I think they should do three months.
00:05:54.960 I think that should be like up to three months.
00:05:57.400 And then after that, if you don't want it, just give it to adoption.
00:06:00.620 There's lots of people that can't have kids.
00:06:02.080 After that, just give birth, give it to adoption.
00:06:03.400 Yeah.
00:06:03.540 I mean, at six months, you're almost all the way there.
00:06:05.500 You know what I mean?
00:06:06.220 Yeah.
00:06:06.440 When you're 12 weeks, isn't that when you have like your first scan?
00:06:09.620 When I had my son, I have a nine year old.
00:06:11.920 So when I had my son, you have your first scan when you're 12 weeks and then you have
00:06:15.900 another one when you're 25 weeks.
00:06:17.440 And that's when you find out the sex.
00:06:18.680 I would say in my world, depending on people's circumstances, everyone's different.
00:06:26.200 But when they have a, if they, if they do get pregnant, then I would say up to maybe 0.99
00:06:33.140 just before 12 weeks or up to 12 weeks, because there must be a reason why you have your first
00:06:37.000 scan at 12 weeks.
00:06:38.480 I'm not sure exactly the scientific stuff behind it, but there must be a reason why
00:06:43.240 you don't see anything but a heartbeat.
00:06:45.740 Like if I go, if there was complications or at one point I was like six weeks and I
00:06:51.000 started spotting, spotting's when you start seeing blood when you're pregnant. 0.80
00:06:56.020 Then you would go and get an exam.
00:06:58.360 But when you go to get that exam, because it's an early pregnancy scan, you can't even
00:07:02.280 go and get a scan on your belly.
00:07:04.200 They actually put like this special camera inside you because it's too small to see anything.
00:07:09.060 So if your child is, if child embryo, everyone has their different terms.
00:07:15.160 But when a fetus is that small, I would say in my head, it would sit right with me.
00:07:20.760 I have a nephew that was premature and he was born at six months old.
00:07:25.140 And my nephew was tiny.
00:07:26.440 He weighed about the same weight as a bag of sugar.
00:07:31.700 Literally, he was tiny like that.