JustPearlyThings - Women Who Abandon Their Children (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

00:00:00.240 Do we need men? 1.00

00:00:02.880 Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless. 0.99

00:00:08.480 This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye. 0.98

00:00:11.400 Most young men are single, most young women are not.

00:00:14.400 Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.

00:00:19.080 It's a different world now, like we don't need men the way that they used to.

00:00:22.120 Nobody needs men! 1.00

00:00:23.360 The future is female. 1.00

00:00:24.960 Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it. 0.99

00:00:32.860 A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.

00:00:36.160 You've kind of got the trad con versus red pill thing.

00:00:38.860 This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.

00:00:42.420 You need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.

00:00:46.500 Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.

00:00:48.980 It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.

00:00:52.080 Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married. 0.99

00:00:57.080 Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.

00:01:00.720 One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.

00:01:04.400 She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.

00:01:07.200 Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.

00:01:12.380 Gee, what could go wrong there?

00:01:14.460 74% or something of divorces are initiated by women. 0.53

00:01:18.140 Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children. 0.81

00:01:20.780 Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws. 0.73

00:01:23.700 I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.

00:01:28.640 Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.

00:01:31.860 You need no evidence.

00:01:32.980 When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for,

00:01:36.660 and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.

00:01:40.040 I interviewed them on the other side.

00:01:41.780 I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.

00:01:45.020 How much did you spend trying to get him back?

00:01:47.060 The legal fees alone was about $200,000.

00:01:49.240 Before you know it, you're homeless.

00:01:50.860 You're literally just thrown out onto the street.

00:01:52.760 We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women. 1.00

00:01:55.200 Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.

00:01:59.460 Family is a foundation of society.

00:02:01.160 Every problem in society comes from single mother homes. 1.00

00:02:04.300 A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness. 1.00

00:02:08.660 Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women. 1.00

00:02:10.600 We tell women to date as many guys as possible.

00:02:12.400 We tell them to put off family into marriage. 0.99

00:02:13.900 You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.

00:02:16.940 You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.

00:02:21.380 Oh, freeze your eggs. 1.00

00:02:22.180 Have an abortion. 0.73

00:02:23.200 What? 1.00

00:02:23.600 You're evil.

00:02:24.460 I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail. 0.81

00:02:28.260 Right.

00:02:28.520 Like, if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally,

00:02:32.920 the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.

00:02:35.180 It's self-sabotage.

00:02:36.060 That's the thing.

00:02:36.620 Like, women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy. 1.00

00:02:39.820 This is not about happiness.

00:02:41.320 The most important thing is the children, and the problem is we have a modern society

00:02:46.040 where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's

00:02:50.580 best for the kids.

00:02:52.640 This myth that we live in an age of male privilege, where's my male privilege?

00:02:56.340 They think, well, men have all the rights. 0.95

00:02:57.860 They have all the power.

00:02:59.000 Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.

00:03:01.360 Why doesn't our society care about men's rights? 0.99

00:03:04.000 I have no friends, no white, and no social life. 0.99

00:03:07.220 Men are alone in this situation.

00:03:09.140 Men are homeless.

00:03:09.760 Men are thinking about eating guns.

00:03:11.900 I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide, and they didn't do anything wrong.

00:03:16.300 How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?

00:03:21.680 The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.

00:03:25.540 Women are helplessly dependent upon men. 0.99

00:03:28.200 The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among

00:03:34.020 men than among women. 0.87

00:03:35.320 Culture is telling men, you are no good.

00:03:37.160 You've got to get your act together.

00:03:38.200 I think men have failed themselves.

00:03:40.000 What kind of a man are you?

00:03:41.280 What kind of a woman are you going to attract? 1.00

00:03:43.220 If men are in trouble, so are women. 0.66

00:03:45.860 Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.

00:03:49.540 Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man to get... 1.00

00:03:51.760 500K.

00:03:52.460 500K.

00:03:52.880 300K.

00:03:53.380 300K.

00:03:53.880 200K.

00:03:54.300 Am I crazy?

00:03:55.000 Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.

00:03:57.260 If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them. 1.00

00:04:00.820 So you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?

00:04:04.740 Women. 0.81

00:04:06.220 I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.

00:04:08.360 I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.

00:04:10.620 I'm over it.

00:04:11.780 When is it going to be my turn?

00:04:13.080 Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?

00:04:14.780 I can't keep having these same conversations.

00:04:17.660 The only simp here is you, Pearl.

00:04:18.920 You simp for men. 0.99

00:04:19.340 No, I think you simp for women. 1.00

00:04:20.940 She's a provocateur. 1.00

00:04:21.920 She says stupid stuff. 1.00

00:04:23.100 But Pearl is right about this. 1.00

00:04:24.360 It's already happening.

00:04:25.500 It's just not out in the open yet.

00:04:26.960 Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairytale ending because men don't want 0.99

00:04:30.580 a wife and women can't find a husband. 1.00

00:04:32.620 The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.

00:04:36.880 We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.

00:04:40.780 Civilization will crumble.

00:04:42.600 The American story does not end well.

00:04:45.140 This is an existential crisis failing young men.

00:04:54.440 What is going on, guys?

00:04:57.040 Welcome to another episode here of Pearl Daily.

00:05:00.120 I am your host, Pearl.

00:05:01.340 And today we're going to talk about when women take an L. 1.00

00:05:05.980 Not just any L, but the ultimate L.

00:05:08.160 Well, women that can't even be mothers, that they are such bad mothers and just overall 1.00

00:05:15.020 people, that they abandon their children.

00:05:19.080 But before we get started, guys, if you do want to support the documentary trailer that

00:05:24.160 I showed you guys bringing in, we are trying to raise $100,000 when we get to around there.

00:05:28.940 We can actually hire a team to do this documentary.

00:05:32.960 We're at $25,000, which is awesome.

00:05:35.460 You guys are amazing, but we do got to get to around $100,000.

00:05:39.000 I have a million as the goal because shooters shoot, you know what I mean?

00:05:43.140 I'm going to shoot for the stars.

00:05:44.560 If we could get, at a million dollars, we could get like a Netflix-grade documentary with the

00:05:49.500 same team that made What is a Woman? 0.98

00:05:52.320 But, you know, if we get to $100,000, I can hire.

00:05:56.600 I can, we can, it doesn't got to be like an A-level.

00:06:00.660 Anyways, so, welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.

00:06:06.420 Now, the goal of modern feminism is to hold men accountable while allowing women to do 1.00

00:06:13.440 whatever they want. 0.95

00:06:14.980 The double standards that come from this are absolutely disgusting. 0.99

00:06:19.060 A woman can be fat and be praised, but a man has to be in shape to attract a broke, fat 1.00

00:06:26.180 baby mama. 0.99

00:06:27.200 Isn't that crazy?

00:06:27.820 Women are praised for being single while men are called incels if they choose not to deal

00:06:32.980 with women.

00:06:34.000 A woman can abort a child, but a man can't give away his parental rights. 0.68

00:06:40.260 If a man doesn't want to be in a child's life, he's automatically the villain.

00:06:44.220 But if a woman does the same thing, she's praised as being stunning and brave.

00:06:50.220 It's really, it's really amazing.

00:06:51.960 Feminists in the media paint any man that is not involved with his children as a deadbeat 1.00

00:07:00.120 dad.

00:07:01.220 Never mind that most women choose to have children out of wedlock are typically their demons that 1.00

00:07:08.880 actively try to keep the children away from the father.

00:07:11.920 These women keep fathers out of their lives while still trying to pursue their own selfish 1.00

00:07:17.940 desires.

00:07:18.900 These women leave the children alone to figure out how to navigate the world by themselves. 1.00

00:07:26.740 And in extreme cases, mothers will abandon their children.

00:07:31.260 It's crazy to see that society seeks to understand why mothers walk away, but show no empathy for

00:07:38.800 men that do the same thing.

00:07:40.500 That's what we're going to talk about today.

00:07:42.180 Women that abandon their children. 0.99

00:07:45.980 So there was a talk show done with three women that left their children with their, sorry,

00:07:54.020 a woman who left her three children with the dad. 0.99

00:07:59.800 Crystal, you're divorced. 1.00

00:08:02.180 You have two kids, a 10-year-old daughter and a nine-year-old son.

00:08:05.520 Now you made the decision to leave them with their dad just four months ago.

00:08:11.080 Yes.

00:08:11.360 Why?

00:08:12.640 Because ultimately it's because 50-50 shared care doesn't work.

00:08:17.040 And I've been, I guess we tried to do this for a while.

00:08:22.860 And I don't think 50-50 shared care works when you have lots of conflict between two parents.

00:08:29.560 After I had tried to seek relocation of the kids to come to Sydney, back to Sydney to

00:08:34.680 live, because we were living in Port Macquarie.

00:08:36.920 Which is on the north coast.

00:08:38.400 It is.

00:08:38.860 So it's four and a half hours away, but there's not a lot of employment opportunities.

00:08:43.080 And yeah, just didn't have anything more to offer for me.

00:08:46.060 And I came back to Sydney to work.

00:08:47.660 Why was it you that did the leaving?

00:08:49.580 My ex-partner, you know, he's established in Port Macquarie.

00:08:52.300 He's not going to, he's fought this hard, I mean, we've both fought for the kids.

00:08:56.900 We both wanted the kids full-time.

00:08:58.600 But, you know, I had to make the call.

00:09:01.460 And it's just because I couldn't live in this limbo anymore.

00:09:05.320 Like, I felt like.

00:09:06.740 Yeah, so I would imagine that's probably, I don't know Australia, but I'm guessing that's

00:09:10.560 a small town. 0.70

00:09:11.200 So she's like, I want sex in the city lifestyle. 1.00

00:09:14.300 But now I'm stuck in this small town with no career opportunity because of these kids

00:09:21.740 I chose to have that I'm just not feeling anymore.

00:09:24.920 So she bounced.

00:09:25.740 Yeah.

00:09:27.060 I'm not fulfilling my life.

00:09:29.000 Like it's.

00:09:30.120 Yeah.

00:09:30.800 Tell me a bit about your background, about your family background, your own.

00:09:34.760 My mom was a single parent. 0.97

00:09:36.960 She had myself and my oldest sister.

00:09:39.800 We grew up really poor.

00:09:41.920 We didn't have a lot.

00:09:43.140 Mom did her best to provide for us.

00:09:46.840 So having a career is really important to you.

00:09:49.840 It is.

00:09:50.480 It is.

00:09:51.020 Just if we stop and take a moment to think about Aboriginal people, you know, we're dying 1.00

00:09:57.320 sooner than any other race. 0.99

00:09:59.420 High rates of incarceration.

00:10:01.620 Lots of teenage.

00:10:02.440 And it's crazy because she's going to talk about this is what women will try to save the 1.00

00:10:09.100 world before they try to save their own home, their own marriage or their own children.

00:10:14.600 That's why women do terrible in politics because usually their own home isn't like they can't 1.00

00:10:22.700 even fix their own marriage.

00:10:24.060 How are they going to fix the world's problems?

00:10:25.740 And it's women's responsibility to fix the relationship and fix the marriage. 1.00

00:10:30.000 It's not men's. 0.97

00:10:31.040 Men's job is to be attractive.

00:10:33.340 Some would argue provide, even though women don't even really seem to want men to do that 0.97

00:10:38.540 anymore.

00:10:39.040 They want to work.

00:10:39.800 So their job is to be attractive.

00:10:43.000 Pregnancy, young kids not finishing school. 0.99

00:10:47.380 And, you know, so for me, how I'm going, I've done something with myself.

00:10:53.100 I'm being successful.

00:10:55.220 I've broken down the cycle of welfare dependency.

00:10:58.820 I'm trying to do something with my life, you know, and I think that that's admirable.

00:11:03.280 I'm trying to teach my kids the right way, that you've got to work hard.

00:11:07.100 You've got to get an education.

00:11:08.420 These are the fundamentals.

00:11:09.360 So how did you weigh up that decision to come here without them?

00:11:13.640 Obviously, the kids were my first.

00:11:16.260 What it meant to them was if you ever asked them to choose, they never would ever choose

00:11:22.180 because they love both of us.

00:11:24.040 And we are both good parents.

00:11:25.740 Their dad is a great dad.

00:11:27.640 It has nothing to do with who's a better parent.

00:11:30.180 So what I'm hearing is there's no real reason for you to leave and that you were causing

00:11:35.640 arguments.

00:11:37.060 But look at all the sympathy she's getting.

00:11:39.880 Imagine if this was a dad who did the same thing.

00:11:43.280 He would get no sympathy.

00:11:44.700 None.

00:11:46.240 But, you know, they would all be screaming at him.

00:11:48.360 Do you see these like looks of empathy?

00:11:51.360 I had to think about what was best for them ultimately.

00:11:55.080 And having them around conflict.

00:11:58.640 Is that healthy?

00:11:59.740 No, it's not.

00:12:00.640 I don't want them to see that.

00:12:02.200 I want them to feel safe and secure and stable in one environment.

00:12:07.120 And I knew that they would have that with their dad versus still continue.

00:12:11.480 Now, I actually think that more women could do this. 1.00

00:12:15.820 You know, what's worse, right?

00:12:17.680 A woman who gives up custody and wants nothing to do with you or a woman dragging you to court 1.00

00:12:23.860 every four years.

00:12:26.340 I would love to see this be more common.

00:12:29.400 I would love to see this be like a normal thing.

00:12:33.300 Yeah.

00:12:36.620 Continuing going backwards and forwards from houses.

00:12:39.200 Now, this is very recent.

00:12:41.020 It's only four months.

00:12:42.160 Yeah.

00:12:42.520 Yeah.

00:12:43.040 What sort of things are going through your mind at the moment about that decision you've made?

00:12:46.980 I wake up every day and I think to myself, have I done the right thing?

00:12:55.040 Yeah.

00:12:55.880 And I...

00:12:56.280 I almost...

00:12:57.120 I have never met a kid from a single father home that turned out messed up. 0.75

00:13:00.720 And to be honest, she probably did do the right thing.

00:13:03.120 She's probably too selfish to be a mother. 1.00

00:13:05.000 You might as well give the kids to the dad because they're naturally selfless.

00:13:09.480 So just take that, Al.

00:13:11.040 I mean, I think that no mother is better than a mother that's a bad influence.

00:13:15.100 Because a mother that's a bad influence can turn the kids against the father. 1.00

00:13:19.040 No mother is amazing. 1.00

00:13:20.740 That's awesome.

00:13:22.140 I worry what people think of me as a woman and as a mother.

00:13:27.460 And it's hard because I want my kids with me.

00:13:31.180 I want to be there.

00:13:32.720 I want to be making breakfast with them and helping them with their homework.

00:13:37.180 And I'm a good mom.

00:13:38.200 This is so performative.

00:13:39.880 You can't be a good mom and abandon your kids, lady. 1.00

00:13:42.980 And, yeah, it's just...

00:13:46.920 It's a daily challenge.

00:13:48.580 I have to get up.

00:13:50.500 And what she's really crying about is her reputation, which is essentially ruined because of this choice.

00:13:55.520 So, yeah, it is what it is.

00:13:57.260 You know, I'm in an empty house and there's no little footsteps.

00:14:02.100 And I feel like I'm not complete.

00:14:04.760 But then I have to say to myself, you know, you're strong.

00:14:07.820 You can do this.

00:14:08.480 You've already come so far.

00:14:09.700 You can do this.

00:14:11.560 And then one day these kids, they'll come to me and they'll also see what I'm trying to do.

00:14:18.160 In my work, everything that I do has purpose.

00:14:22.120 I've been trying to create social change with everything that I do.

00:14:26.360 I don't just have a job.

00:14:28.460 It's about, you know, advocating for Indigenous rights.

00:14:32.860 It's about enabling, you know, whether it be corporate.

00:14:35.500 So she has a job doing nothing. 1.00

00:14:38.200 Doing nothing, you know.

00:14:39.920 So she said, I would rather not be a mother.

00:14:44.960 What she's saying is she doesn't really like the guy she reproduced with.

00:14:48.460 She's having second thoughts.

00:14:50.140 And now she's going to go follow whatever. 0.95

00:14:52.500 Government to engage with, you know, successfully with the Indigenous community.

00:14:56.500 Like, you know, I just want to be a positive role model.

00:15:03.040 How have the kids reacted?

00:15:06.380 It's still early days to kind of understand.

00:15:09.860 I think my son, throughout all of this process since 2012, he's never.

00:15:18.000 Greg in the chat said, I took responsibility for getting serious with a party girl.

00:15:21.920 No, no, no.

00:15:22.500 I actually don't think it's a bad thing.

00:15:24.400 Wednesday, I'm going to do a show on the. 0.96

00:15:27.340 I don't want to say you should impregnate a crackhead. 0.73

00:15:30.680 Like, I don't like to say should on this channel. 0.94

00:15:33.040 But I want to talk about the pros of getting a crackhead pregnant. 0.99

00:15:37.660 Because, you know, I met the single father the other day. 0.56

00:15:40.640 You guys, when I meet you guys in person, the fans.

00:15:45.560 Actually, I do think we should have a talk about public things.

00:15:50.920 I don't mind being recognized and saying hi.

00:15:55.420 But if I'm ever somewhere where there's a lot of women. 1.00

00:16:00.800 Do you know what I mean? 0.99

00:16:01.980 I just, I kind of tread carefully because I don't, women are crazy. 1.00

00:16:07.340 I don't know what they're going to do to me, you know. 0.91

00:16:10.900 But you're like, I fear women a little bit, you know. 1.00

00:16:15.940 I'm like, I don't. 0.97

00:16:16.940 But anyway, so the single dad was telling me about a situation impregnating a crackhead. 0.89

00:16:23.200 And I looked at him. 0.59

00:16:24.500 I'm like, your situation sounds great.

00:16:27.920 So the mom left.

00:16:29.480 She doesn't want the kids. 1.00

00:16:30.820 You're not dragged to court.

00:16:32.360 And you get to raise your kid on your terms.

00:16:36.040 Do you know?

00:16:36.620 I looked at him.

00:16:37.260 I'm like, do you know how lucky you are?

00:16:38.940 And I asked him.

00:16:40.080 I'm like, is your kid, is he like mentally, you know, because of the crack?

00:16:43.820 And he's like, no, he came out healthy.

00:16:45.080 I'm like, you got so lucky, my guy.

00:16:51.460 You got so lucky.

00:16:52.760 I told him.

00:16:53.900 So, you know, I don't know if a deadbeat mom is the worst thing in the world. 1.00

00:16:58.340 I think it almost gives the kid more, a better shot at life.

00:17:03.040 Because women, it's like, do you know what? 1.00

00:17:05.860 You'll be just shooting for the stars.

00:17:08.200 Do you know what?

00:17:08.760 This is what happens.

00:17:09.640 Like, you'll be trying to improve something about yourself or in your career or whatever.

00:17:20.880 And the women will just nitpick at everything you do. 1.00

00:17:23.640 They do it to me all the time.

00:17:24.920 I'll be trying to improve, you know, the show or whatever.

00:17:30.300 They'll just nitpick, drag you down.

00:17:32.680 And that's what mothers do, right? 1.00

00:17:34.540 It's like, they're always telling you what you're not doing.

00:17:36.620 They're always freaking out.

00:17:40.880 Yeah.

00:17:41.500 So I would love to see a world where there's more deadbeat mothers. 1.00

00:17:45.340 And I think it's, I think it's actually amazing because if the mothers are deadbeats, 1.00

00:17:51.140 the women can go be exactly who they are, which is whores that want to go live sex in the city lifestyle. 1.00

00:17:56.580 Okay. 1.00

00:17:57.200 But that's great for you young guys out there trying to get laid.

00:18:00.460 So it's really a win-win because they can give birth, they can give the dad the kid, 0.94

00:18:04.800 and they can F off.

00:18:06.020 They don't have to ruin his life.

00:18:08.080 They can go ruin some other guy's life who can just dump him. 0.51

00:18:11.760 Like, they can just dump him.

00:18:14.320 Yeah.

00:18:16.540 Demonstrated or shown any emotion.

00:18:20.580 It's almost like it's just sort of gone over his head.

00:18:23.100 But my daughter, it's been had the highest impact on.

00:18:26.400 She's very emotional and she gets really upset.

00:18:32.860 You know, she misses me.

00:18:34.360 And I have to watch myself.

00:18:35.920 I have to check myself to make sure that I don't allow my emotions to reflect onto the children.

00:18:43.020 Like, I don't upset them because I'm upset.

00:18:45.220 I have to be really mindful of that and it gets really, really hard because I just want to tell them,

00:18:52.060 I'm trying to make this world a better place for you and I want you to be proud of me.

00:18:57.580 Yeah.

00:18:57.880 And mothers care more about looking good to the world than helping their kids' world. 1.00

00:19:04.660 They just have a tendency to care more about looking good to the planet rather than, like, you know,

00:19:11.360 being there for their kids.

00:19:12.560 And I love them so much.

00:19:16.520 Yeah.

00:19:17.580 It's hard.

00:19:18.440 It's hard.

00:19:19.520 I'm sorry for crying.

00:19:21.080 Don't apologize for crying.

00:19:22.900 It is still raw, but...

00:19:24.320 Michael says, my daughter was raised by me after the divorce and my ex-wife, she turned out pretty good.

00:19:29.800 Away from my ex-wife, she turned out pretty good.

00:19:32.020 Graduated high school, didn't get knocked up as a teenager and wasn't a stripper.

00:19:35.920 I've never met a kid raised by a single father that didn't turn out pretty good.

00:19:40.060 I mean, one of the reasons I wanted to come and talk to people is to help me, to help me feel more better in the decision and to know that I'm not alone. 0.99

00:19:52.860 What kind of bullshit is that? 0.82

00:19:55.740 I want to, I want, I came on the news to rationalize abandoning my kids to make me feel better about the decision. 1.00

00:20:02.980 Men don't need that. 1.00

00:20:03.880 If men, men are okay with being the villain, they understand sometimes you're just the villain in some people's stories.

00:20:10.380 And they don't have to justify it.

00:20:12.900 They just take the L.

00:20:13.760 They don't have to prove that they're a good person.

00:20:15.920 They just say, well, maybe I'm a bad person.

00:20:17.780 But to speak out, I think this is a really important issue that we're not hearing about.

00:20:22.420 Why did you want to talk about it tonight?

00:20:24.040 For me, I feel, I thought this would be really good for me because it's early days and I thought it's part of that process in trying to cope.

00:20:35.460 I wanted to hear what other people's stories were and, you know, form a bit of a network so that I'd get some support.

00:20:43.620 But I also think it's such a taboo topic that I've really wanted to put it out there.

00:20:50.320 And I wanted to say to people that have been knocking me, this is where it ends.

00:20:56.040 I'm not going to justify my decision anymore.

00:20:59.480 You know, this is it.

00:21:00.740 I've backed myself 100% and this is what I've chosen to do.

00:21:05.340 And just put it out there.

00:21:06.960 And I'm not going to talk about it anymore.

00:21:08.960 And that's other people's worries.

00:21:10.180 Take that out, ladies. 1.00

00:21:14.600 Take it.

00:21:15.400 Just take it.

00:21:16.940 All right, next, we got another woman. 1.00

00:21:19.520 Doug MPA, you're going to be, you know what's crazy?

00:21:21.720 I have a mouse now.

00:21:23.460 He's driving him nuts that I didn't have a mouse.

00:21:26.220 And I still use the thing.

00:21:30.720 Okay.

00:21:32.220 Here, let's make this.

00:21:33.240 Just a few days ago, Oakland County Sheriff's deputies came to this house behind me, which

00:21:43.740 is on Lydia Lane, to do a welfare check on a woman.

00:21:46.740 But when they got inside, they didn't find her.

00:21:49.300 But they did find her three kids who have been abandoned and living and deplorable.

00:21:53.680 Yeah, Chris in the chat says, thanks, Pearl.

00:21:56.340 I see what my mistake was.

00:21:57.860 I married a good Christian girl instead of a crack addict.

00:22:00.420 Yeah, the Christian girl, when she lies about you, people will believe her. 1.00

00:22:06.160 Do you see what I mean? 0.99

00:22:07.240 The crack addict.

00:22:08.520 Doug MPA, could you put this in our show notes for Wednesday?

00:22:11.900 Because I'm kind of, this is like a working theory.

00:22:14.460 The good Christian woman, if she drags you to court, 1.00

00:22:18.300 she'll believe, they'll believe her, but they're not going to believe some crack addict.

00:22:27.840 Like, crack addict can't do that much damage to your reputation.

00:22:32.300 The crack addict's not going to remember to get an abortion. 1.00

00:22:34.940 She doesn't even remember where she got her crack from.

00:22:37.940 Right?

00:22:38.260 So, I'm riffing on this, but I'm going to continue.

00:22:43.580 Well, conditions.

00:22:44.800 Everybody's upset about it.

00:22:46.240 Like, oh my God, this is right in our neighborhood.

00:22:48.880 How could something like this happen?

00:22:50.540 Pontiac resident Emma Gross lives a few streets over from the home where the kids were found.

00:22:55.000 The Oakland County Sheriff's Office says the house was covered in piles of trash

00:22:59.180 as high as four feet in some rooms.

00:23:01.840 There was even mold and human feces throughout the house.

00:23:04.960 It's pretty heartbreaking that the kids would have to live under those conditions.

00:23:10.540 Sheriff Michael Bouchard tells me a 15-year-old boy and his two sisters,

00:23:14.120 ages 12 and 13, hadn't been outside the home in years

00:23:17.500 and were surviving off of weekly drop-offs of prepared food.

00:23:21.080 It kind of reminds me of the, you know, commercials you see where animals are living

00:23:25.820 in very deplorable conditions.

00:23:28.000 Well, kind of take that times 10.

00:23:30.240 And that's what the kids were living in, four years.

00:23:33.200 The boy told deputies that his mother abandoned them back in either 2020 or 2021.

00:23:38.860 Deputies were recently called because the land...

00:23:41.040 Where is the father in this?

00:23:42.480 She could have just given it to the father.

00:23:44.820 Dustin said, I agree.

00:23:46.020 Crackheads, if you can get a healthy baby are better. 1.00

00:23:48.080 Put that woman away and be a single dad. 1.00

00:23:51.080 I had sex with a crackhead. 1.00

00:23:52.860 She knew exactly where to get the crack. 1.00

00:23:56.540 The landlord of the home asked for them to do a welfare check.

00:24:00.020 The landlord said he hadn't seen her for some time.

00:24:02.240 And I think, as our detectives mentioned,

00:24:04.700 that hadn't paid her rent going back to October.

00:24:06.840 The kid's mother was arrested on Friday,

00:24:09.200 and Bouchard says she had been living somewhere else in Pontiac.

00:24:12.200 The kids hadn't been in school since they were abandoned.

00:24:14.780 Well, that's going to be a very long process to figure this all out.

00:24:18.540 Not just how they are, both mentally and physically,

00:24:21.640 but how did this ever happen to have these kids fall through the cracks on so many levels

00:24:26.880 with relatives, the community, and with schools?

00:24:30.040 Have you ever seen anything like this before?

00:24:33.080 I've seen, you know, child neglect and other situations where they're living in bad places,

00:24:38.180 but not to this level and not for this extended, extended duration.

00:24:43.600 The mother will be facing criminal charges, and in the meantime,

00:24:46.700 her kids are now staying with a relative.

00:24:49.660 Good, good.

00:24:50.880 Not just a...

00:24:52.100 Yeah.

00:24:52.540 Time now for a little bit of electric church music.

00:24:56.760 So this woman left these children in a house by themselves and just said, 0.99

00:25:02.620 feed yourself, good luck.

00:25:05.380 All right, so there's a woman leaves her kids with a grandma for a younger man.

00:25:10.660 Okay, so she met a younger woman, and now she's on live saying that she doesn't want to be a mother. 1.00

00:25:15.980 Hey, babies, wait, don't go on the house yet. 0.99

00:25:19.060 Why not?

00:25:20.160 Hey, listen.

00:25:21.560 Go on to...

00:25:22.480 Just go sit on the porch.

00:25:24.720 Hey, listen.

00:25:26.340 What do you think you're doing?

00:25:27.760 I'm dropping them off.

00:25:28.940 You're good.

00:25:29.820 Listen, I met a younger guy.

00:25:32.100 He don't want no kids, and he don't want to...

00:25:34.700 Listen, he don't want to deal with them.

00:25:36.820 And so I'm dropping these kids off so me and him can live our lives.

00:25:39.560 We want to travel.

00:25:40.720 We want to explore the world.

00:25:41.720 I can't do that with kids.

00:25:42.780 Oh, my God.

00:25:43.200 I can't.

00:25:43.620 I cannot believe...

00:25:45.780 It's time for me to be happy, and I just want to be happy and stress-free without these children.

00:25:53.200 Oh, my gosh.

00:25:55.500 Brian F. says, thanks for the work.

00:25:59.240 That's all I want.

00:26:01.120 And you should...

00:26:01.740 Thank you, Brian.

00:26:02.740 That's very nice of you.

00:26:03.860 I really appreciate the supers.

00:26:06.740 I was demonetized for a long time, so I'm trying to rebuild my life and get this documentary out,

00:26:12.340 so it's very appreciative.

00:26:13.720 Women like this are what red pill... 1.00

00:26:16.520 Not only men, but children.

00:26:19.260 Imagine so many mothers out there do not prioritize their children. 0.99

00:26:23.160 They like the clout of the kids.

00:26:24.540 They want the kids right now. 0.82

00:26:26.040 But in the long term, they're just not fit to be parents.

00:26:30.480 Yeah.

00:26:31.780 And if they could give the kids to the father, I would love to see more of this.

00:26:35.820 Get out of here.

00:26:36.440 Ask me, baby.

00:26:39.200 I shouldn't have asked.

00:26:41.780 It's respect, Angel.

00:26:44.840 It's respect.

00:26:45.640 Well, I hope that you respect my decision on moving on with my life with my new man and

00:26:52.300 no kids.

00:26:53.620 I'm not raising your kids.

00:26:55.020 No, I'm not either.

00:26:56.360 Well, I don't know what to tell you because I'm not doing it.

00:26:58.640 I'm just letting you know right now I'm not doing it.

00:27:00.300 These are your three kids.

00:27:01.480 I'm tired.

00:27:01.740 I'm tired.

00:27:02.620 I'm tired of being a single parent.

00:27:05.680 I'm tired.

00:27:07.620 Yeah.

00:27:08.100 Call the dad.

00:27:08.980 Give him to the dad.

00:27:10.000 But you know what it is?

00:27:11.100 I bet she hates the dad.

00:27:12.600 Women would rather a kid being like foster care than give it to the father. 1.00

00:27:17.880 Let's see.

00:27:18.100 And make the decision to have three kids.

00:27:20.040 That is not my responsibility.

00:27:21.540 And this is the last time you're going to do this.

00:27:23.280 You're not doing it anymore.

00:27:24.520 It's your responsibility, not mine. 0.99

00:27:27.020 Well, it wasn't my plan to be a single parent.

00:27:29.520 Well, it's not my plan to be a grandmother that's going to take care of somebody's three

00:27:33.120 kids.

00:27:33.500 How do you be a single parent of three kids?

00:27:35.980 Like, how do you make that mistake three times?

00:27:40.400 I feel like they're not responsible anymore, that they don't want to be a mother anymore

00:27:43.360 either.

00:27:44.160 Well, look, I just can't.

00:27:45.940 I can't do this no more.

00:27:47.140 I'm tired.

00:27:48.080 I'm overwhelmed.

00:27:49.200 I'm stressed.

00:27:50.020 Thank you, Roulette Wheel.

00:27:51.440 Again, I appreciate it.

00:27:52.880 It really does help the channel.

00:27:54.620 I really think there's like waves we could make if we got

00:27:59.020 two full-time people in-house where I just, the amount of content we could put out.

00:28:05.100 But the thing is, it's going to take a lot of like fundraising basically to get them out

00:28:10.620 here.

00:28:11.980 So, but there's a lot of projects I really believe we could get done.

00:28:15.760 So, it's the person.

00:28:17.700 I can't do it.

00:28:18.720 But you're going to have, do you understand that you're going to have to do this?

00:28:21.920 Well, I don't want to.

00:28:22.820 Okay, but I can't, do you understand that I'm not going to take care of your children?

00:28:27.200 I'm not doing it to raise three kids.

00:28:28.820 Do you know how old I am?

00:28:29.860 You never taught me how to be a mom. 0.60

00:28:31.940 You didn't tell me what to do.

00:28:33.360 You didn't help me.

00:28:34.200 So, now it's your turn.

00:28:35.780 You take your grandkids so I can live my life stress-free.

00:28:40.260 Okay, but the reason that I could not teach you how to be a mother, Angel, is because I

00:28:45.640 was working a full-time job.

00:28:47.740 That's not my problem.

00:28:48.720 I cannot.

00:28:49.900 I'm not.

00:28:51.260 Just hear me out when I say I'm not.

00:28:54.300 Can you imagine being the kid, like watching this?

00:28:58.060 Because kids, they don't always understand it later, but they will understand it when they

00:29:02.400 get older.

00:29:02.880 They're, sorry, at the time, but they get older and things make sense, you know.

00:29:09.100 Of your three kids that you had.

00:29:12.260 All right, next we got one more.

00:29:16.520 Of your three kids that you had, because you're disrespectful, you just come over here and

00:29:21.160 just jump them off.

00:29:22.140 I have to ask you to watch your grandchildren.

00:29:23.820 No, you're not talking about watching.

00:29:25.140 You just told me I was going to have to raise them.

00:29:27.100 I have to ask you to raise your grandchildren.

00:29:28.860 Oh my God.

00:29:29.540 They're your grandchildren.

00:29:30.280 Oh my.

00:29:30.560 It's your responsibility.

00:29:31.100 I can't even believe I'm hearing this from you right now.

00:29:33.780 I cannot believe that you actually think that I'm supposed to say it's okay, that I'm just

00:29:37.980 going to just give up my life, my freedom, to raise three kids and not even mine.

00:29:42.680 I raised you all.

00:29:43.600 And that's not what I'm going to do.

00:29:44.800 I'm not doing it.

00:29:46.040 I'm not doing it.

00:29:47.060 So you can forget that.

00:29:48.060 I'm not doing it.

00:29:50.480 And I'm not raising mine.

00:29:53.100 So it's your responsibility now.

00:29:55.340 So if you don't mind, I can just drive off.

00:29:57.740 You raise your grandchildren.

00:29:58.800 You can do it better than I can.

00:30:00.080 I can't do it.

00:30:00.940 I want you to hear me when I say this.

00:30:04.660 I hear you, Greta.

00:30:05.420 I am not raising your three kids.

00:30:08.920 I am not keeping them today.

00:30:11.140 I'm not keeping them tomorrow.

00:30:13.360 Matter of fact, this is all your responsibility from this point on.

00:30:16.700 You should have thought about that after you had the first one and then the second one.

00:30:20.560 And then now you got three.

00:30:25.180 Yeah, my grandma's pissed. 1.00

00:30:27.080 Let's see the last one.

00:30:29.120 Three?

00:30:29.620 Hey, girl, bye.

00:30:30.540 You did, right?

00:30:31.580 Yeah, well, and I raised all three of y'all.

00:30:33.640 You did not.

00:30:34.240 Yes, I did.

00:30:35.260 You did.

00:30:35.880 You had everything that you wanted.

00:30:38.300 I was right there to teach and instill you.

00:30:40.380 I don't even know where this attitude is coming from.

00:30:42.500 I didn't raise you like this, Angel.

00:30:44.100 Okay, well, listen.

00:30:45.980 Being a single parent will make you angry, mad, upset, and stressed,

00:30:50.100 and everything both, and I am tired.

00:30:52.140 But you cannot come over here and drop those children off

00:30:56.980 and think that I'm supposed to say,

00:30:59.340 yes, I'm going to do it because I'm not.

00:31:02.640 Now, look.

00:31:04.560 Hey, hey.

00:31:06.680 There's no point of you telling them to get back in the car

00:31:08.660 because they're not coming to me.

00:31:09.640 I'm not.

00:31:10.320 They're not coming.

00:31:11.200 Come on.

00:31:11.580 Come on here.

00:31:13.460 Yo, come on and get in this car. 1.00

00:31:15.420 They're not coming.

00:31:16.280 I'm not.

00:31:17.320 What?

00:31:17.720 Hey, what is the point of them getting back in the car?

00:31:20.120 I'm not.

00:31:20.940 I'm not.

00:31:21.200 I'm not.

00:31:21.220 I'm not.

00:31:21.260 I'm not.

00:31:21.380 I'm not.

00:31:21.400 I'm not.

00:31:21.760 So, yeah, get in the car here.

00:31:24.600 Come on here.

00:31:26.180 Get in the car.

00:31:27.560 Oh, my gosh.

00:31:29.220 Grandma loves you.

00:31:30.820 All right, and I'll see you later.

00:31:33.320 Angel, yeah, talking.

00:31:36.700 We're done.

00:31:37.560 You can go now.

00:31:38.320 That one is like, oh, my gosh.

00:31:40.320 He's old, too.

00:31:41.340 That poor kid.

00:31:42.320 Can go now.

00:31:43.900 Go on and pull off.

00:31:44.720 Don't open your legs to lovers who abandon their kids.

00:31:48.040 No, I actually would encourage it because then you guys can get the kids and raise them

00:31:52.040 better than it.

00:31:52.540 Like, imagine if the dad was around and she could just give the kids to the dad. 0.97

00:31:56.440 That would be amazing.

00:31:57.680 I don't know what you're sitting here for.

00:31:59.060 Don't get out.

00:32:01.880 Don't get out.

00:32:03.120 What?

00:32:04.340 What in the world?

00:32:06.360 Get out.

00:32:07.480 Hey, hey, hey.

00:32:09.640 Oh, my God.

00:32:10.860 No sheep.

00:32:11.340 Oh, he's so cute.

00:32:16.740 Hey, hey.

00:32:17.540 Hey, hey, hey, Angel.

00:32:18.660 Hey, Angel.

00:32:19.820 What?

00:32:20.440 What is?

00:32:21.900 No, this chick did. 1.00

00:32:24.900 Oh, my God.

00:32:27.600 She actually left.

00:32:31.880 I am really.

00:32:33.460 This chick just left. 1.00

00:32:39.300 Now, these children are going in the house.

00:32:41.940 Oh, my God.

00:32:45.360 So brutal.

00:32:46.800 So crazy.

00:32:48.380 All right.

00:32:49.040 Now, there's another article about a woman that left her kids.

00:32:52.780 Okay.

00:32:53.980 All right.

00:32:54.560 So, we got an article from Business Insider.

00:32:57.260 The overwhelmed heroine of the lost daughter walked out on her kids. 1.00

00:33:03.620 These are real-life mothers did, too.

00:33:07.940 Okay.

00:33:09.140 The new Netflix film, The Lost Daughter, takes a raw, honest look at the complexities of motherhood.

00:33:15.040 Overwhelmed by her kids' demands and unable to focus on her career, protagonist Letta makes three difficult choices to walk out on her children and husband for three years. 0.96

00:33:25.460 Judged and punished by herself and others, an older version of Letta plays a steep price for abandoning her kids. 1.00

00:33:32.680 As the film makes clear, it's a taboo double standard in the world where fathers who walk away are considered normal, but mothers who do it are simply vilified.

00:33:41.380 That is not true at all.

00:33:43.600 To better understand what drives women, making... 1.00

00:33:46.660 Why...

00:33:47.120 Who cares why these women make these choices? 1.00

00:33:50.860 I do not care.

00:33:52.560 I don't. 1.00

00:33:54.280 You're a terrible person. 0.99

00:33:55.380 Yeah, truly. 0.98

00:33:59.120 Insider talked to three real-life mothers who left their families.

00:34:02.580 Some departed for weeks and for others' years.

00:34:04.720 Their experiences, spousal abuse...

00:34:07.400 Yeah, so you're getting abused by your spouse.

00:34:09.340 You're going to let them be abused. 0.98

00:34:12.780 Let the kids be abused. 0.91

00:34:14.220 What a great mother. 1.00

00:34:15.580 Floundering careers and years of grinding childcare without a break.

00:34:19.080 Highlight the immense pressures on women who become parents.

00:34:21.620 Moms are being tasked with some such monumental and unrealistic expectations, says Hillary Bergerger, a licensed professional counselor who founded Work Like a Mother.

00:34:33.300 Men are not expected to shoulder all of the psychological, educational, domestic, and enrichment management of the children in the same way that mothers are. 0.94

00:34:42.040 And so women get burnt out. 1.00

00:34:45.220 Daniel Lejeune's children were four, six, and ten when she left to attend a six-week poetry residency in Prague, followed by a two-week visit to Savannah, Georgia.

00:34:55.520 Other than two brief trips in the prior year, it was the first time I had been away from the children except to have more children, says Lejeune, who also homeschooled her kids at the time.

00:35:06.400 For ten years, I hadn't been away from them for more than an hour, except when I was having C-sections to have the others.

00:35:13.480 Her spouse did not support her decision to leave, in fact, he told their children she was never coming home.

00:35:21.360 I called them every day, but they would beg and beg for me to come home, she said.

00:35:25.880 As excruciating as it was to be away from her kids, it healed me in ways that I can't explain, she told Insider.

00:35:32.100 The time away gave her clarity she needed to walk away from an unsupportive marriage and taught her a few things about motherhood. 0.61

00:35:39.340 I learned that my children did not need me as much as I believed they did, said Lejeune, who now has full custody of her children.

00:35:47.720 How did she now get full custody? 0.98

00:35:49.980 She regularly schedules babysitters guilt-free when she needs a few days away.

00:35:55.180 If I hadn't gone on this residency, I would have ended up in a mental institution.

00:35:59.260 It was truly the best thing I could have done, even if it was traumatic for my children.

00:36:03.420 During the last few years of her marriage, Liz Marie Monaco was just going through the motions. 0.99

00:36:17.140 Her soon-to-be ex-husband wouldn't move out, and the situation had become toxic on so many levels.

00:36:23.160 Of course it was toxic.

00:36:24.380 I coped the best I could, thinking this was the best way to live life, she said.

00:36:28.660 The last straw was that I didn't want my kids to watch this anymore.

00:36:33.340 It was teaching them all the wrong things about love and marriage.

00:36:36.100 So she decided to leave her three teenagers with their dad, moving half a mile away and making daily visits to cook, clean, and do laundry. 0.97

00:36:44.620 Eventually, her visits tapered down to weekends.

00:36:47.020 After three years when her children were in their late teens, she moved out of state to be with her new fiancé.

00:36:51.800 I lost friends and family along the way, Monaco said.

00:36:55.720 Even though I did not just up, leave, and abandon them in the eyes of society and my family, I did.

00:37:02.800 From time to time, still to this day, I still feel pain in my heart for the hurt I caused to my kids.

00:37:12.080 She said her three youngest kids had become more understanding of her choice as they grew older, but her oldest still wasn't talking to her.

00:37:19.700 The stigma of a mom leaving is greater than if the dad leaves.

00:37:24.260 A dad leaving is the norm, but when a mom does in the eyes of society, you're killing a living thing. 0.92

00:37:30.140 One mother told Insider that her departure was prompted by a family crisis.

00:37:34.200 After accepting a job in Vienna, her husband had left her in the U.S. to take care of their three- and eight-year-old daughters,

00:37:40.240 the older of whom needed to stay in the country for surgery.

00:37:43.040 By the time her daughter recovered, he had unexpectedly moved to Sarajevo, the capital of Bosnia, Herzegovia.

00:37:52.860 Hoping to keep her family intact, the mother made the move with her daughters,

00:37:56.820 only to face an isolating lifestyle in an unfamiliar city.

00:38:01.080 When a sudden medical emergency forced her to return to the U.S. for care,

00:38:05.760 she had enough room on her credit card for only one flight.

00:38:09.320 Oh my gosh.

00:38:10.660 She left the girls behind with their fathers.

00:38:13.900 I couldn't take them with me and I was utterly burned out by them,

00:38:17.580 said the woman to whom Insider granted anonymity because her now ex-husband was physically abusive.

00:38:26.500 Of course.

00:38:27.200 Yeah, so let me get this straight.

00:38:28.540 Your ex-husband was abusive,

00:38:29.900 but now you're leaving your children with him.

00:38:35.760 Okay.

00:38:38.820 I believed at the time a mother needed to be, and I had no one to admit this to,

00:38:42.820 not to mention the shame of failing at being a mom.

00:38:45.620 Meanwhile, her husband told their daughters that their mother had left them to chase the American dream,

00:38:51.680 but despite the circumstances, she didn't speak up for herself,

00:38:54.540 nor did she disclose her return to California to anyone other than the few people I asked for help.

00:38:59.460 There was a guilty relief in being sick and weak without having to be anything for my children,

00:39:05.600 but also a terrifying feeling of being untethered, she said.

00:39:09.300 Was I being selfish for trying to take care of me?

00:39:11.920 Should I have stayed with them?

00:39:13.340 Was being invisible really that bad?

00:39:15.680 After six months, her husband returned her children to her,

00:39:18.260 telling her that their children need their mother. 0.87

00:39:20.520 Her abusive marriage was now in the rear view,

00:39:22.540 but trying to keep up with the demands of running a household while as a single parent with a career is exhausting.

00:39:29.280 I was resentful of how little my ex had done and how he was able to disappear for months on end to build his by then successful career, he said.

00:39:37.700 She said,

00:40:07.700 There was absolutely guilt, but I think a lot of that was due to what I thought a mother needed to be and not what I was living up to.

00:40:21.840 Yeah, so.

00:40:24.620 So again, this is rationalization.

00:40:26.680 So what women do is they rationalize bad decisions as good things. 1.00

00:40:31.000 So for example, the body positivity movement, bad thing, right? 0.61

00:40:34.500 Being fat, bad.

00:40:35.400 But we got to rationalize our bad decision to be a good decision.

00:40:41.040 All right.

00:40:41.840 So next we got someone normalizing abandoning the kids with the fathers.

00:40:48.600 Ladies, let's normalize leaving the kids with their fathers. 1.00

00:40:52.400 It does not make you a bad mother.

00:40:54.740 I promise.

00:40:56.500 Now I.

00:40:56.980 Yeah, again.

00:40:57.620 So this is like step two of women's rationalization system is I'm not doing the wrong thing. 0.54

00:41:06.740 So now I need to get other women to also pretend they're not doing the wrong thing. 1.00

00:41:11.300 So we can just gaslight everybody.

00:41:12.820 I just saw a tick tock of a 29 year old with five kids recently divorced.

00:41:20.460 She's stuck at home while her ex-husband is parading his new wife on tick tock.

00:41:26.280 Now, that just breaks my heart.

00:41:29.580 And I think I know where it starts.

00:41:31.840 You're in a marriage.

00:41:32.940 You're in a relationship.

00:41:33.940 You have a baby.

00:41:35.320 As soon as you get the baby from the hospital, he really can't change nappies.

00:41:42.620 The baby's too small.

00:41:44.520 He doesn't like feeding the baby.

00:41:46.180 The baby's too fragile.

00:41:48.200 And that just continues on and on to the extent that the man does nothing for the child except take Christmas pictures.

00:41:56.760 And that's just about it.

00:41:58.640 No, not on my watch.

00:42:00.720 What you will do is we made the baby together.

00:42:03.900 It takes two to make a baby.

00:42:06.540 So what you're going to do is you're going to feed the baby.

00:42:09.240 You're going to do the nappy changes.

00:42:10.920 I should be confident enough to go away for a weekend and know that you're able to take care of your kids.

00:42:17.840 It doesn't matter if you're the dad, the mom, whatever.

00:42:20.640 You should be able to take care of your own kids.

00:42:22.860 Because what's happening is you have these men who barely take care of their kids. 0.86

00:42:28.720 Then you get divorced, separated.

00:42:30.720 You want to share custody.

00:42:32.500 But how do you share custody with someone who was not even interested in taking care of the kids while you were in the marriage?

00:42:39.060 And it should be a rule.

00:42:40.600 Yeah, they get so bitter when you date a younger, hotter woman. 0.99

00:42:44.060 They do.

00:42:44.680 There's nothing you could, yeah.

00:42:46.800 But second, a third, a fourth, if he does not know how to independently take care of the child that you currently have.

00:42:54.800 And men do it better than women. 1.00

00:42:56.440 So this idea that men can't, you know, take care of children, it's just false.

00:43:00.960 I am noticing that men are better at more.

00:43:03.900 Men are the nurturing gender.

00:43:05.680 Men are the selfless gender.

00:43:07.420 Men are the giving gender. 0.99

00:43:09.080 Because men act in much more selfless ways.

00:43:14.540 And why is it that when a woman raises a child, it's a criminal. 1.00

00:43:18.600 But when a man raises a child, it's basically the same as two parents. 0.73

00:43:22.820 More and more women are actually starting to give their children over to their fathers and put themselves on child support and are going on about their life. 0.96

00:43:32.440 Now, before I get into what I'm going to say, I just want to say I am not judging any woman that has decided to do so for whatever reason you made that choice.

00:43:41.040 And that's what you.

00:43:41.780 I am.

00:43:44.100 But I just judge you as a bad mother, right?

00:43:46.600 I mean, we can't all be good at things.

00:43:49.120 There's something guys look and I've talked about this.

00:43:51.520 I'm just kind of a forgetful person.

00:43:54.940 Like I, I leave, like right now, I got like two bottles here.

00:43:59.140 I'm like a water bottle, like empty water bottle, leaving connoisseur.

00:44:04.120 You know, I'm just being honest.

00:44:05.580 I wish I wasn't like that.

00:44:07.940 But if you ever asked me, are you good at picking up your water bottle?

00:44:12.760 I would just say no.

00:44:13.640 You know, I have talents.

00:44:15.200 That's just not one of them.

00:44:16.860 And some women being a mother, it's just not one of their talents. 1.00

00:44:19.820 It's not what they're raised to do.

00:44:20.980 It's not what they're meant to do.

00:44:22.960 To feel it was best.

00:44:24.320 But also, I ain't even mad at y'all.

00:44:26.920 I just want to go ahead and say that.

00:44:28.420 As a single mom, I'm not even mad at y'all.

00:44:30.680 Now, do I feel like I could be one of those women to stand in that line and do so? 0.59

00:44:37.140 No.

00:44:38.040 However, I'm not even mad at y'all.

00:44:42.360 Because it's one thing to, now I get it, one night stands and situationships, things happen.

00:44:48.780 Okay.

00:44:49.500 But when you're in a relationship with a person and men can just abandon ship, just jump ship

00:44:55.360 mid-pregnancy, or this man changes mid-pregnancy and now this person isn't who you want to be

00:45:02.120 with anymore.

00:45:02.820 And before y'all get started in my comments, imagine those women who are married and they 1.00

00:45:08.640 have three and four and five kids and the man just abandon ship.

00:45:14.060 So before y'all, you need to be married.

00:45:16.520 No, it's a lot of women who are married and they're tired too. 1.00

00:45:20.020 It's so many things that can happen that do happen during pregnancy.

00:45:24.520 And, um, I ain't even mad at them.

00:45:28.320 Mm-mm.

00:45:28.880 I'm not.

00:45:30.160 I'm not.

00:45:30.960 And then some women get tired of doing it alone. 1.00

00:45:35.180 It's hard.

00:45:36.000 Some women get tired of doing it alone. 1.00

00:45:37.900 Some women get tired of begging for help. 1.00

00:45:40.080 Some women have no village. 0.97

00:45:41.580 Now, granted, I do have people that I do trust that do help me when I'm really in need and

00:45:50.540 when I really have something to do.

00:45:52.460 It's no need for me to go through the line of those people.

00:45:54.900 Y'all know who y'all are and I love y'all dearly.

00:45:58.520 Some women just simply can't handle it. 1.00

00:46:00.740 So I'm not even mad at y'all.

00:46:02.620 I'm not.

00:46:03.760 I'm not.

00:46:04.240 A lot of women are just sliding those children onto their fathers and putting themselves on 1.00

00:46:08.960 child support.

00:46:09.760 And, um, yeah, that's what we have now.

00:46:14.600 Yeah.

00:46:18.200 Yeah.

00:46:18.980 So what a lady. 1.00

00:46:21.140 Amazing.

00:46:23.420 So now we're going to do a call in.

00:46:25.380 So please put the link in the chat.

00:46:27.500 Um, and I want to know if you guys know any women that abandoned their children, maybe your

00:46:31.980 mother abandoned you.

00:46:33.300 Um, and why do you think that mothers are able to get away with abandoning their kids 1.00

00:46:39.040 when men aren't?

00:46:40.600 So, um, a couple rules for calling in first guys.

00:46:45.280 Oh, here, here's the thing.

00:46:46.880 I need you to come on and give me like a, a one minute, two minute story.

00:46:51.480 Then if me and Doug MPA think there's something like entertaining or interesting, we'll keep,

00:46:56.580 we'll keep pressing, but please don't come on and ship.

00:47:01.280 Like if you've invented something or you have something you want to plug, I do appreciate

00:47:06.020 it, but I do want to stick to the topic of the show.

00:47:08.520 Again, I appreciate every watcher.

00:47:10.760 So, um, but we got to have some ground rules.

00:47:15.040 Um, yeah.

00:47:16.960 And so I prefer the best callers are ones that give their personal experience.

00:47:21.020 I knew this person that did this, or this happened in my life.

00:47:25.420 Um, and then, yeah, if it's interesting, we'll ask more questions.

00:47:28.600 Otherwise, it also depends on how many callers.

00:47:31.160 If we get a lot of callers, sometimes we got to rush them.

00:47:33.320 It's nothing personal against you guys.

00:47:34.980 Um, but yeah, Doug MPA, are you on the line?

00:47:40.920 Hey, how's it going?

00:47:42.220 Good.

00:47:42.560 How are you?

00:47:43.720 I'm good.

00:47:44.600 I love this topic, man.

00:47:46.100 So I love it because.

00:47:47.520 Oh, go ahead.

00:47:48.960 No, because the double standards is, uh, disgusting.

00:47:54.560 Um, there are women advocating towards leaving their children.

00:47:58.500 And guys, I always say, um, if a woman has a child against your will, all she should, 0.94

00:48:06.880 all she should get is a check and keep your veins cold. 1.00

00:48:10.880 Cause there's no such thing as you have to do the right thing or letting a woman shame 1.00

00:48:15.060 you into being a father.

00:48:16.240 Don't do it guys.

00:48:17.280 Why?

00:48:18.800 And just be ready.

00:48:19.820 Especially if she's a demon, if she's one of those demons where you have to jump through 0.99

00:48:23.420 hoops and she wants to control your life through your kid, you just leave that kid 1.00

00:48:26.940 behind.

00:48:27.340 You don't owe that child or her anything and just be ready for when that kid is 14

00:48:32.400 or 15 years old.

00:48:34.440 When they come knocking on your door to try to ask you what happened, you say, look, I

00:48:38.540 never wanted this.

00:48:39.560 I never wanted you.

00:48:40.660 And I didn't want to be around that woman, but you don't owe these women anything, but

00:48:45.180 you're still shamed for it.

00:48:46.380 But women are celebrated for leaving their kids behind, live your life. 1.00

00:48:51.200 You know, you owe it to yourself.

00:48:54.040 It's insane.

00:48:54.920 And remember, these women choose to have these kids. 1.00

00:48:58.160 They choose it.

00:48:59.060 Do you know any deadbeat mothers personally?

00:49:04.060 Do I know any deadbeat mothers? 0.99

00:49:06.120 Uh, I don't, I don't know any women that, uh, that abandoned their children. 1.00

00:49:11.960 I guess I don't run in those circles, but yeah, I don't, um, uh, no, I don't.

00:49:18.320 I was telling you earlier, I knew one, well, I didn't know her, but I knew the son of one.

00:49:22.960 And yeah, it was basically, she abandoned, um, the family for years and like left the kids

00:49:31.420 with like a disabled dad.

00:49:34.260 So he was like, the dad was like in a wheelchair.

00:49:36.820 He was disabled and she just left.

00:49:38.700 We know, I do know one.

00:49:40.780 So this guy I used to know in high school.

00:49:43.380 And then, uh, when I was going to community college and him and I were good friends.

00:49:48.160 And then he left all of his friends behind to, to be with this woman that we all couldn't

00:49:53.860 stand.

00:49:54.240 And they had three kids.

00:49:55.760 And, um, it was one of those situations where he was a professional and she was a stay at

00:50:02.100 home mom, but she was into that multi-level marketing stuff. 1.00

00:50:05.680 Oh no, she left it to do multi-level marketing. 1.00

00:50:09.940 No, no, not yet though.

00:50:11.080 So their whole marriage, he'd have to say, oh yeah, helping my wife with, with her business.

00:50:16.780 And she's such a business owner doing all this multi-level marketing stuff. 1.00

00:50:20.140 Well, she reconnect cause she was from Colorado.

00:50:24.580 She reckoned she reconnected with a high school friend and she left him to move to Colorado and

00:50:33.040 left him with his three sons.

00:50:35.680 Um, yeah, that's the only one I know.

00:50:39.940 Was he happy though?

00:50:41.500 Like, was it kind of, was he kind of like, I don't want to, I don't want to say it, but

00:50:46.140 if she's crazy enough to do that, she was probably tormenting him, you know?

00:50:49.940 So was he like kind of relieved in a way or no?

00:50:52.680 Was he like, well, I don't really know.

00:50:55.920 Because he, he married a single mother, like right after, right after he married a single 0.65

00:51:03.040 mother, right after she left.

00:51:04.260 I think he was single for like a year, a year and a half.

00:51:06.480 And then he got married again to some single mom.

00:51:08.980 Oh.

00:51:09.380 Um, so I, I don't even, you know, I mean, he's making it, but I don't know.

00:51:15.480 I think she has two kids and he has three.

00:51:17.360 So they have the Brady bunch going on.

00:51:20.640 Well, do you think that men, I, not that they like men can do what they want, but would

00:51:26.720 you recommend a guy, could he, would you be, would you still say a guy not mess with a

00:51:33.700 single mother if he has kids?

00:51:36.800 I think that people with children should date each other and leave the people that don't 0.98

00:51:42.100 have children alone.

00:51:44.000 Yeah.

00:51:44.640 So yeah, I would say if you're a guy with kids, date a woman with kids that you both

00:51:49.080 have skin in the game, but leave the childless people alone.

00:51:52.820 Cause I don't date guys, don't do single mothers. 1.00

00:51:56.840 So don't sleep with them.

00:51:57.660 Don't date them.

00:51:58.360 Don't marry them ever. 0.57

00:51:59.560 Leave them alone.

00:52:00.440 There are too many women out there. 1.00

00:52:01.800 We're on track to what?

00:52:03.560 50% of women being single and childless.

00:52:06.120 Why deal with a single mom? 1.00

00:52:07.440 If you don't have any kids.

00:52:08.700 Why?

00:52:09.220 Totally.

00:52:10.400 Is there anyone on the line or no?

00:52:12.420 Yep.

00:52:13.380 This person is, it says zoom user.

00:52:18.320 It says zoom user.

00:52:20.040 Are you there?

00:52:22.820 Uh, it just says zoom user going once zoom user going twice.

00:52:30.360 I'm going to put you in the waiting room and come back to you.

00:52:34.800 Yeah.

00:52:36.520 Carlos guys, make sure to like the video subscribe.

00:52:39.460 If you haven't already, we're on our way to 3 million.

00:52:42.300 Thanks for everyone for getting us to 2 million.

00:52:44.800 Really appreciate it.

00:52:45.720 Thank you for everyone in the audacity chat and thank you to all the regulars on YouTube.

00:52:50.160 Thank you for being here, everyone.

00:52:52.240 Carlos, are you there?

00:52:53.860 I'm here.

00:52:54.480 How about you?

00:52:56.200 Hi, Carlos.

00:52:57.140 How are you?

00:52:58.420 I'm doing fine.

00:52:59.780 You've called in before, haven't you?

00:53:02.340 Yeah.

00:53:02.680 I'm the guy with single father, four kids.

00:53:05.320 Oh, oh yeah.

00:53:07.200 Okay.

00:53:07.560 So tell me, um, you're, you were in this exact situation, weren't you?

00:53:13.000 Oh yeah.

00:53:13.980 Yeah.

00:53:14.300 Uh, it's, uh, and I told you the last, I called a couple of weeks ago and I told you like being

00:53:20.100 a single father, isn't that hard.

00:53:22.460 Um, but yeah, that abandonment thing, you know, when I was in court, I use that word and the

00:53:29.760 judge, I got mad at me cause I use the word abandonment and he's like, well, we're not

00:53:36.500 going to use that word.

00:53:37.320 I was like, but that's exactly what happened.

00:53:39.240 And she left, she wouldn't come home so I can go to work so I can revive from my kids

00:53:43.400 and I lost my job and everything like that.

00:53:46.100 And she threatened me with contempt of court and threatened me to put me in jail. 0.96

00:53:49.320 Cause I kept on talking about abandonment and a woman or a man.

00:53:55.060 Oh, it was a woman judge. 1.00

00:53:56.400 Of course.

00:53:58.820 So it's, uh, but that's exactly what it was.

00:54:01.920 I mean, I didn't work for a year.

00:54:04.360 I didn't, uh, I had to find childcare for all my kids.

00:54:09.300 It took me a whole year to find childcare.

00:54:12.020 And then the job where I got fired from where they, they let me go, but they, they knew the

00:54:17.000 situation, what was going on.

00:54:18.300 So once I found childcare, they told me if you can find that you can come back.

00:54:22.540 So I got everything back that I had before right now.

00:54:27.040 I just don't have a wife anymore.

00:54:31.460 So did you go ahead.

00:54:34.580 What would you say to these women? 1.00

00:54:36.600 Cause they're like, um, uh, how, what's that say where these women question how single fathers 1.00

00:54:47.180 would be able to take care of their children while they're working or something like that? 0.67

00:54:50.740 They're like, I don't know how men would be able to do it.

00:54:55.760 Exactly.

00:54:56.560 So what would you say to a woman that would try to say that single fathers work and they're 0.93

00:55:02.140 just incapable of being single fathers?

00:55:04.120 What would you say to them?

00:55:05.040 Uh, they underestimate us like even in court, like the judge had the same, cause I mean,

00:55:11.640 I wanted to change my judge and family court, but I was like, no, like I just, I want her 0.95

00:55:17.500 to see the full scale of my ex-wife.

00:55:19.460 And you know, my ex-wife got arrested for methamphetamine.

00:55:23.780 She got arrested for three DUIs and all this stuff.

00:55:27.440 So now that I still have the same judge, she sees the full picture now.

00:55:31.240 She knows that I'm not like, I'm the capable parent.

00:55:35.880 Do you have any?

00:55:37.160 And, and, and she, uh, you know, she tries to praise me that you're the kids rock and all

00:55:43.320 this other stuff.

00:55:43.940 And I told, I told the judge, I was like, look, I don't need praise.

00:55:47.160 I don't need any validation.

00:55:49.200 It's just my job.

00:55:50.720 This is what I'm supposed to do.

00:55:53.200 I don't need validation for doing what I'm supposed to be doing.

00:55:58.120 Do you have any guy friends that, um, had to like fight for custody of their kids?

00:56:04.560 I know some people it's just that, um, they didn't fight hard enough.

00:56:11.700 Like, I mean, with my whole case, I didn't hire a lawyer.

00:56:14.580 I did it all myself.

00:56:15.700 I looked up the laws, um, and most, and in all states for any single fathers out there,

00:56:21.980 if you're about to go through a divorce or anything like that, in all states, there's

00:56:25.720 a, the best interest of the child.

00:56:28.620 You need to look at that.

00:56:30.220 That's what the judge is going to focus on.

00:56:33.460 And try to avoid talking bad about it by the other parent, but he had to try to show

00:56:38.380 the unfitness of the other parent.

00:56:40.100 If he's going out and partying and drinking and stuff like that, and someone's babysitting

00:56:44.720 them and whatnot, that's going to look bad.

00:56:48.120 You know, it isn't going to like that.

00:56:49.200 I was just wondering if you prefer this than like going through the court process of like

00:56:55.800 fighting for your, cause Wednesday I'm doing a show on like the pros.

00:56:59.040 It's like, it's almost better to get pregnant a woman. 1.00

00:57:02.460 That's so crazy that you get custody rather than like going to court for 18 years.

00:57:07.140 I was just wondering if you'd agree with that or not.

00:57:10.520 I don't know.

00:57:11.320 I don't know.

00:57:11.960 I mean, I wouldn't be with that kind of woman in the first place. 1.00

00:57:16.160 My ex-wife had, I mean, I mean, when I met my ex-wife, I was six years older than her.

00:57:22.240 So, I mean, she went through some traumatizing stuff and at that time and not knowing about

00:57:26.780 mental health and how it really affects people if they don't address it, especially women.

00:57:31.540 Um, you know, I had to, I felt bad for her and it was like, you want to come for her.

00:57:36.940 So she wasn't always like that.

00:57:38.520 She kind of went off the deep end.

00:57:41.120 Yeah.

00:57:41.620 I mean, and I seen in our marriage, like, I mean, there was things in our marriage, like

00:57:44.560 she constantly accused me of looking at other women and wanting to sleep with other women. 1.00

00:57:49.280 And I just didn't want to, like, I had a very beautiful ex-wife.

00:57:53.080 Um, and it just, she, it never stopped.

00:57:58.660 And it kind of like drove me crazy.

00:58:00.080 And I didn't understand why she was doing it.

00:58:02.560 And I did therapy for about six months and, you know, was brutally honest with therapists.

00:58:08.360 And she was like, well, it seems like that she had childhood trauma.

00:58:11.960 And I was like, yeah, she did.

00:58:13.280 I mean, she went through some stuff that no child should go through.

00:58:16.240 And now that I know that I could teach my sons to look for that in a woman and teach my daughters,

00:58:23.820 like, use their mom as an example for my daughters. 1.00

00:58:30.080 Um, why do you think there's a stigma?

00:58:35.280 Um, or why don't you think society comes down with the same visceral on single mothers that 1.00

00:58:42.060 abandon their families than, um, single that they do to single fathers?

00:58:45.920 I don't, uh, I could, I honestly don't know.

00:58:51.360 I just, I think, I just, I know like fathers, and this is the crazy thing about single mothers 1.00

00:58:58.680 abandoning their children and just look at it like this and it's going to sound crazy,

00:59:02.080 but ant, like animals and the animal kingdom, mama bears, lions, like they don't, they take care of the children.

00:59:12.560 They don't have a conscience.

00:59:14.080 Animals go off instinct.

00:59:15.300 They don't have a conscience, but human beings, human women have consciences. 1.00

00:59:18.780 So when they do something like that, there's something severely wrong.

00:59:21.640 Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?

00:59:27.540 No, he's a, he's a hundred percent true.

00:59:29.980 Um, and here's the thing, this whole feminism thing, the social media is going to show us that 1.00

00:59:40.700 this myth that women are nurturers, that women are just morally superior because the women is 0.98

00:59:46.740 a lie because we're going to have more women abusing positions of power, abusing the elderly, 1.00

00:59:52.300 abusing children, just doing horrible things. 0.92

00:59:56.480 It's going to take a little bit, but women, they're going to show the true colors as they 1.00

01:00:03.480 get more and more and more.

01:00:04.940 And you know, all you can do is minimize the damage.

01:00:08.260 Yeah, it's, it's truly great.

01:00:10.660 Like feminism. 1.00

01:00:11.580 I mean, you have school teachers, women, sexually abusing kids. 1.00

01:00:16.360 You see it all the time, right? 0.94

01:00:17.960 Yeah.

01:00:18.220 It's like a phenomenon.

01:00:19.800 There was a weekend last year where six teachers in one weekend all got arrested for sleeping

01:00:25.120 with them, young male students.

01:00:26.580 And also there is enough of these happening where Pearl, did you know that if a teacher

01:00:33.220 sleeps with a minor young boy and gets pregnant and has his kid, his parents will have to pay 0.99

01:00:44.120 her child support.

01:00:46.360 It's crazy, man.

01:00:49.240 That's insane.

01:00:49.740 It's crazy.

01:00:50.440 Sweet aunt T says, because women get all the privileges without their responsibilities and 1.00

01:00:55.120 men get all the responsibilities without the privilege. 0.93

01:00:58.080 Thank you, sweet aunt T. You might be one of my only female viewers. 0.97

01:01:02.960 I appreciate you being here.

01:01:04.240 Yeah.

01:01:05.060 I'm trying to have her call in because she said that she, she left her single mother

01:01:08.880 behind.

01:01:10.200 Call in.

01:01:11.500 All right, Carlos, we're going to move on to the next caller.

01:01:13.500 Okay.

01:01:13.980 Thanks for calling.

01:01:14.640 Take it easy.

01:01:15.680 Call in any time, buddy.

01:01:17.080 I will.

01:01:17.540 Thank you.

01:01:17.900 Every time he calls in, it's a good call every single time.

01:01:25.280 Yeah.

01:01:25.480 That was a great caller.

01:01:26.720 And I want to, I want to tell you guys why he stopped.

01:01:29.180 He, he tells the story.

01:01:30.360 He checks in to make sure he doesn't drone on and it's not to be rude to you guys that

01:01:35.100 don't do it.

01:01:35.820 I'm sure I've done it at times too, but we want to increase the quality of the show.

01:01:40.660 So yeah.

01:01:41.960 Learn from Carlos.

01:01:43.620 Who's up next?

01:01:45.300 Next up.

01:01:45.980 We have choppy there.

01:01:51.040 Choppy there.

01:01:52.840 Yes.

01:01:53.140 Can you hear me?

01:01:53.640 How's it going chop?

01:01:56.580 What a name is that your real name or a screen name?

01:01:59.840 Uh, yeah, it's the full name is chopper.

01:02:03.140 Oh, cool.

01:02:04.080 Where are you calling out of?

01:02:05.220 Are you sound Midwestern?

01:02:07.300 I'm actually from North Carolina, but I actually live in Minnesota right now.

01:02:11.380 Okay.

01:02:11.780 Yeah.

01:02:12.000 I hear a little accent from the South, but I'll try to cliff note it real quick about the

01:02:18.840 whole, cause it's like a year long.

01:02:20.580 Um, I was in the military.

01:02:23.640 Uh, I was about to deploy in 2013, January.

01:02:28.420 Um, she, we were both having real bad problems.

01:02:33.380 My kid was like, uh, half a year.

01:02:36.840 Um, she told me like before I deployed that she was going to cheat on me, that, that, um, 0.98

01:02:46.480 she didn't want to be a part of my life no more. 0.98

01:02:51.600 And that she was going to make sure that I'd never got to see my kid again.

01:02:55.580 And so I said, all right, we're going to go to court.

01:02:59.460 They removed me from the house.

01:03:00.560 She called my command, got me kicked out of the house. 1.00

01:03:03.740 Um, uh, I deployed, we were at Washington at the time and she moved back to North Carolina.

01:03:09.700 Um, my sister has actually played a huge part of it where she, my sister played as kind of

01:03:17.960 like a double agent with her.

01:03:19.220 Um, my ex would kind of like, um, drop off my son with my sister and it started out with

01:03:28.880 just a couple of days.

01:03:30.220 Then it turned into weeks and then months towards the end.

01:03:33.820 And then she just kind of disappeared.

01:03:37.040 And my sister called the police, got an abandonment on her. 0.96

01:03:41.220 And, um, I went to the court, took it to the court and the court actually made me sit in the

01:03:47.520 courtroom for two weeks.

01:03:48.980 I had to come in every day at 9am when the court opened until it closed every day just to see if

01:03:55.860 she would show up.

01:03:56.540 And she didn't, but they made me wait two weeks and my command did not like that.

01:04:02.560 But I got back, like it was 2014 when I got back and that's, yeah.

01:04:07.220 Was it, was it one child or two?

01:04:09.580 It was only one.

01:04:10.580 One.

01:04:10.960 And what was the age of the kid at the time?

01:04:13.300 At the time, at the start, it was like half a year.

01:04:16.700 I got custody at one and a half.

01:04:18.840 Wow.

01:04:19.240 That's great.

01:04:20.080 So you got full custody?

01:04:22.120 Yeah.

01:04:22.400 She just completely disappeared.

01:04:24.160 Like I got court orders of getting granted full custody and she got a restraining order. 1.00

01:04:31.340 And so I was like, I don't know who's going to deliver it.

01:04:33.860 So I did it because I had to go back to North Carolina to pick up my son because my sister

01:04:37.640 had him at the time.

01:04:39.340 And so I gave it to her and never heard from her since.

01:04:42.460 And I've had custody since 2014 till now.

01:04:46.300 Just never heard from her.

01:04:47.920 And she hasn't come back at all?

01:04:49.400 No, never heard anything.

01:04:50.900 What would you do if she tried to come back?

01:04:53.160 Like, there's nothing like I, I would, there's nothing she can do.

01:05:00.380 I.

01:05:00.920 Because the kid, your, is it a daughter or son?

01:05:04.080 Son.

01:05:04.560 So your son's like what, 12, 14?

01:05:07.080 Yeah.

01:05:07.520 12 going on 13 in July.

01:05:10.100 Okay.

01:05:10.580 Dang. 0.82

01:05:11.160 And she's been gone the whole, I'm telling you, women are just heartless, man. 1.00

01:05:14.420 Wait. 0.79

01:05:14.780 Just ruthless.

01:05:15.720 Do you know what it was?

01:05:16.700 Like, was she on drugs or like, so the thing was, is that every time, like I would like

01:05:24.680 my unit, we went to the field a lot.

01:05:26.600 I would say I spent more time in the field than I ever did at home, whether it was deployment

01:05:32.080 or it was just training.

01:05:34.260 Like we would literally go out for a month, come back for a week, go out for another month.

01:05:39.100 And each time when I went on these like field problems, she would just text me either.

01:05:43.860 Like she's taking these pills while she's pregnant, taking these pills or just alcohol.

01:05:48.640 Like she would send me a bunch of pictures of that kind of stuff.

01:05:52.360 And it's, and there's nothing I can do.

01:05:54.520 I can't just go home.

01:05:55.460 Like I'm sitting in, like, like I said, I was stationed in Washington.

01:05:58.540 I would be all the way in Louisiana or I would be in California and there's just nothing I

01:06:03.220 could do.

01:06:03.780 And how has being a single father been?

01:06:06.460 Has it affected your career a lot or what did you end up doing?

01:06:10.720 So what's crazy is that because going through her, she took a lot.

01:06:15.020 Like we literally, like I decided to get out of the military so that way I could raise my

01:06:19.400 kid.

01:06:20.720 And we started out pretty much living in the car.

01:06:24.020 Then a friend took us in.

01:06:26.380 It was just me and him.

01:06:28.000 Then I went back to North Carolina.

01:06:30.260 I did school.

01:06:31.880 I got my computer science degree.

01:06:34.940 And like now I'm a production manager and I'm closing on the house here soon.

01:06:39.980 Just been me and him the whole entire time.

01:06:41.560 And so what do you, when you hear women say that being a mother is the most difficult job

01:06:46.660 in the world, do you agree?

01:06:48.300 Do you disagree?

01:06:48.780 No, I don't, I don't agree at all.

01:06:51.380 It's not hard if you know how to discipline a child.

01:06:53.860 If you just, if you just let them go off and do whatever they want to do.

01:06:57.280 Yeah.

01:06:57.840 No, because I like, to me, I believe that part of parenting is fear, but not fear where

01:07:04.060 like they're scared of everything you do, but it's, it's respect.

01:07:07.400 Right.

01:07:08.200 And like, I get, I feel like at a certain age, children are not going to respect the

01:07:13.760 parent that's just always lenient and doesn't seem to really care.

01:07:17.760 Cause it's like, I see a lot of women, like I have, like I've dated one single mother and

01:07:22.980 that was never again kind of thing.

01:07:25.000 Never gone with a single mother because I just seen how like the child became and it's

01:07:29.320 just like, nah, I'm good.

01:07:30.700 And could you imagine if it were a woman, a child from a single mother who is raised by 0.97

01:07:39.920 a single mother and in the same household as your child, who, who was raised by you and

01:07:44.180 who, who's well disciplined, it would be chaos.

01:07:47.680 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Cool.

01:07:52.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.440 Um, that was a great call.

01:07:54.100 Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?

01:07:56.840 No, but just keep it up, man.

01:07:58.400 And I'm telling you, I just don't be surprised if she doesn't try to swoop in right around

01:08:03.820 high school graduation and be like, I'm ready to have a relationship and blah, blah, blah.

01:08:08.680 I think that your son will be.

01:08:10.840 What would you do if she did that?

01:08:12.640 Would you like allow your son to see her?

01:08:15.940 Well, that's the thing though, is I have told my son who she is.

01:08:20.180 Like not, I've never been the type of person where it's just like, I'm going to tell you

01:08:23.140 all the bad things.

01:08:23.960 I said all the good things about her, who she was and all that.

01:08:27.620 And it's like, I even told him that if, if he ever wanted to meet her, I'll do every

01:08:32.360 guy I can to like, set that up.

01:08:34.860 See, that's what I was telling you earlier, Doug MPA men just like, they'll never, um,

01:08:42.060 women can do so much wrong and they'll still try to like facilitate a relationship. 1.00

01:08:47.200 Sorry.

01:08:47.780 Keep going.

01:08:48.240 Well, they say only 10% of men put their baby's mother on child support.

01:08:57.220 It's like less than 10% of men that could actually do.

01:09:00.700 If I, if I can chime in on that.

01:09:02.760 So part of going through the divorce was they did the child support thing.

01:09:07.420 She was supposed to pay $70 a month. 0.82

01:09:09.200 That was her child support.

01:09:10.400 I never got any of it, but when we were going through the hard times, I needed to get healthcare

01:09:15.200 for my kid part of going to get the Medicaid or Medicare, whatever it is, you have to

01:09:21.420 like put supposedly, yeah.

01:09:25.220 And like put them on child support.

01:09:27.780 So they did the child support thing, agreed to the $70 because I was in the court order

01:09:33.920 and they never found her.

01:09:35.980 And what's funny is that the, the child support enforcement officer, it was a female.

01:09:42.420 She told me like, this is common that they'd never find a woman. 0.90

01:09:46.820 Like she told me like, there's many, many cases where they just never find the female,

01:09:52.720 especially if they're young and they're decent looking, they can just hide.

01:09:57.000 They just find a man and the man will take care of them.

01:09:59.320 And they usually don't find them unless like, it's like 10 to 15 years later when their looks

01:10:04.660 are gone.

01:10:05.540 And they can't, and they can't find a guy to take care of them anymore.

01:10:09.840 Yeah.

01:10:10.600 And that was, this is coming from a female support officer. 1.00

01:10:13.980 And I'm like, all right.

01:10:15.760 And so they just, after a year of them supposedly looking, they just closed the case and never

01:10:21.580 reopened.

01:10:22.960 Wow.

01:10:23.540 There you go.

01:10:24.020 Do you, is it more lenient from like, um, I'm assuming when it's a woman, they don't 1.00

01:10:29.220 try it.

01:10:29.760 Like, like, do they do the same thing if it's a man in another state or something?

01:10:35.320 You have any idea or no.

01:10:37.720 Um, I, I, I just know that North Carolina, especially being like a military town too.

01:10:46.200 It's, they're very, very strong when it comes to child support.

01:10:49.160 Like you give them any idea, they'll do everything they can to get it.

01:10:52.500 Cause like, they're taking some of that money.

01:10:55.360 They keep some of it.

01:10:56.240 They don't send it all to the child, but them just giving up and just whatever, I guess it's

01:11:01.580 like with women, either they're lenient or she was able to hide very well. 0.99

01:11:05.740 Okay.

01:11:07.100 Doug MP, you got any other questions for him?

01:11:09.380 I wouldn't say thank you for your service, man.

01:11:12.740 And honestly, the best thing you did was get custody of your son, man.

01:11:18.060 Seriously, cause we need more sons raised by their fathers. 0.96

01:11:22.420 He's going to turn out great.

01:11:23.640 And the best part about it is, you know, he, he, he knows what's going on.

01:11:27.580 You already know, like the kids know.

01:11:29.640 So just keep doing what you do, man.

01:11:31.380 Thank you for your service and calling anytime, buddy.

01:11:34.120 Okay.

01:11:35.040 Thank you.

01:11:35.440 Thank you all for what y'all are doing too.

01:11:37.320 It's been a long time coming.

01:11:39.060 Thank you.

01:11:40.100 Oh, Dustin says the reason for women getting, um, the reason for women getting away with it 1.00

01:11:45.860 is because it's so terrible.

01:11:47.180 Why did women get away with abortion? 1.00

01:11:48.740 Because we listen and we don't judge.

01:11:50.960 LOL.

01:11:52.680 It's funny.

01:11:53.380 That's from Dustin on the website.

01:11:54.680 You guys get unlimited super chats on the website.

01:11:57.700 Um, shibby fath, amazing content.

01:11:59.780 I am a disabled wife.

01:12:01.120 I always do my best to give my all to my husband.

01:12:04.680 He and many men are incredible and do so much.

01:12:07.060 Thank you.

01:12:08.460 Well, I appreciate the super.

01:12:10.080 Thank you.

01:12:11.300 These really do help guys.

01:12:12.800 So I appreciate it, um, who, who's next?

01:12:19.680 It just says zoom user.

01:12:21.480 All right.

01:12:22.380 Zoom user seven, two, five, four.

01:12:24.600 Welcome to the show.

01:12:26.620 I'm such a boomer with this stuff. 0.99

01:12:28.700 I don't even know how to rename the damn thing. 0.99

01:12:30.780 That's all right. 0.99

01:12:31.560 Uh, I hear an accent.

01:12:33.740 Where are you calling out of?

01:12:35.520 Uh, Australia, Queensland, Gold Coast.

01:12:38.180 Oh, cool.

01:12:39.420 Um, what do we call you?

01:12:40.980 Uh, Craig.

01:12:44.360 Good to meet you, Craig.

01:12:45.840 Yeah.

01:12:46.260 Nice to meet you.

01:12:46.960 Thanks for having me.

01:12:48.860 So what's your story with a woman abandoning her child?

01:12:52.980 Do you know someone or did it happen to you?

01:12:55.600 Yeah.

01:12:55.900 Oh, no, I know someone.

01:12:57.040 I dated someone.

01:12:58.160 And this girl was like beautiful, talented, smart, had like a promising like career. 0.60

01:13:05.880 Um, but she was kind of like two timing me and this other guy, right?

01:13:12.840 Okay.

01:13:13.900 All the stories start like this.

01:13:16.020 Oh, man.

01:13:17.860 It was in two different countries.

01:13:19.680 So she was literally flying between, uh, Australia and New Zealand because I was doing something in New Zealand.

01:13:26.720 And then the other fellow was doing something in Australia and I didn't know for a while, but like, uh, I finally found out when like I called her and she was in the car with her, um, other, uh, cast mates, let's call it.

01:13:42.380 Okay.

01:13:42.780 And I go like, all right, babe, I love you.

01:13:45.240 And for the first time she didn't say, I love you in reply.

01:13:49.000 I was like, Hey, that's weird.

01:13:50.040 She's like, okay, I got to go.

01:13:51.780 And I'm like hearing these people in the background.

01:13:53.640 It's like, Ooh, okay.

01:13:55.140 And I put two and two together and I figured out, you know, what was happening.

01:13:58.220 But here's what happened is we break up, they, um, get engaged and then she gets pregnant. 0.99

01:14:08.860 They never got married.

01:14:10.940 And, um, she had a lot of trauma, you know, like childhood trauma.

01:14:17.780 Uh, she lost her dad when she was young and, uh, she, I just could tell like she did not want to grow up, you know, I think she thought this family lifestyle might be good, you know, but once the kid came along, I think, uh, her trauma turned into addictions and drug addictions and alcohol addictions.

01:14:36.140 And she threw away her career.

01:14:38.420 What was, what career was she in?

01:14:41.940 Uh, she was an actress. 0.95

01:14:43.620 Oh, I kind of figured that.

01:14:45.380 I thought it was going to be something, but keep going.

01:14:47.780 Oh, yeah.

01:14:50.120 So, um, it got to the point where he goes, had to, you know, I don't know whether she wasn't paying her child support or, or whatever or something, but, um, uh, they, they'd separated for, I don't know how long.

01:15:03.820 And then he, he ended up coming into the hospital where she was, maybe she had overdosed or something.

01:15:09.380 I don't know, but he got her to sign the papers in her hospital bed.

01:15:13.380 This is what she claims anyway.

01:15:14.660 And, um, I think now he has full custody and I, I hate to say it, but I think it's for the best.

01:15:23.040 You know, like, why would you hate to say that?

01:15:25.580 Um, you don't have to give qualifiers around here, man.

01:15:30.100 You remember where you're at?

01:15:32.180 Yeah.

01:15:32.660 I, I still, I still feel for her because, uh, she's an amazing person.

01:15:38.460 You kind of liked her, huh?

01:15:40.180 I can hear it in your voice.

01:15:42.440 Yeah. 0.60

01:15:43.380 Was the sex really good? 0.77

01:15:45.420 Yeah.

01:15:45.780 Out of all the girls I've dated, um, that was like one that I thought she could have been the one, you know, but. 0.99

01:15:52.920 Glad she wasn't now, right?

01:15:55.120 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:15:57.120 you thought that a two-timing skeezer was gonna be the one okay get this though this will this 1.00

01:16:06.340 will make you even think i'm even more of a sim yeah so like 10 years go by and um i'm living in

01:16:14.300 la and then i'm like uh i decided to move back to australia and um we started talking i don't know

01:16:22.660 how but we just started talking and she was like oh well i want you to come home i miss you i i just

01:16:28.580 need you to come like basically come save me talk no did you do it well i had been i'd been back in

01:16:36.860 australia less than three days she was down in sydney that's another state and she's like come

01:16:44.500 here right now i need you right now just get on a freaking plane and you went didn't you hang on 0.63

01:16:50.200 hang on totally went i went with the intention just to help this person oh my god that was not 1.00

01:16:57.060 your intention how how was the sex was it good how was the sex was it good 1.00

01:17:04.120 did she give me that i need my phone bills and rent paid sex did she give you that kind of sex 1.00

01:17:15.120 uh she was like yes i can't i don't want to get into that i'm a gentleman all right 0.95

01:17:21.800 but um i i was going to at least like see if i could just help this person

01:17:29.680 start with i was gonna start with that and i was clear i was like look we ain't jumping into anything

01:17:33.820 i'm still pretty messed up or like hurt by what you did are you on twitter can you send me a picture

01:17:39.800 what she looks like i just want to see i need to like i won't share it with the chat but i just

01:17:45.600 i want to see how like she had to be so beautiful she was she was gorgeous um she was like a star here 0.91

01:17:54.660 in the country um picture like uh a 22 year old scarlett johansson um because she was south african too

01:18:02.400 yeah um you were done just just just gorgeous you know like beautiful okay like a nine nine and a

01:18:11.140 half you know okay with talent like really so 10 years later if when you knew her younger as a nine 0.70

01:18:21.100 nine and a half 10 years later in a kid what was her rating uh now it was a seven and a half

01:18:32.180 um i don't know why but a lot of these women she had really good boobs didn't she i just know it 1.00

01:18:40.060 she used to have great perky little like uh nice tits and then she did what all the girls do here 1.00

01:18:47.140 was she got she got a tip job she didn't even need it you know because that's what's good about kind 0.99

01:18:51.960 of tits that aren't too big to begin with as they all they don't get a little super saggy you can get 1.00

01:18:57.360 you know 35 year old with some nice little perky tits but i don't know and she had the lips done 1.00

01:19:03.480 they all they all get the lips done yeah so anyway so you went to go help her out you banged a little 0.98

01:19:13.240 bit but what ended up happening yeah so i was actually like all right we ain't doing that because

01:19:18.340 we ain't crossing that line because i don't know how i feel about you just yet

01:19:21.560 but um and then something else happened i was like i i went back up i stayed there for like a

01:19:27.500 night and then i came home and her daughter and uh baby daddy were here like literally like

01:19:34.420 down the road okay and i was like hey i saw your daughter and she's like um oh yeah she's she's with

01:19:43.260 uh her uh grandmother or something right i'm like oh man you should um you should come and just hang

01:19:49.780 out you know so i invited her to come stay here and then she managed to get like four or five days

01:19:56.240 uh with her daughter and i was thinking okay i'm gonna meet this girl i'm just gonna see that dude

01:20:05.000 in her and i'm just gonna be like oh this is too much i can't do this but get this man when i met

01:20:10.360 this girl like this little i don't know she would have been seven seven years old or something 0.92

01:20:15.100 she was such an innocent sweet sweet little person that i just melted instantly i kind of

01:20:21.960 forgot all about it i was like damn it like and maybe because you know i've been like clucky lately

01:20:28.280 or whatever the male term for cluckiness is um i kind of liked having this little family scenario 0.83

01:20:35.080 just in my house just watching them do like mother daughter stuff you know and me and the daughter

01:20:40.020 got along so well and i was like oh man what is going on here but um what actually ended it was

01:20:46.140 like i said to her i was like i don't want to have sex with you until i know that maybe we're gonna 0.92

01:20:54.640 try again and i don't know if i want to do that so once she heard that there was no sex on offer

01:21:00.580 yeah so that's that yeah someone in the chat said were you the simp it sounds like it do you think

01:21:11.740 you simped in this situation uh no if i was to simp i would have just taken her on board 1.00

01:21:19.320 okay i would have taken her back i would have um enjoyed all the great sex but um i gave her no d 1.00

01:21:26.960 she got no dick oh so you didn't even hook up second time around you just hung out with the 1.00

01:21:31.720 daughter yeah i think i let her blow me in the steam room uh okay but um yeah no i was like and 0.99

01:21:41.540 i didn't want to be like rooting when her daughter was always in the next room and stuff like she was 1.00

01:21:46.260 like i'll come sneak into the room in the middle of the night i'm like no don't do that come on

01:21:50.300 look over here i don't care how you dodge the bullet i don't i don't care how you dodge a bullet

01:21:57.400 as long as you dodge it bro and here's the thing she came back up back around 10 years later she saw

01:22:03.020 you you're doing better she's doing worse that's the ultimate revenge just do better man yeah but

01:22:11.280 anyway so moral of the story is i think uh in this scenario um the kid is better off with uh just

01:22:18.160 the dad yeah it seems like it clue studio says i love the movie trailer good to see you at two

01:22:25.080 million subs and monetize i'm proud of you thank you clue studio zachary g says were thank you

01:22:31.380 doug mp you got any other questions for him you dodged a bullet do you have any kids or no

01:22:38.660 no i would love kids but uh i haven't met the one yet well if you don't you don't have any kids so

01:22:46.080 stay away from single moms man you you're better than that stay away from mom all right buddy all 1.00

01:22:53.000 right just correct call it anytime buddy always good talking to you great thanks for having me guys

01:22:58.080 what a great call that was great that was hilarious see guys these are awesome calls

01:23:06.880 these are all we're totally fine with it going longer but you it we we have to be asking the

01:23:14.380 questions not a monologue you know so these are awesome they guys are awesome because when you give

01:23:21.420 suggestions to matt like when kevin samuels had callers that were women they would just do whatever

01:23:27.000 they wanted but like the guys if you tell them please do this when you call in look at that that was an

01:23:33.920 amazing great three callers we had uh dude's a total chad so that girl he's talking about was

01:23:42.580 probably as gorgeous as he said she was especially you know if he was an actor and and she's an actor i

01:23:49.860 guarantee you she was probably just drop dead gorgeous and i'm sorry guys there's a certain level

01:23:54.600 of hot that if you're under a certain age you just get drunk off the hotness dude that's why

01:24:00.700 some of the most beautiful the most beautiful women are the worst in bed you want to know why 1.00

01:24:08.380 oh my gosh i've heard that from okay keep going keep going i've heard that you've heard from i've 0.92

01:24:14.960 heard that from three different guys that like the the word like that the best sex they've ever 0.97

01:24:22.260 um like the hottest girl they've ever been with was like some of the worst sex they ever had 0.94

01:24:26.640 i could tell you why it's because the um a lot of mids or nerdy women they 1.00

01:24:34.780 they know that they're not going to just get by on their looks so they have to like research their 0.93

01:24:42.060 sex game and and they have to satisfy their man with their sex game because they don't have it in 1.00

01:24:47.400 the looks department some of those beautiful women the guys that sleep with them are so enamored 1.00

01:24:52.820 with their looks that they don't have the conversation with them saying you suck in bed 0.91

01:24:57.240 that's why they're so terrible yeah yeah um next up we have drew yes drew how's it going 0.99

01:25:14.320 how's it going how are you i'm good where are you calling out of i hear i'm gonna guess south

01:25:21.180 yep middle tennessee nice okay um but uh so i gotta got some good stories for you all right let's hear

01:25:30.180 them but uh my first child at 19 with a kind of high school sweetheart uh became an iron at 20 moved

01:25:37.700 to middle tennessee here um i started working at 21 full time as a nurse we had her second child at

01:25:45.140 uh a couple years later when i was 23 but uh things won't after after that kind of just uh

01:25:53.220 went crazy for her she started doing drugs and basically having sex with a guy i was playing golf 1.00

01:25:59.640 with so let's just say that changed things real quick what drugs was she on 1.00

01:26:04.920 well probably just anything and everything like crap like two years later i ended up getting full

01:26:12.240 custody of him because of everything though so but uh was it a son or a daughter i have two daughters

01:26:19.840 two daughters and we're how old was the youngest when you got custody uh two my oldest was six okay

01:26:26.340 and when did she go off the deep end like around what age she was probably 21 to 22 and i don't know

01:26:32.740 if it's really uh sorry i meant of the kids like how old were the kids when she started to go off the

01:26:37.660 deep end she was a one and one and four okay so i was just curious if she did drugs during the 1.00

01:26:44.380 pregnancies at all or if they were like no nothing like that i always kind of thought it was a uh the

01:26:50.780 the postnatal or you know the baby blues afterwards so but uh just never came back from that

01:26:58.160 i was curious if was there any character traits that you identified like in hindsight that maybe

01:27:06.060 you could have saw this coming or would you just say there was no way well i hate to say it i just

01:27:10.760 we kind of grew up in appalachia so it was kind of the uh i can't take the trailer trash out of the uh

01:27:15.720 the trailer girl that makes sense she just so wanted to go back i think to that that kind of lifestyle 1.00

01:27:21.620 which i kind of took us away from to you know have a better life basically okay but uh when i

01:27:29.620 went to court and stuff uh basically started all this my youngest my oldest one she was five at the

01:27:34.220 time called and said the guys they were with threw her against the wall so that's what kind of got

01:27:39.700 everything started for me to go to court and get a lawyer and um basically you know start fighting

01:27:46.400 you know get some stuff on paper and get them full time but uh with that being said when i did go to

01:27:51.560 court with everything that she was doing just drugs and craziness getting arrested and moving the kids 1.00

01:27:57.200 around from house to house and school to school it didn't take much to actually get full custody of

01:28:01.560 them wow so how many times did you have to go to court to get custody well it was the same like you

01:28:10.560 know it was only one time basically you know but yeah i go for like the free trial and

01:28:15.320 do a trial here and there but her parents were on my side her mom actually moved in with me after 1.00

01:28:20.900 all this to help me raise them um because where i was just working uh 12 hour shifts and needing

01:28:27.000 somebody to kind of be home so her mom did step up and you know kind of fulfill the motherly role but 0.98

01:28:32.540 sadly that was the third generation that she had to raise and did the daughter like fight like did she 1.00

01:28:39.580 or did she kind of throw her hands up and say she didn't want them anyway well they uh she didn't get any

01:28:44.860 type of lawyer and you know she came to the court and basically saying you know i'm a good mom and

01:28:49.240 you know you know all this is lies but there's just so many people saying you know that they've

01:28:54.060 seen it and the police reports out there you know there's no way that could happen but after i got

01:28:58.520 full custody even 15 years later now she's never tried to come back and you know probably seen my

01:29:03.980 oldest one uh maybe 30 days in the last 15 years then my youngest one she's probably seen her 0.89

01:29:08.960 for like 90 days of the last 15. and what what do you say to mothers um that say being a mother is

01:29:16.800 the hardest job on the planet do you agree well i think half the battle just with any parenting is

01:29:22.500 just showing up if you can show up and you know put a smile on the kid's face and you know just don't

01:29:28.540 do don't don't try to do harm and try to try to make things better you know it's not that it's not

01:29:32.800 rocket science but showing up is half the battle okay um what i'm trying to figure out a way to ask

01:29:43.460 this question do you think that you've had an easier time than someone that had to like go back

01:29:50.300 in court uh for years like someone like whose wife maybe had money and like could fight or like 0.99

01:29:56.740 like like people that have done 50 50 just anecdotally what you've seen go ahead if you

01:30:04.120 got two parents are doing good you know i mean there's no reason not to have two parents uh you

01:30:08.820 know as long as everybody's on the same page and that type of deal but if uh you don't have one being

01:30:12.980 a hindrance or destroying lives or you know that type of thing just it's kind of like anything else

01:30:17.960 you don't want them in your life yeah you know i hate to say uh you know uh there's just these kids

01:30:25.000 had a better life than they would have with her being involved at all yeah doug mpa you got any

01:30:31.400 other questions for him i don't cool well thanks for calling in i'm calling anytime okay that was great

01:30:39.400 all right sounds good and uh oh sorry

01:30:44.760 hold on is he about to bring it back in okay hold on hold on one second that's about too quick

01:30:50.680 hey dude what were you saying i accidentally dropped you out oh no i'm just saying uh i'll

01:30:55.560 just tell her i appreciate uh what she does for women and everybody else in the community that we're

01:31:00.200 in so cool well thanks for watching i really appreciate it thanks for calling in

01:31:07.320 all right 0.98

01:31:11.880 you're like a demon with the 0.99

01:31:13.160 jay are you there hey jay how are you 0.99

01:31:21.320 j j y j y j there j going once j going twice j going three times i'm gonna put you in the waiting

01:31:32.360 room and i'll bring you back in after the next i want to see how good i can get at guessing where

01:31:37.080 people are from cool well you've been doing a good job so far yeah okay brando uh hi i'm here can

01:31:47.560 you hear me i can hear you hey brando how are you hi wow what a trip i'm good that's crazy to talk

01:31:56.440 to you i'm gonna mute myself here i got you on another device cool we're okay wait let me guess

01:32:02.040 i'm gonna guess you're either west coast or midwest i'm gonna say west coast that's funny

01:32:07.880 uh actually south carolina i spent five years in maryland but uh mostly south carolina i grew up myrtle

01:32:13.560 beach most of my life i do not hear the southern accent it's not too strong with you it's a weird one

01:32:20.680 um but i'm a i'm a single father i've been a father my daughter she's seven um man i'll tell you

01:32:28.120 i went through a whole ride i didn't know what narcissism was and gaslighting and stuff was

01:32:32.760 beforehand um so i'll start from the beginning my so i'm 32 um my mom's a nurse my dad was a police

01:32:42.040 officer they never did drugs or drank or anything and so my i had a really good childhood growing up

01:32:48.520 um and it was very straight laced uh i have a brittle bone disease i've broken about 140 bones

01:32:56.600 uh in my life i got spinal fusion from neck to waist um and uh so when i found out i i met my

01:33:07.720 child's mother on the internet through a site it was called earth we are one you know i was going

01:33:12.360 through a hippie phase hey you know you get the spirituality thing and you go down those holes and

01:33:19.480 and you meet these chicks and they promise you the world and you're like oh all right i'll start a

01:33:24.200 family with this white picket fence dream you know and and uh i went down that road wasn't long before

01:33:30.760 i found out you know there was some some odd behavior and and how she was and then you start

01:33:36.120 finding out how she grew up her parents weren't like mine you know they were abusive and they did 0.82

01:33:40.840 drugs and drank and she did you know she used to cut herself and she used to do pills and she 1.00

01:33:46.840 had was very promiscuous with the neighbor boy down the street and man so the total opposite of

01:33:53.800 and of of what i was used to and uh so i was like yeah we live 500 miles apart she's she lives up north

01:34:00.520 in an eye and i'm in south carolina and i meet her i'm on the internet and i say hey all right well come

01:34:05.240 on down here i'll save you save your complex you know and i'm like i'll take care of you just come to

01:34:10.120 me i got a job i got cars she didn't have a driver's license she didn't have any money she was 1.00

01:34:14.440 scrounging uh cans out of her cabinets um sorry it's a wild story uh okay so um so what happened

01:34:28.600 when did she like when how long till you guys had the kid and like when did she leave 1.00

01:34:34.200 so i moved her down with me we lived in an rv and uh we we were together for about a year and then

01:34:41.240 we were kind of realizing things weren't weren't gelling and so i i took her back i was going to

01:34:46.920 take her back to ohio and on the final day as like a final goodbye we had sex one last time and that's

01:34:52.600 when uh she got pregnant and uh i found out i keep telling you that closure stuff man bro i told you

01:35:01.320 about this yeah and i and a few weeks later i found out and um you know this is where you make the

01:35:08.120 decision as a man you know this is what makes you know the boys into men whether you you turn and run

01:35:12.920 or you you face your choices and um i've i doubled down so i i've we were gonna break up and i said look

01:35:19.640 we're gonna have a kid uh i'm i'm i'll double down here i moved to ohio i moved my whole life up there

01:35:26.040 um rented an apartment for us got us all ready you know we had the child up there um and then i bought

01:35:33.160 us a house to in south carolina about a year later and um then we moved down to south carolina lived

01:35:39.640 there for a few years and then i got a job and remind you i got all the the broken bones and the

01:35:45.080 rods my back stuff and so i get the job because she refused to work um she wanted to do the stay 1.00

01:35:51.080 home mom thing i got that and after you know the second year in like all right well somebody's got to

01:35:57.400 pick up the bills i i i gotta go back to work i can't afford you know our lifestyle and disability

01:36:03.800 dot us anyway so the stress builds you know and then but the the then the narcissist she starts 1.00

01:36:09.960 calling me a narcissist and i don't know what this is and she starts you know accusing me of these

01:36:15.400 things and then i i didn't you know it all blows up you know a year a year later it all blows up um

01:36:21.800 she tries to flee the state with the child um and go to live with her parents her parents are

01:36:26.920 going to divorce and you know they're all still doing drugs i'm trying to save the child at this

01:36:31.080 point so i do emergency custody is it like the six months old dish uh should be two she was just 1.00

01:36:37.400 turning two at this point and so i petitioned for emergency custody with the court you know and based

01:36:43.400 on all the evidence it was very clear that the father had the stable situation for the child the

01:36:48.840 mother was basically camping in a tent at that point because she had she was talking about staying

01:36:54.120 in a shelter and this was right when covid was kicking off and she's talking about staying in

01:36:58.520 a shelter child so it was it was easy choice for the judge you know with the father and and it stayed

01:37:03.080 like this well so now you know fast forward it's been five years she's seen the child maybe she's

01:37:09.080 come to see her three times in five years and she hasn't paid a dime in child support i've i didn't

01:37:14.840 i didn't twist the knife in court to ask for it i just cared about the child's safety you know and um so

01:37:20.520 i didn't ask for child support and i had and i've asked for it now but i haven't forced it it's just

01:37:26.040 it's like do the right thing you know and so they all come into the title your your thing here women

01:37:32.200 who abandon their children you know she says she would disagree but you know i would if if i was in

01:37:38.520 her shoes i would move down the street you couldn't keep me for my child there's no way i would move and

01:37:45.400 she refuses to move down here or you know and and now she's got a job and she's you know not 1.00

01:37:52.280 contributing anything and she she calls when she wants to and then and the other thing all right so

01:37:58.120 when she calls she never asks never asks how the child's doing it's always to tell us about her and

01:38:04.760 what she's doing in her life and anyway i i i'll stop so i have a question so you you said that when you

01:38:12.200 found out that there was going to be a baby it was the time where you find out who the boys are

01:38:19.000 and who the men are so you stepped up to the plate knowing what you know now do you think that that was

01:38:23.720 the right decision yes yes and um uh you know i wouldn't run i wouldn't i take responsibility that's

01:38:32.360 how i was raised you know i got her pregnant i nobody else did it i did it um and i'm gonna be the

01:38:38.760 father no matter what and so i doubled down for this child i dedicated to this child no matter what

01:38:45.080 happens what do you think when women say that being a mother is the most difficult job in the 1.00

01:38:50.200 world do you think that's true and that's why i told you the background about the broken bones

01:38:55.800 and the spinal fusion if i can do this anybody can do it anybody can do it and i'm still the funniest

01:39:03.960 day we should do a clip with just all of their answers today cool all right anyway um um so do you

01:39:15.240 um said the kid's six now she's seven and she's got the bone disease too she's broken her leg three 0.98

01:39:22.520 times um and uh she's been in the wheelchair her first first week of first grade she broke her leg at

01:39:29.800 recess and uh you know her mother never came down for any of that you know never even asked how how

01:39:36.280 she healed in the end and um you know but i'm involved with the school and all that and you know i

01:39:45.560 it's it's it's wild she's such a beautiful girl i don't know how you couldn't want to be around

01:39:51.720 around her and yeah well didn't it come you dig into the psychology thing and i'm man of all the

01:39:56.440 youtube diving of all the videos and talk about narcissistic abuse and the reactionary abuse was

01:40:01.720 an interesting one because she tried to pin me as the abuser because i'd yell you know i'd go on

01:40:06.360 these yelling tangents but it's because of the you know i'd ask her please i come home and the

01:40:13.400 kitchens are wrecked dishes she's outside child sitting in front of the tv if she wanted to be back 0.99

01:40:18.840 in the kid's life would you allow it no i beg for it i i beg for it but in one capacity problem because

01:40:28.600 with the psychological issues yeah she's not safe so right now the the custody agreement was i've got

01:40:35.800 full custody but she can have visited supervised visitation every other weekend um and and she hasn't

01:40:44.680 taken any of those up but it's the supervised part and it's because she's the and i boy i wish we could

01:40:50.520 sit her in front of us you know a psychologist or something you know i don't know how that works but

01:40:55.720 because there needs to be an evaluation with and there's all i see it with a lot of these females and 1.00

01:41:00.280 i think it's this whole culture of today and what you guys talk about and why i draw i'm drawn to your

01:41:05.000 channel and um well cool well thank you so much for calling in thank you so much for listening

01:41:14.200 doug mpa you got any other questions for him i don't you know just keep being there for your

01:41:19.560 daughter man yeah and and i encourage all you fathers just you know stand strong for your kids

01:41:24.680 no matter what we gotta we gotta turn this culture around you know and and raise these kids right and

01:41:29.800 and fix fix this world man yeah good good sanity back on track thank you so much bye

01:41:39.800 doug and pierre are you gonna fix this world no man i i'm gonna stick to what i always say guys

01:41:46.680 your veins cold if a woman has a child against you your will all they're gonna get is a check 0.83

01:41:51.800 that's it like this whole men haven't do the right thing that we used to try to do the right thing but

01:41:58.200 women call that patriarchy so if women are gonna look out for themselves you need to look out for 0.99

01:42:05.080 yourself i'm telling you there's no such thing as doing the right thing anymore we tried that it

01:42:11.160 as men and women hated us for it all right we're gonna bring up sweet auntie t

01:42:17.800 sweet aunt auntie t yeah yeah hello can you hear me i can hear you fine like say one more thing i want 0.73

01:42:28.520 to guess the accent should i throw it on real thick i'm not hearing are you midwest oh gosh darn you know

01:42:37.800 i mean teeter tot hot dish in a tri-county area wait wisconsin no way north dakota let's go

01:42:52.040 um so what's your experience with um women that abandon their kids do you know any or or or you can 0.94

01:42:59.400 ask pearl a general question too yeah so mine's a little flip floppy but um so i was raised by a

01:43:06.680 single mom who uh just lived her life like she was had no kids so i kind of raised myself and then i

01:43:15.320 abandoned her a couple years back but she didn't care she was i'm sure it was a good riddance for her

01:43:24.520 how old were you when you abandoned her um let's see i just got married so i was 20

01:43:30.840 27 28 how many years ago was that six years ago i'm almost 40 so okay so um

01:43:42.840 your mother she lived like she didn't have kids so you would just be home for long periods at a time 0.91

01:43:48.280 or what yeah yeah she had different kinds of men in her life and would go on vacations with them and

01:43:54.760 do as she pleased and uh yeah i just my sister had a different dad so lots of baby daddies going on as 0.96

01:44:00.520 well how many different siblings did you have are we counting half blood half step x step whatever

01:44:08.600 i have a whole complicated i have three half siblings wow how many fathers

01:44:17.080 three slash we're gonna put an asterisk on that it could be four

01:44:20.600 more wow he was out in the streets man good oh yeah she was nasty she was she was something else 0.84

01:44:29.960 but yeah so she i mean she lived her life however and and so i ended up abandoning her but she was okay

01:44:35.160 with it so it's kind of on topic i suppose was there something that was the straw that broke the camel's

01:44:40.280 back where you're just like i gotta leave this behind yeah actually my wedding so my husband and i

01:44:46.200 were trying to make our guest lists and talk about weddings and the cost of that was so outrageous that

01:44:52.360 we were both just like let's just like elope so we ran off and um she got upset that i had taken a

01:45:01.400 special moment away from her for being able to be a part of it and um then told the rest of the family

01:45:07.560 what a terrible person i was for doing so and i was like wow you haven't visited me in 10 years

01:45:14.040 i don't understand so i was like i can't you seem like you turned out okay though like you sound like

01:45:22.440 you have a good head on your shoulders um would you agree with that or did you have a lot of like

01:45:27.720 issues coming from that so i had a lot and there were different phases of grief i would say one was

01:45:34.520 the initial phase was

01:45:35.960 uh why did they do this to me and like hating on my parents and her specifically and then because

01:45:45.640 both sucked and then my second phase was hating myself for perpetuating the issues that i had like

01:45:53.560 it's they're no longer here being a part of your life like you need to get over it yourself like you're

01:45:57.560 the one making your life miserable this way and then the third and final stage which i think is the

01:46:02.120 best stage is the stage of gratefulness that they both suck so bad that i was able to overcome any

01:46:08.760 obstacle put before me it's almost good that she wasn't around too much because then she probably 0.90

01:46:13.720 would have influenced you more yes actually i'm so grateful for that um doug mpa you got any other

01:46:21.480 questions for so um my mother was was verbally and emotionally abusive and um i was actually

01:46:32.680 was there any good traits okay what one of the only thing one of the only good things i got from

01:46:41.240 my mother who was emotionally and verbally abusive is that um there are situations that make other

01:46:46.600 people uncomfortable that aren't aren't uncomfortable for me because of how i grew up and a lot of people

01:46:53.960 notice that that about me and then um i'm able to take a lot more than a lot of people was there

01:47:01.960 anything that you could was there anything positive at all in hindsight that you could

01:47:09.400 take from either that you took from either one of your parents actually so many things i could give you

01:47:15.160 a list but i won't because i'm not a normal woman um i'll be succinct i uh definitely agree with you that

01:47:22.280 my endurance level for things is super high so that's grateful and then but another one for me is

01:47:28.840 because no one was around and like in my house at all i was alone a lot i actually had to learn

01:47:33.720 everything by myself and like i taught myself everything i've ever known how to do and that

01:47:39.800 characteristic as an adult is so beneficial that i can just teach myself how to do whatever i want

01:47:45.240 to do that's a great skill to have that's awesome and i bet you were like really ahead of your peers

01:47:52.920 too because you had um like you had to like you probably learned so much having to like raise

01:47:58.600 yourself basically did you feel like that or no yeah for sure i was definitely super advanced although

01:48:05.240 it's funny because i'll like i live with my husband we've been together for a long time and

01:48:10.840 once you live with someone that long you start realizing that a lot of the things you do is kind of

01:48:15.560 backwards because nobody showed me how and he was taught things and normal people that are taught

01:48:22.040 things have a specific way because everyone kind of follows the same guidelines for things so when you're

01:48:28.440 just teach yourself things you you kind of do things a little bit different but it makes me

01:48:32.200 think outside the box so it's very beneficial um when you first met your husband did you have to

01:48:39.320 learn how to how to how to live with another person and rely on another person because you were alone

01:48:44.920 a lot of your life so relying on someone else is not something i'm capable like i just it just seems

01:48:51.000 unfathomable to me um so i've always been we fluctuate as breadwinners we both work very hard we don't

01:48:57.400 have any kids um and i um um but living with someone i've done before roommates but with him

01:49:08.840 specifically i guess learning to love someone and be like that they could hurt your feelings if they

01:49:16.760 left you that part of that equation was difficult to overcome and adjust to being able to be that

01:49:23.800 vulnerable okay do you ever hear um because now like women are always talking about their trauma 0.99

01:49:34.680 uh yeah those people i've noticed that people um that have very tough upbringings it's it can be

01:49:43.240 difficult for them to like listen to like the women that talk about their like trauma is that a thing for 1.00

01:49:49.640 you at all or no i'm a misogynist first and foremost i've been for a very long time

01:49:55.160 i was raised by a streets walker and then um her mini me was a smarter street walker she became a

01:50:07.320 trophy wife um but um yeah no i listen to these people and i just can't i can't with them i can't

01:50:16.120 with women i actually have no friends um because i out of respect for my husband i don't hang out with

01:50:21.320 guys and out of respect for myself i don't hang out with other women wow well you can call into my

01:50:28.920 show anytime so if you're bored yeah i'd love to you have a lot of topics that i could go into if you

01:50:35.080 ever especially get into working with women that would be my dream to be on there but you want to go

01:50:41.000 on for a long time with me okay okay i gotta ask you just what's your do you so they say that 50 of

01:50:48.280 women would rather work for a male boss than a female boss do you agree with that stat yes okay 1.00

01:50:54.920 and then what is your worst just 30 seconds what is the worst thing that you have to deal with working

01:51:02.440 with other women them looking at me as competition and needing to wipe me out 1.00

01:51:09.240 that's a good one for me it's like the two-facedness i can't

01:51:21.160 yeah i can if they're coming after me if they're not coming after me i don't care what they're like

01:51:25.720 this is just a job i don't do social media so i don't have friends on social media i don't friend

01:51:30.200 co-workers even if i did so yeah that's that part about it is as women bosses they treat men better 0.96

01:51:38.920 they treat women like women in the workplace literally can't stand each other and i have no 0.99

01:51:42.840 idea why and the myth is that women are all all in together but they're really not no not i've coined 0.97

01:51:49.400 a term so it's not the sisterhood it's the shit stir hood that's awesome and i'm not invited so i got 0.62

01:52:01.160 kicked out a long time ago i got my past revoked well thanks for calling in um calling it was a

01:52:08.440 pleasure lovely yeah call him any any time okay i will for sure thank you so much for having me

01:52:13.880 up it was lovely to talk with you i love your show you guys have a great day thanks you too what a

01:52:20.040 great call we've had great callers today guys this is like 10 out of 10. sometimes i feel like i'm

01:52:26.760 talking into the abyss and so it i i love when i get good callers and they're just like well adjusted

01:52:37.480 cool people you know so last person it's gonna be nick nick how's it going

01:52:50.680 nick going once nick going twice sorry nick we're gonna let you go you gotta be ready next time

01:53:00.520 and that is everyone cool well this is a great show doug mpa yeah i knew it would be because we

01:53:11.320 gotta do a lot more shows on mothers i'm telling you guys mothers inflict infinitely infinite more 1.00

01:53:17.720 infinitely more damage on the children than fathers do especially to young girls because

01:53:23.240 oh yes think about it who's the first person that you hear say that you're too tall too short too

01:53:32.360 skinny too fat yeah your nose is too big your hair is too nappy you know who's the first person you hear 0.99

01:53:40.200 call a woman a slut or a it's your mom mom it's always your mom 1.00

01:53:45.640 telling you and then it's only gotten worse with this female empowerment feminism culture where 1.00

01:53:56.120 they're removing uh women from having to take accountability and then mothers from having to 1.00

01:54:01.320 take accountability too

01:54:06.200 yeah we could do a whole we could do we could do a show on every single type of mother like the

01:54:11.800 the career mother the you know like the different archetypes yeah the dead we'll have to write up a

01:54:18.200 couple yeah because the sad part about it is the career mother for the average female salary

01:54:28.920 in the u.s

01:54:32.840 is still thirty four thousand five hundred and forty six dollars and then the average male salary is forty

01:54:40.440 eight thousand so all these women are foregoing raising their children for freaking thirty four 1.00

01:54:45.960 thousand dollars a year 0.66

01:54:49.720 come on now yeah well um thanks for the contribution doug mp you got any final thoughts um just what i said

01:55:02.200 this now um hopefully one day

01:55:04.680 do we have jay grant in here earlier i don't remember because i see him waiting there and i

01:55:15.240 don't remember if we had him in the show or not dude do you remember j grand i don't i i'm not great

01:55:20.360 with names i'm good with faces and voices guys but you you'll have to forgive me if i forget the names

01:55:26.680 go ahead you know what do you you would take this last one sure we can do one more okay

01:55:38.360 jay are you there hey can you hear me hey jay how's it going sorry about that i got a little busy there

01:55:47.880 okay um so what are your thoughts on the topic what's your experience with deadbeat moms

01:55:53.240 so i dated a a girl 17 well now 18 and a half years ago about told me she was on birth control

01:56:03.720 a week later i found out she was lying about that and some other things stopped uh talking to her

01:56:10.040 about 10 months later got a call back uh or started getting calls from her um finally answered

01:56:17.960 and uh told me that i i had a kid so after everybody telling me change your number she's 0.98

01:56:27.080 just trying to get you on on a child support i decided i'm just going to show up i don't need a

01:56:33.880 air out there that hates me and causing just destruction and so um so i showed up look just like

01:56:41.480 me and my whole world changed and um it went from fear to all right now i got i gotta take care of this

01:56:51.400 um a couple we started showing up bringing diapers and formula and stuff every other day or so

01:56:58.600 um wasn't usually seeing his mom there after a while and eventually i was leaving one day from

01:57:06.200 uh her mom's house where my son was and um she told me that i have to be honest with you i haven't seen

01:57:13.960 her in two weeks so i turned around and i told her i'm coming to get him got him all all the baby stuff

01:57:24.040 and called work said i need three months off i had some money saved because i was just single i was doing

01:57:30.600 pretty well at the time um it's a that's a long story i've started to write a book about um i'm

01:57:37.880 halfway through it but so i try to focus it on her and she was basically in and out of prison his whole

01:57:44.760 life if she wasn't in prison for something like assaulting a police officer or something else um she

01:57:51.720 was just not present and i gave her opportunity to to see him but um you know other than her mom

01:58:02.920 sneaking my kid uh to prison behind my back to visit her um he he only saw his mother a handful of time

01:58:13.000 so possession is 90 of the law or something like that in texas and i thought okay i have possession of

01:58:21.080 my son um my dad happens to be a family law attorney um who i hadn't spoke with in years his wife never

01:58:30.040 had children and i thought but i thought it would be the grandparents are important it would be the

01:58:36.360 right thing to do to introduce my son to his grandparents worst decision i ever made um they

01:58:44.520 kept asking me to let uh let them watch him you need a rest you look tired uh first night i let them

01:58:53.000 watch him i went to go pick him up and uh eight o'clock and they said oh just let us keep him overnight and

01:59:01.320 you can come get him in the morning called him on my way to get him in the morning

01:59:05.320 uh long story short i had to call the police to retrieve him uh stepmother my dad's wife had him

01:59:16.680 in the back office of the legal building where my my father has his office and so begun a long story of

01:59:26.920 seven different lawsuits i've been meaning to call you uh for a while um because i think the story is

01:59:33.240 valuable it almost it almost killed me but i won every time but not after false allegations protective

01:59:42.040 orders uh and these are from your your parents yes like i said my my father's wife never had kids

01:59:53.080 yeah needless to say i have some major trust issues but that she had tried to adopt in the past but

02:00:00.440 failed somehow so they i had a troubled past you know so how long did the whole process take before

02:00:07.640 you you but you have custody now my son's 17 and a half now i have full custody still um there were

02:00:15.480 periods of this yeah it's a very long story there were periods of oh they saw me carrying them up the

02:00:23.240 stairs by one arm so hence a uh yeah cpa see all all that kind of stuff i'm just wondering how long did

02:00:31.480 the whole legal process take like how old was the kid then and then how long were you in court in and

02:00:37.000 out of four short answer 15 years oh my god i'm telling you dozens of thousands of dollars on it

02:00:48.520 broke my bank several times just i thought i'm doing i'm going to do the right thing by my kid

02:00:54.680 turned out to be the it destroyed my life not my kid but the fight to

02:00:59.720 do the right thing for my kid but that's the first one for instance it took

02:01:07.160 uh at the time i was on felony probation for a marijuana charge in texas i was almost done with it

02:01:14.760 um and my father because he's an attorney uh got in contact with my probation officer told him a bunch of

02:01:23.560 stuff that uh wasn't true extended my probationary period another two years to um but basically it

02:01:32.360 took me six months to get full custody back and because your dad was a lawyer it was like even worse

02:01:40.840 free free for him thousands of dollars for me and and there were so many conflicts of interests that

02:01:47.720 it they don't care but i would bring up the word conflict of interest and they would

02:01:54.040 yeah it's the grandparent intervener acting as his own attorney hiring uh at litem attorney for

02:02:01.480 to represent my son though those attorneys have a relationship i could only afford a brand new attorney at the time

02:02:09.160 my father was i found out later was throwing her uh new business throwing her clients during 0.79

02:02:17.160 so that was only the first one that went all the way to trial that particular trial like most of our

02:02:23.240 trials went all day seven or eight hours and end with the judge giving me custody but i had to fight

02:02:30.920 and almost until i had a friend that graduated as an attorney i had to argue better than attorneys that

02:02:38.440 i could afford but the mother your topic sorry um like i said it's a whole book and things need

02:02:45.800 need to change with this because um it was me against the state against like the whole system

02:02:55.160 and i always eventually won but it almost it literally almost killed me several times how much

02:03:01.480 money his mother how much money did it cost would you say just ballpark i don't like to think about it

02:03:07.720 but um i mean there were times where i had to pay court supervised uh visitation to get my custody back

02:03:14.520 after a few months period they have me on child support paying me the months uh paying them the

02:03:20.520 months that i had they had my son based on false stuff um it i don't know fifty thousand dollars

02:03:28.600 probably yeah five thousand dollars here seven thousand dollars there three thousand dollars

02:03:34.920 here wow and the funny thing is child support they they start child support like that uh over a six

02:03:41.960 month period and there there was uh this last time uh took them eight months to stop it once i had

02:03:50.760 destiny my kid back but um your topic was the the mother um i don't wanna i could like i said it's a

02:03:59.640 whole book mother um two years so in texas when the child's 14 there can they can make their own

02:04:08.200 decision and of course he chose dad and which i admire because they were playing such games with his

02:04:15.640 head that um i mean with him with grandparents d's f's miss 75 days of school one year um just with

02:04:25.800 that few month period that they had them um mother as far as abandonment mother was found in a suitcase

02:04:33.720 outside of houston a year and a half ago um so holy the ultimate yeah i'll probably call back another

02:04:44.280 time um because i know this is a topic related to mother but um oh it's crazy yikes oh my goodness

02:04:55.160 yeah i hear some of your calls and i'm like ah that's nothing

02:04:58.200 that's how the guy i met the other day he said he'd like the mother abandoned the kid

02:05:06.920 and basically he got custody right away but now he's like a single dad and i'm like that sounds

02:05:12.360 awesome i'm like that's the stories i hear i'm like that's that sounds like a great deal actually 0.82

02:05:20.600 we're good they're they're a pain in the butt but you know even if they're a good kid like like mine 0.88

02:05:26.360 um they're just they're a pain in the butt but uh it's the ultimate goal in life you know like 0.95

02:05:35.960 it's all that matters you know fifty thousand dollars it doesn't matter 0.67

02:05:40.760 your kids are all that matter if they're out there you know yeah um but yeah it was every couple years um

02:05:48.520 the mother would get out of prison and they would deny these kind of things until i i had absolute proof

02:05:55.880 mother get out of prison uh all of a sudden my mother has money to file a lawsuit in texas there 1.00

02:06:02.840 has to be an open lawsuit or case for the grandparents to intervene so they would they

02:06:08.680 hire an attorney for her so that they could intervene so they basically say we'll we'll help you get

02:06:15.720 custody or help and i'm like you can see him i just need a clean drug test

02:06:20.680 and you know give me a clean drug test and you can see your kid never happen and so they would tell her

02:06:27.640 we want you to be able to see him in an effort to open up a grandparent intervener case against me

02:06:33.720 again and she'd be back in prison before um the court date come in and in orange jumpsuit suit and 0.99

02:06:42.840 shackles so basically yeah that happened for about 15 years wow often on every two years i was in

02:06:51.720 the last semester of nursing school they asked uh hey can we have christian and i'd always let them back

02:06:57.400 in because i wanted i thought if i let them back in you know they'll they'll they'll see that you

02:07:04.360 know my intentions are no they always finals week of uh bachelor's program they'd file they filed a

02:07:13.240 court date on um finals days they'd see when the finals were and file it

02:07:17.160 then and um all because something like this like can we take christian to oh shoot um uh scratch that uh

02:07:29.240 my son to uh the pool and i would say well we we've had planned to go to a barbecue not not today and a

02:07:38.680 week later there's a lawsuit to get uh grandparent visitation and it's it's always a vector to get full

02:07:46.120 custody you know wow but we won every time because you involved your parents too oh my god you had to

02:07:54.520 kick yourself because it was like do you think it would have prevented it had you just never involved

02:07:59.960 like introduced your dad absolutely my life our lives would have oh that's my goal was yeah oh yeah 0.98

02:08:09.080 yeah i was punished men men are are punished for doing the right thing specifically

02:08:15.960 in my case i just wanted to do the right thing by my kid and it just i wanted to get him uh wanted

02:08:25.320 to get off probation and get him to my mom in california so we could because i trust my mother

02:08:31.880 and she's on her fourth marriage but that's another story but um someone that i could trust and they um

02:08:39.080 i told i told her do not uh do not tell them that you're leaving with him and she want to do the

02:08:47.080 right thing and told him brought him so they could say goodbye well cops stopped my mom at the airport um 1.00

02:08:56.040 and and they commandeer my kid it's crazy how easy it was like i don't think they would have this easy

02:09:04.200 of time doing it to a mother or it's just especially a couple but because i was a guy it was just so

02:09:10.280 easy for them to just say something and they take most of the horror stories i've heard are from texas

02:09:16.040 actually i've heard terrible things about texas law the only thing good about texas is that child support cap

02:09:23.000 i didn't have to worry about that back then the most a woman can get from a man is twenty seven 1.00

02:09:30.280 hundred dollars no matter what the guy's income is yep well that's good but if your father happens

02:09:37.960 to be an attorney with a barren wife that's never had children uh careful that's that's why elon's

02:09:45.160 first like what seven eight kids no his first three were born in south africa but like every child after

02:09:51.640 that except for the one that he had with uh ashley st clair we're all born in texas yeah

02:09:59.800 interesting that's a crazy story but you'll have to call in again um i will on a different show

02:10:05.720 you sound like you got a lot to say yeah when i'm not in scrubs cool well thank you for calling

02:10:12.760 in to really appreciate it buddy yeah thank you pearl for what you do i appreciate you yeah thanks so

02:10:18.280 much for calling in good night thanks for uh trying back at my uh call again yeah cool all right okay

02:10:28.120 that's everybody well um my final thoughts are that i think um men are better people in general not all

02:10:38.040 and they make better dads and i hope that more women give up custody 1.00

02:10:41.640 so that they can do what they're best at so yeah um and then there's no show monday tuesday right

02:10:52.680 yeah no show monday tuesday but i'll be back wednesday guys

02:10:58.280 cool cool all right well um actually i'll probably schedule one of the sit downs that are scheduled for

02:11:05.800 next week next two days as a yeah i'll probably schedule it's complicated for tomorrow okay guys

02:11:13.000 well make sure you like the video on your way out subscribe to the channel thank you guys so much

02:11:17.080 for watching and i'll see you guys on wednesday bye

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JustPearlyThings - June 08, 2025

Women Who Abandon Their Children (Call-in Show) ｜ Pearl Daily

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