JustPearlyThings - July 01, 2023


You Won't BELIEVE What She Said About Being TRADITIONAL

Topics
traditional marriages submission in culture
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Hannah Pearl Davis
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In this episode, I sit down with my good friend, Pearl, to talk about how she became a Christian and how she went from being a "modern" woman to a "traditional" woman. We talk about what it took for her to become a believer in God and how her faith has changed her life.

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00:00:00.000 I still don't understand what you did to become more traditional.
00:00:03.600 Like, did you take cooking classes, what specifically did you do?
00:00:08.100 So I had examples and I didn't see successful marriages.
00:00:12.960 I didn't see successful relationships.
00:00:14.300 So then I started to surround myself around Christian communities when I became a person of faith.
00:00:19.500 And I got baptized in 2019.
00:00:22.700 That completely transitioned my life.
00:00:24.260 So as a result, I started to see successful, healthy marriages.
00:00:28.000 I didn't see that before.
00:00:30.100 That's why I didn't even have the desire to be married.
00:00:32.200 You didn't see it.
00:00:33.000 I thought you said your parents and your grandparents were married.
00:00:35.400 Yes, but that's the only example that I had.
00:00:38.100 That's a very limited example, but I didn't, I did.
00:00:43.100 Okay.
00:00:43.400 They're married, but do I want to have their love life?
00:00:45.900 No, they're still together.
00:00:49.000 Their values are amazing when, when hard times hit.
00:00:51.600 Yeah.
00:00:51.900 They stick together, but I wanted more.
00:00:54.300 So I didn't have those examples.
00:00:56.300 But when I, I, I started to surround myself in the right environments and I started to
00:01:00.500 see that I can have healthy relationships and healthy marriages and yeah, with the right
00:01:06.300 values.
00:01:06.800 So that has changed surrounding myself with the right people who I can see an example.
00:01:11.300 All I needed was just an example and role models.
00:01:14.200 And I didn't see it.
00:01:15.400 So, yeah.
00:01:16.400 So this, it still doesn't make sense to me.
00:01:18.700 And I hear this a lot.
00:01:19.700 Yeah.
00:01:20.700 Like when I hear girls talk about how they were modern and then they became traditional. 0.96
00:01:23.900 Yeah.
00:01:24.900 Like, I don't hear anything that you actually did.
00:01:26.400 Like I hear that I surrounded, I got baptized, which is great, you know, you know, pro faith
00:01:30.700 here.
00:01:31.700 And, and, and like that you surrounded yourself with people that were married, but it's like,
00:01:36.700 I can watch people that play basketball.
00:01:38.900 That doesn't mean I learned to play.
00:01:39.900 So I was just wondering like what specifically you did to become, because if, if women want 1.00
00:01:44.800 to know you were modern before, then you became traditional, like what specifically did you
00:01:49.000 do?
00:01:50.000 Well, there's, for something new to come in, the old has to go.
00:01:54.000 My old self had to die.
00:01:55.900 So that means my old belief.
00:01:57.500 So because you said you, you, you know, of faith, right?
00:02:01.600 Do you know something called the Holy Spirit?
00:02:04.300 So when the Holy Spirit convicts someone on something, when, you know, you have a conviction,
00:02:09.600 people call it intuition.
00:02:12.300 We call it the Holy Spirit.
00:02:14.500 So, but it's, it's stronger.
00:02:16.200 It speaks so clearly.
00:02:17.200 It's, it's like the thoughts feels wrong.
00:02:20.200 The person, like, I remember the day, Pearl, this was crazy.
00:02:24.100 I remember the day before I got baptized.
00:02:26.000 This was crazy.
00:02:27.000 I was with an atheist guy.
00:02:29.700 I was dating an atheist guy and I, I was like, yeah, I can change him, whatever. 1.00
00:02:35.900 And the day after I got baptized and I had this inner conviction.
00:02:39.400 I had to break up with this person.
00:02:40.700 Of course, for obvious reasons, but did someone from outside come and tell me this?
00:02:45.600 No, it was an inner conviction.
00:02:47.400 I knew that I had to let go of certain people, certain beliefs, because my faith is, is now
00:02:53.600 the priority.
00:02:54.300 I'm fully sold out.
00:02:55.500 No, and I think faith is great.
00:02:57.200 Right.
00:02:57.500 I think, I think that's genuinely great for you, but faith, like getting baptized, being
00:03:02.000 taken over with the Holy Spirit.
00:03:03.700 Like I've been baptized.
00:03:04.700 That didn't make me traditional.
00:03:06.000 Yeah.
00:03:07.000 Right.
00:03:08.000 Yeah.
00:03:09.000 So like, what did you physically do?
00:03:10.000 Can you just define traditional?
00:03:11.000 Maybe I don't understand.
00:03:12.000 I mean, I would say traditional is like our grandmothers and our great grandmothers.
00:03:16.400 That's, that's like what they traditionally did.
00:03:19.000 Is there a hybrid version of that?
00:03:21.500 Like, cause I don't see myself traditional, traditional, but I don't see myself modern.
00:03:25.700 So is there like a middle definition or hybrid that's, I don't, I don't really think so.
00:03:32.300 I think it's like a lot of, no offense to you, but modern women pretending to be traditional 1.00
00:03:38.300 and some of them don't really know they're not, but I think, I think once you like are
00:03:42.600 around like a truly traditional woman, you just know it when you see it. 0.99
00:03:46.000 I think there's differences because you can be around, like you're saying traditional,
00:03:49.800 you can, you can not be, and I think that per that individual person grows up to believe
00:03:55.800 and do what they believe in their faith and whatever they choose.
00:03:59.200 But, but you can like believe things and that's, that's great, but it's about what you, what
00:04:03.200 you do.
00:04:04.200 Right.
00:04:05.200 Exactly.
00:04:06.200 And I agree with that.
00:04:07.200 I see a traditional woman like would dress a certain way. 1.00
00:04:09.200 Like.
00:04:10.200 Yeah.
00:04:11.200 I agree with that.
00:04:12.200 Yeah.
00:04:13.200 Modest, you know, wouldn't show off and wouldn't go out party and drinking.
00:04:16.200 Yeah.
00:04:17.200 Would be at home.
00:04:18.200 But, but the traditional women are usually married. 1.00
00:04:20.400 They usually submit to their husbands.
00:04:22.400 They usually are the one that's cooking for everyone at the party.
00:04:24.600 I think the greatest thing would be, how do you see traditional women?
00:04:27.600 Because in different, even in the UK, the different parts, there's different parts of,
00:04:32.400 if you look at Liverpool, if we look at travellers, everyone has a traditional type of how they 0.93
00:04:38.200 bring, if you look at any culture, they all have a different traditional way and in their
00:04:44.600 life.
00:04:45.600 Traditions, but I would still say the archetype of a traditional woman is the same.
00:04:49.800 It's the same.
00:04:50.800 Yeah.
00:04:51.800 So.
00:04:52.800 No, because if you look at home, looking after the family, cooking.
00:04:53.800 If you look at, no, no, no, no, no.
00:04:55.800 If you look at travellers. 1.00
00:04:56.800 And in all, if you look at the difference.
00:04:57.800 Travellers, they're very crisp.
00:04:59.800 No, no, no.
00:05:00.800 They're very strict.
00:05:01.800 They're very prominent.
00:05:02.800 They're, they are.
00:05:03.800 Travellers? 0.94
00:05:04.800 That is nothing to, what does that have to do with anything?
00:05:06.800 They're saying when you look at, because they're part of traditions.
00:05:09.000 They're part of traditional women. 1.00
00:05:11.000 Of course they are.
00:05:12.000 Travellers.
00:05:13.000 Yes, they are. 0.98
00:05:14.000 They're gypsies. 1.00
00:05:15.000 Okay.
00:05:16.000 I don't know anything about gypsies.
00:05:17.000 We don't really have those in the US.
00:05:19.000 We actually have loads of them here.
00:05:21.000 We actually don't, actually, we don't call them that.
00:05:23.200 Never broken the USA yet.
00:05:24.200 No, no, no.
00:05:25.200 They're not allowed to get an education.
00:05:26.200 They literally have to like, get married at a very young age and have children and raise
00:05:29.200 them.
00:05:30.200 Oh, okay.
00:05:31.200 Yeah, okay.
00:05:32.200 No, we don't.
00:05:33.200 Yeah, I know.
00:05:34.200 But we don't call, let's not get this.
00:05:35.200 We don't call them that.
00:05:36.200 Let's be very.
00:05:37.200 Call them what?
00:05:38.200 Gypsies. 0.99
00:05:39.200 Because they're not gypsies. 1.00
00:05:40.200 They call themselves gypsies. 1.00
00:05:42.200 Travellers.
00:05:43.200 They do call themselves gypsies. 1.00
00:05:44.200 I'm just saying that they're also, they, they're very strategic in their belief.
00:05:47.200 They're very, in their faith and how they're brought up.
00:05:50.200 And what they believe in as the same as a Muslim woman, a Muslim culture is, a Catholic 0.59
00:05:56.900 culture is, a Hindu culture is, a Buddhism culture is.
00:06:00.200 There's different types of traditional women. 1.00
00:06:02.200 Yes.
00:06:03.200 Okay.
00:06:04.200 And they're all fall into the same.
00:06:05.200 So we can't, we can't sit here and say, okay, so what would yours be?
00:06:08.200 We're going to have to go back and forth all night if you're going to talk about there's
00:06:12.300 different types of people.
00:06:13.300 Like that's the general argument you keep making.
00:06:15.300 I just think you're stereotyping one person.
00:06:16.300 Yeah.
00:06:17.300 I stereotype a lot.
00:06:18.300 So we'll get over it.
00:06:19.300 Okay.
00:06:19.800 So, um, I, I don't need to get over that.
00:06:21.800 It's not me.
00:06:22.800 I mean, you do have to get over it if you want to stay.
00:06:24.800 So.
00:06:25.800 Okay.
00:06:26.800 I stereotype on the show.
00:06:27.800 Yes.
00:06:28.800 Okay.
00:06:29.800 Yeah.
00:06:30.800 Men, men do like thin women. 1.00
00:06:31.800 That's yeah.
00:06:32.800 Thank you.
00:06:33.800 Um, okay.
00:06:34.800 So, um, what did you say what you did to become traditional?
00:06:39.500 No.
00:06:40.500 Sorry.
00:06:41.500 The only thing that stuck to my head, you said something really interesting, which is submission.
00:06:44.500 And I think this is the big difference in the Western culture with other traditional cultures,
00:06:48.500 because traditional cultures are more receptive to this concept of submission.
00:06:53.500 And I think a lot of times in the Western culture, we are, um, they don't really know what that means.
00:06:58.500 And this is why there's the conflict.
00:07:00.500 That's, that's just what I wanted to say.
00:07:02.500 Okay.
00:07:03.500 Yeah.
00:07:04.500 But to add on that, what submission is, is, you know, we see like sometimes the love as
00:07:11.500 it's one sided, you know, I want to, I'm going to give him this so I can get this.
00:07:15.500 But actually true love is not, I'm going to give this to get this.
00:07:19.500 True love is sacrificial love.
00:07:21.500 And I love that we agree.
00:07:22.500 I thought we're going to not disagree.
00:07:24.500 No.
00:07:25.500 I think that the most like selfless people get the most in general.
00:07:28.500 Yeah.
00:07:29.500 Yeah.
00:07:30.500 And this is, I think this is the, and it's sacrificial love.
00:07:32.500 So submission, if a man is submitted to his cause, to his purpose, to his mission, to God,
00:07:37.500 you know, a woman can submit to him, can feel comfortable to submit to him. 0.69
00:07:40.500 But the problem that we're facing right now in culture is that women don't feel safe to submit to men 0.83
00:07:46.500 because men are not submitted to a cause or to a purpose.
00:07:49.500 And this is the reason why the women don't feel, you know, safe to be submissive. 1.00
00:07:55.500 Oh, because of the men.
00:07:57.500 Could you say that one more time?
00:07:59.500 Yeah.
00:08:00.500 But the men are not what?
00:08:01.500 Sorry.
00:08:02.500 Yes.
00:08:03.500 So when we talk about submission, you know, we women, our natural desire is to submit.
00:08:09.500 Our natural desire, no matter how much a woman wants to fight about it, we want to submit. 0.94
00:08:14.500 But the reason why women don't submit, because I know I was like this as well.
00:08:19.500 And I'm still like this.
00:08:20.500 Actually, a man needs to be submitted to. 0.99
00:08:22.500 And man doesn't need to be submitted to a woman, but a man needs to be submitted to a cause, to a purpose and to faith or to God. 0.64
00:08:29.500 And this is where a woman needs feel safe to be submitted. 0.91
00:08:34.500 Yeah.
00:08:35.500 But there are men that do that.
00:08:36.500 And I guess the question is like, why are you picking men?
00:08:38.500 I mean, not you, but if you're in that situation, why are you picking men that don't have that?
00:08:43.500 This is really good.
00:08:44.500 And you know what?
00:08:45.500 I put my hands up and I, as many of you know, I was just banned on TikTok and we are demonetized on a daily basis on this platform.
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