Women Should Be Held ACCOUNTABLE For This
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the recent case of a woman who lied to her boyfriend about being on birth control and getting pregnant with his kid. We discuss the implications of this, and if the boyfriend should have any rights to the child.
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Have any of you ever told a guy you were on birth control when you weren't?
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No. Yeah, everyone, like, I think that you have to be transparent about that.
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She told him that she was on and she wasn't, and she got what she wanted.
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Do you think that in that situation, since she lied, that he shouldn't have any rights
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to the, or that he should be able to get rid of his rights to the kid?
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So he was, he was performing off of something that, you know, off of the security that she
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No, but I mean, so when he has the kid, or when she had, I'm assuming she had the kid.
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So did, do you think that in that case that he should be able to sign off all rights?
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I mean, when you say it like that, because it's, it's, it's in a way where it wasn't
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his choice because had he known he wouldn't have made that choice.
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I mean, rightfully the kid's there at the end of the day.
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So I mean, whether he wants it or not, unfortunately that's his seed, that's his future.
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Um, but yeah, it is in his hands to make that decision.
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Um, but then it comes into, do you want to be a father?
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What type of father do you want to be to that kid that you weren't ready for?
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What do you, who, who, who do you know that lied?
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Oh, I, I know someone that got into a bad situation because they, um, well, they didn't
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lie that they were on birth control, but they lied that they were bulimic.
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So they're making themselves sick while taking birth control, um, which obviously makes it
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They, they worked things out and like they're a happy couple now, but, um, it was a big,
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Do you, do you guys think that should be punishable as a crime?
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If, if you lie about it, like, obviously if an accident happens, it's an accident.
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But yeah, if you lie about it, then yeah, a hundred percent.
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It's, I would say that's like a similar thing, but I don't think that means you should sign
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But you don't think if the woman has the right to get an abortion, he should have the right
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Cause like, you don't think if the woman has a right not to be a mother, he should have
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the right not to be a father, especially if he was coerced into doing it.
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No, because I think if a woman, an abortion is different.
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Like, so if, if a woman's great, I have to say great.
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Do you, do you think she should be able to get an abortion?
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But I think abortion is different to when the baby is at the point of a baby in your arms.
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And when you have sex in general, you take the risk, whether someone's lied to you about
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the risk or not, isn't that that's a terrible thing to happen, but you still take the risk
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of that 1% of, oh, this woman could get pregnant, even if you think she is on birth control.
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But what if the woman wants to give up the kid for adoption?
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If the father wants the baby, the father should be able to have full custody and the woman
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No, but I'm saying, I'm saying if she wants to give up the kid for adoption, she should
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But so I'm saying if he didn't sign up to be a father, like, why should he be forced
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No, I think that when every single time you have, every time I have sex with my boyfriend,
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there is a small percentage chance that I could get pregnant.
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And we both have sex knowing that that could happen.
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When you do it with a stranger, you know that that's a small percentage.
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Yeah, but the women, we're the only ones that can have all the information up front.
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My point is like, there's no male birth control.
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So women, we can, when we have sex, like we have all the information.
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We know if we're ovulating, we know if we're going to take a plan B, we know if we're on
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Where the men, it's like they have the option condom or no condom.
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But even with like plan B, that's not that effective because if you are, plan B only works
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So if you're ovulating at the time that you have sex, it does nothing.
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And you only can get pregnant like three days a month.
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Pregnant, you know, it's never deliberate, is it?
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But I'm saying in this case, it was deliberate.
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So it's just interesting because I feel like if he's not able to sign off his rights when
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she does something wrong, like why wouldn't she just keep doing it?
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I just, I don't think that that's a real problem.
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The NBA issued statements telling the men to wear condoms because all these models
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I mean, do you think Drake wanted to get pregnant, a corn star pregnant?
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That's like a very specific issue based on very, very wealthy men.
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Like when you have a lot of wealth and you have a lot of like fame, you are obviously
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at more risk of people taking you to court, of people abusing you in every single way.
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So like, that's a very specific thing to NBA stars that like your average Joe.
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But it happens to a lot of men that aren't NBA stars.
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And I think there's a lot of men that are in, I'd say, comfortable positions that women
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would want to be in that situation with them and see an opportunity.
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I think, you know, there's a lot of women out there that sometimes even just get to a
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state where they become selfish because they might receive news that they might not be
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able to ovulate as much in the next two years or whatever the situation may be.
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But for me, I think on both behalves, it is kind of selfish in a sense where I think it's
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wrong when a woman does that anyway, because that's unfair on the child.
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Forget about even the man's rights, the rights as a child to be able to be accessible and
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my parents to both be accessible, I think is so important.
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So me taking away the opportunity of my child having their father in their life before they're
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So before we even get to a point of the man's rights, what about that child's rights?
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Yeah, I think it's happened to a couple of the boys actually.
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But yeah, it's just something that is just so unfair.
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And I just feel that, yeah, men just literally have no right at all.
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And if it is something that's deliberate, for me, I just don't think a baby deserves
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Especially if the father's not ready and it's come from a lie.
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I think the dad should have a decision on, you know, what happens to unfortunately the baby.
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But the dad has had a decision to put a condom on in the first place.
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Well, I mean, that's going to be pretty obvious, right?
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If she's going to lie about being on birth control, then, you know, that does happen.
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I know it's a rarity, but if you're going to go...
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In that case, though, even if, like, a man is coerced into having that child, I still
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Even if he thought it was a much slimmer chance than it was.
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And that woman should be treated as if she's treated.
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But then don't you think in the case of abortion, like, that she took that risk?
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It's just interesting because this sounds like equality when it benefits us.
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What do you mean by, like, when abortion's involved?
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So if I have an accidental pregnancy, I can terminate it up to six months in the UK.
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But men don't have the right not to be fathers.
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So it's like, why do we call the man a deadbeat dad, but we don't call the woman a deadbeat mom
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And so I'm saying if we really want equality, like, why wouldn't we make it equal where the men can sign off?
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But I think that's like how, again, we'd want an ideal world to be.
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Like, unfortunate on the men's behalf in the world, because that's something that they're out of control of.
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There's a lot of things I'd say, like in a relationship or in other situations, us women are out of control of.
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And it's not until a man decides to commit that we get that relationship.
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I'd say we're more prepared for them than they are.
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So if we go after the top 20% of men who you have to compete for, then it's the balls in their court.
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But for the average guy, there's men at Tesco down the street that would date you tomorrow.
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So it's really in our control, because we pick who we go after.
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And if you want to go after someone more competitive, it's going to be harder.
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But then I feel like them men sometimes take advantage of the fact that they are part of that 20%
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and then sell women dreams instead of allowing a woman to actually make that decision for themselves.
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Like, for example, you might meet a guy, like you said, NBA player, footballer, whatever.
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However, he could have children that no one knows about.
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