JustPearlyThings - July 08, 2023


Women Shame Men For Having Standards


Episode Stats

Length

50 minutes

Words per Minute

198.12068

Word Count

10,008

Sentence Count

927

Misogynist Sentences

73

Hate Speech Sentences

39


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Coming up next.
00:00:30.000 They're being, you know.
00:00:31.820 Where's the short man positivity?
00:00:35.060 Exactly.
00:00:36.480 See, where's the short man positivity?
00:00:39.060 I'm sorry.
00:00:39.820 Can I speak on that?
00:00:41.280 Everything's misogyny.
00:00:42.100 Everything's misogyny.
00:00:43.220 I don't think that that's true.
00:00:45.800 No, no, no.
00:00:46.220 I don't think that's true.
00:00:47.400 Take this in.
00:00:48.560 People's entitled to having their own, like, no one's going on you for having.
00:00:52.600 So I think, I think, I think, wait, I think that's easy from, like, a woman's point of
00:00:57.320 view, because a lot of times, like, we don't notice it, but it's, like, every time a man
00:01:01.480 has standards, there's always a woman shaming him for having them.
00:01:04.220 So, like, for example, when a guy says, I don't like, I don't like fat chicks, like, then all
00:01:08.360 of a sudden he's fat phobic.
00:01:09.740 If he says, if he says, I don't, I don't like sluts, then, like, they have, then they have
00:01:13.520 the slut walk.
00:01:14.480 If he says that, I don't like, yeah, but, like, every, every time that a man has standards,
00:01:20.260 he's shamed for it.
00:01:21.420 Okay, so today's topic is, are modern women prepared for winter?
00:01:24.700 So, one year ago, Kevin Samuels proclaimed that a cold winter was coming for single women.
00:01:32.340 Mr. Samuels spoke of a coming recession that would lead to job losses in sectors filled
00:01:37.380 predominantly by women.
00:01:40.200 The financial instability would lead to more women getting evicted, applying for government
00:01:44.780 assistance, and seeking other means of income, aka OnlyFans and other sex work.
00:01:49.920 No sector is safe from the coming winter of over 73,000 tech job workers being laid off
00:01:57.900 in the month of November 2022 in the U.S., according to news sources that time is almost here.
00:02:06.180 Inflation in the U.K. is projected to rise to 18.6% in January of 2023, the highest since
00:02:14.360 1997.
00:02:17.040 This inflation will apply to food and consumer goods the most.
00:02:21.500 Only 14% of women say they are ready for a recession in the next year.
00:02:26.200 The average woman in the U.K., about 52%, make 29,684 pounds a year.
00:02:34.020 The average woman in the U.S. makes about $36,726 a year.
00:02:41.920 Rent has increased by 12.3% nationwide in the U.K.
00:02:47.200 Rent has increased 17.3% to around £2,550 in London and as high as 20% or £2,650 in Manchester.
00:02:59.860 Women make less than men and spend more.
00:03:02.820 The current way that women are navigating their finances is unsustainable with inflation
00:03:08.220 coming and the coming winter exacerbating the problem.
00:03:12.960 Putting feelings and emotions aside, women in general will need a man because they simply
00:03:17.340 cannot afford to live without one.
00:03:20.720 Their survival depends on it.
00:03:23.100 Question for the women.
00:03:25.740 Actually, and the men.
00:03:26.620 I'm going to say and the men.
00:03:27.840 First of all, have you noticed the cost of living increasing?
00:03:30.800 Anybody?
00:03:34.400 Yes.
00:03:34.900 Yes.
00:03:35.200 Yes.
00:03:36.200 Definitely.
00:03:37.240 Yeah, absolutely.
00:03:38.220 A hundred percent.
00:03:39.680 Who hasn't noticed it?
00:03:42.520 Who hasn't?
00:03:43.700 Someone hasn't.
00:03:44.360 Did someone say they haven't noticed it?
00:03:46.580 No.
00:03:46.900 Oh, I thought someone said no.
00:03:48.320 Okay, okay.
00:03:49.200 I noticed it when I bought kitchen roll.
00:03:50.540 It was like £4.50 and it went up to like £5.15 and I was like, still the same kitchen
00:03:56.240 roll.
00:03:57.260 So how bad would the economy have to get before you view a second income and a relationship
00:04:04.040 as a necessity?
00:04:05.420 To the point where I can't afford no kitchen roll.
00:04:13.060 I feel like I would have to be let go from my job and like dismissed from my family and
00:04:20.440 like out on the street somewhere for me to be asking somebody like, hey, can I rely on
00:04:24.940 your income too?
00:04:25.820 Maybe I'm just too independent for that.
00:04:27.480 It's a joint income though.
00:04:29.980 It's not, you don't have to like get to the very end of the road before you sit there and
00:04:34.140 say, hey, we could have a better life if we pool our finances.
00:04:38.060 Yeah.
00:04:38.180 It's like if you make 40 and they make 40, that's 80.
00:04:40.320 That's 80.
00:04:40.740 That's 80.
00:04:41.480 That's 80.
00:04:41.980 You just have to like, you know, agree sometimes even if you don't feel like agreeing, you know?
00:04:48.920 No, I don't want to compromise.
00:04:50.500 Fuck that.
00:04:50.860 I want to be homeless on the streets.
00:04:53.860 Please, have you got any change?
00:04:57.480 Okay.
00:05:00.380 What about you?
00:05:01.620 Oh God.
00:05:02.820 Yeah, I'm going to probably align with Keala.
00:05:05.600 I would rather just like get like a roommate than compromise.
00:05:12.840 Like I would rather get a roommate or two roommates before I went to being dependent or having a
00:05:21.280 part of my life being dependent on someone else's income in like a romantic setting.
00:05:25.500 That just would make me really uncomfortable.
00:05:27.640 So you'd rather have roommates than a man?
00:05:29.400 I'd rather have roommates than depend on a man in a room.
00:05:33.100 Like I would rather, there's no, I would rather, yeah, have multiple roommates.
00:05:37.620 Yeah.
00:05:37.880 It would take a lot.
00:05:38.660 Don't you have to depend on the roommates though?
00:05:40.460 Yeah, but that's a contractual agreement.
00:05:42.520 Like being in a relationship, like the only way that I would do that is if I was like married
00:05:46.300 or like we were working towards marriage, I wouldn't just have my livelihood be intertwined
00:05:51.760 with someone who wasn't my husband or going to be my husband.
00:05:54.440 Okay.
00:05:55.340 What about you?
00:05:55.880 So I definitely think it's easier when you pair up with someone in terms of like staying
00:06:02.220 with them and stuff, because it is really expensive nowadays in London, especially I'm from London.
00:06:07.840 So I don't necessarily think that for me at my age, I'd want to pair up with like a man
00:06:13.040 per se, but family, like roommates, friends, et cetera, I would definitely be down for it
00:06:18.660 because the living costs are really bad at the moment and the income's not rising with
00:06:23.800 it.
00:06:24.000 So it's just, it's not really making much sense, but yeah, this is just not there.
00:06:30.300 But yeah, I'd definitely be open for it.
00:06:31.860 But I also think as well that just for people that are like aware of the condition, just really
00:06:37.700 trying to figure out how you can bring in more income at this point, because I just don't
00:06:41.780 think like a job really can sustain people.
00:06:44.460 Or just one job.
00:06:45.580 Yeah, you need multiple streams of income.
00:06:47.080 Come now, it's just not going to sustain people.
00:06:50.600 I'm just not going to lie.
00:06:51.980 Okay.
00:06:52.360 What about you?
00:06:53.220 For me personally, I have family.
00:06:55.800 I have my dad, I have uncles, I have family.
00:06:58.500 But what I will say is down to money management and being aware of your income, what you can
00:07:04.600 spend, what you have to expend with the cost of living.
00:07:08.440 Like for me, I have a spreadsheet so I can see how much things have gone up.
00:07:12.360 So that means I can restrict.
00:07:13.960 I've always lived by myself.
00:07:15.160 I've never had roommates.
00:07:16.080 I don't have roommates now.
00:07:18.040 So, you know, not everyone is fortunate enough to have family.
00:07:22.040 To rely on a man who is not your long-term partner, that's risky.
00:07:27.400 And if it goes sour, you still end up...
00:07:29.880 Well, he could be your long-term partner.
00:07:31.780 He could make it work.
00:07:32.440 Like, what if it goes right?
00:07:35.820 No, no, no, it could go right.
00:07:37.220 But I'm saying, like, if you're just moving in from living by yourself or living with friends
00:07:41.200 to live with a guy to rely on him for rent or whatever, that's kind of...
00:07:45.860 Isn't this how relationships used to be?
00:07:49.040 Families, men and women used to get together and rely on each other to build a family, build
00:07:53.540 a household, potentially build a stable enough environment to have kids in.
00:07:57.880 Like, I don't understand how we've moved so far left from that, that you would rather
00:08:02.720 be homeless on the streets, you would rather rely on people to live with you that you don't
00:08:07.700 actually know they could move out with their boyfriend at any time.
00:08:10.460 No, I do know them for sure.
00:08:12.200 It's like, I think it sounds more like everybody's scared to toe the line.
00:08:16.640 I mean, I don't, I'm going to push back on that because like, okay, how things used to
00:08:20.360 be.
00:08:20.560 Yeah.
00:08:20.760 People used to also be in extremely toxic situations.
00:08:23.380 Like we're also, this generation, we're all, half of us are children of divorce or relationships
00:08:29.520 that should have been, or should be divorced.
00:08:31.660 So I think with having that awareness of like, what could go wrong living, what could go wrong.
00:08:38.440 Yeah.
00:08:38.680 We're going to be so much more.
00:08:40.420 We're going to be living in fear though.
00:08:41.660 Yeah.
00:08:42.140 I don't think that's fear.
00:08:43.060 I think that's being smart.
00:08:44.280 Do you know what, do you know what the shift came from?
00:08:45.640 The shift came from after like the second world war, right?
00:08:48.420 Before the second world war that everybody had like this sense of duty, a sense of community,
00:08:51.820 a sense of responsibility.
00:08:53.600 As soon as the war was done, everybody was like, we're liberated, we're free.
00:08:56.240 We won.
00:08:57.060 Go out and chase your dreams.
00:08:58.320 Be happy.
00:08:58.920 Do whatever you want to do.
00:09:00.140 Two generations later, you got people chasing happiness that don't even know what makes them
00:09:03.280 happy.
00:09:03.860 And now we have no sense of community, no sense of togetherness.
00:09:06.960 And this is kind of why we're in this situation now where we're afraid to just realize that we all
00:09:11.360 kind of need each other.
00:09:12.380 I disagree with that.
00:09:13.820 Okay.
00:09:14.300 Why do you disagree?
00:09:15.260 Because we can still have a sense of, having a sense of community isn't contingent upon
00:09:18.600 having a romantic partner.
00:09:20.120 Well, okay.
00:09:20.700 Those two things are not like.
00:09:21.920 No, but that's where your community starts because that's where your home starts.
00:09:24.980 A romantic relationship is where your home starts.
00:09:27.440 So, okay.
00:09:28.240 So if you have.
00:09:28.840 I have a question.
00:09:29.800 I have a question.
00:09:30.320 What would you rather have at 60?
00:09:32.920 A husband, a roommate, or live with your parents?
00:09:36.140 Well, obviously I would rather have.
00:09:37.760 I'm like, I mean, obviously I'd rather have a partner like my husband.
00:09:41.780 However, that doesn't mean that I'm willing to sacrifice.
00:09:46.020 I mean.
00:09:46.800 You must live in a nice house, boy.
00:09:48.480 Because she's like, I ain't sacrificing.
00:09:49.840 I mean, I do.
00:09:50.600 I do.
00:09:51.040 I do pretty well for myself.
00:09:52.360 I'll be on it.
00:09:54.100 She did like this list.
00:09:55.220 Yeah, but I'm not.
00:09:56.660 I mean, but I, yeah, maybe that is my privilege.
00:10:00.220 Maybe I should check my privilege that I haven't.
00:10:02.940 Yeah, I have.
00:10:04.000 I've been very fortunate.
00:10:05.100 I have a really good job.
00:10:06.260 I'm a content creator.
00:10:07.440 I make extra money on the side as well.
00:10:08.920 So like, I can't fathom a possibility of my life going that way.
00:10:15.160 And so I think it is because of that privilege that that will shape my perspective.
00:10:20.080 So maybe I should take a step back.
00:10:22.360 I have a question.
00:10:23.880 Out of everyone here, who has six months of expenses covered if you were to lose your job tomorrow?
00:10:30.500 So you do.
00:10:32.520 Six.
00:10:33.460 Okay, that's it.
00:10:34.880 No, not half.
00:10:37.240 No, no, no.
00:10:37.820 Wait, so one.
00:10:38.640 Wait, raise them high.
00:10:39.280 Raise them high.
00:10:39.720 So one, two, three, four, five.
00:10:41.440 That's decent half.
00:10:42.640 That's like more than I thought like we would have.
00:10:45.840 What's standard of living though?
00:10:47.480 Like, because I'm going to have to cut all the way back by month six.
00:10:49.400 Boy, I'll be eating.
00:10:50.100 No, no.
00:10:51.020 Whatever your standard of living is now.
00:10:54.840 Oh, yeah.
00:10:55.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:10:56.000 I can sustain myself.
00:10:57.200 Beans are still good.
00:10:57.820 Um, so have you guys had to make any changes to your spending habits in the past six months?
00:11:04.840 Yes.
00:11:05.280 Oh, definitely.
00:11:06.640 Not, not really.
00:11:07.740 Yeah, less takeaway.
00:11:09.560 Definitely less takeaway.
00:11:11.000 Less to see.
00:11:12.760 Man is cooking in the yard now.
00:11:14.200 I mean, I am a bit more cautious.
00:11:16.260 Look, look, look, look, look, look sad.
00:11:19.760 And has, and has your job industry or job prospects changed drastically since 2022 or in 2022?
00:11:28.500 Anyone?
00:11:28.960 Yeah.
00:11:29.120 Well, I'm a tattooist by trade.
00:11:31.200 So my, my clientele fluctuates throughout the year, obviously summertime, preparing for summertime.
00:11:37.100 Everybody wants to, you know, get their tattoos done.
00:11:38.800 But then times like now coming into winter, you know, they have more, um, different obligations and different avenues for their finances to go down.
00:11:46.780 So, yeah, this is, this, that wintertime is my time to chill out.
00:11:49.820 Hence why I've spent so much time with my other projects.
00:11:53.220 Um, so yeah, I think everybody's feeling like that right at the moment.
00:11:57.440 Anyone else?
00:11:58.060 Anyone?
00:11:58.500 Well, I mean, what?
00:11:59.900 Like, have you guys had layoffs at your companies?
00:12:02.120 I've had layoffs.
00:12:02.840 At your company.
00:12:03.760 What do you, what do you work as?
00:12:04.780 You said a content creator?
00:12:05.840 Well, well, that's like on the side.
00:12:07.240 This is on the side.
00:12:08.600 I work in the tech industry.
00:12:10.220 So I'm a management consultant.
00:12:11.500 Oh, okay.
00:12:11.900 So tech, it's been hit hard in tech.
00:12:13.640 Yeah.
00:12:13.880 Yeah.
00:12:14.720 Yeah.
00:12:15.120 And then I have friends who are, I have friends who are at Amazon or friends who are at Twitter.
00:12:19.260 None of my, thank God so far.
00:12:21.420 Um, none of my friends have been laid off, but, uh, I have a lot of people like that are all, most of my immediate circle are in the tech industry as well.
00:12:29.380 So it's a tough topic.
00:12:32.020 Yeah.
00:12:32.840 It's no effect in the entertainment industry for me anyway.
00:12:35.720 There's still films being made.
00:12:37.300 So it's about whether you get a job as an actor or not.
00:12:40.540 So it's even more auditions now.
00:12:42.800 Yeah.
00:12:43.200 I feel like it's allowed people to like think smarter into their like investment choices.
00:12:47.320 So obviously before I would work and spend money and just buy useless stuff, like, oh, I want the new iPhone that's coming out this year.
00:12:56.540 So I'll get it.
00:12:57.320 And then obviously when you get hit by something such as like the cost of living crisis or a pandemic, it allows you to think, okay, how can I think smarter and make money that will generate wealth and do certain things?
00:13:08.620 So for me, I've looked into stocks and trading ISAs and kind of trading and doing stuff like that, that will, I can put my wealth into something and then flip it and generate more and then keep on doing it.
00:13:21.340 So some things it's not immediate, you know, sometimes people invest things into things that will get them immediate gratification.
00:13:28.200 Sometimes it doesn't work like that.
00:13:29.500 But in 10 years I can say, wow, I've managed to put a certain amount of money, no matter how much it is, and flip it.
00:13:36.680 And in 10 years time, I can look into that and be like, wow, at least I invested.
00:13:40.680 And now I can do something else, generate and like work in something like property or whatever it is, I can invest that into something else and flip that.
00:13:49.500 And I think that's really important, like with my generation especially, is material objects, they're not going to last forever.
00:13:58.140 You can have the newest Louis pouch, but if you don't know how to invest and kind of invest into your future, sometimes it won't last.
00:14:05.460 Sometimes you might be really lucky and manage to do everything.
00:14:07.680 But I feel like sometimes you have to look at things in a bigger picture when you're younger and it will help you manage to do it when you're older.
00:14:15.780 And then if you look at past examples made by family members or something, like listen to your family members, because whatever they're telling you, you might think at the time, oh, they're talking like whatever.
00:14:28.420 But then when you look at back in 10 years time, you'll be like, wow, my family really tried to set me up for generational wealth and tried to really help me get money opportunities.
00:14:36.620 Because they can see things that you won't even see happening.
00:14:39.780 Yeah.
00:14:40.520 And I think that's really important.
00:14:41.960 Like, it's your, yeah, my family were the ones that taught me about generational wealth and just being, invest well and invest in things that will make you profit and help you in the future.
00:14:55.000 So maybe not right now, but in the future, that will definitely be an investment that I'll look back on and be like, I did that.
00:15:03.160 I feel like you're really fortunate to have family members who were able to guide you in that sense, because I feel like a lot of parents not necessarily know how to guide their children in the modern world today, especially with everything rising and just this different environment nowadays.
00:15:18.440 And I agree that now, for me personally, I'm much more cautious when it comes to what I'm spending my money on now.
00:15:26.000 And obviously, I work a part time job, but I'm just the same opinion there.
00:15:30.700 Whereas like, you might want to get that thing or spend it on that expensive shoe or whatever it is that interests you, materialistic things, really.
00:15:37.620 I'm much more like sensible now.
00:15:39.780 I'm thinking, okay, I can spend my money on that, but maybe the budget and thing that you were saying, like dividing it to a sense where it's like, okay, I'm going to put that for that and put this down for investing in my future, investing in myself in whatever form that is.
00:15:52.540 Like you said cryptos and stocks and stuff.
00:15:54.920 It could be investing in your business, whatever it is, like, even if you want to be like on social media, content creation, whatever, investing in that, just in yourself and whatever you want to do and set yourself up for where you see yourself in the future.
00:16:06.980 Just so that when you're at a particular, obviously, I'm quite young, but when you're at a particular age, you don't really want to be struggling how people are struggling.
00:16:15.780 Do you know what I mean?
00:16:16.340 Like, or if you've got parents as well that struggled to like raise you and stuff, like you don't want to repeat that in your family or in your, in your generation or whatever.
00:16:24.900 So you're trying to like work 10 times harder to make sure that you don't repeat just family curses to a degree.
00:16:32.120 Do you know what I mean?
00:16:32.560 I feel like it's much more prominent now for people to be cautious of not everyone, but there are like, probably in my circle, just a large amount of people who are very cautious of that and thinking ahead and thinking in the future, which I think is very important, extremely important to do.
00:16:47.020 So if you're young, it's like, for me, I think it's the best years for you to even think about your future.
00:16:52.600 Like, you shouldn't really be wasting it on that things that are just going to go.
00:16:57.360 Do you know what I mean?
00:16:57.880 Like, sustain, sustain, make sustained decisions.
00:17:01.040 Don't buy Balenciaga.
00:17:03.980 Don't buy Balenciaga.
00:17:06.260 Yes, louder.
00:17:07.380 Also, I feel like, would you, sorry.
00:17:09.700 No, go ahead.
00:17:10.080 Oh, would you argue that like, things such as COVID and everything played a factor in your mindset now and how you think?
00:17:17.140 Obviously, because COVID, obviously, loads of people would have been made like redundant, would have been laid off.
00:17:22.280 And obviously, it made you think sometimes about your mindset and it allowed people to like, be like, wow, okay, so I can't work at this current time or furlough and everything.
00:17:30.960 So how will I cover the difference that I'm losing?
00:17:34.820 I think for me, it's more of a personal reason as to why I'm like, ambitious, I'm motivated and just dedicated to making those changes for myself.
00:17:42.520 But I agree with the COVID situation.
00:17:44.220 Like, I was one of those people who was a victim of it.
00:17:47.960 Like, I lost my job.
00:17:49.440 I had a certain amount of money that I was just having to live off.
00:17:52.420 And it's like, it's just deducting, deducting, and there's no more gains because obviously, I lost my job and I was one of those people.
00:17:57.820 So I guess it's like, to a degree, that could have impacted my mindset.
00:18:02.420 And I started to believe that, okay, anyhow, you could just lose your job nowadays.
00:18:07.000 And then what are you going to do?
00:18:08.580 Do you know what I mean?
00:18:09.060 Would you say you're extremely frugal now?
00:18:11.820 What do you mean by frugal?
00:18:13.120 Like that means not spending a lot of money.
00:18:14.680 Right now, yeah, I'd say so.
00:18:18.140 I'm very cautious of what I spend nowadays, to be completely honest with you.
00:18:20.900 How do you have your nails done, then?
00:18:23.900 No, but, like I said, like I said.
00:18:26.060 Gotcha, gotcha.
00:18:26.860 No, no, like I said.
00:18:28.180 I mean, awesome.
00:18:30.700 That weren't her money.
00:18:33.460 Just to put it out there, it was literally my birthday.
00:18:37.680 Girl, get your nails done.
00:18:41.520 If you want to get your nails done.
00:18:42.840 Even if it wasn't my birthday, really, in Chile.
00:18:44.500 It doesn't matter.
00:18:45.520 If I want to put money aside, that is an investment in you, girl.
00:18:49.560 Of course.
00:18:50.180 I have nothing against women getting their nails done.
00:18:52.500 I hear what you're saying.
00:18:53.120 It just didn't sound like what you were saying.
00:18:55.080 Yeah, yeah, I hear your point, but it's like, at the end of the day, you can put money down
00:18:58.280 for certain things that you like to enjoy.
00:18:59.600 I'm not going to restrict myself and be living a certain way.
00:19:02.800 Do you know what I mean?
00:19:03.400 Like, you put your money down for that, you also put your money down for that.
00:19:06.360 And that's fine.
00:19:07.100 Obviously, for my birthday, I do like to look nice, spend money on my appearance.
00:19:11.040 Because I'm a woman, at the end of the day, like, appearance is a very important thing.
00:19:14.140 So, it's just as simple as that.
00:19:15.820 Okay, question?
00:19:16.620 Question?
00:19:17.460 I was just going to say, to add to what everybody said here, what I would say is one, as I said
00:19:23.100 before, do a spreadsheet.
00:19:24.520 Set yourself goals that you want to achieve.
00:19:27.020 Don't watch anyone.
00:19:28.300 Just do what you're doing.
00:19:29.600 Be resilient, yeah?
00:19:30.740 Because life is hard, it's not easy.
00:19:32.880 Sometimes you have to have setbacks, you have to lose money.
00:19:36.560 If you're going to sit and say, I've never lost money, I've lost money, I've been broke.
00:19:39.860 It's part of the process.
00:19:41.480 Appreciate it.
00:19:42.660 It allows you to have gratitude for your situation.
00:19:45.420 And appreciate the present.
00:19:47.740 Yeah?
00:19:47.920 Looking at the future is always good.
00:19:49.760 And it's the right thing to do.
00:19:51.260 But also, look at the present, appreciate it, absorb it, and allow it to just, you know,
00:19:58.640 give you a bit of time to reflect, and then go forward from that.
00:20:02.940 But set yourself goals.
00:20:04.060 So, if you know your money is getting stripped back, you can say, okay, if I save five pound
00:20:08.180 here, five pound there, in the future, I actually have more money to spend on things
00:20:13.080 that I like.
00:20:14.060 So, you know?
00:20:15.000 So, question for the girl.
00:20:17.180 So, you're 29.
00:20:19.400 I don't, I'm sorry.
00:20:20.500 How old did you guys say you are?
00:20:21.740 You're?
00:20:22.580 I'm 19.
00:20:23.280 Oh, wow.
00:20:24.240 You're very young.
00:20:24.800 Yeah, I'm 26.
00:20:26.240 26.
00:20:26.900 26.
00:20:27.200 26.
00:20:27.900 Okay.
00:20:29.020 So, I know you guys said right now, you wouldn't, you'd rather live with roommates than a man.
00:20:34.640 Right?
00:20:35.120 That's not what I'm saying.
00:20:36.200 No.
00:20:36.340 I did it by myself.
00:20:37.260 I was never going to be roommates, to be honest.
00:20:39.240 Is the way that you phrased the question, you were asking us, like, how, like, where would
00:20:42.220 we have to be in our lives to be reliant on a man and his income?
00:20:46.180 And I think, phrasing it that way, like.
00:20:48.360 Okay.
00:20:48.680 Okay.
00:20:48.960 Fine.
00:20:49.320 Fine.
00:20:49.540 Fine.
00:20:49.680 But, like, when there's a recession, if you had to make a choice, right, if your income
00:20:54.740 was getting slim, you would pick family over a man.
00:20:58.400 Yeah.
00:20:58.700 Right?
00:20:59.900 I have the option to do that.
00:21:01.420 So, yeah.
00:21:02.500 I have the option to do that.
00:21:04.340 So, yeah.
00:21:05.540 If I was in a relationship, that's different.
00:21:07.800 But I have the option.
00:21:09.020 Okay.
00:21:09.380 So, let's say, like, you lose your job tomorrow and you have to think, I either have to move
00:21:12.980 home or I have to get into a relationship.
00:21:14.940 Right?
00:21:15.420 Right now.
00:21:16.960 Right now.
00:21:17.960 Right now.
00:21:18.580 Right now, you would pick moving home or moving in with a roommate.
00:21:23.720 That's what you guys said earlier.
00:21:25.300 I would suggest that, to be fair.
00:21:27.300 If you had no income coming in, moving in with a guy, you don't really know what his real
00:21:32.340 financial circumstances, and you might become a bit of a burden.
00:21:35.280 And that might actually crash the relationship.
00:21:37.660 Yeah.
00:21:38.000 Home would be just too.
00:21:38.820 Which is fine.
00:21:39.100 I'm not.
00:21:40.020 I'm just asking.
00:21:41.500 Yeah.
00:21:42.000 Home first.
00:21:42.880 Home first.
00:21:43.200 I'm not responding to this question.
00:21:45.120 Home first.
00:21:45.740 Home first.
00:21:46.340 Home first.
00:21:46.440 Home first.
00:21:46.660 Home first.
00:21:46.960 Home first.
00:21:47.040 My question is, would that change if you were older?
00:21:49.720 If I was older.
00:21:50.840 Like, if this happened at 32, 33, 34, 35, would you ever start prioritizing relationships
00:21:57.060 over, um, like moving home or moving in with roommates?
00:22:01.440 Me personally, no.
00:22:02.520 I, like, I don't view really, or I don't even get into relationships where, um, money
00:22:08.280 is a main proponent of that.
00:22:10.140 Like, I, I, it's nice if we can go out on like dates and we go out to eat and we're going,
00:22:16.460 we're having a great time and things like that.
00:22:17.880 But I'm also fine with like picnics in the car and it's just cheese and crackers.
00:22:22.040 Like, you know, like, like it doesn't always have to be.
00:22:24.340 Well, I'm not even talking about dates, I was talking about rent.
00:22:26.560 Yeah.
00:22:29.920 I'm going to say, like, you're in a situation, your rent needs to cut in half.
00:22:34.040 You either find a man or you go home.
00:22:35.440 Right, exactly.
00:22:36.180 And so I'm just trying to put it together.
00:22:37.600 Like, there's just no situation where, like, even when I'm making money where I'm going
00:22:42.800 to be financially reliant on a man, I'm definitely not going to do it when I'm, when I'm not,
00:22:46.380 like, I personally, I would go with my family.
00:22:48.440 Do you want kids?
00:22:49.780 No.
00:22:50.420 Oh, you don't want kids.
00:22:52.860 Okay, well then, fair enough.
00:22:53.940 Then you don't need it.
00:22:54.780 Yeah.
00:22:55.100 Yeah.
00:22:55.480 I mean, I feel like, because even you asked earlier, like, how, how do I feel about being
00:23:00.860 60 years old?
00:23:02.060 Do I have a man or do I have a roommate?
00:23:04.280 I mean, being 60 and having a roommate, we're just out here, you know, pushing little kids,
00:23:08.080 hitting people with our canes.
00:23:08.900 Like, that sounds like a good time.
00:23:10.060 Like, you can say that now, but that's not child abuse.
00:23:13.220 No, that's a good time.
00:23:16.900 Can I just say something about that?
00:23:19.500 I'm just, I'm just curious.
00:23:21.040 Have you always felt like that?
00:23:22.300 Um, you know, different relationships have shown me different things.
00:23:26.400 So I have been in relationships with men where I was like, okay, I could have children with
00:23:30.880 you.
00:23:31.040 I can see us moving in that direction.
00:23:33.160 I can see us getting married.
00:23:34.180 I can see us owning the house.
00:23:35.320 I can see us reproducing and like creating a legacy that way.
00:23:39.540 Um, but it's, it's not in every relationship.
00:23:43.180 And even now that I'm single, like I'm, I'm definitely not pursuing that.
00:23:46.840 Okay.
00:23:47.240 But for, it sounds like for the right guy, you still would.
00:23:50.260 Yeah.
00:23:50.700 Yeah.
00:23:51.160 Yeah.
00:23:51.540 Would you say like your intentions changed before you met someone?
00:23:55.960 So like, did you think, oh, I'd never want to have kids before I met someone.
00:23:59.580 And then you got in a relationship and you're like, actually, maybe I would change my mindset.
00:24:03.480 Or was it always, I'll never have kids in a relationship.
00:24:06.460 You're like, I'll never have kids.
00:24:07.500 And it got to like a certain point and you're like, actually.
00:24:11.860 So it was more so like, I don't know.
00:24:15.460 I don't know how to get into this without saying, like I have, both of our families are
00:24:19.660 pretty large, right?
00:24:20.700 All together.
00:24:21.260 There's 10 grandchildren.
00:24:22.160 Right.
00:24:22.520 And so we grew up in a, like, yeah.
00:24:25.180 Summer's at grandma's house.
00:24:25.920 We're always super fun.
00:24:26.580 And seeing sort of like the effect that our parents had on us and like on our other cousins
00:24:33.760 and things like that, it was just kind of like, I don't want to have that effect on people.
00:24:36.900 And so when I got into a relationship and I was like, oh, if we got together and we were
00:24:41.720 taking care of kids, we wouldn't have that effect on people.
00:24:43.660 We could actually build like a very like beautiful, prosperous, like family.
00:24:48.920 Like I was like, oh, okay, okay.
00:24:49.740 I can see myself doing that.
00:24:50.960 But otherwise it's just kind of like, I can see us recreating, like you were saying before,
00:24:55.220 a generational trauma, like I can see us recreating a generational trauma and that's not something
00:24:58.220 I want to do.
00:24:58.520 That's a negative way to look at life, don't we?
00:25:01.040 Yeah.
00:25:02.240 Can I ask a quick question?
00:25:03.980 No, no, no, because you're looking at the worst case scenario.
00:25:08.220 But did you say, did you say your life is not full of rainbows and sunshines, like it's
00:25:13.900 not going to be like all good all the time and all bad all the time.
00:25:17.620 You're going to have to have a balance of both.
00:25:19.900 So to just look at the wrong that's happened to you, it's like.
00:25:24.200 But did you say you were from a family that, like, I'm not sure if you said your parents
00:25:29.160 were still together or so?
00:25:30.060 My parents are still together.
00:25:30.940 My parents are divorced.
00:25:32.360 Yeah.
00:25:32.860 And there's, so my, my mom is her brother.
00:25:37.360 Her brother?
00:25:37.980 Sister.
00:25:39.960 Yeah.
00:25:40.640 So yeah, but there's only two of them.
00:25:42.380 So two people made 10 grandchildren.
00:25:44.140 Yeah.
00:25:44.360 No, that's surprising.
00:25:46.180 Obviously, because it was the whole, what you said, I would have expected it to be the opposite.
00:25:52.200 Obviously, when you said that you come from, your parents are still together, I would have
00:25:57.140 expected the opposite where you would have said you would have, you would have want children
00:26:00.540 because obviously from what your parents, you've got two large families.
00:26:03.440 And when it comes to, like, comes to festive events, you're all together.
00:26:07.500 That's why I was surprised when you said, that's why I asked the question.
00:26:09.560 It's like the opposite.
00:26:10.220 Yeah.
00:26:10.840 I'm the one who wants kids.
00:26:12.200 Yeah.
00:26:12.760 And it's funny to see, like, obviously generational, like, trauma.
00:26:16.680 Everyone experiences it differently.
00:26:18.100 I hear this question, I've heard it on your podcast before, but nobody's ever, like, mentioned
00:26:24.040 the fact that the process of having kids is, like, having kids, raising children, the best
00:26:29.460 of your ability, you know, without obviously going too far afield and fucking it all up.
00:26:34.020 I'm scared.
00:26:34.520 And then you get old and your children look after you.
00:26:37.820 Like, what happens when you get old with no kids?
00:26:40.160 Who's going to look after you?
00:26:41.060 And I think this brings up a good point that we were making before.
00:26:45.140 You mentioned community and you were talking about how you would like your partner to help
00:26:49.240 you build your community with you.
00:26:50.740 And I assume, like, you and your partner have kids and that creates your community.
00:26:55.340 Me personally, like, I build my community with, like, my church.
00:26:59.180 When I'm going out to friends, I go to, like, a chess club, like, even, like, my work friends
00:27:03.600 and things like that.
00:27:04.180 But, like, those people are my main community.
00:27:06.400 And I'm not necessarily expecting them to, like, be by my bedside feeding me porridge when
00:27:12.220 I'm, you know, I can't feed myself.
00:27:13.020 But they might come to that time.
00:27:14.240 I'm sorry.
00:27:15.060 Yeah, but, like, what?
00:27:16.220 If you need that.
00:27:16.940 I'm sorry.
00:27:17.300 If I do.
00:27:18.240 If you ever need that.
00:27:19.180 I have a quick question.
00:27:20.060 I have a question.
00:27:21.380 I have a question.
00:27:22.140 You said, so your church community, that's where you'd find, like, that sense of community
00:27:25.560 when you're old?
00:27:26.860 Interesting.
00:27:28.380 Currently, right now, I'm still, like, looking for churches that align with how I personally
00:27:34.180 experienced Christianity, but, yes, like, I'm looking for a church that would allow me
00:27:38.460 to do that.
00:27:39.020 That would allow me to, like, rely on people, work with people.
00:27:42.300 If I needed food and I'm 60 and I, I mean, 60 is kind of young.
00:27:46.180 Like, yeah, like, I'm 80 and I can't afford it myself.
00:27:49.960 Do you think that's realistic to expect a church to take care of you when you're old?
00:27:53.640 This is what I'm saying.
00:27:54.340 I'm looking for the right church and I'm looking for the right community.
00:27:56.860 Like, I'm still, I don't necessarily have my decrepit 80-year-old community yet, but that's
00:28:03.240 I'm building it.
00:28:04.320 I'm building it in the process.
00:28:05.080 And also, she has a sizable family.
00:28:07.620 Like, I will have children.
00:28:08.960 My brother will have children.
00:28:09.980 Yeah, her kids can take care of me.
00:28:12.320 But are you honestly going to be, like, sorry, but are you honestly going to be as happy as
00:28:17.360 you think that, let's say you're 60 or 75.
00:28:20.320 Do you honestly believe you're going to be as happy, like, let's say, for example, you
00:28:25.160 have children and those children, like, let's say you're 75 years old, you know, let's
00:28:29.820 say, for example, your husband ain't there, but you have your children who are going to
00:28:32.980 look after you.
00:28:33.800 They're going to come and if you need some shopping, they're going to come and shop for
00:28:37.180 you and all of that shit.
00:28:38.820 Do you honestly think you don't want that at 75?
00:28:41.140 Because, like, let me keep it real with you.
00:28:43.400 They might even, at 75, mandem out there, you know the mandem you're looking at right
00:28:48.320 now, they're not going to look at you when you're 75.
00:28:51.140 I'm sorry, they're going to stop looking at you when you're 50, maybe even 40.
00:28:55.360 Right.
00:28:56.240 Push it at 35, you feel me?
00:28:57.980 I'm sorry, but, like, do you honestly believe, like, keep in mind, from, like, 30, is that
00:29:04.520 someone's phone?
00:29:05.120 Sorry, his phone was going off.
00:29:06.620 So, I'm going on a bit of a rant, but, like, do you honestly.
00:29:09.100 Whoever's phone, that is, step off camera and turn it off.
00:29:11.600 We said to turn the phones off before the show.
00:29:13.460 But, go ahead.
00:29:14.400 I don't know whose phone that is.
00:29:15.220 You sound like a weird Mario game.
00:29:16.600 Yeah.
00:29:17.220 Yeah, mad takes.
00:29:18.260 But, like, honestly, do you.
00:29:20.180 The girls are sitting there.
00:29:21.980 Yeah.
00:29:22.620 Okay, I don't know whose it was.
00:29:24.740 Okay.
00:29:26.020 Okay, go ahead.
00:29:26.760 Go ahead, sorry.
00:29:27.400 But, do you honestly believe, like, after the age of 35, like, keep in mind, women in
00:29:33.700 general, they look for a certain type of man.
00:29:36.020 You feel me?
00:29:36.660 Like, if a man who's five foot two, looks like a bowling ball, you know, is, like, is smelly
00:29:42.440 and all of that.
00:29:42.920 If he walks up to you, you're not going to give him the time of day.
00:29:45.760 You feel me?
00:29:46.240 Uh-huh.
00:29:46.420 So, you want a certain type of man.
00:29:48.140 Okay.
00:29:48.680 Right?
00:29:49.400 And, whatever your standards are, understand, that certain type of man, he's going to look
00:29:54.680 for a certain type of woman.
00:29:56.120 Uh-huh.
00:29:57.180 And, I'm so sorry to tell you this, and I hope I don't get cancelled for this, but usually
00:30:02.980 women over 35, they ain't the type of man they're looking for.
00:30:05.780 Sorry, they're not the type of woman they're looking for.
00:30:08.200 You feel me?
00:30:08.980 So, do you honestly believe when you get part, sorry, how old are you?
00:30:12.440 I'm 26.
00:30:13.240 26.
00:30:14.060 You've lived 26 years of your life already.
00:30:16.880 I have.
00:30:17.240 You feel me?
00:30:18.400 Do you honestly, and do you know how long 26 years are?
00:30:20.800 But, you know, because you've lived 26 years, you feel me, when you get to that 50, you're
00:30:25.600 going to live up to that 75, 80.
00:30:27.680 Uh-huh.
00:30:28.360 Do you honestly believe that time by yourself is going to be an enjoyable time?
00:30:33.060 Um, so, yeah, so, I want to bring up a couple of points that you mentioned.
00:30:36.000 So, first things first, like, I don't want to bring kids into this world with the intention
00:30:40.440 of having somebody to take care of me.
00:30:43.100 Okay.
00:30:43.460 So, let's start there.
00:30:45.600 It's not why you have children.
00:30:47.900 Yeah.
00:30:48.260 The second point that I want to make is that I happen to live in one of the greatest
00:30:53.500 generations that ever exists, where if, for whatever reason, I didn't have children
00:30:58.100 and I wasn't able to leave my bed, I can just take out my phone and Amazon, whatever
00:31:03.980 I need.
00:31:04.840 Straight to my next step.
00:31:05.640 Oh, stop it.
00:31:07.140 What did I do?
00:31:08.080 It's on Amazon.
00:31:08.820 It doesn't.
00:31:10.640 Guys, stop, stop, stop.
00:31:12.020 Everyone, you can't go out at the same time.
00:31:13.780 Don't you think that's lonely?
00:31:15.300 No, no, you guys really lack community.
00:31:18.540 Like, and I'm not saying like you specifically, I'm saying like, I, I'm able to find so much
00:31:23.120 satisfaction and joy and peace and goodness and, and fulfillment in, in my friends and,
00:31:28.540 and my other relationships.
00:31:29.740 I think that's easy as a young woman.
00:31:31.280 I think the point he's making is the world treats you different after like 45 or 50.
00:31:35.340 I believe that.
00:31:36.100 So as, so as a young woman, like you're treated better by the world.
00:31:40.420 And so, because you're young, you're attractive, you're pretty.
00:31:43.740 And so, and so it's like, you're going to hit 45, 50.
00:31:46.620 The world's going to look at you different.
00:31:47.860 You start to be treated like a man.
00:31:50.020 No, I'm serious.
00:31:51.220 There's
00:31:52.820 I'm already bald.
00:31:53.580 I'm halfway there.
00:31:54.660 The moment mandem stop buying you drinks, you're going to see the world differently.
00:31:58.980 You're going to the club right now.
00:32:00.340 And mandem was like, ah, can I buy you a drink?
00:32:02.700 Oh, you're so beautiful.
00:32:03.820 And all that kind of stuff.
00:32:05.340 Listen, the moment you hit 35, that's going to stop.
00:32:08.580 Someone might stop him.
00:32:10.200 Like, what is this man saying?
00:32:15.140 I love the.
00:32:16.060 I'm speaking reality.
00:32:17.240 What?
00:32:17.880 I love the concept of.
00:32:21.120 What's your, what's your issue with what he's saying?
00:32:22.920 Everything.
00:32:23.620 Okay.
00:32:23.940 He's, first of all, he's being so heteronormative.
00:32:25.820 Like, like, these are a lot of assumptions that he's making right now.
00:32:29.680 What is, what is heteronormative?
00:32:30.680 I don't know what that means.
00:32:31.680 Heteronormative is just making, making an assumption that someone is heterosexual, first
00:32:35.900 of all.
00:32:36.900 So as this entire line, this whole monologue he's doing is assuming that she's only interested
00:32:42.600 in men and that she's only interested in what a man wants or what a man could see in
00:32:48.600 her.
00:32:49.600 I mean, I think that's not, that's like, that's, that's just not what life is.
00:32:52.900 Like, I, I mean, I'm not going to, like, not just, you're just making a lot of assumptions
00:32:57.400 and running down the street with them.
00:32:59.400 And I understand the logic behind where he's coming from.
00:33:02.580 Like, I'm not saying that he's being like, he's being illogical, but because he's basing
00:33:07.380 all of his, from my perspective, a lot of where your sounding board of information is,
00:33:13.300 is your foundation is heteronormativity, misogyny, and the fact that like, and it's just not,
00:33:20.400 it's just not in alignment with where I, where I find my foundation.
00:33:26.660 So I'm like pushing back on the opinions that he has.
00:33:29.400 So heteronormative, I, I still think it would be sad if you were a single lesbian woman.
00:33:35.400 So like, I like, I think it's like, personally.
00:33:37.400 Well, like, we're also like making assumptions that she's single.
00:33:40.560 She didn't say that.
00:33:41.460 She just said that she doesn't want to have children or, or yeah, fair enough.
00:33:45.400 But like, this like whole conversation was under the perspective of whether or not she would
00:33:49.220 be happy without having children.
00:33:51.220 And then the second, the second.
00:33:52.220 Yeah.
00:33:53.220 I mean, it's a, it's a valid question.
00:33:54.220 I think.
00:33:55.220 Yeah.
00:33:56.220 Your answer could be, I would be perfectly happy, but I just.
00:33:57.220 Which is what she said over and over and over again.
00:34:00.220 And he's trying to like, break down why she's wrong and all these possible scenarios.
00:34:04.220 I mean, I think he's just putting out points that maybe she didn't think about and maybe
00:34:07.780 she has, and maybe like, but I think that's what we're supposed to do on a podcast is explore
00:34:11.220 ideas.
00:34:12.220 Fair enough.
00:34:13.220 And I'm, and I'm exploring the idea that I think he's wrong.
00:34:15.220 Okay.
00:34:16.220 So what do you, what do you think?
00:34:17.220 Wait, wait.
00:34:18.220 So what do you, what do you think?
00:34:19.220 Uh, what, what is it that he said misogynistic?
00:34:21.220 I think that like making the, the assumption that like her, the prospects of her life, her
00:34:28.220 future happiness is based upon whether or not a man, an objectively, a man would find her
00:34:33.220 attractive after the age of like, what?
00:34:35.220 35 that he said for me is like, is like, is misogynist.
00:34:40.220 Oh, I think that's true.
00:34:42.220 I don't.
00:34:43.220 I told that.
00:34:44.220 I think that's your opinion.
00:34:45.220 Yeah.
00:34:46.220 I mean, I think it's true.
00:34:47.220 I think most women aren't happy that are, that are single childless over the age of like
00:34:51.220 45.
00:34:52.220 They're the least happy demographic.
00:34:53.220 I, that's interesting.
00:34:54.220 That's interesting.
00:34:55.220 I just, I just could not get behind that.
00:34:57.220 I was asking if you have statistics on that.
00:34:59.220 Really?
00:35:00.220 Yeah.
00:35:01.220 There's like multiple.
00:35:02.220 What about single black women?
00:35:03.220 Do you have statistics all about black women?
00:35:06.220 Like, because like, I feel like, and I, the only reason I'm asking this is because I feel
00:35:10.220 like, we like black women, from my perspective, again, I'm only speaking from my perspective.
00:35:16.220 We are very, we have such a strong, like sense of community that like, I, I just, we don't
00:35:23.220 have, I just feel like our, our culture is different.
00:35:26.220 So those types of statistics, I think, aren't going to be applicable across.
00:35:30.220 I think it is applicable to black women.
00:35:33.220 I must say.
00:35:34.220 I think it's applicable genetically and biologically.
00:35:37.220 Very, very.
00:35:38.220 I think, I think biologically.
00:35:39.220 Can I just say one thing real quick, right?
00:35:41.220 I understand people that I'm five foot six, give or take half an inch in it.
00:35:46.220 So at the end of the day, my entire life, I have felt the effects of not being the societal
00:35:54.220 standard of what women expect to, you feel me?
00:35:57.220 So at the end of the day, like for example, I'm a man.
00:36:00.220 Like I can either cry about it and be like, ah, no, women don't like me because I'm sure
00:36:05.220 whatever, or I can do something about it.
00:36:08.220 For example, for me personally, I started boxing.
00:36:11.220 You feel me?
00:36:12.220 So like I started boxing and I tried to show that, you know what?
00:36:15.220 I'm on the shorter side of things, but I can still protect you.
00:36:18.220 Do you get it?
00:36:19.220 And like, at the end of the day, life throws certain things at you and you just kind of
00:36:24.220 have to deal with it.
00:36:25.220 Now, as a woman, there are certain things and I'm so sorry to tell you this, but there
00:36:30.220 are certain things you can do that can completely ruin it for you.
00:36:34.220 For example, if you're a woman and you have OnlyFans, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to
00:36:39.220 take you seriously.
00:36:40.220 That's your opinion.
00:36:41.220 Do you get it?
00:36:42.220 That is right.
00:36:43.220 But here's the thing.
00:36:44.220 Here's the thing.
00:36:45.220 Look, look, understand.
00:36:46.220 I'm an average man.
00:36:47.220 I'm not a rich guy or anything like that.
00:36:48.220 But I can tell you right now, a millionaire, if he's looking at you and he knows you've got
00:36:53.220 OnlyFans, he's not going to take you seriously.
00:36:55.220 Because there's certain things us mandem look for.
00:36:57.220 You feel me?
00:36:58.220 Nah.
00:36:59.220 I'm curious.
00:37:00.220 Do any guys, any of you take an OnlyFans model seriously?
00:37:03.220 No way.
00:37:04.220 No way.
00:37:05.220 Nope.
00:37:06.220 No, I've not.
00:37:07.220 But, do you know what?
00:37:08.220 No.
00:37:09.220 What?
00:37:10.220 Don't sit.
00:37:11.220 What?
00:37:12.220 The dude for the money.
00:37:14.220 Girl, you want a mic?
00:37:16.220 I'm sorry.
00:37:17.220 I'm on the forecast though.
00:37:19.220 Thank you.
00:37:20.220 Sorry, go ahead.
00:37:21.220 So, no guys here.
00:37:22.220 So, go ahead.
00:37:23.220 Nah.
00:37:24.220 So, personally, I think you can always argue like, like,
00:37:28.220 people would never take them seriously and your value goes down.
00:37:31.220 But it depends what kind of value you're looking at.
00:37:34.220 So, like, their financial value goes up.
00:37:36.220 Their sexual value goes up.
00:37:38.220 No.
00:37:39.220 Yeah.
00:37:40.220 In terms of, for women, OnlyFans.
00:37:42.220 Sexual value.
00:37:43.220 No.
00:37:44.220 Can I just quickly clarify?
00:37:45.220 How does their sexual value go up?
00:37:47.220 So, I feel like, once people see you've got OnlyFans,
00:37:49.220 there's always going to be people in public, they'll say, nah,
00:37:52.220 I'd never be with someone from OnlyFans.
00:37:53.220 But check their DMs.
00:37:54.220 Nah, most will be there for a night.
00:37:56.220 Yeah.
00:37:57.220 But check their DMs and you'll see some-
00:38:00.220 Okay.
00:38:01.220 Okay.
00:38:02.220 Okay.
00:38:03.220 I'll give you an example.
00:38:04.220 Like, look at Lana Rhodes.
00:38:05.220 She can't even keep a man.
00:38:06.220 She used to be my favorite.
00:38:07.220 She used to be my favorite.
00:38:08.220 She used to be my favorite.
00:38:09.220 But that's one person from that.
00:38:12.220 I know.
00:38:13.220 But that's like, what?
00:38:14.220 One of the most-
00:38:15.220 She was a top.
00:38:16.220 She was a top paid.
00:38:17.220 I would argue one of the most beautiful women.
00:38:18.220 I mean, I don't know.
00:38:19.220 I don't, I'm not a consumer of that content.
00:38:21.220 We don't eat corn.
00:38:22.220 We don't eat corn.
00:38:23.220 But is that part of-
00:38:24.220 I feel like it changes across the demographic.
00:38:26.220 Obviously, that's someone that we've looked at from a different one.
00:38:29.220 But there's people like-
00:38:31.220 I'm not sure if any of you have heard of Ruby Rose, someone else.
00:38:34.220 Yeah.
00:38:35.220 But there's people, and people will look at her and still be like, wow.
00:38:37.220 That's still a no.
00:38:38.220 No, no, no.
00:38:39.220 You're still a no.
00:38:40.220 No, no, no.
00:38:41.220 She's got OnlyFans.
00:38:42.220 She's got OnlyFans.
00:38:43.220 Guys, guys, stop.
00:38:44.220 Stop, stop.
00:38:45.220 One of them.
00:38:46.220 So that's what I said.
00:38:47.220 Her sexual value went up.
00:38:48.220 You'd still smash.
00:38:49.220 I didn't say you'd want to be in a relationship with her.
00:38:50.220 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:38:51.220 But I said her sexual value is viral.
00:38:52.220 Wait.
00:38:53.220 So your sexual value, but your relationship-
00:38:54.220 Like what guy's going to take you serious after that?
00:38:55.220 Nobody.
00:38:56.220 But then some people might.
00:38:57.220 I think-
00:38:58.220 No, no, no.
00:38:59.220 I'm sorry.
00:39:00.220 I mean, wait, wait.
00:39:01.220 I mean a simp, mate.
00:39:04.220 I know.
00:39:05.220 See?
00:39:06.220 But see, this is simp culture.
00:39:07.220 People are going to be like, ah, do you know what?
00:39:09.220 You're on OnlyFans.
00:39:10.220 I see you.
00:39:11.220 No, no, no.
00:39:12.220 Can I just mention one thing real quick?
00:39:13.220 That's part of the decay of society.
00:39:15.220 Can I just say real quick, and this is the majority of women that need to understand
00:39:20.220 this, right?
00:39:21.220 Mandam, we have two separate categories, right?
00:39:24.220 We have one category, which is for fun, and then there's the one category that is for
00:39:29.220 seriousness.
00:39:30.220 You feel me?
00:39:31.220 Now, understand, when you see all these Insta hoes, sorry, can I say hoes?
00:39:35.220 That Insta hoes and all that, like, who are, you know, dressing up in their bikini
00:39:39.220 and all of that, that's us mandam, like, just enjoying a woman who's being, you know,
00:39:45.220 showing off her body and all of that.
00:39:47.220 But that's a separate category.
00:39:49.220 Us mandam, when we want to take someone seriously, we're looking at different things,
00:39:53.220 and that's not usually the hoes things that the majority of women are showing off these
00:39:58.220 days.
00:39:59.220 Do you understand?
00:40:00.220 There's two different categories.
00:40:01.220 There's the fun category and the relationship category.
00:40:03.220 Okay, what were you going to suit her hand up first?
00:40:05.220 Go ahead.
00:40:06.220 I was just going to ask, like, so would you guys, okay, so we were talking about, like,
00:40:10.220 the millionaire wouldn't take the OnlyFans seriously, and most people say, like, in order
00:40:15.220 to become a millionaire, you have to have at least six streams of income.
00:40:17.220 So would you guys genuinely, in a relationship or even, like, as a married couple, would you
00:40:23.220 guys pass off an opportunity for a stream of income if your wife was inviting you to create
00:40:29.220 the OnlyFans content with you?
00:40:30.220 Absolutely.
00:40:31.220 Absolutely.
00:40:32.220 I pass all the way up on that.
00:40:35.220 Repeat the question.
00:40:36.220 I wouldn't want my wife putting out her body.
00:40:38.220 But you're making it with her.
00:40:40.220 It doesn't matter.
00:40:41.220 I wouldn't sell that to nobody.
00:40:42.220 Would anyone screw their wife on camera for OnlyFans?
00:40:45.220 It's sexual stuff.
00:40:46.220 Anyone, raise your hand.
00:40:47.220 Raise your hand.
00:40:48.220 Hell no.
00:40:49.220 Anyone would do it?
00:40:50.220 Anyone?
00:40:51.220 No, thank you.
00:40:52.220 I would take three jobs, night-day shifts, day shifts, night shifts.
00:40:57.220 What if you didn't have to show your face?
00:40:59.220 To make sure that I wouldn't have to do that.
00:41:02.220 That's assuming someone knows your identity.
00:41:03.220 I would do seven days a week, six months straight.
00:41:05.220 It's a creepy culture, man.
00:41:06.220 It's a creepy culture.
00:41:07.220 Guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys, guys.
00:41:10.220 This is, stop.
00:41:11.220 Stop.
00:41:12.220 This is one at a time.
00:41:14.220 One at a time.
00:41:15.220 Okay.
00:41:16.220 Go ahead.
00:41:17.220 To add to the women staying single and lonely after 35, there's a study that says that
00:41:26.220 women in this generation, after they reach 35 plus, they're going to, I think it's going
00:41:32.220 to be like, what, half of the women, they're going to be single and lonely?
00:41:35.220 Oh, it's women.
00:41:36.220 Women, actually, it's 50, 50.
00:41:38.220 You've got to stop.
00:41:39.220 You don't have a mic.
00:41:40.220 You've got one more chance to hear where you have to go out.
00:41:45.220 So it's 50% of women, or 45% of women between the ages of 25 and 45 are predicted to be single
00:41:52.220 and childless.
00:41:53.220 So much so that big investors are, so that means out of all of us, half of us will be
00:41:57.220 single and childless.
00:41:59.220 The one right there.
00:42:00.220 And basically so much so that places like Morgan Stanley are investing in things like
00:42:11.220 wine, cat food, and anything that like all the marketing campaigns are like convincing
00:42:18.220 women that they could be young forever.
00:42:20.220 Any marketing campaign that's basically convincing women that like, what is it, ageism?
00:42:25.220 Like you're beautiful even at 50.
00:42:26.220 It's like, come on.
00:42:27.220 Come on.
00:42:28.220 I'm sorry.
00:42:29.220 Can I just say something real quick?
00:42:33.220 Listen, I really don't understand.
00:42:35.220 I'm going to sound so misogynistic right now.
00:42:38.220 I'm so sorry about this.
00:42:39.220 But like, I really don't understand women these days.
00:42:42.220 Like, it is so clear that there's someone, I'm not saying it's the government or Illuminati
00:42:49.220 or whatever in it, but there's something going on where people are just trying to push women
00:42:53.220 into this industry where you're going to have to work, you're going to have to be this boss
00:42:57.220 bitch or whatever.
00:42:58.220 And like, understand this, the only people that have changed since 1950 are the women.
00:43:05.220 You feel me?
00:43:06.220 Like, mandom, I'm going to keep it real with you right now.
00:43:09.220 Ladies on the panel, take this in as game.
00:43:12.220 Mandom, really appreciate traditional things.
00:43:16.220 You feel me?
00:43:17.220 Like, no.
00:43:18.220 I'm sorry to bring it to myself, but my girl is very traditional.
00:43:20.220 And the reason I am so faithful to her is because she is traditional.
00:43:24.220 You feel me?
00:43:25.220 What?
00:43:26.220 But you know, I don't understand.
00:43:27.220 And it all comes with submissiveness and all of that.
00:43:30.220 Like, sorry to trick anyone, but my girl asks me for permission to wear what she wears.
00:43:35.220 You feel me?
00:43:36.220 Okay, okay.
00:43:37.220 I'm going to let you go, and then I'm excited to hear what you have to say.
00:43:40.220 Yeah.
00:43:41.220 And then we'll get to, okay, start with you.
00:43:42.220 I've got three points to make.
00:43:43.220 Okay.
00:43:44.220 One, know your category and where you sit as a woman.
00:43:47.220 All of us are different.
00:43:49.220 We all require different things.
00:43:50.220 We all like different things.
00:43:51.220 So we like a different type of man.
00:43:54.220 Two, you said about-
00:43:55.220 No, we all like the same man.
00:43:56.220 That's not true.
00:43:57.220 That's not true.
00:43:58.220 That's not true.
00:43:59.220 No, no, no.
00:44:00.220 When I say that, I mean, you know, physicality, preference.
00:44:04.220 For example, I like black men.
00:44:06.220 That's my preference.
00:44:07.220 That's a lot of women.
00:44:08.220 No, no, I know.
00:44:09.220 But that's a lot of-
00:44:10.220 What I'm saying is we all know the reality is we all don't like exactly the same things.
00:44:15.220 Maybe in-
00:44:16.220 If you want to be generalist-
00:44:17.220 We do.
00:44:18.220 Anyway, absolutely do.
00:44:19.220 Okay, cool, cool, cool.
00:44:21.220 Second of all, I just wanted to say on the back of what you said and what Pearl said, can
00:44:27.220 everybody acknowledge there's less women than men in the world anyway?
00:44:31.220 So there's-
00:44:32.220 There's more women than men.
00:44:33.220 I believe there's more.
00:44:34.220 Sorry, the other way around.
00:44:35.220 Sorry, sorry.
00:44:36.220 I meant to say the other way around.
00:44:37.220 Yeah.
00:44:38.220 So there's more women than men in the world anyway.
00:44:39.220 So there's going to be more single women.
00:44:40.220 It's going to be that way because there is less men in-
00:44:43.220 Yeah, less men in the world.
00:44:45.220 If you want to have certain requirements as a woman, you either have to be of a certain
00:44:52.220 standard yourself.
00:44:53.220 And I mean, when I mean standard, I mean the way you carry yourself.
00:44:57.220 You know, if your body is what you lead with, then that's- men just look at you as a physical
00:45:02.220 object.
00:45:03.220 And they will exploit that because that's what men do.
00:45:05.220 And not all men, but if you're going to advertise your body, that's what men are going
00:45:11.220 to look at.
00:45:12.220 You know, a lot of women, they will do OnlyFans and that kind of thing.
00:45:16.220 And then when they get to an age where they're no longer relevant, younger girls are coming
00:45:21.220 up better than them.
00:45:22.220 Then they go to church.
00:45:23.220 Then they want to turn around and say, oh, please, you know, take me now.
00:45:28.220 And the problem is, the problem is with that, when you want them to take you, you've already
00:45:33.220 surpassed your most-
00:45:35.220 I don't want to say-
00:45:36.220 Prime.
00:45:37.220 It's not about fertile.
00:45:38.220 It's not, but you've passed your peak.
00:45:39.220 You're prime.
00:45:40.220 You're prime.
00:45:41.220 And it's natural.
00:45:42.220 That's the only thing that's changed that for us is plastic surgery, makeup.
00:45:46.220 And so societal standards overall, and it's not everybody, but realistically, you have
00:45:53.220 to look at back in the day, there was no Photoshop.
00:45:56.220 Everyone couldn't buy makeup.
00:45:58.220 Everyone couldn't change their hair every week.
00:46:00.220 You know, you had a role to play.
00:46:01.220 And if you're not willing to play your role, no matter how big or small you think it is,
00:46:06.220 it adds up.
00:46:07.220 It adds up.
00:46:08.220 That's it.
00:46:09.220 Can I say something?
00:46:10.220 No, it's her turn.
00:46:11.220 So-
00:46:12.220 My turn?
00:46:13.220 Yeah.
00:46:14.220 You said you had something.
00:46:15.220 You seem like you wanted to talk.
00:46:16.220 Oh, I have so many things.
00:46:17.220 Okay.
00:46:18.220 Go ahead.
00:46:19.220 But it seems like, I mean, I'll yield like someone-
00:46:20.220 You'll yield.
00:46:21.220 Okay.
00:46:22.220 I think you were next and then you can go.
00:46:23.220 Okay.
00:46:24.220 You had something before.
00:46:25.220 You were raising your hand.
00:46:26.220 Oh yeah.
00:46:27.220 Wait, what was the original question?
00:46:30.220 Sorry.
00:46:31.220 Okay.
00:46:32.220 Now you can go.
00:46:33.220 I don't, I don't really understand what's the, what's the push for women to shame men
00:46:38.220 for their standards.
00:46:39.220 Like if men don't want women above 35, so what?
00:46:43.220 Yeah.
00:46:44.220 I don't, who's shaming you?
00:46:45.220 It's not, it's not shaming.
00:46:46.220 It's like, if I don't want a woman to be fat, am I fat shaming?
00:46:50.220 Like, I don't understand this.
00:46:52.220 It's like women can say they want men who are six foot and they want a washboard abs and
00:46:58.220 all this.
00:46:59.220 And you don't see men on the streets crying that they, they, they're being, you know.
00:47:04.220 Where's the, the short, short man positivity?
00:47:07.220 Exactly.
00:47:08.220 Exactly.
00:47:09.220 See?
00:47:10.220 Where's the short man positivity?
00:47:11.220 I'm sorry.
00:47:12.220 Can I speak on that?
00:47:13.220 Everything is misogyny.
00:47:14.220 Everything is misogyny.
00:47:15.220 Everything is patriarchy.
00:47:16.220 I don't think that that's true.
00:47:18.220 No, no, no.
00:47:19.220 I don't think that's true.
00:47:20.220 Take this in.
00:47:21.220 People is entitled to having their own, like no one's, no one's going on you for having
00:47:25.220 standards.
00:47:26.220 Wait, I think that's, I think that's easy from like a woman's point of view.
00:47:30.220 Um, because a lot of times like we don't notice it, but it's like every time a man has standards,
00:47:34.220 there's always a woman shaming him for having them.
00:47:36.220 So like, for example, when a guy says, I don't like, I don't like fat chicks that like, then
00:47:40.220 all of a sudden he's fat phobic.
00:47:41.220 If he says, if he says, I don't, I don't like sluts, then like they have, then they have
00:47:45.220 the slut walk.
00:47:46.220 If he says that I don't like, um, yeah, but like every, every time that a man has standards,
00:47:52.220 he's shamed for it.
00:47:53.220 I don't, but I don't think that's a quote unquote a standard.
00:47:55.220 I think that's like that, like the way, the way I'm interpreting what you just said is,
00:48:00.220 and maybe it may not be in the way that you, that you mean, but when someone's saying,
00:48:04.220 I don't like fat chicks, like that to me is fat shaming.
00:48:08.220 No, obviously, obviously.
00:48:09.220 How can you argue that that isn't fat?
00:48:12.220 I don't, I don't like to date.
00:48:13.220 Fine.
00:48:14.220 Fine.
00:48:15.220 I don't like to date fat chicks.
00:48:16.220 That's how, wait, I said, I don't like to date fat chicks, but I can say on air, I don't
00:48:21.220 like to date short men.
00:48:22.220 I'm six foot.
00:48:23.220 If a guy's significantly shorter than me, I'm just not going to go for it.
00:48:26.220 But as I said, we're allowed to have preferences.
00:48:29.220 Women are, but men aren't.
00:48:30.220 No, no, men are, but the thing, the different, no, no, this is the problem.
00:48:34.220 And I'll tell you what the problem is.
00:48:35.220 Social media has given people a voice at echo chamber.
00:48:38.220 Remember, if there was no socials, you wouldn't really be hearing about it.
00:48:42.220 You would have to accept your fate as a man and live and walk through it without this echo chamber like the podcast.
00:48:47.220 Right now, because there's been a nature that's, I don't know, being bestowed upon us with technology.
00:48:55.220 We're constantly hearing men have to have this, men have to have that.
00:48:58.220 And the reality is they'd actually, they don't, they don't actually have to have it.
00:49:03.220 Yeah.
00:49:04.220 Because the reason why they don't have to have it is because if they're the provider in the relationship, they have the power to execute the woman out of the relationship.
00:49:14.220 If they want to, if they're willing to lose half of their property.
00:49:18.220 Wait, wait, wait.
00:49:19.220 No, no, no.
00:49:20.220 Hang on, hang on.
00:49:21.220 Do you think it's really that easy to be a man and be able to provide?
00:49:24.220 Yeah, but no.
00:49:25.220 Wait, wait, wait.
00:49:26.220 I'm sorry.
00:49:27.220 Take this in, right?
00:49:28.220 Yeah.
00:49:29.220 Once again, I'm a five foot six man, give or take half an inch, right?
00:49:32.220 Mm-hmm.
00:49:33.220 Majority of my life, women have told me to my face.
00:49:36.220 Yo.
00:49:37.220 Hey, you know what?
00:49:38.220 I find you attractive.
00:49:39.220 Your vibe is cool.
00:49:40.220 But you know what?
00:49:41.220 Just a little bit too short.
00:49:42.220 You feel me?
00:49:43.220 Me as a man, I can't cry about it.
00:49:44.220 You feel me?
00:49:45.220 Yeah.
00:49:46.220 It's called natural selection.
00:49:48.220 Do you know what I've actually been learning recently is that you can survive off of one
00:49:53.940 income in places like the UK and then the US.
00:49:57.600 I talked to someone that raised 10 foster kids off of $10,000 per year and she still maintains
00:50:02.240 that income.
00:50:03.240 But the problem is women spend frivolously and they don't want that to go down in lifestyle
00:50:07.880 for a family, typically.
00:50:08.880 Sorry, Pam.
00:50:09.880 And I have data about that.
00:50:10.880 Sorry, Pam.
00:50:11.880 Did you say 10K per year, one person in the house?
00:50:13.880 No.
00:50:14.880 10 people in the house.
00:50:15.880 10 people in the house.
00:50:16.880 Yeah.
00:50:17.880 Probably outside of London.
00:50:18.880 I could.
00:50:19.880 I could.
00:50:20.880 I could.
00:50:21.880 Think about it.
00:50:22.880 If you know.
00:50:23.880 10 people in a year.
00:50:24.880 Is that rent and stuff included?
00:50:25.880 That is a mutton.
00:50:26.880 Yeah.
00:50:27.880 Outside of London, you probably can.
00:50:28.880 I run like those to the city.
00:50:29.880 I run like those to the city.